I see a Margaret Fallon married John McMaster in 1928 and they were living at Hilderthorpe according to the 1928 electoral roll. Allan -----Original Message----- From: jagb@mcmedia.com.au Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 8:53 PM To: NEW-ZEALAND-D@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Cemetery Records on Fiche MI Look Up Please Would be grateful please if someone who has the NZSG Cemetery Records on Fiche could look up the following as I can not locate records for this Cemetery on line - FALLON William, 1924, Record No 3227, MI, Aged 40, Location Oamaru Cemetery S01.15 (should be on Fiche number 488-495). I think the above record should relate to the DIA Index Deaths 1924/782 FALLON William aged 46 years. (Date narrows down to 17 February 1924 although I note the difference in age recorded from DIA Death Index and Cemetery record). I could not locate a probate or newspaper Death Notice entry for the above. This William possibly married Margaret GOUDLING in 1922. In 1925 Margaret FALLON of Hilderthorpe is recorded as a widow on electoral rolls. This is not the William FALLON (possibly WW1 60922) who married Annie Elizabeth CAMPBELL in 1921. There appears to have been two William FALLONs in the Waimate Oamaru region 1914-1924 era. With Thanks, Jenny The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3986/7749 - Release Date: 06/26/14

Here are details from Oamaru Genealogy group CD. Regards Allan Block 163 Plot 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50 Purchased William FALLON 20 July 1901 1: In Loving Memory of James loved husband of Mary Ann FALLON died April 3rd 1953 aged 92 years. RIP. 2: In Loving Memory of Bina beloved wife of Patrick LENNOX died 10th Nov 1916 aged 29 years. FALLON. RIP. 3: In Loving Memory Mary Ann beloved wife of James FALLON died 16th Aug 1943 aged 65 years. RIP. 4: In Loving Memory of May FALLON beloved daughter of John and Mary FALLON died 18th April 1925 aged 20 years. Also their beloved son John FALLON died 2nd Sept 1934 aged 39 years. Also Mary FALLON mother of above died 28th Oct 1941 aged 80 years. Also John FALLON husband of above died 16th Feb 1946 aged 87 years. RIP. 5: In Loving Memory of Maria FALLON beloved daughter of William and Mary FALLON died 24th July 1901 aged 24 years and their beloved son William FALLON died 19th February 1924 aged 40 years. RIP. 6: In loving memory of Mary FALLON beloved wife of William FALLON died 29th Sept 1907 aged 66 years. 7: In Loving Memory of William FALLON beloved husband of Mary 23rd April 1903 aged 79 years and their beloved son Patrick FALLON died 25th January 1937 aged 70 years. RIP. Head Stone 1. Black granite - Crombie. 2. White marble square column with crucifix at top and a statue of an angel in front- Mansfield - . 3. Black granite set in concrete - Williams -. 4. White marble arched - E Williams - . 5. 6. 7. Black granite set in concrete - Williams -. Sealed - Crombie – -----Original Message----- From: jagb@mcmedia.com.au Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 8:53 PM To: NEW-ZEALAND-D@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Cemetery Records on Fiche MI Look Up Please Would be grateful please if someone who has the NZSG Cemetery Records on Fiche could look up the following as I can not locate records for this Cemetery on line - FALLON William, 1924, Record No 3227, MI, Aged 40, Location Oamaru Cemetery S01.15 (should be on Fiche number 488-495). I think the above record should relate to the DIA Index Deaths 1924/782 FALLON William aged 46 years. (Date narrows down to 17 February 1924 although I note the difference in age recorded from DIA Death Index and Cemetery record). I could not locate a probate or newspaper Death Notice entry for the above. This William possibly married Margaret GOUDLING in 1922. In 1925 Margaret FALLON of Hilderthorpe is recorded as a widow on electoral rolls. This is not the William FALLON (possibly WW1 60922) who married Annie Elizabeth CAMPBELL in 1921. There appears to have been two William FALLONs in the Waimate Oamaru region 1914-1924 era. With Thanks, Jenny The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3986/7749 - Release Date: 06/26/14

Thank you Nivard for the full explanation that some others may have not been aware of. I am surprised that there has been no public announcement regarding Ancestry. It is a Worldwide Group and the whole system has been let down, particularly its paying customers for weeks now. A short tag on some Ancestry pages and on their "Help" folder, doesn't reach their millions of customers I would suggest. Certainly here in Australia there has been no media news of it at all, except TV advertisements suggesting we all join Ancestry.com.au. Let's hope we're all over the worst of it now......wait and see at present anyway. Cheers, Robyn -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Friday, 27 June 2014 7:41 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [nz] No mail re Ancestry and Rootsweb lists outage On the 16th June 2014 Ancestry servers were attacked by a huge DDOS strike <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack> This brought the Ancestry sites down including the lists Security was not compromised, no data lost or changed, no personal data taken The motive (I speculate) could be an attempt to get a ransom, Ancestry was not the only site attacked and at least one other has said a ransom was demanded It took Ancestry a couple of days to get the main site back online but other parts such as Rootsweb have been longer Its obvious Ancestry would want their paid for services working first Rootsweb came back online early on Tuesday the 24th June but the lists only started working properly about two hours ago Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/06/2014 09:54, annesteve.westley@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I have received no mail since about last Tuesday > > Can anyone explain? > > Cheers > > Steve Westley The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

re Ancestry and Rootsweb lists outage On the 16th June 2014 Ancestry servers were attacked by a huge DDOS strike <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack> This brought the Ancestry sites down including the lists Security was not compromised, no data lost or changed, no personal data taken The motive (I speculate) could be an attempt to get a ransom, Ancestry was not the only site attacked and at least one other has said a ransom was demanded It took Ancestry a couple of days to get the main site back online but other parts such as Rootsweb have been longer Its obvious Ancestry would want their paid for services working first Rootsweb came back online early on Tuesday the 24th June but the lists only started working properly about two hours ago Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/06/2014 09:54, annesteve.westley@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I have received no mail since about last Tuesday > > Can anyone explain? > > Cheers > > Steve Westley

Hi List Anyone in Greytown know anything about a Catholic Church which was originally in Rangiwhahia, then shifted to Taupo before moving to Greytown, where it was used as a wedding venue. Is this the same one as the Sacred Heart in the main street? This query is for Sue King who is having trouble getting into the NZ Rootsweb list. Any replies to the list please.

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sue king <sueray2002@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:00 PM Subject: Greytown To: new Zealand List <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Hi Is there anyone from Greytown? I'm looking for information & photo of a church which was orginally a Catholic Church from Rangiwahia which then spent time at Huka Village Taupo before going to Greytown where I think it's being used in a wedding business. Many thanks Sue

Hi Is there anyone from Greytown? I'm looking for information & photo of a church which was orginally a Catholic Church from Rangiwahia which then spent time at Huka Village Taupo before going to Greytown where I think it's being used in a wedding business. Many thanks Sue

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sue king <sueray2002@gmail.com> Date: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:00 PM Subject: Greytown To: new Zealand List <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Hi Is there anyone from Greytown? I'm looking for information & photo of a church which was orginally a Catholic Church from Rangiwahia which then spent time at Huka Village Taupo before going to Greytown where I think it's being used in a wedding business. Many thanks Sue

Dear Everyone, If this message gets through could SKS please reply, together with a request for an acknowledgement. Many thanks in anticipation. Regards, Michael

HI wondered if anyone else is having any problems with the list as I havn't received any posts from either this or the Tasmania list in several days and am now wondering if it has anything to do with the recent problems with Ancestry. Mabel

Have been hearing that service to Rootsweb has been restored, following the DDOS attack on Ancestry's sites last week, so posting this in the hopes that it gets through. No need to reply to this, just know that you can get on with posting to the list once again! :-) Wendy

Hi everyone Can someone on the list please contact me at annesteve.westley@gmail.com Cheers Steve westley Steve & Anne, Grafton, Jacaranda City annesteve.westley@gmail.com

Hi Is there anyone from Greytown? I'm looking for information & photo of a church which was orginally a Catholic Church from Rangiwahia which then spent time at Huka Village Taupo before going to Greytown where I think it's being used in a wedding business. Many thanks Sue

Have just heard that service to Rootsweb has been restored, following the DDOS attack on Ancestry's sites last week, so posting this in the hopes that it gets through. No need to reply to this, just know that you can get on with posting to the list once again! :-) Wendy

Hi Everyone I have received no mail since about last Tuesday Can anyone explain? Cheers Steve Westley --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Would be grateful please if someone who has the NZSG Cemetery Records on Fiche could look up the following as I can not locate records for this Cemetery on line - FALLON William, 1924, Record No 3227, MI, Aged 40, Location Oamaru Cemetery S01.15 (should be on Fiche number 488-495). I think the above record should relate to the DIA Index Deaths 1924/782 FALLON William aged 46 years. (Date narrows down to 17 February 1924 although I note the difference in age recorded from DIA Death Index and Cemetery record). I could not locate a probate or newspaper Death Notice entry for the above. This William possibly married Margaret GOUDLING in 1922. In 1925 Margaret FALLON of Hilderthorpe is recorded as a widow on electoral rolls. This is not the William FALLON (possibly WW1 60922) who married Annie Elizabeth CAMPBELL in 1921. There appears to have been two William FALLONs in the Waimate Oamaru region 1914-1924 era. With Thanks, Jenny

Looking for anyone researching... Robert KERR m Mary Ann SANDOVER nee AVERY, 1877. Did this marriage take place on Chatham Islands? Hilton Doidge Waikato

Looking for anyone researching... Charles KERR m Maria Amelia AVERY, 1877. Christchurch, NZ. Were any or all of their 5 known children born on Chatham Islands between 1878-1885 or New Zealand? Hilton Doidge Waikato

Hi All: There are early inquests from the 1840s & 1850s in Archives which are not indexed in Archway by surname. Some are in the IA series (Colonial Secretary?) and some in early justice series. There is a book "Touching on Death" by Laurie Gluckman on early Auckland inquests. I have seen a 1949 inquest file for Lucy Hollard, Died Karori (old ref National Archives box J 46/1). Lucy (born 1844) died 11 December 1849 a 5y, she was burnt to death when her dress caught alight from a stump c100 yards from the house. Her father pulled his coat off to smother the flames, and Lucy lived for an hour. Inquest held 12 December at Karori. She was the daughter of Charles and Anne Hollard. Yours, John Wilson Subject: Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869 >I had a child's accidental death in 1856 and tried to get the Coroner's > report from National Archives, only to be told that often there simply > wasn't an inquest at that time. They do hold a few early ones, but in this > case the child died in Gisborne (or Turanganui as it was), and it was well > out of the way so no inquest was held. It might be worth contacting > National > Archives in person. They let me view a sort of ledger which had an index > of > names for whom inquests had been held in that era, and I don't know if it > has been put online. > > Jeanette > >> I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in >> 1863. >> Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the >> name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking >> is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in >> 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. >> I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that >> John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's >> report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death >> certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on it. >> >> Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? >> Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have >> birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. >> William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. >> The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in >> 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article >> states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child >> was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she >> married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" >> Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? >> Any ideas greatly appreciated. >>

Hi All: There are early inquests from the 1840s & 1850s in Archives which are not indexed in Archway by surname. Some are in the IA series (Colonial Secretary?) and some in early justice series. There is a book "Touching on Death" by Laurie Gluckman on early Auckland inquests. I have seen an inquest file for an inquest on Lucy Hollard, Karori (old ref National Archives box J 46/1). Lucy (born 1844) died 11 December 1849 a 5y, she was burnt to death when her dress caught alight from a stump c100 yards from the house. Her father pulled his coat off to smother the flames, and Lucy lived for an hour. Inquest held 12 December 1849 at Karori. She was the daughter of Charles and Anne Hollard. Yours, John Wilson Subject: Re: [nz] John Daley Death in 1869 >I had a child's accidental death in 1856 and tried to get the Coroner's > report from National Archives, only to be told that often there simply > wasn't an inquest at that time. They do hold a few early ones, but in this > case the child died in Gisborne (or Turanganui as it was), and it was well > out of the way so no inquest was held. It might be worth contacting > National > Archives in person. They let me view a sort of ledger which had an index > of > names for whom inquests had been held in that era, and I don't know if it > has been put online. > > Jeanette > >> I have in one of my families John DALEY who married Louisa HILL in >> 1863. >> Two children born between 1865 & 1867 & then in 1870 a child by the >> name William Nabbs Daley to Louisa & William. This child, I am picking >> is really from the 2nd marriage for Louisa as John Daley had died in >> 1869. The second marriage was to William NABBS in 1879. >> I then located a write up for Louisa's death & in it it stated that >> John died from drowning at sea, but I cannot on Archway find a coroner's >> report, nor any write up on papers past. I have not sent for the death >> certificate yet for John but may have to to find out anything else on >> it. >> Would it be common not to have a coroners report at the time? >> Children from the second marriage between Louisa & William NABBS have >> birth years 1872, 1875, 1881, 1883 & 1897. >> William NABBS died in 1887 aged 62. Louisa NABBS died in 1911. >> The dates from the article dont seem to add up as her marriages were in >> 1863 & 1879 (going from Births, Deaths & Marriages) yet the article >> states that "Mr Daley was lost at sea two years after the first child >> was born, leaving her with 2 small boys. In the following year she >> married Sergeant William Nabbs of the 60th Kings Royal Rifles" >> Maybe I am looking at this puzzle the wrong way & missing something? >> Any ideas greatly appreciated. >>