I believe there are many similar projects of this type underway around the country. Here in Motueka we have put together bios for all the men on our area's memorial as well as many who are not recorded there. Not every fallen soldier was mentioned on a memorial - also we have found that some are recorded on memorials elsewhere.. It is a great way to commemorate these men and to personalise them for others to read. Our bios will be part of a WW1 exhibition at our local museum, so folk will be able to browse them and, if interested, obtain a copy. Regards, Patsy (a different one!) > -----Original Message----- > From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patsy > Sent: Monday, 30 June 2014 3:02 p.m. > To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Subject: [nz] army file digitise please > > > HI listers. anyone going in to Wellington Archives soon. Can you ask > them to digitise this file please. We are doing bios for all the men > who died in WWI who are listed on our local war memorials and he is > one of ones on my list > > CORMODY, Alex Ford - WW1 6/3212 - Army (R21897567) > > many thanks > Patsy > > >

Patsy, that sounds like a great project. Can I suggest that you put a QR Code Plaque on each memorial, so that anybody with a smart phone can look up a web page with information about these soldiers. Have a look at the article in the FamNet December newsletter: - http://www.famnet.org.nz/newsletters/FamNet/December_2013/Newsletter.htm#_To c374373068 The walkway project is still working its way through approvals etc, but in the meantime the Barbarians Rugby Football Club have used the concept to put these plaques on several of their clubroom memorabilia. Contact me if you want to know more. Regards, Robert Barnes phone  +64-9-418 4415 mobile +64-27-459 2702 Skype: Robert.Barnes3 Address: 13A Havenwood Place, Birkenhead, Auckland 0626 www.jazzsoftware.co.nz www.famnet.net.nz www.robertb.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patsy Sent: Monday, 30 June 2014 3:02 p.m. To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] army file digitise please HI listers. anyone going in to Wellington Archives soon. Can you ask them to digitise this file please. We are doing bios for all the men who died in WWI who are listed on our local war memorials and he is one of ones on my list CORMODY, Alex Ford - WW1 6/3212 - Army (R21897567) many thanks Patsy The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On such a lovely day as we have today with the weather making us stay inside, I have put it to great use, till now when I am stuck on locating a burial place/cemetery for Amy Baker & a few of her family details. I have her parents (Helen Mary Ann & Francis YOUNG), birth (1878), marriage to Albert BAKER (1898), 2 children's birth (Albert Cyril (1899) & Frederick John (1900), marriages in the Waipu area for the boys Frederick to Hilda Rose Collingwood CREEKS) in 1925 & Albert to Annie Wright in 1919; cemeteries for Frederick (Onerahi in 1985), Hilda (Kamo in 1941). Found a reference that Albert Cyril died in 1972 at Hamilton, but he doesn't show up on the Hamilton data base. Downloaded all Amy's on Births deaths & marriages & got it to her dying about 1911 (bringing it back to her birth year) So I am stumped on how else I might locate a burial place for Amy (tried Far North Cemetery base, Whangarei cemetery base (definitely not the amy butler there), papers past) & no go. Tried a search with just their names, any other ideas? There is an Albert at Whareroa in 1944 (making him born around 1871) which may be him so I have sent an email asking if anyone else is buried in with him. Any other clues? The Young family were based at Taheke, Northland.

HI listers. anyone going in to Wellington Archives soon. Can you ask them to digitise this file please. We are doing bios for all the men who died in WWI who are listed on our local war memorials and he is one of ones on my list CORMODY, Alex Ford - WW1 6/3212 - Army (R21897567) many thanks Patsy

hi, Her Death date was 13th November 1911 hope this helps, Bruce Upper Hutt ----- Original Message ----- From: <truelearner@ihug.co.nz> To: "NZ Rootsweb" <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 2:06 PM Subject: [nz] Looking for Amy Baker & her family > On such a lovely day as we have today with the weather making us stay > inside, I have put it to great use, till now when I am stuck on locating > a burial place/cemetery for Amy Baker & a few of her family details. > I have her parents (Helen Mary Ann & Francis YOUNG), birth (1878), > marriage to Albert BAKER (1898), 2 children's birth (Albert Cyril (1899) > & Frederick John (1900), marriages in the Waipu area for the boys > Frederick to Hilda Rose Collingwood CREEKS) in 1925 & Albert to Annie > Wright in 1919; cemeteries for Frederick (Onerahi in 1985), Hilda (Kamo > in 1941). Found a reference that Albert Cyril died in 1972 at Hamilton, > but he doesn't show up on the Hamilton data base. Downloaded all Amy's > on Births deaths & marriages & got it to her dying about 1911 (bringing > it back to her birth year) > So I am stumped on how else I might locate a burial place for Amy > (tried Far North Cemetery base, Whangarei cemetery base (definitely not > the amy butler there), papers past) & no go. Tried a search with just > their names, any other ideas? > There is an Albert at Whareroa in 1944 (making him born around 1871) > which may be him so I have sent an email asking if anyone else is buried > in with him. > Any other clues? > The Young family were based at Taheke, Northland. > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Hugh "Hobson Park" was a large estate owned, in those times, by Eliza Anne HOBSON. Franklin Street is now part of Birdwood Cres Parnell and the estate bordered on the Domain on one side and Manakau Rd on the other. It seems Manakau Rd was previously known as Epsom Rd and is now Parnell Rd. In the current day, Manakau Rd ends at Broadway, Newmarket. If you google "Auckland Council Parnell ratebook database 1873 - 1900" you will find the residents on that estate in those days. If you look at a current day map and compare it with the old map on the url below, you will get a comparison of the area in different times. Cheers Bob http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll?BU=http://www.auck landcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/maps/mapskey.htm&QF0=NZ%20map%20number&QI0=4495-23 &MR=1&TN=maps&RF=FullHTML&RL=0&NP=2&AC=QBE_QUERY -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of hugh Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:13 AM To: New Zealand Subject: [nz] Hobson Park Hello everyone. Recently, due to finding some info, My Great Grandfather was listed in the electoral rolls for Parnell in 1880. The place was Hobson Park in Franklin St. Is it there now, or what happened to it. Hugh The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Press, 31 August 1928, Page 6 The death is announced of Mrs Margaret Shields, Geraldine, at the age of 94 years. Deceased came of a family noted for longevity, a sister, Mrs Sinclair, having died in the early part of the present month within six weeks of her 100th birthday. Mrs Shields came to Canterbury with her sister in the ship Huntress in 1863. She spent the greater part of her life in the Rangiora district and was much esteemed by all who knew her for her kindly nature. Her husband predeceased her a few years ago at the age of 91 years, the funeral took place on Tuesday at Rangiora after a service at John Knox Church, of which she was a member of many years' standing. Papers Past has been updated. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast The Press is out there to 1928 Thanks. Olwyn http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/huntress.htm

Hello everyone. Recently, due to finding some info, My Great Grandfather was listed in the electoral rolls for Parnell in 1880. The place was Hobson Park in Franklin St. Is it there now, or what happened to it. Hugh

Hello All I have just added the BMD from 12 November 1977 The Star 14 November 1977 The Press 7 September 1978 The Press Beverley Evans Christchurch NZ http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1970%27s.newspapers.BMD.html

*DIA got it right. Ancestry got it wrong.* *https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/ <https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/>* *and some places of birth are wrong in NZ birth records on Ancestry but the big advantage of Ancestry is that NZ births go up to 1950**http://preview.tinyurl.com/npyqddd <http://preview.tinyurl.com/npyqddd>* *http://search.ancestry.com/Places/New%20Zealand/Default.aspx?category=34&ldf=1 <http://search.ancestry.com/Places/New%20Zealand/Default.aspx?category=34&ldf=1>* *From:* hilton doidge < hilton.d@clear.net.nz> *Subject:* [nz] DIA site and Chatham Island BDM Records *Date:* Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:18:59 +1200 To Olwyn W and Penne and all others who contacted me off-list about Chatham Island Records being on DIA BDM site...

Please is there anyone in Invercargill who could find a death notice for us? It is for Annie Arabella Kirk, who died on 31st March 1961. She was living at Otapiri, and was buried in Invercargill Eastern Cemetery. Regards Mary Boekman, Dawn Roberts Inglewood, Taranaki

Hi After looking at his record it is apparent that he died after only a few weeks of attestation and posting and there the service number may not have been allocated and or recorded on the record. There are a few numbers recorded on various pages but nothing definitive ... 24214 ... not allocated to another soldier, according to Cenotaph database. 22674 ... allocated to Thomas O'Meara and looks like an error that was subsequently crossed out on the record suggesting that an identification anomaly existed at the time of admission the Featherston Camp Hospital where Michael died of pneumonia caused my measles. 11/1384 ... allocated to John Pocklington i do not believe the cause was non embarkation but is more likely is the short timeframe between marching in and death. Regards Phil (sent from iPad) > On 28/06/2014, at 9:42 am, Patsy <patsym@inet.net.nz> wrote: > > Hi Listers > can anyone tell why a recruit for the NZ army in WW1 would NOT be > issued with a regimental number? His name was Michael O'Meara > I have downloaded his army file but no number listed he was a gunner > in the NZ field artillary but died at Featherston camp before he could > get away overseas. He definitely attested got all that but why no > number?? > many thanks > Patsy > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for sharing this Paddy, yes it plays fine in NZ. Helen NZ -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of paddy Sent: Saturday, 28 June 2014 2:39 p.m. To: NZ Rootsweb Subject: [nz] WORLD WAR 1 Last night I heard a great interview on Australia's Radio National: Margaret Throsby was interviewing Professor Margaret MacMillan a world renowned historian and author. She is Professor of International History at St. Antony's College at the University of Oxford where she is also Warden of St. Antony's College. Her books include "Peacmakers - The Paris Peace Conference of 1919 and its Attempt to End War", "The Uses and Abuses of History" and "The War That Ended Peace - The Road to 1914". I don't know if it is possible to download the interview in NZ, but for people who are interested, it might be worth trying: http://www.abc.net.au/classic/content/2014/06/27/4034049.htm Given that so many New Zealanders fought in WW1 - quite a few of my relatives included, it is well worth listening to. Paddy Byers Hobart, Tasmania The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subject: [nz] BEVERLEY LYNCH HI JUDY HAVE PASSED YOUR MESSAGE ON TO BEVERLY LYNCH. JIM CLEARY, Taradale

Last night I heard a great interview on Australia’s Radio National: Margaret Throsby was interviewing Professor Margaret MacMillan a world renowned historian and author. She is Professor of International History at St. Antony's College at the University of Oxford where she is also Warden of St. Antony's College. Her books include "Peacmakers - The Paris Peace Conference of 1919 and its Attempt to End War", "The Uses and Abuses of History" and "The War That Ended Peace - The Road to 1914". I don’t know if it is possible to download the interview in NZ, but for people who are interested, it might be worth trying: http://www.abc.net.au/classic/content/2014/06/27/4034049.htm Given that so many New Zealanders fought in WW1 - quite a few of my relatives included, it is well worth listening to. Paddy Byers Hobart, Tasmania

Is there anyone on this list who lives in Taradale or who knows Beverley Lynch and could contact her for me please. Her email address is now bouncing and she cannot receive the New Plymouth Branch newsletter. She lives at 12 Brompton Drive, Taradale. Can she please email me if possible. Many thanks. Judy Berntsen New Plymouth

He is not the only soldier not to have a number, looking at the book. The Great War 1914-1918 NZEF. Roll of Honour.. there are about a dozen names with no Regimental Number, would it be as they died before a certain date perhaps... but then, one of the soldier that I have researched died 1916 at Featherston, he has a regimental number, but never got away to fight, died of illness.. Hoping someone can come up with the answer for us thanks. Adele -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

Hi Listers can anyone tell why a recruit for the NZ army in WW1 would NOT be issued with a regimental number? His name was Michael O'Meara I have downloaded his army file but no number listed he was a gunner in the NZ field artillary but died at Featherston camp before he could get away overseas. He definitely attested got all that but why no number?? many thanks Patsy

Hello Olwyn So interesting! I love the stuff you post and have learn't so much from you. I wish there was someone like you who knew about people's daily life over the years - even finding anything written seems extremely hard. I know lots about my grandmother's generation generally, but nothing about the day to day life. She grew up in Waipu and I have no idea what that life would have been like. That's where we need a time machine! Thanks for sharing all your interesting knowledge. Regards Jan Olwyn Whitehouse <olwynbw@gmail.com> wrote: The fighting involved as many as 65 million soldiers from 15 nations, leaving more than 8.5 million soldiers dead. A chain of events began with the June 28, 1914, assassination of Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife, Sophie, while visiting the city of Sarajevo in the Austro-Hungarian province of Bosnia-Herzegovina, that touched off a conflict centered in Europe that ended with little ground lost or won and a great loss of life and the Spanish flu. Austria-Hungary officially declared war on Serbia on July 28, 1914. They had the backing of Germany. Serbia had backing of Russia. Germany decided to attack France by going through neutral Belgium. Since Britain had a treaty with Belgium, the attack on Belgium officially brought Britain into the war. German troops moved into France, French and British troops tried to stop them. At the end of the First Battle of the Marne, fought just north of Paris in September 1914, a stalemate was reached. The Germans, who had lost the battle, had made a hasty retreat and then dug in. The French, who couldn't dislodge the Germans, then also dug in. In between was no man's land. Since neither side could force the other to move, each side's trenches became increasingly elaborate. For the next four years, the troops would fight from these trenches. New Zealand, with a population of 1.1 million in 1914, sent 100,000 men and women abroad. About 16,700 died and more than 40,000 were wounded. Almost 9,000 who have no known grave. The Kid from Timaru The boys aboard the transport were busy talking fight. We'd just begun our journey - said goodbye to Farewell light; Some were skiting awful, of things they meant to do. We hoped we might see London, Berlin and Paris too When the Kid he asked us all if we had been to Timaru. Egypt, when we got there, to its endless sand and sun Drilling - always drilling. A case of never done. Sand, more sand, fierce burning sand, our red hot curses drew, The Kid admitted Egypt had more sand than Timaru. Then came the news that we would get our chance to win our spurs, To play the game and show our breed was not the breed of curs. We were ordered out of Egypt to face the German crew - We yelled "New Zealand will be there; the Kid said "And Timaru". The world knows how we played that game on enemy's bleak shores, How ploughing through the gates of hell, the brunt of fire we bore. Blood-stained sands proclaimed the doom of comrades, good and true But bullets somehow seemed to miss the Kid from Timaru. He'd carried in his Captain, almost dying, through the rack Of smoke and fire and battle, but just as he got back A German sniper shot him, the bullet went right through. When he's well, we'll hear again from the Kid from Timaru. Back across to Egypt where they put us into dock We lay with many others, our eyes fixed on the clock Wondering when the time would come, when we were well enough, To do our bit for old New Zealand, the Kid "Some more for Timaru". The other night the Head came in with a message from the King. He thanked his gallant soldiers. We made the sickroom ring With cheers, real rousing hearty cheers, the Kid said "Strike me Blue- I hope to God he has not forgot to cable Timaru." NZ Truth 28 October 1916, Page 11 The Kid from Timaru. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=NZTR19161028.2.54&srpos=1 THE HAGERTY MEMORIAL Unveiled at Timaru Tributes to a Dead Soldier- Boxer. "Jimmy" Hagerty, as his friends called him in life, or Private James Hagerty, as he will be found in the official records, is going to live for ever. At any rate the memory of a clean-living, gentlemanly little fellow, a boxer, and a champion, too, a footballer, and a soldier, who gave his life for his country, is to be kept green for the generations to come. On Tuesday afternoon of last week, at the Timaru Hospital, a marble memorial tablet was unveiled, which bore the following inscription: His sister is Mrs. Stephen Tilly of Wellington. Erected by his many friends throughout the Dominion in memory of the late Trooper J. Hagerty, who was killed at the Dardanelles on August 27, 1915. Greater love hath no man than this: that a man lay down his life for King and Country. Timaru, 17th October, 1916. James Michael Hagerty Serial No. 7/64 First Known Rank Trooper NoK Mrs Eliza Hagerty (mother), 260 Worcester Street, Christchurch Marital Status Single Enlistment Address 5 Hugh Street, Timaru Body on Embarkation Main Body Embarkation Unit Canterbury Mounted Rifles Place of Death Gallipoli, Turkey Date of Death 27 August 1915 Killed in action Memorial Name Hill 60 (NZ) Memorial, Hill 60 Cemetery, Turkey Son of Mrs. Eliza Hagerty, of 14 Churchill St., Christchurch, formerly of Timaru. 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