I did not try it before so can't say if its changed, but from the databases notes on Ancestry About New Zealand Birth Index, 1840-1950 This collection includes a searchable index to birth records from New Zealand covering the years 1840–1950. The index lists the name of the child, the quarter and year in which he or she was born, and a folio number associated with the microfiche index created by the New Zealand Department of Internal Affairs. Once you locate an ancestor in this collection, you can use the details to search the database on the New Zealand BDM website and request a copy of the original record, which will include more detail. Note that only stillbirths are available from 1915-1950. The pertinent part being the last line Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/07/2014 22:09, Heather McLean wrote: > Hi Liz > Are you telling us that something has happened with Ancestry and the NZ > Births? > Heather > Tauranga

HI all ! I had a feeling that Ancestry would cut back on the births so I tried to print out everything from 1914 - 1950 for KENNEDYs but my printer ran out of ink at the end of 1930 and the local shop didn't stock ink for my old printer !!!! I don't suppose anyone has got the 1930s and 1940s by any chance? Or is it ever possible to buy a set of the fiche ??? Cheers, Liz Stanley

Thanks to Jan and Ailsa for the help re Phyllis Retallick/Darling cheers Patsy

Hi Listers Phyllis Darling born 1 Jan 1918 (noted as Darling on her marriage registration) parents maud christina retallick and joseph peter darling who married in 1919 Can someone look to see if Phyllis birth was registered as RETALLICK (her mother's maiden name) or DARLING? Also if registered as Retallick can they check the births 1919/1920 to see if she was legitimatised AFTER her parents marriage. thanks Patsy

Hi Patsy The birth is registered in 1917, RETALLICK Phyllis Joan, Folio No 4883, Sept Qtr, Christchurch Also under 1917, hand written in referring to the entry in 1920 is DARLING Phyllis Joan, Folio No 5171, Sept Qtr, Christchurch On the 1920 fiche, it is typed as DARLING Phyllis Joan, Folio No, 5171, Sept Qtr, Christchurch So she was born RETALLICK in 1917 and birth re registered in 1920 under DARLING hope that helps Ailsa Ailsa Corlett ailsa@st.net.au http://home.st.net.au/~ailsa alternative email if having trouble sending to my normal email is: ailsacorlett@gmail.com > >Hi Listers > >Phyllis Darling born 1 Jan 1918 (noted as Darling on her marriage >registration) > >parents maud christina retallick and joseph peter darling who married in >1919 > >Can someone look to see if Phyllis birth was registered as RETALLICK >(her mother's maiden name) or DARLING? >Also if registered as Retallick can they check the births 1919/1920 to >see if she was legitimatised AFTER her parents marriage. > > > >thanks >Patsy >

Rootsweb doesn't do attachments Jan, best to write the details. Cheers, Graham On 1/07/2014 9:36 p.m., Jan Moon wrote: > > > > I am trying to get death certificates for my great great grandparents, but cannot find them on the Historical BDM’s - anyone know why? This is their gravestone. > > Regards > > Jan > > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Graham Jones, 139 Hokianga Road, DARGAVILLE 0310 09-439-8519

Hi Jan, I have had the same experience and found it was BDM errors. I got all the detail I could, in my case from Council records and then emailed BDM and asked why I could not find the death in their records. In both cases they found an error and fixed it. Regards, Calvin On 7/1/2014 9:36 PM, Jan Moon wrote: > > > > I am trying to get death certificates for my great great grandparents, but cannot find them on the Historical BDM’s - anyone know why? This is their gravestone. > > Regards > > Jan > > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did sent this last week but with all the problems at Ancestry it did not go through Hi Everyone The Ashburton District Council recently updated it's Cemeteries page on its website. IIt now has an advance search page. Which includes searching for some of the following plus much more. * Surname * Burials Between burial dates * Burials with certain death dates * Search only one Cemetery * Certain Area/Block in a cemetery Also a camera pops up in the index, if the there is a headstone photo available. These photo's have been made available by the Ashburton District Family History Group. Currently headstone photo's are available for the Hinds, Waterton, Winslow Cemeteries Photo's are currently being added weekly for the Ashburton Cemetery. At the present time they are available for the Old Lawn and most of the New lawn sections up to plot 3200. Headstone photo's for the RSA sections are being added over the next few weeks, followed by the older parts for the Ashburton Cemetery as time permits. http://infoservices.adc.govt.nz/Cemeteries/ Regards Michael Sheate

Hi Marina Have had a look at the NZ Death Fiche and it gives the Registration District as Foxton. The Foxton cemetery is online and he is in there. Heather Tauranga -----Original Message----- From: marina Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 8:27 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] Look Up Please - NZ Burial Locator Hi Folks, Would someone mind doing a look up on the NZ Burial Locator to see if there is a record for a, GASCOIGNE LEOPOLD SHUTER, who died in New Zealand in 1989. Aged about 91 years. Place of death is unknown. Many thanks. Marina Christchurch The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to get death certificates for my great great grandparents, but cannot find them on the Historical BDM’s - anyone know why? This is their gravestone. Regards Jan Sent from Windows Mail

This would appear to be Agnes death on NZ BDM Online: 1928/5976 Sinclair Agnes Orr Thompson 99Y To complete the picture, Margaret's death: 1928/5923 Shields Margaret 95Y Some good middle names to follow up. Fiona On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Olwyn Whitehouse <olwynbw@gmail.com> wrote: > Press, 31 August 1928, Page 6 > The death is announced of Mrs Margaret Shields, Geraldine, at the age of 94 > years. Deceased came of a family noted for longevity, a sister, Mrs > Sinclair, having died in the early part of the present month within six > weeks of her 100th birthday. Mrs Shields came to Canterbury with her sister > in the ship Huntress in 1863. She spent the greater part of her life in the > Rangiora district and was much esteemed by all who knew her for her kindly > nature. Her husband predeceased her a few years ago at the age of 91 years, > the funeral took place on Tuesday at Rangiora after a service at John Knox > Church, of which she was a member of many years' standing. > > Papers Past has been updated. > http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast > The Press is out there to 1928 > > Thanks. > > Olwyn > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/huntress.htm > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is also an Agnes BLAKE marrying John SINCLAIR in 1866 (Ref 1866/7711 - NZ BDM Historical Indexes online). Matching this back to the Huntress passenger list that you found there is both Margaret and Agnes BLAKE on board, along with further family members. Cheers Fiona On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Olwyn Whitehouse <olwynbw@gmail.com> wrote: > Press, 31 August 1928, Page 6 > The death is announced of Mrs Margaret Shields, Geraldine, at the age of 94 > years. Deceased came of a family noted for longevity, a sister, Mrs > Sinclair, having died in the early part of the present month within six > weeks of her 100th birthday. Mrs Shields came to Canterbury with her sister > in the ship Huntress in 1863. She spent the greater part of her life in the > Rangiora district and was much esteemed by all who knew her for her kindly > nature. Her husband predeceased her a few years ago at the age of 91 years, > the funeral took place on Tuesday at Rangiora after a service at John Knox > Church, of which she was a member of many years' standing. > > Papers Past has been updated. > http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast > The Press is out there to 1928 > > Thanks. > > Olwyn > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/huntress.htm > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The NZ Electoral Rolls 1919 : Rangiora - James Shields Margaret Shields A James Shields married a Margaret Blake in NZ - 1871/5970 Ray On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Olwyn Whitehouse <olwynbw@gmail.com> wrote: > Press, 31 August 1928, Page 6 > The death is announced of Mrs Margaret Shields, Geraldine, at the age of 94 > years. Deceased came of a family noted for longevity, a sister, Mrs > Sinclair, having died in the early part of the present month within six > weeks of her 100th birthday. Mrs Shields came to Canterbury with her sister > in the ship Huntress in 1863. She spent the greater part of her life in the > Rangiora district and was much esteemed by all who knew her for her kindly > nature. Her husband predeceased her a few years ago at the age of 91 years, > the funeral took place on Tuesday at Rangiora after a service at John Knox > Church, of which she was a member of many years' standing. > > Papers Past has been updated. > http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast > The Press is out there to 1928 > > Thanks. > > Olwyn > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/huntress.htm > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry Olwyn... Don’t know what your reference to Ancestry is on this one...? From: Olwyn Whitehouse [mailto:olwynbw@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 12:35 a.m. To: new-zealand; hilton.d@clear.net.nz Subject: Chatham Island BDM Records -DIA got it right. DIA got it right. Ancestry got it wrong. https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/ and some places of birth are wrong in NZ birth records on Ancestry but the big advantage of Ancestry is that NZ births go up to 1950 http://preview.tinyurl.com/npyqddd http://search.ancestry.com/Places/New%20Zealand/Default.aspx?category=34 <http://search.ancestry.com/Places/New%20Zealand/Default.aspx?category=34&ldf=1> &ldf=1 From: hilton doidge < <mailto:hilton.d@clear.net.nz> hilton.d@clear.net.nz> Subject: [nz] DIA site and Chatham Island BDM Records Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:18:59 +1200 To Olwyn W and Penne and all others who contacted me off-list about Chatham Island Records being on DIA BDM site...

To Olwyn W and Penne and all others who contacted me off-list about Chatham Island Records being on DIA BDM site... After a week of emailing to DIA... They have concluded with this response... "...On the website we don't imply or suggest that the records are only on New Zealand soil, rather we say that they are "New Zealand Government records for births, deaths and marriages". We do not mention territory or soil or exclude records of events occurring outside New Zealand..." And... "...Legislation has changed over the years and as a result there are records registered in New Zealand for events that occurred both here and overseas..." I asked if they could include under, say, their existing heading... "About the Records"... That ALL events shown, on their site, did not actually occur on NZ soil! But this is not in their interest... So if you are searching through BDM's on DIA... Remember the event could have occurred on Chatham Islands or Antarctica or any other place that NZ governs...! There is no indication otherwise... They want you to buy their Carts. etc to get the correct answer... I wished they had have used the Folio numbers instead of creating useless Registration numbers... Yes I know the Registration Number assists in ordering Certificates etc., etc., however the Folio number had another use, to search for a place of Registration for B and D's using the NZSG District Key books... And yes the District Key books showed Folio Numbers for Chatham Islands... Hilton Doidge

Hi Folks, Would someone mind doing a look up on the NZ Burial Locator to see if there is a record for a, GASCOIGNE LEOPOLD SHUTER, who died in New Zealand in 1989. Aged about 91 years. Place of death is unknown. Many thanks. Marina Christchurch

Thanks for all the replies. Looks like two Blake brothers came out and their wives names were Agnes and Margaret and in single women their were two Blake sisters names Agnes and Margaret. Probably all related as they were from Edinburgh. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/huntress.htm#BLAKE A list member wrote <Ancestry have cut back the dates that are available, they are more in line with NZ BDM. Also a few I checked recently no longer showed the quarter, and place just says New Zealand. > What a shame. Thanks. Olwyn On 30 June 2014 15:20, Fiona B <honeymoon8@gmail.com> wrote: > There is also an Agnes BLAKE marrying John SINCLAIR in 1866 (Ref 1866/7711 > - NZ BDM Historical Indexes online). > > Matching this back to the Huntress passenger list that you found there is > both Margaret and Agnes BLAKE on board, along with further family members. > > Cheers > Fiona > > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Olwyn Whitehouse <olwynbw@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Press, 31 August 1928, Page 6 >> The death is announced of Mrs Margaret Shields, Geraldine, at the age of >> 94 >> years. Deceased came of a family noted for longevity, a sister, Mrs >> Sinclair, having died in the early part of the present month within six >> weeks of her 100th birthday. Mrs Shields came to Canterbury with her >> sister >> in the ship Huntress in 1863. She spent the greater part of her life in >> the >> Rangiora district and was much esteemed by all who knew her for her kindly >> nature. Her husband predeceased her a few years ago at the age of 91 >> years, >> the funeral took place on Tuesday at Rangiora after a service at John Knox >> Church, of which she was a member of many years' standing. >> >> Papers Past has been updated. >> http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast >> The Press is out there to 1928 >> >> Thanks. >> >> Olwyn >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/huntress.htm >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Hi listers found the file I was looking for was digitised just playing hidey seek darn it thanks everyone cheers

Hi Patsy. We are planning a similar exercise for those mentioned on tha Maramarua cenotaph. Where abouts are you and can you give us any hints . Murray Reid Mangatangi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patsy" <patsym@inet.net.nz> To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: [nz] army file digitise please > > HI listers. anyone going in to Wellington Archives soon. Can you ask > them to digitise this file please. We are doing bios for all the men > who died in WWI who are listed on our local war memorials and he is > one of ones on my list > > CORMODY, Alex Ford - WW1 6/3212 - Army (R21897567) > > many thanks > Patsy > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

More: the URL in my last post got butchered as it went through Rootsweb. Try http://tinyurl.com/n6g2vem The full URL was http://www.famnet.org.nz/newsletters/FamNet/December_2013/Newsletter.htm#_To c374373068 and will probably be truncated at "To". You need to edit it to combine the first and second lines if you want to go directly to the article. Regards Robert Barnes phone  +64-9-418 4415 mobile +64-27-459 2702 Skype: Robert.Barnes3 Address: 13A Havenwood Place, Birkenhead, Auckland 0626 www.jazzsoftware.co.nz www.famnet.net.nz www.robertb.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patsy Sent: Monday, 30 June 2014 3:02 p.m. To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz] army file digitise please HI listers. anyone going in to Wellington Archives soon. Can you ask them to digitise this file please. We are doing bios for all the men who died in WWI who are listed on our local war memorials and he is one of ones on my list CORMODY, Alex Ford - WW1 6/3212 - Army (R21897567) many thanks Patsy The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ZEALAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message