I can't answer for where the ship landed without more details. Have you searched Papers Past (NZ's equivalent of your Trove) https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz for your ancestors and the ship? The distance today between the two ports (Manukau/Onehunga (west) and Waitemata/Auckland (east)) by road is at a guess 10-12 kms. While both ports are close together - they almost meet - they are on separate coasts. Bryan  NZ On 04-Feb-17 11:37:30 AM, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: hi listers, My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into Manukau harbour.. Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? Chris Melbourne, Australia The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julie Ann, you say you have his probate etc. could you please clarify his marriage death etc. There were two or more Joseph Thomas Squire/s and to be able to help, more info needed. cheers penne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie-Ann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 9:56 PM Subject: [nz] SQUIRE > Hi all > > Interested in Joseph Thomas SQUIRE b 1846 Canada in NZ by 1875 > > Have his probate/employment etc and descendants but trying to locate his > entry into NZ and also how would someone get to NZ from Ontario > > Thanks > > Julie-Ann > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All: Arthur Edward Savage died on 31/12/1953 aged 72y according to the Registrar-General’s online historic records (gradually restrict search range), and the date is confirmed by the Auckland (Waikumete) Cemetery, Auckland database which says he was cremated, and occupation Music Teacher. He was born 8 September 1881. An obituary from the Waikato Times in the New Zealand Biographies on fiche in the Turnbull / National library (NZ Bio 1955 vol 1 p 135) says Mrs V A Savage had died in Hamilton: “Mrs V. A. SAVAGE” “The death has occurred in Hamilton of Mrs Violett Ada Savage, aged 73. Mrs Savage came to Hamilton 54 years ago, with her husband from Australia. They lived in the city some time, but then moved south, living in Marton and Wanganui. During her early life Mrs Savage took a keen interest in politics and was associated with some of the prominent political figures of the day. She was prominent also in organising and running women’s organisations during the First World War and after the war was a volunteer nurse in an emergency hospital during the influenza epidemic. She returned with her husband to Hamilton in 1926. Until ill-health prevented her taking an active part she was well-known in golfing and croquet circles. Mrs Savage was also a life member of the Waikato R.S.P.C.A. and a keen supporter of all its activities. The late Mr Savage was prominent in music activities in the city for many years, conducted bands, both here and elsewhere, and was an adjudicator. He died about 12 months ago. Mrs Savage is survived by one daughter, one son, and nine grandchildren.” (end of obituary). Violet Ada Savage died 1955 aged 73y and is buried in Hamilton East Cemetery. But while the Registrar-General has her as Violette Ada died 8 May 1955, the cemetery records have Violet Ada died 9 May 1955! There is a Violet (Violet Magdalene) Savage died 22 January 1947 in Karori Cemetery, but she is described as a spinster aged 85y. NB: Hamilton East, Waikumete and Karori Cemeteries as indicated by the NZSG Burial Locator CD. NB: my email yesterday did not have the correct title. Will send photo of obit when downloaded. There was no obituary in the New Zealand Bios on fiche for Arthur. Yours, John Wilson 3. Arthur Edward SAVAGE, died Hamilton NZ 1954 (Glenys Savage) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 16:10:01 +1030 From: Glenys Savage <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [nz] Arthur Edward SAVAGE, died Hamilton NZ 1954 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Looking for a Death notice and possibly an obituary for Arthur Edward SAVAGE whose death is Reg?d in Hamilton NZ in Jan 1954. Arthur was born 1881, CH CH, his parents James Samuel SAVAGE & Julia Ann, nee CALVERT. And also for his wife Violet Ada nee MATTHEWS who died in 1947, maybe also in Hamilton NZ. He was a music composer and teacher and both were heavily involved in music and theatre. Many thanks Glenys ------------------------------ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julie-Ann , I note that some family tree holders have Joseph Thomas Squire shown on their trees as having been born in England rather than in Canada . His marriage , in New Zealand , describes him as 'late of Bedford.' Lyttelton Times , Christchurch , NZ , 1 June 1875 MARRIAGES SQUIRE-CAMPBELL - May 28 , at the Kaiapoi Presbyterian Church , by the Rev W. McGregor , Joseph Thomas Squire , of Kaiapoi , late of Bedford , to Jane , second daughter of William Campbell , Kaiapoi , late of Selkirk. - Transcription courtesy of Beverley Evans Ray On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Olwyn Whitehouse <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Julie-Ann, > Can you make it a bit easier and narrow it down to where they first > settled? > Same with the Thomas YOUNG and Jessie Maud BEVAN family > North Island or South. > Canterbury or Otago or maybe Auckland? > > By train across the country to Vancouver or an Francisco. The US > transcontinental railway was completed about 1865. > There was the San Francisco Service, U.S. P.s. mail steamer, with a call > in to Honolulu and another call in at Fiji. > By 1870s regular transpacific crossings commenced. The Panama, New Zealand > & Australia Royal Mail Co. was formed June 15 1866 to operate monthly > sailings in each direction between Sydney, Wellington and Panama with four > ships. > > The Panama, New Zealand & Australia Royal Mail Co. was formed June 15 1866. > The Pacific Mail Steamship Company 1870s. > In 1885 the Oceanic Steamship Company obtained the subsidised mail > contract. > > > On 1 February 2017 at 02:56, Julie-Ann <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Interested in Joseph Thomas SQUIRE b 1846 Canada in NZ by 1875 > > > > Have his probate/employment etc and descendants but trying to locate his > > entry into NZ and also how would someone get to NZ from Ontario > > > > Thanks > > > > Julie-Ann > > > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

hi listers, My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into Manukau harbour.. Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? Chris Melbourne, Australia

Hello Olwyn Do know anything about the owners of this new website?  They supply no address, no contact details, and give no indication as to whether they have utilised the government records with permission or not.  I just hope this is not a vehicle for something sinister, and as I could not perceive any enhancement to the service I already get from the official site I do not expect to be returning to this one. Mary Message: 3 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:02:48 -0600 From: Olwyn Whitehouse <[email protected]> To: new-zealand <[email protected]> Subject: [nz] An alternative search tool for the NZ BDMs. Message-ID:     <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" https://bdm.psopho.co.nz https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/ Sort by clicking on the headings at the top of the columns. Narrow down the DOB or DOD to get date.

Hello list. Thank you for your suggestions and advice. I will BCC to myself all I rarely send to the list now adays. No, the emails were not in the junk box or refused by my server. I had words with them over it. Problem appears to have stated when I changed email address over 2 years ago, Roots web noted the change through the correct channels, BUT...... did not add me as a sender of messages to the list, only added me as a receiver of other list members emails. Now every email from the list is duplicated. It appears there is 2 lists of folk in Roots web, one list of receiving emails only and the other is receiving and sending emails to and from the list. I appear to now be on both. A bit confusing at my end. Robyn > Yvonne > > -----Original Message----- > From: NEW-ZEALAND > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Dragonplace > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2017 8:25 p.m. > To: [email protected] > Subject: [nz] where is mail going > > > Roots web > > I have been a member of Roots web for some years. > > Why are my emails no longer appearing when I send them to Roots web?? > > Robyn > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

https://bdm.psopho.co.nz https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/ Sort by clicking on the headings at the top of the columns. Narrow down the DOB or DOD to get date.

Way back before internet was established Anne PICKETS ran a fidonet BBS with a genealogy theme the fidonet system exchanged mail by dialup between BBS's I ran GENBOARD BBS in Wellington for the last few years of its existence yes sad to hear of Annes death On 2/02/17 6:16 PM, Adele Pentony-Graham wrote: > I am very sorry to read in NZSG Magazine the death of ANNE PICKETTS, > we never met, got very close some years ago when I was in WAIPU but > couldnt find her in town, she wasnt on duty at the Museum that day, I > had chance to be visiting with the King descendants and said I would > love to meet Anne at Waipu.. She had roots down at Clareville > Cemetery. > > Found Anne like most genealogist very helpful.. she will be sadly missed. > > Adele > -- Elwyn Goldsbury Pukerua Bay, Porirua 5026 phone Home +64-42398431 mobile +64-21-305522 skype = elwyn.goldsbury

Hi Terry , You could perhaps make e-mail enquiry to : Te Awahou Maori Womens Welfare League Foxton 4814 Contact: Secretary Rita Lilo, 53 Avenue Road (06) 363 8566 Treasurer: Colleen Henderson, 3 Hennessy St. Wet, Foxton Beach 4815, email [email protected] Cheers , Ray On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Terry Kavanagh <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi listers, > > Need to reconnect with a valuable contact. > > Aroha Beattie living in Foxton the last time I was in contact with her. > Current email is bouncing. If anyone knows Aroha or her husband Henry would > you please pass on my email address and ask if she would contact me please. > Have valuable contacts for her connection. > > Kindest regards, Terry(Kiwi in Aus) > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to Tracy, Blanche and Ray, Contact has been re-established. Thanks to all concerned. Much appreciated. Kind regards to all, Terry.

Hi listers, Need to reconnect with a valuable contact. Aroha Beattie living in Foxton the last time I was in contact with her. Current email is bouncing. If anyone knows Aroha or her husband Henry would you please pass on my email address and ask if she would contact me please. Have valuable contacts for her connection. Kindest regards, Terry(Kiwi in Aus)

Hi All: Arthur Edward Savage died on 31/12/1953 aged 72y according to the Registrar-General’s online historic records (gradually restrict search range), and the date is confirmed by the Auckland (Waikumete) Cemetery, Auckland database which says he was cremated, and occupation Music Teacher. He was born 8 September 1881. Violet Ada Savage died 1955 aged 73y and is buried in Hamilton East Cemetery (his wife?). But while the Registrar-General has her as Violette Ada died 8 May 1955, the cemetery records have Violet Ada died 9 May 1955. There is a Violet (or Violet Magdalene) Savage died 22 January 1947 in Karori Cemetery, but she is described as a spinster aged 85y. NB: Hamilton East, Waikumete and Karori Cemeteries as indicated by the NZSG Burial Locator CD. Yours, John Wilson 3. Arthur Edward SAVAGE, died Hamilton NZ 1954 (Glenys Savage) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 16:10:01 +1030 From: Glenys Savage <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [nz] Arthur Edward SAVAGE, died Hamilton NZ 1954 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Looking for a Death notice and possibly an obituary for Arthur Edward SAVAGE whose death is Reg?d in Hamilton NZ in Jan 1954. Arthur was born 1881, CH CH, his parents James Samuel SAVAGE & Julia Ann, nee CALVERT. And also for his wife Violet Ada nee MATTHEWS who died in 1947, maybe also in Hamilton NZ. He was a music composer and teacher and both were heavily involved in music and theatre. Many thanks Glenys ------------------------------ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Heather - Thank you, that is more than I had. Regards Glenys -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: 2 February, 2017 4:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 12, Issue 44 3. Arthur Edward SAVAGE, died Hamilton NZ 1954 (Glenys Savage) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 16:10:01 +1030 From: Glenys Savage <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [nz] Arthur Edward SAVAGE, died Hamilton NZ 1954 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Looking for a Death notice and possibly an obituary for Arthur Edward SAVAGE whose death is Reg?d in Hamilton NZ in Jan 1954. Arthur was born 1881, CH CH, his parents James Samuel SAVAGE & Julia Ann, nee CALVERT. And also for his wife Violet Ada nee MATTHEWS who died in 1947, maybe also in Hamilton NZ. He was a music composer and teacher and both were heavily involved in music and theatre. Many thanks Glenys ------------------------------

NZ Electoral Rolls :- Joseph Thomas Squire 1880-1881 Storeman , Kaiapoi Ray On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Olwyn Whitehouse <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Julie-Ann, > Can you make it a bit easier and narrow it down to where they first > settled? > Same with the Thomas YOUNG and Jessie Maud BEVAN family > North Island or South. > Canterbury or Otago or maybe Auckland? > > By train across the country to Vancouver or an Francisco. The US > transcontinental railway was completed about 1865. > There was the San Francisco Service, U.S. P.s. mail steamer, with a call > in to Honolulu and another call in at Fiji. > By 1870s regular transpacific crossings commenced. The Panama, New Zealand > & Australia Royal Mail Co. was formed June 15 1866 to operate monthly > sailings in each direction between Sydney, Wellington and Panama with four > ships. > > The Panama, New Zealand & Australia Royal Mail Co. was formed June 15 1866. > The Pacific Mail Steamship Company 1870s. > In 1885 the Oceanic Steamship Company obtained the subsidised mail > contract. > > > On 1 February 2017 at 02:56, Julie-Ann <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > Interested in Joseph Thomas SQUIRE b 1846 Canada in NZ by 1875 > > > > Have his probate/employment etc and descendants but trying to locate his > > entry into NZ and also how would someone get to NZ from Ontario > > > > Thanks > > > > Julie-Ann > > > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am very sorry to read in NZSG Magazine the death of ANNE PICKETTS, we never met, got very close some years ago when I was in WAIPU but couldnt find her in town, she wasnt on duty at the Museum that day, I had chance to be visiting with the King descendants and said I would love to meet Anne at Waipu.. She had roots down at Clareville Cemetery. Found Anne like most genealogist very helpful.. she will be sadly missed. Adele -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.

Hi All: Travel from Ontario to New Zealand in the 19th century would probably be by sea from Vancouver or San Francisco. In 1869 the Transcontinental Railroad to California was opened, and the “Frisco Mail” was then the quickest route for mail and newspapers from Britain to New Zealand. I think it was subsidised by the New Zealand Government. Yours, John Wilson Interested in Joseph Thomas SQUIRE b 1846 Canada in NZ by 1875 Have his probate/employment etc and descendants but trying to locate his entry into NZ and also how would someone get to NZ from Ontario Thanks, Julie-Ann

Looking for a Death notice and possibly an obituary for Arthur Edward SAVAGE whose death is Reg’d in Hamilton NZ in Jan 1954. Arthur was born 1881, CH CH, his parents James Samuel SAVAGE & Julia Ann, nee CALVERT. And also for his wife Violet Ada nee MATTHEWS who died in 1947, maybe also in Hamilton NZ. He was a music composer and teacher and both were heavily involved in music and theatre. Many thanks Glenys

She was very helpful, she will be missed. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: NEW-ZEALAND [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adele Pentony-Graham Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 3:17 PM To: New Zealand line Subject: [nz] ANNE PICKETTS I am very sorry to read in NZSG Magazine the death of ANNE PICKETTS, we never met, got very close some years ago when I was in WAIPU but couldnt find her in town, she wasnt on duty at the Museum that day, I had chance to be visiting with the King descendants and said I would love to meet Anne at Waipu.. She had roots down at Clareville Cemetery. Found Anne like most genealogist very helpful.. she will be sadly missed. Adele -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery. The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13876 - Release Date: 02/01/17

The Maori for river is awa. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: Graham L Jones Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:57 AM To: Murray Reid ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [nz] Tangitiki - Wairoa Yes but the most striking thing about it is the width rather than the length, though both are substantial. Ruawai (two waters) at the lower reaches is really back to front - usually it is object first then description, so it should be Wairua. Local signpost has both. Graham On 2/02/2017 10:48 a.m., Murray Reid wrote: > Most Maori place names are descriptive and "Wairoa" simply means river. > Wai is water > Roa is long > Therefore Wairoa is long water. > Murray Reid > Tuakau > > -----Original Message----- > From: NEW-ZEALAND > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Graham L Jones > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 10:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [nz] Tangitiki - Wairoa > > Yes even here in Dargaville it's always known and described as the > Northern > Wairoa river, and the area around it is known as Northern Wairoa - though > you won't find that on any map! > > Graham > > On 2/02/2017 10:12 a.m., Shirley Arabin wrote: >> There is also a Wairoa River in Tauranga. The river at Kaipara >> sometimes called the Northern Wairoa to make the distinction from all the > others. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NEW-ZEALAND >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Dragonplace >> Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2017 8:36 p.m. >> To: Ray Rob <[email protected]>; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [nz] Tangitiki - Wairoa >> >> Evening List >> >> Wairoa River I know is in the Hawkes Bay, it is large and I have swum in > it. >> Wairoa Stream is in the Coromandel area. >> >> Wairoa Pa is in the Wairoa Valley, Coromandel area and adjacent to >> Wairoa Stream. >> >> Please be careful in ensuring WHICH Wairoa you are writing about. >> >> Robyn >> >> >> On 31/01/17 08:47, Ray Rob wrote: >>> Hi Beth , >>> >>> Regarding the General election 1905 , 35 votes were cast at the >>> Tangitiki polling booth . >>> >>> Cheers , >>> Ray >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Beth Wagstaff <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> Evening all. >>>> On the western side of the Kaipara, on the edge of the Wairoa River >>>> and some 25 kms or so south of Dargaville, is a place now known as >>>> Tangitiki Bay. It would seem that quite a few people lived and >>>> worked there when it just known as Tangitiki. >>>> Around 1900, Tangitiki was a small community with a general store, >>>> wharf, and post office. A couple of dozen people at least lived >>>> there. The store owner was a man named Isaac McLeod. >>>> At that time, the area was part of Hobson County, but in 1989 it was >>>> merged into Kaipara District. >>>> I gather that the main occupation of those living there was gum >>>> digging. >>>> I am trying to find out about the village of Tangitiki - exactly >>>> where it was located, how people came to and went from there, were >>>> the people all gum-diggers, is any part of the community/houses >>>> still >> left standing? >>>> And also, if anyone has access to the 1901 census for the area, I >>>> would be most grateful to know who lived there and the other details >>>> from the census.. >>>> Can anyone help me? >>>> Many thanks, >>>> Beth >>>> >>>> >>>> The List Guidelines >>>> >>>> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> The List Guidelines >>> >>> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -- > Graham Jones, > 139 Hokianga Road, > DARGAVILLE 0310 > 09-439-8519 > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Graham Jones, 139 Hokianga Road, DARGAVILLE 0310 09-439-8519 The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message