Hello Looking for a death notice for Winifred Ellen Poppy SNELL died 17 September 1963 Auckland and believe buried Whangarei. Fred St John PARSON died 1 July 1994 died Auckland. Many thanks Jocelyn

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzlscant/Glanville.htm#awards I have place what we have so far out here. Unit 8th AIF 2nd Aust. Inf. Brigade 1st Aust. Division 1st Anzac Corps 25/6/16 Date of Recommendation These 14 men acted as runners between firing line, Bn Hd Qrs & advanced Bde Hd Qrs during the Battn attack on Poziers. Their devotion to duty was a thing to marvel at, not one hesitated a moment with result that Bn Hd Qrs & Bde were kept informed of the position. The work of Runners and stretcher bearers is the most dangerous of all; how any survived the full fury of Poziers is a wonder. Telephonic & orders ? requesting {?signalling ____} was impossible thus all this work of communication devolved on these runners. These fourteen men guided the relieving Brigade to its position. Recommended by ____ G. Coulter O/C 8th Bn.

Re moving to Auckland, 1844, an offer by the Governor to provide passages from New Plymouth to elsewhere in the colony of those wanting to move is mentioned in the Nelson Examiner and New Zealand Chronicle of 12 October 1844 (search Papers Past for “Victoria”). A meeting of tradesman and labourers had been held in the Devon Hotel, New Plymouth on 2 & 3 August about the depressed state of the settlement. From the New Zealand Gazette and Wellington Spectator of 14 August 1844 the settlers were blaming the land commissioner William Spain for not confirming land claims. https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ Yours, John Wilson Hello. I understand that in December 1844, the Government brig VICTORIA was involved in ferrying unhappy settlers from the New Plymouth settlement to Auckland. I cannot find any reference to this however on the net. Does anyone know whether this is correct? Or have any information about it? And if it did happen, is there a list of name of those settlers who travelled to Auckland. I would like to see if my rellies were among them. Thanks, Beth

https://www.awm.gov.au/people/rolls/R1620137/ https://www.awm.gov.au/people/roll-search/honours_and_awards/ These 14 men acted as runners between firing line, Bn Hd Qrs & advanced Bde Hd Qrs during the Battn attack on Poziers. Their devotion to duty was a thing to marvel at, not one hesitated a moment with _____that Bn Hd Qrs & Bde were kept informed of the position. The work of Runners and stretcher bearers is the most dangerous of all; how any survive __ ?hell fury of Poziers is a wonder. Telephonic & orders requesting ______ _____ ____ all this work of communication devolved on these runners. These fourteen men __ the running B___ to the position. Recommended by ____ G. Coulter O/C 8th Bn. Thanks. Ronald Belfield Glannville was a New Zealander.

Hi Beth and All: Re moving to Auckland (1840s); in September 1840 Governor Hobson established his headquarters in Auckland, and there was resentment in Wellington when he “enticed” some 60 artisans and labourers to move there by January 1841. New Plymouth like Wellington was a New Zealand Company settlement, and they would have had free passage to New Zealand from the company. If your relatives moved to Auckland they might be in the Auckland Pioneer Roll, printed in 1940 (the Wellington Pioneer Roll was a card index, with notes and correspondence by Dr Scholefield held in the Wellington Public Library). “The establishment of the New Plymouth Settlement in New Zealand by Rutherford and Skinner (1940, 1969) covers only 1841 to 1843; it says many papers from 1843 to 1848 were destroyed in a storage cleanout “until the vandalism was discovered” (p219). Yours, John Wilson Subject: [nz] Government brig VICTORIA 1844 Hello. I understand that in December 1844, the Government brig VICTORIA was involved in ferrying unhappy settlers from the New Plymouth settlement to Auckland. I cannot find any reference to this however on the net. Does anyone know whether this is correct? Or have any information about it? And if it did happen, is there a list of name of those settlers who travelled to Auckland. I would like to see if my rellies were among them. Thanks, Beth

Hello Beth if you belong to the NZSG you could always write to the New Plymoth branch as I know they have a lot of information. I hope thia may help in some small way. Happy Hunting Pauline Message: 4 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 10:56:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Beth Wagstaff <[email protected]> To: New-zealand <[email protected]> Subject: [nz] Government brig VICTORIA 1844 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello.?I understand that in December 1844, the Government brig VICTORIA was involved in ferrying unhappy settlers from the New Plymouth settlement to Auckland. I cannot find any reference to this however on the net. Does anyone know whether this is correct? ?Or have any information about it? And if it did happen, is there a list of name ?of those settlers who travelled to Auckland. ?I would like to see if my rellies were among them. Thanks, ?Beth ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the NEW-ZEALAND list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the NEW-ZEALAND mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 12, Issue 51 *******************************************

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Hello. Does SKS know anything about the railway cottage that used to belong to surveyor John Rochford in Ohakune. I understand that his railway cottage was removed from its original position and re-sited sometime in the late 1980's/early 1990's.   It was originally some 2.5 kms from Ohakune Junction, and I was told it had 3 bedrooms.. I am enquiring for an elderly relative who lived in the house as a child, and is keen to learn of its whereabouts or its fate. Any information would be most appreciated. Thanks, Beth

Hello. I understand that in December 1844, the Government brig VICTORIA was involved in ferrying unhappy settlers from the New Plymouth settlement to Auckland. I cannot find any reference to this however on the net. Does anyone know whether this is correct?  Or have any information about it? And if it did happen, is there a list of name  of those settlers who travelled to Auckland.  I would like to see if my rellies were among them. Thanks,  Beth

Thank you again listers for your insights and suggestions. I will now concentrate my search on ships arriving Otago and Lyttleton, and will take note of Olwyn's wisdom..that I might not find them esp if they travelled in steerage. I live in hope Regards Chris Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olwyn Whitehouse" <[email protected]> To: "new-zealand" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's > Remember there is a good chance you may never be able to identify which > vessel an immigrant ancestor was aboard but still get back to the old > country. Probably in steerage. > > Lyttelton Times 13 May 1854 SHIPPING NEWS. > ARRIVED. May 11, ship Hashemy, 523 tons, Ross, from Sydney, via Newcastle. > Passengers, Major and Mrs. Hyne, Messrs. Burchett, Mrs. Ross, and servant, > Mrs. C. Moore, Mrs. Lane, Dr. and Mrs. Welsh, and 2 children. > > > New Zealander 12 August 1854 Page 2 > PORT OF AUCKLAND. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. ARRIVALS. > August ll— Nelson, screw steamer, Martin, at Manukau, from Port Victoria, > Wellington, Nelson, and New Plymouth. Passengers, from Lyttelton — Mr. and > Mrs. Petcival, Mr. Moore, Mr. Seal. > I have a Henry Dench who must have been hiding in the bilges if he arrived > when he said he did from the West India Docks in Poplar, London - 1851 > into Canterbury. That is not him on the Travancore. He flipped back and > forth to Melbourne many times from Dunedin. Even got married in Melbourne. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/dench.htm > > On 4 February 2017 at 14:44, Murray Reid <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree, especially once steamers became common. >> My grandparents emigrated from Ashburton to Grey Lynn in Auckland just >> before the main trunk railway was completed. >> Their route was Lyttleton to Wellington by steamer, rail to New Plymouth >> and >> then steamer to Onehunga. He moved with Mr. Crum to set up the brick >> business. >> Murray Reid >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NEW-ZEALAND >> [mailto:[email protected] >> ] >> On Behalf Of Rowan Gibbs >> Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2017 2:22 PM >> To: Chris <[email protected]>; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's >> >> Onehunga (on the Manukau) was a (probably the) major port for local >> shipping >> -- smaller ships ... >> >> Rowan Gibbs >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 11:35 AM >> Subject: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's >> >> >> > hi listers, >> > >> > My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early >> > 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into >> > Manukau harbour.. >> > >> > Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the >> > city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach >> > Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? >> > >> > Chris >> > >> > Melbourne, Australia >> > >> > >> > The List Guidelines >> > >> > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree, especially once steamers became common. My grandparents emigrated from Ashburton to Grey Lynn in Auckland just before the main trunk railway was completed. Their route was Lyttleton to Wellington by steamer, rail to New Plymouth and then steamer to Onehunga. He moved with Mr. Crum to set up the brick business. Murray Reid -----Original Message----- From: NEW-ZEALAND [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rowan Gibbs Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2017 2:22 PM To: Chris <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's Onehunga (on the Manukau) was a (probably the) major port for local shipping -- smaller ships ... Rowan Gibbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 11:35 AM Subject: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's > hi listers, > > My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early > 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into > Manukau harbour.. > > Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the > city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach > Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? > > Chris > > Melbourne, Australia > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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On 4/02/2017 4:41 PM, Chris wrote: > Hi listers, > > i would welcome some more help please. > > My ancestors were Adam Moore b Ireland 1818- Lisburne, County Antrim and Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr/Carr who was born c 1820 County Tyrone. Both were convicts. > I have traced them from Ireland to VDL, their lives in Tasmania, then to Port Fairy in 1849 where they stayed for 3-4 yrs. I have not been able to find a record of a coastal ship carrying them from Port Fairy to Melbourne. > > My next piece of information is on Auckland Area Passenger arrivals where I located the son, Adam Moore who was born in 1853 in Victoria- but no birth registration. He is listed, along with his wife Catherine Moore nee Lynch on the addresses to Sir George Grey, as having been born in or arrived in NZ in 1853. Catherine was born in Northland c 1852. So this information ties in the Adam Moore and Charlotte and family as arriving in NZ in 1853. I also have their signatures and DOB/Arrival from Archives NZ. > > I believe that Adam and Charlotte had 3 boys born in Victoria Mathew c 1849, Robert c1851 and Adam c 1853- and there are no birth registrations. Have tracked and located the sons, their mariages, family, deaths and events in newspapers > > I have no knowledge of the name of the ship they sailed on from Australia. However I have concentrated my searches in Auckland including the newspapers, and perhaps the search area needs to include Otago area. I am grasping at straws here! Some years ago I found my GGF's arrival in NZ in 1869, by scanning the complete set of arrivals on microfiche IN REGISTER ORDER! As it was a computer print-out, I'm amazed that it hadn't been sorted by names. Brian Fleming, Melbourne

Hi listers, i would welcome some more help please. My ancestors were Adam Moore b Ireland 1818- Lisburne, County Antrim and Charlotte Richardson aka Kerr/Carr who was born c 1820 County Tyrone. Both were convicts. I have traced them from Ireland to VDL, their lives in Tasmania, then to Port Fairy in 1849 where they stayed for 3-4 yrs. I have not been able to find a record of a coastal ship carrying them from Port Fairy to Melbourne. My next piece of information is on Auckland Area Passenger arrivals where I located the son, Adam Moore who was born in 1853 in Victoria- but no birth registration. He is listed, along with his wife Catherine Moore nee Lynch on the addresses to Sir George Grey, as having been born in or arrived in NZ in 1853. Catherine was born in Northland c 1852. So this information ties in the Adam Moore and Charlotte and family as arriving in NZ in 1853. I also have their signatures and DOB/Arrival from Archives NZ. I believe that Adam and Charlotte had 3 boys born in Victoria Mathew c 1849, Robert c1851 and Adam c 1853- and there are no birth registrations. Have tracked and located the sons, their mariages, family, deaths and events in newspapers I have no knowledge of the name of the ship they sailed on from Australia. However I have concentrated my searches in Auckland including the newspapers, and perhaps the search area needs to include Otago area. I am grasping at straws here! The copies of death printouts for Adam and Charlotte have no personal/family information , nor any years in NZ. Adam died in Jan 1883 in Auckland hosp and Charlotte died April 1882 also in the hospital. Ages at death are 66 Adam, and 62 Charlotte . There is a significant newspaper article in Auckland papers on 18 Aug 1881 which lists the family composition for Adam the butcher. It confirms his wife's name and the names of his 3 sons who were born out of wedlock, and notes thatAdam failed in his legal effort to sue his 3 sons for lack of financial support because in the court's eyes "they were illegitimate" ! My major brickwall is in not knowing exactly when they arrived in NZ and on which ship, and for this I need your assistance please. Adam worked as a butcher and he is variously listed on Jury lists and Charlotte was successful in 1865 in gaining a tender to do the laundry for both the Auckland hospital and Asylum . I have a lot of information but vital arrival details are missing Any assistance would be much appreciated . Chris Melbourne

Remember there is a good chance you may never be able to identify which vessel an immigrant ancestor was aboard but still get back to the old country. Probably in steerage. Lyttelton Times 13 May 1854 SHIPPING NEWS. ARRIVED. May 11, ship Hashemy, 523 tons, Ross, from Sydney, via Newcastle. Passengers, Major and Mrs. Hyne, Messrs. Burchett, Mrs. Ross, and servant, Mrs. C. Moore, Mrs. Lane, Dr. and Mrs. Welsh, and 2 children. New Zealander 12 August 1854 Page 2 PORT OF AUCKLAND. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. ARRIVALS. August ll— Nelson, screw steamer, Martin, at Manukau, from Port Victoria, Wellington, Nelson, and New Plymouth. Passengers, from Lyttelton — Mr. and Mrs. Petcival, Mr. Moore, Mr. Seal. I have a Henry Dench who must have been hiding in the bilges if he arrived when he said he did from the West India Docks in Poplar, London - 1851 into Canterbury. That is not him on the Travancore. He flipped back and forth to Melbourne many times from Dunedin. Even got married in Melbourne. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/dench.htm On 4 February 2017 at 14:44, Murray Reid <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree, especially once steamers became common. > My grandparents emigrated from Ashburton to Grey Lynn in Auckland just > before the main trunk railway was completed. > Their route was Lyttleton to Wellington by steamer, rail to New Plymouth > and > then steamer to Onehunga. He moved with Mr. Crum to set up the brick > business. > Murray Reid > > -----Original Message----- > From: NEW-ZEALAND [mailto:[email protected] > ] > On Behalf Of Rowan Gibbs > Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2017 2:22 PM > To: Chris <[email protected]>; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's > > Onehunga (on the Manukau) was a (probably the) major port for local > shipping > -- smaller ships ... > > Rowan Gibbs > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 11:35 AM > Subject: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's > > > > hi listers, > > > > My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early > > 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into > > Manukau harbour.. > > > > Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the > > city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach > > Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? > > > > Chris > > > > Melbourne, Australia > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Sat, 4 Feb 2017 Chris <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> messaged > Subject: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850’s > > hi listers, > > My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into Manukau harbour.. > > Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? > > Chris > > Melbourne, Australia Hi Chris It’s usually a good idea to post the name of the folk whose arrival you are looking for. Ships came to Auckland from many directions, including over the bar to Onehunga. Many of the ships coming to NZ came via Bluff, Dunedin etc. Your ancestors’ names may be in one of the Port Fairy passenger lists on Jenny Fawcett’s website http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/westdist.htm Hope this helps Graham Hoult Kirwee, Canterbury

Hello Chris Do you know the name of the boat that your ancestors sailed to NZ on? Knowing the name of the boat will give us a better chance of determining which port it wentto. Cheers Gavin On 4/02/2017 11:35 a.m., Chris wrote: > hi listers, > > My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into Manukau harbour.. > > Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? > > Chris > > Melbourne, Australia > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- emailsig_b *Gavin W Petrie* 64 Sunnyhills Ave. Glenview Hamilton 3206 New Zealand Mob: - 027 416 8909 Skype:- gavinpetrie If you are interested in "Immigrant Ships to New Zealand" between 1835 and 1910, pay my website a visit at:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eshipstonz> <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eshipstonz>

Onehunga (on the Manukau) was a (probably the) major port for local shipping -- smaller ships ... Rowan Gibbs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 11:35 AM Subject: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's > hi listers, > > My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early > 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into > Manukau harbour.. > > Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the > city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach > Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? > > Chris > > Melbourne, Australia > > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The distance from Victoria to the Manukau Harbour is less than to the Waitemata Harbour but the entrance to the Manukau Harbour is guarded by a very dangerous bar. NZ's worst shipping disaster (HMS Orpheus) happened there. I may be proven wrong but my guess is that most ships preferred to sail an extra day, but arrive safely. Murray Reid -----Original Message----- From: NEW-ZEALAND [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Saturday, 4 February 2017 11:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [nz] Sailing ships into Auckland 1850's hi listers, My ancestors sailed from Port Fairy in Victoria to Auckland in early 1850's. I would like to clarify with you that the ship would sail into Manukau harbour.. Assuming this to be correct, how far is it from Manukau harbour to the city centre of Auckland and how would a young man and his family reach Auckland in 1853...with 3 little children? Chris Melbourne, Australia The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message