Hi – this is a very old post but I could help with some information. If you are still looking for information please contact me. My Mother was married to Frederick Leathley before he married Evelyn. Kind regards Caroline Turnock

Long term I am writing a book about their ancestry in Northamptonshire. Their family and life in Temuka, Alford Forest & Mt Somers. If you have not been in contact with me or have changed your contact details please get in touch. Stan Smith

Chris, Attached is the Register page - looks like both had been in CHCH for 9 months Ken -----Original Message----- From: Chris <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 4:10 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Re: Look up please- Intention to marry- Catherine Charlotte Moore and Henry Robert Charles Bailey 1874 Thank you Ken for your continued generosity. It would be good to know what is on this ITM. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Woodgate" <ken.woodgate@xtra.co.nz> To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 1:49 PM Subject: [nz]Re: Look up please- Intention to marry- Catherine Charlotte Moore and Henry Robert Charles Bailey 1874 > Chris, > > I will be at Archives sometime next week - so could have a look at it > - assuming you have not already had an offer > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris <ckealy@ozemail.com.au> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:30 PM > To: NZ RootsWeb <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [nz]Look up please- Intention to marry- Catherine Charlotte > Moore and Henry Robert Charles Bailey 1874 > > 1874/12301 Catherine Charlotte Moore Henry Robert Charles Bailey > > > > I am hoping that someone can look up this ITM please. I don't know > where the couple was married.The online registration is 1874/12301. > The Folio no. > is > 2200 from the Marriages CD. > Am interested in years in colony, age and any parental details. > Thanking you, > > Chris > > in > Melbourne > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/new-zealand > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/new-zealand > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/new-zealand Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

No worries Glenda, there are clues to his whereabouts in his war record, that's digitised through our archives, its quite long. I'll email your information today. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 6:09 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Re: FRANKLYN You are doing well Jenelle. I only found "after years of searching" my Mums brother 2 years ago next month. I was visiting his son only a fortnight ago in OZ! The reason we couldn't find UNCLE was he changed his name layout, the spelling of his surname and when joining the army gave a false year of birth. I will take anything you have found or maybe you can send me links. He had left NZ about 1939 and had last been seen/heard from in 1950 with no address just a note saying in Adelaide so Grandma's will was for the 2 girls only. I will write off here and give you my private email. Glenda -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 24 July 2018 19:01 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 180 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. WILLIAM ARTHUR FRANKLYN (FRANKLIN) B 1905, DUNEDIN SON OF ARTHUR COMBS FRANKLYN/ANNIE LIZA SAYNOR (Jenelle McCarrick) 2. Re Gisborne Herald Death Notices (Levonne Watson) 3. Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad (mytrees2013) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 08:49:09 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]WILLIAM ARTHUR FRANKLYN (FRANKLIN) B 1905, DUNEDIN SON OF ARTHUR COMBS FRANKLYN/ANNIE LIZA SAYNOR To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601d422d7$5e98eb20$1bcac160$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda, let me know what details you want on the above, I have his marriage certificate to Joan Mayes, 1942, his baptism certificate, his court appearances from the NZ Police Gazette and photo, his war record from WW2 (that's digitized in the national Archives of Australia), maybe another warrant for him in the South Australia Gazettes for maintenance of a child. His motherAnnie Liza Franklyn (nee Saynor) has a will, digitized through the familysearch site, where she names her 2 daughters Jessie Beatrice Franklyn (married a BOOTH) and Dorothy Bell Franklyn (married a KYLE), no mention of the son. Seems William and Joan divorced State Archives of New South Wales site sometime between 8/3/1949-2/8/1951. Jenelle. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:40:42 +1200 (NZST) From: Levonne Watson <levonne.watson@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [nz]Re Gisborne Herald Death Notices To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <243095071.2130380.1532396442827@webmail.xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am wanting copies of the following Death Notices which were published in the Gisborne Herald Sydney Thomas GRAY died 16 June 1947 Audrey Louise HOLDSWORTH died 17 March 1985 Doris Audrey Lucy WILSON died 24 Feb 1992 Is there willing person who lives in the Gisborne area willing to do look ups and copying of these death notices - I'm willing to reimburse for any expenses. Please contact me off list Levonne Watson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 19:00:48 +1200 From: "mytrees2013" <mytrees2013@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000e01d4231c$0f6f35f0$2e4da1d0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Janelle. I was using my memory in most cases when writing this out and put my Mums brothers name as my Grandfather in error. I have done every shipping list on this earth I think...In Australia and in New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 23 July 2018 8:00 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 178 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Shing (Judy Berntsen) 2. Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD (Jenelle McCarrick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 22:30:59 +1200 From: Judy Berntsen <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Shing To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAL4b0vTZ=jyoCrOcmZwx_HXeMQ3tu2kihJFQW9M2_6YQonN=2Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Shirley Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send me the details of the people you want information on, preferably dates or approximate time frame. What you want to know is also needed, and their Christian names, otherwise I can't do anything. Please give this your urgent attention. Regards Judy Berntsen On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <barugh@farmside.co.nz> wrote: > I should have mentioned they were around New Plymouth. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:59:47 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d421f6$8b5916d0$a20b4470$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda on the BDM New Zealand it shows the name Arthur Coombs Franklyn marrying Annie Liza SAYNOR 1903/1023, have you checked the passenger lists through the familysearch site? Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:56 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD Thank you for any help with this. NOTE: I have verified all information below it is the questions at the bottom I need help with. Annie WALE born Cir 1864 presume UK At age 19 she gave birth to Ann Eliza WALE on 26 Mar 1884 in Sydney. This child (my G/Ma) was registered in Sydney aged 3 months and it stated Mother Annie WALE, currently in New Zealand Ann Eliza, also known as Annie Eliza - Annie Liza - Ann Eliza. She took her Foster Parents name SAYNOR. She was "found" in shipping records going from Dunedin, New Zealand to Melbourne, Australia on the Westralia on 21 July 1902. On the 18 March 1903 a "Consent to marriage" was given (in Dunedin) when her and Grandad wanted to marry, he had been in the district 3 months and it stated permission given by her mother that piece of paper is missing in the court records. On her marriage to my Grandfather (who lived around the road from where she had lived with her "parents" in Melbourne) it said she had been in the District (Dunedin) 13 months. SO the questions are: When did Grandfather (Arthur Combes FRANKLYN) leave and Australia to New Zealand. Other than finding Grandma leaving Dunedin to Melbourne in 1902 I have never found her outward journey and her return to NZ journey Never found her mother Annie WALE in New Zealand, in Australia or leaving either country to go elsewhere. Never found a marriage for her. 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Glenda I think I found 2 Wale deaths on the BDM, I wouldn't take too much notice about ages...they chop and change a bit. Have you tried Victoria for her. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 5:57 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Re: G/Ma and G/Dad Thanks again Janelle. I already have all the information you have given me. Grandma's ashes have disappeared, they were "returned to the funeral director" but past that we don't know, he is out of business and I have enquired everywhere to see where she might be. She is not here in Dunedin and not with her husband in Invercargill. She lived with us for several years and dies when I was 10 Grandma died in her bed the bed next to mine in my bedroom, I was present. I don't think my Mum DOROTHY knew any of her mother's history it was never spoken about and I can only presume they met in Melbourne. When I started this journey I was able to show her fuller information. I think she believed she came from UK. The Arthur arrival in NZ in 1890's is not my Arthur. Anne WALE would have been 81 in 1945 she was born 1864 so not her death. Funny newspaper article, G/Dad was a drinker G/Ma moved the family to Invercargill when my Mum was a child (school child) about 1918? as prohibition was down there and it was done to stop G/Dads habit. Glenda -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 23 July 2018 20:04 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 179 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ANNIE WALE/SAYNOR & ARTHUR COOMBS FRANKLYN (Jenelle McCarrick) 2. Re: Shing (barugh@farmside.co.nz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 07:25:09 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]ANNIE WALE/SAYNOR & ARTHUR COOMBS FRANKLYN To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d42202$784bf5b0$68e3e110$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda, There is a death of an Anne Wale in the BDM New Zealand 1945/29198 age 68. Annie Eliza FRANKLYN nee Saynor died 1956, age 72, cremated 13/7/1956, details on the Dunedin cemetery site, (says she's been in New Zealand 70 years, native of Australia). Arthur her husband died 1948, he's in the Invercargill cemetery. They had these children:- Dorothy Bell Franklyn b 1912 Jessie Beatrice Saynor Franklyn b 1904 William Arthur Franklyn b 1905. Arthur Coombs Franklyn was born in Victoria 1875, there are some arrivals in the 1890's into Bluff and Dunedin of Arthur Franklyn in the passenger lists on familysearch. You can find some stories on Arthur Franklyn in papers past. Jenelle. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:42:51 +1200 From: <barugh@farmside.co.nz> Subject: [nz]Re: Shing To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5b55086b.13d0.b5dffb90.5ecfd30d@farmside.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed HI, im just doing it myself. I've got most of the info i need. thanks for your offer though. Regards Shirley Barugh PS are you related to the Berntsens who were from Oparau? On Sunday 22/07/2018 at 10:31 pm, Judy Berntsen wrote: > Hello Shirley > > Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send > me the details of the people you want information on, preferably > dates or approximate time frame. 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No worries. Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 5:01 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad Thanks Janelle. I was using my memory in most cases when writing this out and put my Mums brothers name as my Grandfather in error. I have done every shipping list on this earth I think...In Australia and in New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 23 July 2018 8:00 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 178 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Shing (Judy Berntsen) 2. Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD (Jenelle McCarrick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 22:30:59 +1200 From: Judy Berntsen <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Shing To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAL4b0vTZ=jyoCrOcmZwx_HXeMQ3tu2kihJFQW9M2_6YQonN=2Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Shirley Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send me the details of the people you want information on, preferably dates or approximate time frame. What you want to know is also needed, and their Christian names, otherwise I can't do anything. Please give this your urgent attention. Regards Judy Berntsen On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <barugh@farmside.co.nz> wrote: > I should have mentioned they were around New Plymouth. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:59:47 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d421f6$8b5916d0$a20b4470$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda on the BDM New Zealand it shows the name Arthur Coombs Franklyn marrying Annie Liza SAYNOR 1903/1023, have you checked the passenger lists through the familysearch site? Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:56 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD Thank you for any help with this. NOTE: I have verified all information below it is the questions at the bottom I need help with. Annie WALE born Cir 1864 presume UK At age 19 she gave birth to Ann Eliza WALE on 26 Mar 1884 in Sydney. This child (my G/Ma) was registered in Sydney aged 3 months and it stated Mother Annie WALE, currently in New Zealand Ann Eliza, also known as Annie Eliza - Annie Liza - Ann Eliza. She took her Foster Parents name SAYNOR. She was "found" in shipping records going from Dunedin, New Zealand to Melbourne, Australia on the Westralia on 21 July 1902. On the 18 March 1903 a "Consent to marriage" was given (in Dunedin) when her and Grandad wanted to marry, he had been in the district 3 months and it stated permission given by her mother that piece of paper is missing in the court records. On her marriage to my Grandfather (who lived around the road from where she had lived with her "parents" in Melbourne) it said she had been in the District (Dunedin) 13 months. SO the questions are: When did Grandfather (Arthur Combes FRANKLYN) leave and Australia to New Zealand. Other than finding Grandma leaving Dunedin to Melbourne in 1902 I have never found her outward journey and her return to NZ journey Never found her mother Annie WALE in New Zealand, in Australia or leaving either country to go elsewhere. Never found a marriage for her. 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You are doing well Jenelle. I only found "after years of searching" my Mums brother 2 years ago next month. I was visiting his son only a fortnight ago in OZ! The reason we couldn't find UNCLE was he changed his name layout, the spelling of his surname and when joining the army gave a false year of birth. I will take anything you have found or maybe you can send me links. He had left NZ about 1939 and had last been seen/heard from in 1950 with no address just a note saying in Adelaide so Grandma's will was for the 2 girls only. I will write off here and give you my private email. Glenda -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 24 July 2018 19:01 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 180 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. WILLIAM ARTHUR FRANKLYN (FRANKLIN) B 1905, DUNEDIN SON OF ARTHUR COMBS FRANKLYN/ANNIE LIZA SAYNOR (Jenelle McCarrick) 2. Re Gisborne Herald Death Notices (Levonne Watson) 3. Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad (mytrees2013) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 08:49:09 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]WILLIAM ARTHUR FRANKLYN (FRANKLIN) B 1905, DUNEDIN SON OF ARTHUR COMBS FRANKLYN/ANNIE LIZA SAYNOR To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601d422d7$5e98eb20$1bcac160$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda, let me know what details you want on the above, I have his marriage certificate to Joan Mayes, 1942, his baptism certificate, his court appearances from the NZ Police Gazette and photo, his war record from WW2 (that's digitized in the national Archives of Australia), maybe another warrant for him in the South Australia Gazettes for maintenance of a child. His motherAnnie Liza Franklyn (nee Saynor) has a will, digitized through the familysearch site, where she names her 2 daughters Jessie Beatrice Franklyn (married a BOOTH) and Dorothy Bell Franklyn (married a KYLE), no mention of the son. Seems William and Joan divorced State Archives of New South Wales site sometime between 8/3/1949-2/8/1951. Jenelle. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:40:42 +1200 (NZST) From: Levonne Watson <levonne.watson@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [nz]Re Gisborne Herald Death Notices To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <243095071.2130380.1532396442827@webmail.xtra.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am wanting copies of the following Death Notices which were published in the Gisborne Herald Sydney Thomas GRAY died 16 June 1947 Audrey Louise HOLDSWORTH died 17 March 1985 Doris Audrey Lucy WILSON died 24 Feb 1992 Is there willing person who lives in the Gisborne area willing to do look ups and copying of these death notices - I'm willing to reimburse for any expenses. Please contact me off list Levonne Watson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 19:00:48 +1200 From: "mytrees2013" <mytrees2013@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Trying to find GMa and Gdad To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000e01d4231c$0f6f35f0$2e4da1d0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Janelle. I was using my memory in most cases when writing this out and put my Mums brothers name as my Grandfather in error. I have done every shipping list on this earth I think...In Australia and in New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 23 July 2018 8:00 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 178 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Shing (Judy Berntsen) 2. Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD (Jenelle McCarrick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 22:30:59 +1200 From: Judy Berntsen <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Shing To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAL4b0vTZ=jyoCrOcmZwx_HXeMQ3tu2kihJFQW9M2_6YQonN=2Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Shirley Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send me the details of the people you want information on, preferably dates or approximate time frame. What you want to know is also needed, and their Christian names, otherwise I can't do anything. Please give this your urgent attention. Regards Judy Berntsen On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <barugh@farmside.co.nz> wrote: > I should have mentioned they were around New Plymouth. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:59:47 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d421f6$8b5916d0$a20b4470$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda on the BDM New Zealand it shows the name Arthur Coombs Franklyn marrying Annie Liza SAYNOR 1903/1023, have you checked the passenger lists through the familysearch site? Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:56 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD Thank you for any help with this. NOTE: I have verified all information below it is the questions at the bottom I need help with. Annie WALE born Cir 1864 presume UK At age 19 she gave birth to Ann Eliza WALE on 26 Mar 1884 in Sydney. This child (my G/Ma) was registered in Sydney aged 3 months and it stated Mother Annie WALE, currently in New Zealand Ann Eliza, also known as Annie Eliza - Annie Liza - Ann Eliza. She took her Foster Parents name SAYNOR. She was "found" in shipping records going from Dunedin, New Zealand to Melbourne, Australia on the Westralia on 21 July 1902. On the 18 March 1903 a "Consent to marriage" was given (in Dunedin) when her and Grandad wanted to marry, he had been in the district 3 months and it stated permission given by her mother that piece of paper is missing in the court records. On her marriage to my Grandfather (who lived around the road from where she had lived with her "parents" in Melbourne) it said she had been in the District (Dunedin) 13 months. SO the questions are: When did Grandfather (Arthur Combes FRANKLYN) leave and Australia to New Zealand. Other than finding Grandma leaving Dunedin to Melbourne in 1902 I have never found her outward journey and her return to NZ journey Never found her mother Annie WALE in New Zealand, in Australia or leaving either country to go elsewhere. Never found a marriage for her. 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Thanks again Janelle. I already have all the information you have given me. Grandma's ashes have disappeared, they were "returned to the funeral director" but past that we don't know, he is out of business and I have enquired everywhere to see where she might be. She is not here in Dunedin and not with her husband in Invercargill. She lived with us for several years and dies when I was 10 Grandma died in her bed the bed next to mine in my bedroom, I was present. I don't think my Mum DOROTHY knew any of her mother's history it was never spoken about and I can only presume they met in Melbourne. When I started this journey I was able to show her fuller information. I think she believed she came from UK. The Arthur arrival in NZ in 1890's is not my Arthur. Anne WALE would have been 81 in 1945 she was born 1864 so not her death. Funny newspaper article, G/Dad was a drinker G/Ma moved the family to Invercargill when my Mum was a child (school child) about 1918? as prohibition was down there and it was done to stop G/Dads habit. Glenda -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 23 July 2018 20:04 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 179 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ANNIE WALE/SAYNOR & ARTHUR COOMBS FRANKLYN (Jenelle McCarrick) 2. Re: Shing (barugh@farmside.co.nz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 07:25:09 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]ANNIE WALE/SAYNOR & ARTHUR COOMBS FRANKLYN To: <NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d42202$784bf5b0$68e3e110$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda, There is a death of an Anne Wale in the BDM New Zealand 1945/29198 age 68. Annie Eliza FRANKLYN nee Saynor died 1956, age 72, cremated 13/7/1956, details on the Dunedin cemetery site, (says she's been in New Zealand 70 years, native of Australia). Arthur her husband died 1948, he's in the Invercargill cemetery. They had these children:- Dorothy Bell Franklyn b 1912 Jessie Beatrice Saynor Franklyn b 1904 William Arthur Franklyn b 1905. Arthur Coombs Franklyn was born in Victoria 1875, there are some arrivals in the 1890's into Bluff and Dunedin of Arthur Franklyn in the passenger lists on familysearch. You can find some stories on Arthur Franklyn in papers past. Jenelle. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 10:42:51 +1200 From: <barugh@farmside.co.nz> Subject: [nz]Re: Shing To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5b55086b.13d0.b5dffb90.5ecfd30d@farmside.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed HI, im just doing it myself. I've got most of the info i need. thanks for your offer though. Regards Shirley Barugh PS are you related to the Berntsens who were from Oparau? On Sunday 22/07/2018 at 10:31 pm, Judy Berntsen wrote: > Hello Shirley > > Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send > me the details of the people you want information on, preferably > dates or approximate time frame. 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Thanks Janelle. I was using my memory in most cases when writing this out and put my Mums brothers name as my Grandfather in error. I have done every shipping list on this earth I think...In Australia and in New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: 23 July 2018 8:00 AM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 178 Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to new-zealand@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Shing (Judy Berntsen) 2. Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD (Jenelle McCarrick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 22:30:59 +1200 From: Judy Berntsen <judy.berntsen01@gmail.com> Subject: [nz]Re: Shing To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAL4b0vTZ=jyoCrOcmZwx_HXeMQ3tu2kihJFQW9M2_6YQonN=2Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hello Shirley Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send me the details of the people you want information on, preferably dates or approximate time frame. What you want to know is also needed, and their Christian names, otherwise I can't do anything. Please give this your urgent attention. Regards Judy Berntsen On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <barugh@farmside.co.nz> wrote: > I should have mentioned they were around New Plymouth. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 05:59:47 +1000 From: "Jenelle McCarrick" <jmac2014@antmail.com.au> Subject: [nz]Re: TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD To: <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001d421f6$8b5916d0$a20b4470$@antmail.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glenda on the BDM New Zealand it shows the name Arthur Coombs Franklyn marrying Annie Liza SAYNOR 1903/1023, have you checked the passenger lists through the familysearch site? Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:56 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD Thank you for any help with this. NOTE: I have verified all information below it is the questions at the bottom I need help with. Annie WALE born Cir 1864 presume UK At age 19 she gave birth to Ann Eliza WALE on 26 Mar 1884 in Sydney. This child (my G/Ma) was registered in Sydney aged 3 months and it stated Mother Annie WALE, currently in New Zealand Ann Eliza, also known as Annie Eliza - Annie Liza - Ann Eliza. She took her Foster Parents name SAYNOR. She was "found" in shipping records going from Dunedin, New Zealand to Melbourne, Australia on the Westralia on 21 July 1902. On the 18 March 1903 a "Consent to marriage" was given (in Dunedin) when her and Grandad wanted to marry, he had been in the district 3 months and it stated permission given by her mother that piece of paper is missing in the court records. On her marriage to my Grandfather (who lived around the road from where she had lived with her "parents" in Melbourne) it said she had been in the District (Dunedin) 13 months. SO the questions are: When did Grandfather (Arthur Combes FRANKLYN) leave and Australia to New Zealand. Other than finding Grandma leaving Dunedin to Melbourne in 1902 I have never found her outward journey and her return to NZ journey Never found her mother Annie WALE in New Zealand, in Australia or leaving either country to go elsewhere. Never found a marriage for her. 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I am wanting copies of the following Death Notices which were published in the Gisborne Herald Sydney Thomas GRAY died 16 June 1947 Audrey Louise HOLDSWORTH died 17 March 1985 Doris Audrey Lucy WILSON died 24 Feb 1992 Is there willing person who lives in the Gisborne area willing to do look ups and copying of these death notices - I'm willing to reimburse for any expenses. Please contact me off list Levonne Watson

Glenda, let me know what details you want on the above, I have his marriage certificate to Joan Mayes, 1942, his baptism certificate, his court appearances from the NZ Police Gazette and photo, his war record from WW2 (that's digitized in the national Archives of Australia), maybe another warrant for him in the South Australia Gazettes for maintenance of a child. His motherAnnie Liza Franklyn (nee Saynor) has a will, digitized through the familysearch site, where she names her 2 daughters Jessie Beatrice Franklyn (married a BOOTH) and Dorothy Bell Franklyn (married a KYLE), no mention of the son. Seems William and Joan divorced State Archives of New South Wales site sometime between 8/3/1949-2/8/1951. Jenelle.

HI, im just doing it myself. I've got most of the info i need. thanks for your offer though. Regards Shirley Barugh PS are you related to the Berntsens who were from Oparau? On Sunday 22/07/2018 at 10:31 pm, Judy Berntsen wrote: > Hello Shirley > > Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send > me > the details of the people you want information on, preferably dates > or > approximate time frame. What you want to know is also needed, and > their > Christian names, otherwise I can't do anything. Please give this your > urgent attention. > > Regards > > Judy Berntsen > > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <barugh@farmside.co.nz> wrote: > >> >> I should have mentioned they were around New Plymouth. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. >> com/listindexes/search/new-zealand/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/new-zealand > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community

Glenda, There is a death of an Anne Wale in the BDM New Zealand 1945/29198 age 68. Annie Eliza FRANKLYN nee Saynor died 1956, age 72, cremated 13/7/1956, details on the Dunedin cemetery site, (says she's been in New Zealand 70 years, native of Australia). Arthur her husband died 1948, he's in the Invercargill cemetery. They had these children:- Dorothy Bell Franklyn b 1912 Jessie Beatrice Saynor Franklyn b 1904 William Arthur Franklyn b 1905. Arthur Coombs Franklyn was born in Victoria 1875, there are some arrivals in the 1890's into Bluff and Dunedin of Arthur Franklyn in the passenger lists on familysearch. You can find some stories on Arthur Franklyn in papers past. Jenelle.

Glenda on the BDM New Zealand it shows the name Arthur Coombs Franklyn marrying Annie Liza SAYNOR 1903/1023, have you checked the passenger lists through the familysearch site? Jenelle. -----Original Message----- From: mytrees2013 [mailto:mytrees2013@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:56 PM To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]TRYING TO FIND GRANDMA AND GRANDAD Thank you for any help with this. NOTE: I have verified all information below it is the questions at the bottom I need help with. Annie WALE born Cir 1864 presume UK At age 19 she gave birth to Ann Eliza WALE on 26 Mar 1884 in Sydney. This child (my G/Ma) was registered in Sydney aged 3 months and it stated Mother Annie WALE, currently in New Zealand Ann Eliza, also known as Annie Eliza - Annie Liza - Ann Eliza. She took her Foster Parents name SAYNOR. She was "found" in shipping records going from Dunedin, New Zealand to Melbourne, Australia on the Westralia on 21 July 1902. On the 18 March 1903 a "Consent to marriage" was given (in Dunedin) when her and Grandad wanted to marry, he had been in the district 3 months and it stated permission given by her mother that piece of paper is missing in the court records. On her marriage to my Grandfather (who lived around the road from where she had lived with her "parents" in Melbourne) it said she had been in the District (Dunedin) 13 months. SO the questions are: When did Grandfather (William Arthur FRANKLYN) leave and Australia to New Zealand. Other than finding Grandma leaving Dunedin to Melbourne in 1902 I have never found her outward journey and her return to NZ journey Never found her mother Annie WALE in New Zealand, in Australia or leaving either country to go elsewhere. Never found a marriage for her. Glenda _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/new-zealand Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com

Hello Shirley Is there someone else doing your research for you. If not please send me the details of the people you want information on, preferably dates or approximate time frame. What you want to know is also needed, and their Christian names, otherwise I can't do anything. Please give this your urgent attention. Regards Judy Berntsen On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, <barugh@farmside.co.nz> wrote: > I should have mentioned they were around New Plymouth. > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thank you for any help with this. NOTE: I have verified all information below it is the questions at the bottom I need help with. Annie WALE born Cir 1864 presume UK At age 19 she gave birth to Ann Eliza WALE on 26 Mar 1884 in Sydney. This child (my G/Ma) was registered in Sydney aged 3 months and it stated Mother Annie WALE, currently in New Zealand Ann Eliza, also known as Annie Eliza - Annie Liza - Ann Eliza. She took her Foster Parents name SAYNOR. She was "found" in shipping records going from Dunedin, New Zealand to Melbourne, Australia on the Westralia on 21 July 1902. On the 18 March 1903 a "Consent to marriage" was given (in Dunedin) when her and Grandad wanted to marry, he had been in the district 3 months and it stated permission given by her mother that piece of paper is missing in the court records. On her marriage to my Grandfather (who lived around the road from where she had lived with her "parents" in Melbourne) it said she had been in the District (Dunedin) 13 months. SO the questions are: When did Grandfather (William Arthur FRANKLYN) leave and Australia to New Zealand. Other than finding Grandma leaving Dunedin to Melbourne in 1902 I have never found her outward journey and her return to NZ journey Never found her mother Annie WALE in New Zealand, in Australia or leaving either country to go elsewhere. Never found a marriage for her. Glenda

Hi, I am looking to make contact with someone who is connected to these families. Please reply to me 'off list’ Thanks Margaret

Thanks. I have him. It's the ones I listed I'm interested in. On 20-Jul-18 8:33:21 PM, Susan Wann <wannsusan@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Bryan You describe a big family, so finding one branch should give you some leads to the others. I have just sent you something about a John Fitzpatrick, son of Charles. John was born at Balcairn and was a policeman. Susan Wann On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Bryan wrote: > In the 1860/70's, many of this family emigrated to NZ, specifically North > Canterbury, settling around Balcairn, nr Amberley. > There are a number of the men and women whom I haven't been able to follow > up or trace in NZ. > I would be interested if anyone has an interest in any of these names: > Family 1. > Mary Anne Fitzpatrick, b c.1856 (immigration 1873) > Hugh Fitzpatrick, b 1854 (imm. 1873) may be buried Rotorua 1908. > Charles " b Jul 1856 (") > Patrick " b c. 1857 (") maybe a marriage to Bridget WALSH > in 1887 > Michael " b c. 1862 (") maybe a marriage to Margaret > MERRIGAN in 1882 > [All of the above as much as I can gather, were the children of John > Fitzpatrick (b c. 1801) and Rose CRANE b c 1801)] > Family 2. > Mary Fitzpatrick b 1846 (immigration 1861) > Britta " b c. 1857 (") She is aged 4 at > immmigration. The name I believe is a diminutive for Bridget. As there is a > Bridget with her father on the ship, Britta may be her daughter. > [These two and 4 others are the children of Thomas Fitzpatrick (b c.1802) > (brother of John above) and Ann COYLE b c 1812)] > > Thank you > Bryan > Kaiapoi > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/new-zealand Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Bryan You describe a big family, so finding one branch should give you some leads to the others. I have just sent you something about a John Fitzpatrick, son of Charles. John was born at Balcairn and was a policeman. Susan Wann On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Bryan <bryannp@gmail.com> wrote: > In the 1860/70's, many of this family emigrated to NZ, specifically North > Canterbury, settling around Balcairn, nr Amberley. > There are a number of the men and women whom I haven't been able to follow > up or trace in NZ. > I would be interested if anyone has an interest in any of these names: > Family 1. > Mary Anne Fitzpatrick, b c.1856 (immigration 1873) > Hugh Fitzpatrick, b 1854 (imm. 1873) may be buried Rotorua 1908. > Charles " b Jul 1856 (") > Patrick " b c. 1857 (") maybe a marriage to Bridget WALSH > in 1887 > Michael " b c. 1862 (") maybe a marriage to Margaret > MERRIGAN in 1882 > [All of the above as much as I can gather, were the children of John > Fitzpatrick (b c. 1801) and Rose CRANE b c 1801)] > Family 2. > Mary Fitzpatrick b 1846 (immigration 1861) > Britta " b c. 1857 (") She is aged 4 at > immmigration. The name I believe is a diminutive for Bridget. As there is a > Bridget with her father on the ship, Britta may be her daughter. > [These two and 4 others are the children of Thomas Fitzpatrick (b c.1802) > (brother of John above) and Ann COYLE b c 1812)] > > Thank you > Bryan > Kaiapoi > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Mangere Lawn Cemetery photo Thank you for replies. I had contacted them thanks Sue, They confirmed plot details, but they do not have a photo database or take photos. Yes I had checked Find A Grave Shona. There was no photo but I will request a photo from a volunteer. Many thanks Jan On 19 July 2018 at 09:29, <new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Send NEW-ZEALAND mailing list submissions to > new-zealand@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > new-zealand-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NEW-ZEALAND digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mangere Lawn Cemetery photo (Jan Arnst) > 2. Re: Mangere Lawn Cemetery photo (Sue king) > 3. Re: Mangere Lawn Cemetery photo (Shona Young) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:54:54 +1200 > From: Jan Arnst <janarnstnz@gmail.com> > Subject: [nz]Mangere Lawn Cemetery photo > To: new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAL+Ljox2V+ihvE9qMptbo+fD_ys9yLXcWtUsrvZiL9-FSE9pyQ@ > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello, > > If you are in the vicinity of the Mangere Lawn Cemetery and would be > willing to take a headstone photo for me, please contact me. > > Many thanks > Jan > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:22:37 +1200 > From: Sue king <sueray2002@gmail.com> > Subject: [nz]Re: Mangere Lawn Cemetery photo > To: "new-zealand@rootsweb.com" <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAHrDzgqyUSa92-Zf4_84Nec8qp_kziunOi7sJC9h4pK3aJea+A@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Jan > > Have you tried asking Mangere Cemetery? > > Regards Sue > > On Thursday, July 19, 2018, Jan Arnst <janarnstnz@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > If you are in the vicinity of the Mangere Lawn Cemetery and would be > > willing to take a headstone photo for me, please contact me. > > > > Many thanks > > Jan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 07:29:35 +1000 > From: Shona Young <sbak50@gmail.com> > Subject: [nz]Re: Mangere Lawn Cemetery photo > To: NZ List <new-zealand@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAPo_jdjtA1BZ=4bXner9hUMwBLsgQg76CWLUxpZe9_F1EghaTQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Jan, > The cemetery is up on Findagrave and you could request a photo from a > volunteer. I have had much success with this site. You will need to > register but doesn't cost anything. > https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2189759/mangere-lawn-cemetery > Let me know if you want me to do a lookup to see if the headstone is > already up. > Regards, > Shona > > On 19 July 2018 at 05:54, Jan Arnst <janarnstnz@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > If you are in the vicinity of the Mangere Lawn Cemetery and would be > > willing to take a headstone photo for me, please contact me. > > > > Many thanks > > Jan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > > com/listindexes/search/new-zealand > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NEW-ZEALAND mailing list -- > new-zealand@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 13, Issue 169 > ******************************************** >