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    1. [nz]Surname interests RAWLINGS, DUGGAN, HORNBY, HARDING-COLLIS / COLLIS(S), TANKARD, GLASGOW, McFALL,
    2. dawn rayner
    3. I have joined the new list at newzealand@groups.io Kind regards, Dawn Rayner

    03/02/2020 04:43:15
    1. [nz]Re: New subject: Re: Tokatoka Cemetery
    2. Dianne Moulden
    3. My husbands ggrandfather died sept 1914 age abt 44 in Tokatoka I cannot find a death entry for him but his name has possible be wrongly transcribed. There is a entry on microfiche for a John Mrclak who died in sept 1914 – his correct name was Ivan Mrzljak but Ivan may have been anglised to John + the surname written as was spoken so I think the John Mrclak is my Ivan Mzrljak I have looked at Tokatoka cemetery online to no avail so maybe he was buried somewhere else. He was a Gumdigger who came to NZ with his son + unfortunately died shortly after arriving in NZ Any advice will be welcome Kind Regards Di Moulden

    03/01/2020 06:58:10
    1. [nz]Re: Cutover
    2. Adele Pentony-Graham
    3. Thanks Hugh... am over!!! Adele -----Original Message----- From: hugh <hugh@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Sunday, 1 March 2020 8:56 AM To: NewZealand List <new-zealand@rootsweb.com>; nz-auckland@rootsweb.com Subject: [nz]Cutover Last day of the rootsweb lists today! If you a subscriber to the above lists, and not subscribed to the new list, you need to do so now. To do this, Go to https://groups.io/g/newzealand Hugh Listowner _______________________________________________ The List Guidelines http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/29/2020 01:17:40
    1. [nz]Cutover
    2. hugh
    3. Last day of the rootsweb lists today! If you a subscriber to the above lists, and not subscribed to the new list, you need to do so now. To do this, Go to https://groups.io/g/newzealand Hugh Listowner

    02/29/2020 12:55:48
    1. [nz]Re: [newzealand] ALBERT BELLEMIN
    2. Olwyn Whitehouse
    3. Good catch Adele. Interesting to see an error on the NZBDMs site. I think the age is right but the first name wrong. NZBDMS 1884 Bellemin Arthur 50Y [maybe it is a typo on the NZBDM site] [they might check and correct it. They do fix things when pointed out.] https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Paynter-601 Jane Frances (Paynter) Bellemin (1838 - 1909) ALBERT Bellemin died 9 Aug 1884 aged 52. Arthur was the son who served in WW1. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bellemin-2 He married twice. Macdonald Dictionary- no DOB listed https://collection.canterburymuseum.com/search In Sep 1884 in the Timaru court, the estate of Albert Bellemin of Gladstone, who died intestate, was placed in charge of the Public Trustee. Maybe the answer to his age lies in CHCH or Wellington Christchurch City Library Church Register cards How old was he when he married? https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP18840811.2.7 Evening Post 11 August 1884 Page 2 The Timaru correspondent of the Lyttelton Times writes :— " Albert Bellmain, whose death by accident is reported from Wellington, was known here. I knew him well - a visionary, impulsive creature, who never mode his mark. He had served in the French Navy, and had been employed in some capacity by the Prince de Jomville. His temperament kept him in a chronic state of trouble ; but he was a kindly, clever, energetic soul." On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 00:07, Adele Pentony-Graham <PentonyGraham@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > When he married he was ALBERT in 1866.. so where did they get Arthur from. > He had a son Albert who served and survived WW1. > > NEW ZEALAND MAIL paper has him as ARTHUR BELLEMIN., its easy to make > errors, > but harder to rectify.. > Albert when he married by Very Rev. the Dean of Christchurch. 20 December > 1866. Lyttleton Times. > > > Adele >

    02/28/2020 07:09:25
    1. [nz]HeritageTalk on Auckland Libraries Soundcloud channel - Kick-start your research with Michelle Patient
    2. Seonaid Lewis
    3. HeritageTalk on Auckland Libraries Soundcloud channel - Kick-start your research with Michelle Patient Kick-start your family history research with Michelle Patient Recorded live at the Auckland Central Library on 29 January 2020 Our first HeritageTalk for 2020 will find an audience with family historians however our speaker’s suggestions and insights for getting the most out of your research can also be applied more widely. Michelle Patient is an experienced family history researcher and genealogist and here reveals some of the things you may be missing in the course of your research and how taking a closer look can be the key to unlocking some of your family mysteries. https://soundcloud.com/auckland-libraries/ready-1 To hear more from Michelle, especially in the field of DNA and its implications for your research, see our HeritageTalks 2019 playlist: bit.ly/2SOSDwN Ngā mihi | Kind regards - Seonaid Seonaid (Shona) Lewis RLIANZA BA ILS DipRIM | Senior research librarian, family history (Mon-Fri) Te Kohinga Rangahau mō Tāmaki Makaurau | Research Central Tāmaki Pātaka Kōrero - Central City Library Ngā Pātaka Kōrero o Tāmaki Makaurau - Auckland Libraries Phone 09 890 2411 | Extn (46) 2411 Auckland Council, 44-46 Lorne Street, Auckland Twitter: @Kintalk Facebook: Auckland Research Centre<https://www.facebook.com/AkldResearchCentre/?ref=settings> Come along to our FREE lunchtime HeritageTalks<https://www.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/pages/search-results.aspx?k=HeritageTalks> fortnightly on Wednesdays between February and November Subscribe to Central Library’s events newsletters by emailing centrallibraryevents@aucklandcouncil.govt.nz<mailto:centrallibraryevents@aucklandcouncil.govt.nz> Kura Heritage Collections Online is now live! Kura provides easy and free access to our world-renowned heritage collections. Explore Kura now: https://kura.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/<https://kura.aucklandlibraries.govt.nz/?fbclid=IwAR02DuyNwn3XSVAwKlfaSUsG3NbreuWfVNB94AXGGUobgf-7r5W6z52_kh8> CAUTION: This email message and any attachments contain information that may be confidential and may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this message or attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error please notify us immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. We do not accept responsibility for any viruses or similar carried with our email, or any effects our email may have on the recipient computer system or network. Any views expressed in this email may be those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Council.

    02/27/2020 12:23:32
    1. [nz]Re: Previous electoral rolls
    2. Sue & Evan Thomas
    3. Thanks - have found both the Nelson library and the genealogy rooms both have them so will be able to check next time I am in town. > On 26/02/2020, at 8:36 PM, Sue king <sueray2002@gmail.com> wrote: > > Have you tried the library? > > Regards Sue > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Sue & Evan Thomas < > sueandevanthomas@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Can anyone please tell me where I can look up the Nelson electoral roll >> that came before the current one. >> >> The current one is in the local council office but I need to look at the >> one before that. >> >> Thanks >> >> Sue Thomas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@ >> rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/26/2020 01:48:00
    1. [nz]Re: Previous electoral rolls
    2. Sue & Evan Thomas
    3. Have found two sources of the recently made redundant electoral rolls so will look up the names I need when next in town. Thanks for your help - would rather not list them. Sue > On 27/02/2020, at 9:42 AM, winterscollection@gmail.com wrote: > > What are the names you are searching for? > > Hugh > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/26/2020 01:47:15
    1. [nz]Re: Previous electoral rolls
    2. What are the names you are searching for? Hugh

    02/26/2020 01:42:11
    1. [nz]Surname Johns
    2. Beverley Smith
    3. Good morning 're the surname John's I went to high school in New Zealand with a girl called Greta John's who I lost contact with any connection? Regards Beverley in England

    02/26/2020 01:22:54
    1. [nz]Re: WILLIAM JOHNS, CARTER, WELLINGTON
    2. Angela Reynolds
    3. Hi Andrew Great to get a response to my old posting from 2011. As this Rootsweb list is closing in the next few weeks, I've posted my main response to the groups.io address. If for any reason my response doesn't get thru to you, please email me directly at <angela.reynolds@xtra.co.nz> Angela

    02/26/2020 01:16:56
    1. [nz]Re: Previous electoral rolls
    2. Sue king
    3. Have you tried the library? Regards Sue On Wednesday, February 26, 2020, Sue & Evan Thomas < sueandevanthomas@gmail.com> wrote: > Can anyone please tell me where I can look up the Nelson electoral roll > that came before the current one. > > The current one is in the local council office but I need to look at the > one before that. > > Thanks > > Sue Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@ > rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    02/26/2020 12:36:52
    1. [nz]Previous electoral rolls
    2. Sue & Evan Thomas
    3. Can anyone please tell me where I can look up the Nelson electoral roll that came before the current one. The current one is in the local council office but I need to look at the one before that. Thanks Sue Thomas

    02/25/2020 11:25:54
    1. [nz]Re: [NZ] Bartholomews of Levin and Fielding
    2. Hi Blair I would very much like to speak with you in regards our Bartholomew heritage. I am currently assembling a booklet about the family. It would be fabulous to touch base. I am a great great great grand daughter of Peter Bartholomew. He is to be celebrated by towns folk of Levin before long. They are currently gathering information on early settlers and intend to invite family. They will be unveiling plaques one of which will be of Peter. Kind regards Jenny Hainsworth Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

    02/25/2020 08:31:41
    1. [nz]Re: WILLIAM JOHNS, CARTER, WELLINGTON
    2. Hi, Trying to make contact with Angela Reynolds (yes 9 years later!)... I'm researching Lionel Fairfax Furner JOHNS (1919-1943) and would like more information... your post suggests you may be related to him? ...Andrew Gibson

    02/25/2020 08:11:57
    1. [nz]Re: Nelson Lunatic Asylum - death of Ann Gill 1886
    2. Re death of Ann Gill 1886 - The "died of burns" idea is a mistake, probably a confusion with another family member. There was even a description of what they were doing floating around at one time. You should order the coroner's report from Archives NZ Wellington Office which makes it quite clear: ". .[from] copy of Coroner's inquest into Ann's death: Died 7 Jun 1886 in Nelson Lunatic Asylum from congestion of the lungs after having been admitted on 1 Nov 1885 suffering from chronic mania. Her husband had died on 17 Mar 1885, when she was 53." Mary Skipworth -----Original Message----- From: new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com <new-zealand-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 23 February 2020 10:46 AM 4. Re: Nelson Lunatic Asylum / Ngawhatu Psychiatric Hospital records (Chucky) I am looking for an ancestory member by the name of Ann Gill who died of burns in 1886 and I think in the Nelson lunatic asylum from what I can gather. It has been suggested she died of congestion of the lungs due to burns I would assume. There is no mention of her dying of burns in this institution but I think that is what happened. Her husband died a year or so before that. Can you help with my enquiry. Not sure where to look. Kind regards Victoria Alexander ancestry.com.au <http://ancestry.com.au/> member ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to %(real_name)s-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NEW-ZEALAND mailing list -- new-zealand@rootsweb.com, send an email to %(real_name)s@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)s-request@%(host_name)s with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of NEW-ZEALAND Digest, Vol 15, Issue 62 *******************************************

    02/22/2020 03:06:46
    1. [nz]Re: Nelson Lunatic Asylum / Ngawhatu Psychiatric Hospital records
    2. Shirley Arabin
    3. I would try Papers past as it might have been in the news. Do you have the death certificate? it should say cause of death. Check Archway for her name and see if there is a coroners inquest. Try whatever the current DHB is in Nelson to see if records of asylum still exist. (I had luck in Otago with that and found a man in Charitable Aid home as they still had the records at Archives) but I needed DHB permission to read them. On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 10:46 AM Chucky <chedna1@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi Judith > > I am looking for an ancestory member by the name of Ann Gill who died of > burns in 1886 and I think in the Nelson lunatic asylum from what I can > gather. It has been suggested she died of congestion of the lungs due to > burns I would assume. There is no mention of her dying of burns in this > institution but I think that is what happened. Her husband died a year or > so before that. Can you help with my enquiry. Not sure where to look. > > Kind regards > > > Victoria Alexander > ancestry.com.au <http://ancestry.com.au/> member > > _______________________________________________ > > The List Guidelines > > http://new-zealand-l.blogspot.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/new-zealand@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    02/22/2020 02:50:13
    1. [nz]Re: Nelson Lunatic Asylum / Ngawhatu Psychiatric Hospital records
    2. Chucky
    3. Hi Judith I am looking for an ancestory member by the name of Ann Gill who died of burns in 1886 and I think in the Nelson lunatic asylum from what I can gather. It has been suggested she died of congestion of the lungs due to burns I would assume. There is no mention of her dying of burns in this institution but I think that is what happened. Her husband died a year or so before that. Can you help with my enquiry. Not sure where to look. Kind regards Victoria Alexander ancestry.com.au <http://ancestry.com.au/> member

    02/22/2020 01:27:12
    1. [nz]HENDERSON, WEBB, AULD, SMITH and others
    2. Glennis Austin
    3. Hi Everyone This is an update of my New Zealand connections which I am also posting to the old Rootsweb list. George HENDERSON and Frances (Fanny) Gordon SWAN arrived in New Zealand in the early 1860's.  They were both from Scotland although it is unsure if they knew each other prior to their arrival.  In 1866 they married in Oamaru and had 11 children all born in Oamaru. Catherine (m. WEBB), Annie Campbell (m. DUIGUID), Frances Margaret Ellen (spinster), James Keir, Margaret Keir (m. CARRAD), twins George Matheson (m. BRADLEY) and William Kirk (m. HASTINGS), Helen Swan (m. LITTLE), Cecilia Swan (m. WATERWORTH), Robert Keir (m. GLASS) and John Henry Ransom.  They eventually moved to Wellington in the mid-1890's. John Robert WEBB arrived in Oamaru from Cold Hatton Shropshire in time to be a witness to the 1884 marriage of his brother James to Barbara PORTEOUS. In 1888  John Robert married Catherine HENDERSON in Oamaru and there were nine children - Frances Ada (b. Oamaru), George Frederick (b. Orari), Annie Violet Helen (b. Oamaru, m. NICOLSON). By 1895 the family had moved to Martinborough where the rest of the family were born Cecilia Margaret (m. STRATTON), Catherine Freda (m. AULD), John, Hilda (m. KRUCK), Robert, Vera Constance (m. BUDD & BLOMMAART).  In 1913/14 the family moved to Wanganui. John Robert's older brother, James WEBB arrived in Oamaru from Shropshire abt 1878 and in 1884 he married Barbara PORTEOUS in Oamaru where they remained. There were eight children - Barbara (m. McINTOSH), John (m. BELL), James (m. LEONARD), Ethel (m. THOMPSON), Edith (m. BROWN), George Porteous (m. MARK), William Arthur (m. WILLETTS & VIVIAN) and Lucy (m. GEE). Henry SMITH and Mary Ann SWAN arrived in Napier in 1874 from Dover with eight of their 10  children (two died in England) - Frances Emma (m. SMITH & MEAR), Frank (m. DANCE), Henry (Harry) (m. SWAN), Mary Elizabeth (m. CUNNINGHAME), Martha Ann (m. AULD), George, William Albert (m. PREBBLE), Robert (m. MARTIN). The next seven were born in New Zealand - Minnie Flora (m. GARROD), Benjamin Albert, Davis Ormond (m. SMITH), James (m. SMITH & FISHER), Charles Joseph (m. HIBBERD), Ethel May, Ernest John (m. BENNETT). The family initially lived in Napier before moving to Ormondville and a life of sawmilling with the children and their families in various parts of the lower North Island.  Henry and Mary Ann eventually returned to the Hawkes Bay and Havelock North.  A very detailed book was published in 2017,  "Milling the Family Tree: Henry and Mary Ann SMITH and their family" by Robyn SPURDLE and Jan BEDINGFIELD.  It was a marathon 12+ year effort and I was privileged to be a part of it.  There is a good description of the book, its Contents and various Libraries which have it on the shelves here https://www.worldcat.org/title/milling-the-family-tree-henry-mary-ann-smith-and-their-family/oclc/990218578 Thomas AULD and his younger siblings orphaned in Scotland in 1873 were separated to go and live with friends or family. Thomas came to New Zealand in 1879 as Thomas Auld SMITH, son of Motherwell neighbours Adam SMITH and Sophia WILSON (second relationship for both) and two of their children Adam (m. KNOCK in NZ ) and Jane Bell (m. REISIMA and ADAMSON in NZ), an older son John remained in Scotland. The ship was met in Napier by two other children James Bell SMITH (m. MUMFORD in NZ) and Sophia (m. 1870 Robert RUSSELL in Dalziel). Thomas continued using the SMITH name including on NZ Electoral Rolls until at least 1893, then reverted to Thomas AULD. The association with descendants of his adopted family continues today.  In 1887 he married Martha Ann SMITH in the Ormondville area, they had four children - Jessie Catherine (m. HALL & LEAN), Pearl Euphemia (m. WHITE), Robert Wilson and Thomas Vernon (m. WEBB). Thomas senior worked with his father-in-law Henry and other members of the SMITH family in the sawmilling business, moving around the lower North Island to wherever the work took them. However, by 1911 Thomas and Martha settled in Wanganui before making a move to Wellington about 1931. Thank you for reading. Kind regards Glennis New Zealand (glennis.austin@gmail.com)

    02/20/2020 09:44:35
    1. [nz]Re: another DACRE twig - northland N.Z.
    2. Hello Graham ,I am researching this family too as we are related,,,,please can you tell me if Roberta DACRE ( aka Bobby ) born Auckland c. 1904 was married in 1927 at Suva, Fiji to Arthur Joseph DIXON...had chidren ,,,would so like to trace the family. They married in Suva Fiji.You may already know by now ,my email bregmarsh@xtra.co.nz Thank you.Bobbie's father was my fathers uncle. Taveuni fiji.

    02/15/2020 10:20:06