Hello List: I would like to thank everyone who responded to my request for possible migration routes from Haskell Co., TX to Lincoln Co., NM. Now I can narrow my search down to a smaller number of counties. Thanks again everyone. Liz Freeman

Liz, We are cousins! I am decended from John & Mary Ann O'Neill McFARLAND, too. I am decended from David William, Henry Calvin's brother. David is my maternal ggfather. Email me directly and perhaps we can share more information. Blessings, Donna MAY-CRETE donnabruce@jps.net "Elizabeth E. Freeman" wrote: > Donna: > > My family wound up in Arabella, Meek, and Carrizozo in Lincoln County. > > I note with interest two of your family names - McFarland and O'Neal - any > connection to the John Walter and Mary Ann (O'Neil) McFarland family. One > of my family members (Claudia May Casner) married one of their sons, Henry > Calvin McFarland. > > Would like to hear back from you if it is the same family. > > Liz Freeman > > I don't know if this will help you or not, but my family, also cattle > folk, lived in Lampasa, Gonzales & Hamilton TX. They then went to Nm, > mostly the Lincoln Co, NM area. Due to water shortages, some of my family > then went on to Pima/Ft. Huachuca, AZ area. Family names: McFARLAND, > BARTELL, HENRY, O'NEAL. > > > > > > > > Could someone on this list advise me of a possible migration route circa > 1900 from TX to NM. > > ==== NEW-MEXICO Mailing List ==== > NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com > LIST ADM. Patricia L. Hall > phhgene@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search over 64,000,000 records in the Social Security Death Index: > http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/

Hello All: Could someone on this list advise me of a possible migration route circa 1900 from TX to NM. I have a family that was in Haskell County, TX in 6-1902; they then appear on the 1910 census in Lincoln County, NM. I have located several marriage records of the children in Lincoln County between 1905-1910. The family had a fairly large herd of horses and possibly a large herd of sheep (although it is possible the sheep had been sold before they moved to NM). I have studied maps of TX and NM (unfortunately I do not have any for 1900-1910) in an effort determine what might have been the migration route. One daughter was married circa 1906 between Haskell County, TX and Lincoln County, NM prior to the 1910 census. The grandfather died somewhere along the way. It appears I need to search several counties, but first I would like some input as to a possible migration route. Any information or thoughts would be so appreciated. Liz Freeman

Hi Elizabeth. I don't know if this will help you or not, but my family, also cattle folk, lived in Lampasa, Gonzales & Hamilton TX. They then went to Nm, mostly the Lincoln Co, NM area. Due to water shortages, some of my family then went on to Pima/Ft. Huachuca, AZ area. Family names: McFARLAND, BARTELL, HENRY, O'NEAL. Hope that helps. Blessings, Donna MAY-CRETE "Elizabeth E. Freeman" wrote: > Hello All: > > Could someone on this list advise me of a possible migration route circa 1900 from TX to NM. > > I have a family that was in Haskell County, TX in 6-1902; they then appear on the 1910 census in Lincoln County, NM. I have located several marriage records of the children in Lincoln County between 1905-1910. > > The family had a fairly large herd of horses and possibly a large herd of sheep (although it is possible the sheep had been sold before they moved to NM). I have studied maps of TX and NM (unfortunately I do not have any for 1900-1910) in an effort determine what might have been the migration route. One daughter was married circa 1906 between Haskell County, TX and Lincoln County, NM prior to the 1910 census. The grandfather died somewhere along the way. It appears I need to search several counties, but first I would like some input as to a possible migration route. > > Any information or thoughts would be so appreciated. > > Liz Freeman > > ==== NEW-MEXICO Mailing List ==== > NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com > LIST ADM. Patricia L. Hall > phhgene@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search over 64,000,000 records in the Social Security Death Index: > http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/

Here is the time and the only info I have on them, My Grandparents as found on the 1920 Censes listed with 7 of the 9 children:..I have names if you need them. Desiderio ABEYTA b. 1875 Albuq,Bernalillo Co,NM d.? Married: Francisquita SANCHEZ b. 1888 d.? ----------------------------------------------------------- This was found on VR Mariages of Albuq.NM dated 1900-1910: --- Desiderio ABEYTA age 27 Albuq. Teofila Sanchez y Chavez 19 Albuq. 26 November 1904 P.Tommasini Pastor S.H.CH. --------------------------- The dates are correct for my grandfather but her name is not..also...His first born Clemente ABEYTA was born 13 August 1905. Which is about right too..9 months after the marriage...So I believe she could be my grandmother.. ------------------------------- You can also view this same info on my MaternalABEYTA page below! I would love for you to view the AASF microfilms at the Special Collections Library in Albuquerque. Maybe you can clarify some of this up for me..Thank you for the offer...THANK YOU! Actually you were the only one so far to give me a responce..THANK YOU! http://community-2.webtv.net/RAbeyta/MaternalABEYTALine/

Yes, the "Y " means " and" and the two last name are the names of the surname and married name of the lady in question. Sandy. Patryka Tachick wrote: > Hi, Rose- > You have probably gotten many answers to your inquiry but I thought I would > answer you in case you hadn't. > > The "y" means simply "and" in Spanish and the compound names come from the > tradition of children taking the name of their Father and Mother. Many > times as generations passed, the compound name became "fixed"......like my > Durán y Cháves surname........at one time there was a man named Durán who > married a woman named Cháves and their children took on the combination. > > This is not a steadfast rule, of course....that would be too easy. I still > find names listed by Cháves or Durán y Cháves. Many, many occasions occur > where the female children took the name of their mother.......I had a woman > named María Lopes who married my Teodoro Durán and I had a second wife name > Ana María Manuela Lucero..........they turned out to be the same woman. She > occasionally used her mother's surname, Lopes as her own.....and sometimes > she is found using her Father's surname, Lucero. Crazy, but go with it and > you will find your ancestors. > > Teofilo and Teofila are fairly common first names. Where is your Teofila > Sánches y Cháves located and about what time period?? I have access to the > AASF microfilms at the Special Collections Library in Albuquerque. > > Patryka (Cháves) Tachick > gtachick@msn.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RoseE" <RAbeyta@webtv.net> > To: <NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:51 PM > Subject: [NEW-MEXICO] Help with Surname! > > > Has anyone ever heard of the name: > > Teofila Sanchez y Chavez > > The name of Teofila is rare as I cannot find any info on it..Is there a > > another name that would be a nick-name for this ? > > Can someone explain what the" y" means?..and why there are two > > surnames?..which do I follow as being a maiden name?.. > > This is the name that was found in a marriage to my > > Grandfather..Desiderio ABEYTA.. > > I was told he married Francisquita Sanchez. > > This is the only marriage that was found at the FHC on this > > microfilm..(which i ordered the Microfilm of marriages from > > Albuq.Bernilillo Co.NM..years=1900-1910) > > According to the microfilm.. > > ---------------------------- > > Desiderio ABEYTA age 27 Albuq. > > Teofila Sanchez y Chavez 19 Albuq. > > 26 November 1904 > > P.Tommasini Pastor S.H.CH. > > --------------------------- > > The dates are correct for my grandfather but her name is not..also...His > > first born Clemente ABEYTA was born 13 August 1905. > > Which is about right too..9 months after the marriage...So I believe she > > could be my grandmother.. > > Can someone help me on this mystery?.. > > > > Rose in NC > > > > http://community-2.webtv.net/RAbeyta/MaternalABEYTALine/ > > > > > > ==== NEW-MEXICO Mailing List ==== > > NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com > > LIST ADM. Patricia L. Hall > > phhgene@earthlink.net > > > > ============================== > > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ==== NEW-MEXICO Mailing List ==== > NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com > LIST ADM. Patricia L. Hall > phhgene@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Since it was not a law until 1914 to register birth, many did not send this info in until later, thus delayed records. phhgene@earthlink.net > > > > ============================== > >

Hi, Rose- You have probably gotten many answers to your inquiry but I thought I would answer you in case you hadn't. The "y" means simply "and" in Spanish and the compound names come from the tradition of children taking the name of their Father and Mother. Many times as generations passed, the compound name became "fixed"......like my Durán y Cháves surname........at one time there was a man named Durán who married a woman named Cháves and their children took on the combination. This is not a steadfast rule, of course....that would be too easy. I still find names listed by Cháves or Durán y Cháves. Many, many occasions occur where the female children took the name of their mother.......I had a woman named María Lopes who married my Teodoro Durán and I had a second wife name Ana María Manuela Lucero..........they turned out to be the same woman. She occasionally used her mother's surname, Lopes as her own.....and sometimes she is found using her Father's surname, Lucero. Crazy, but go with it and you will find your ancestors. Teofilo and Teofila are fairly common first names. Where is your Teofila Sánches y Cháves located and about what time period?? I have access to the AASF microfilms at the Special Collections Library in Albuquerque. Patryka (Cháves) Tachick gtachick@msn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "RoseE" <RAbeyta@webtv.net> To: <NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:51 PM Subject: [NEW-MEXICO] Help with Surname! > Has anyone ever heard of the name: > Teofila Sanchez y Chavez > The name of Teofila is rare as I cannot find any info on it..Is there a > another name that would be a nick-name for this ? > Can someone explain what the" y" means?..and why there are two > surnames?..which do I follow as being a maiden name?.. > This is the name that was found in a marriage to my > Grandfather..Desiderio ABEYTA.. > I was told he married Francisquita Sanchez. > This is the only marriage that was found at the FHC on this > microfilm..(which i ordered the Microfilm of marriages from > Albuq.Bernilillo Co.NM..years=1900-1910) > According to the microfilm.. > ---------------------------- > Desiderio ABEYTA age 27 Albuq. > Teofila Sanchez y Chavez 19 Albuq. > 26 November 1904 > P.Tommasini Pastor S.H.CH. > --------------------------- > The dates are correct for my grandfather but her name is not..also...His > first born Clemente ABEYTA was born 13 August 1905. > Which is about right too..9 months after the marriage...So I believe she > could be my grandmother.. > Can someone help me on this mystery?.. > > Rose in NC > > http://community-2.webtv.net/RAbeyta/MaternalABEYTALine/ > > > ==== NEW-MEXICO Mailing List ==== > NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com > LIST ADM. Patricia L. Hall > phhgene@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

Hi... Can anyone do a lookup for me in Las Vegas, NM? That would be San Miguel County. I am looking for records for my cousin, Frances Romero, born 8/19/32. Her mother's name was Sofia Romero. There may also be baptismal records at the Catholic Church in Las Vegas, either Our Lady of Sorrows or Immaculate Conception. I am specifically searching for the names of her godparents and her father's name. If anybody can help, I would be grateful! Thanks, Lucy

Has anyone ever heard of the name: Teofila Sanchez y Chavez The name of Teofila is rare as I cannot find any info on it..Is there a another name that would be a nick-name for this ? Can someone explain what the" y" means?..and why there are two surnames?..which do I follow as being a maiden name?.. This is the name that was found in a marriage to my Grandfather..Desiderio ABEYTA.. I was told he married Francisquita Sanchez. This is the only marriage that was found at the FHC on this microfilm..(which i ordered the Microfilm of marriages from Albuq.Bernilillo Co.NM..years=1900-1910) According to the microfilm.. ---------------------------- Desiderio ABEYTA age 27 Albuq. Teofila Sanchez y Chavez 19 Albuq. 26 November 1904 P.Tommasini Pastor S.H.CH. --------------------------- The dates are correct for my grandfather but her name is not..also...His first born Clemente ABEYTA was born 13 August 1905. Which is about right too..9 months after the marriage...So I believe she could be my grandmother.. Can someone help me on this mystery?.. Rose in NC http://community-2.webtv.net/RAbeyta/MaternalABEYTALine/

Hello List: I would like to thank every one who responded to my request for information regarding vital statistics in NM circa 1903. It looks like I'm off to the LDS FHL in the next day or two. Thank you everyone! Liz Freeman Could someone on the list advise me regarding a question on vital statistics for NM. Has anyone on the list had any success in obtaining a death certificate for individuals who died in early 1900s? How long should I expect to wait for a response once a request is submitted?

One more tip, Liz, just in case you aren't already a regular at the FHL. You can look up film numbers online. Here's the link to the Library Catalog online: http://familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp I've found that it's very time saving to be able to look up my films from the convenience of home, as my library time is somewhat limited. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth E. Freeman <eeffree@flash.net> To: <NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: [NEW-MEXICO] Re: QUESTION RE VITAL STATISTICS > Hello List: > > I would like to thank every one who responded to my request for information regarding vital statistics in NM circa 1903. > > It looks like I'm off to the LDS FHL in the next day or two. > > Thank you everyone! > > Liz Freeman > > Could someone on the list advise me regarding a question on vital statistics for NM. > > Has anyone on the list had any success in obtaining a death certificate for individuals who died in early 1900s? How long should I expect to wait for a response once a request is submitted? > > > ==== NEW-MEXICO Mailing List ==== > NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com > LIST ADM. Patricia L. Hall > phhgene@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > >

Hi, I had noted that the index to the New Mexico death certificates at the LDS Family History Library read: Index A-S ca 1899-1930 Film 1991645 Index T-Z 1889-1930 Index A-Z 1931-1940 Film 1991646 Only the city of Albuquerque is shown with death records as early as 1889. Valencia County starts in 1899; McKinley in 1904; then a number of counties in 1907. Death records for Lincoln county are listed as starting 1910. I actually do not recall seeing a record prior to 1920 in the index. The pre 1920 records are on ten rolls of film- so there must be some there. Jim Scofield

Hello: Could someone on the list advise me regarding a question on vital statistics for NM. I have an individual who is supposed to have died in January 1903 in NM, place unknown, but possibly Lincoln County. I know in some states prior to statehood, deaths were recorded in the county where the person died (if the death was recorded at all). In passing through Lincoln County recently, the county clerk advised me that if they had any death records they would have been forwarded to the Bureau of Vital Statistics for NM some years ago. Has anyone on the list had any success in obtaining a death certificate for individuals who died in early 1900s? How long should I expect to wait for a response once a request is submitted? Any information appreciated. Liz Freeman

Elizabeth E. Freeman <eeffree@flash.net> wrote Tuesday, September 12, 2000 2:59 PM << .. individual who is supposed to have died in January 1903 in NM, place unknown, but possibly Lincoln County. .... Has anyone on the list had any success in obtaining a death certificate for individuals who died in early 1900s? How long should I expect to wait for a response once a request is submitted? >> I sent the seven dollars into the vital records department and received back an answer in a month. Because I had NOT given the relationship, they were returning my check. (This had been for the 4 great-grandfather of my grand-son.) I subsequently obtained the index to the death certificates at my local Family History Center. Index A-S ca 1899-1930 Film 1991645 Index T-Z 1889-1930 Index A-Z 1931-1940 Film 1991646 I found two individuals of interest to me and obtained the appropriate film with the death certificates. Unfortunately, looking at the index, there seem to be very few people listed who died prior to 1920. A number of people of interest to me, who died in the given time span, are not listed in the index. I have had the index returned to Salt Lake City. Jim Scofield Researching a number of individuals on San Miguel County.

Elizabeth~ While I don't have personal experience ordering pre-1900 death rec. from NM Vital Statistics, I'd thought I'd share the following info from my files: NM Vital Statistics has death records from 1920 to date, and "delayed" records from 1880. I'm not exactly sure what "delayed" records are, but I believe these may be records filed with the state sometime after the event, in order to establish date of demise for some other purpose. I suppose you've already tried checking church records? Also, there was a gentleman, Jim Scoefield, who was doing lookups for this list in the 1899-1928 Vital Records Death Index for state of NM back in July. He may not have the microfilm on loan any longer, but I do know the microfilm is #1991645 and it can be ordered for viewing at any local LDS Family History Center. Best wishes in your search. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth E. Freeman <eeffree@flash.net> To: <NEW-MEXICO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: [NEW-MEXICO] QUESTION RE VITAL STATISTICS

Greetings, I have the following detailed genealogical biographies on my site: http://www.geocities.com/geojenk They are located in my "All Things McKeesport" Section. These families had a significant impact on the W. Pa. area. They are from all over plus they spread all over the USA. These are not in my family, just a resource! AUGUSTIN, BALL, BRENNAN, BURKMAN, BUTLER, DENSMORE, DIEHL, DORLEMAN, DUNBAR, EDGAR, ENGLEHARDT, FLANAGAN, GEPHARDT, GORHAM, HISSRICH, HOLOSNYAY, JONES, KING, KNOX, KOUGHAN, LEARD, LIPPERT, HERBEL, ADAMS, BOYLE, KENNEDY, LONGMORE, LOVETT, MAURHOFF, MAYER, MCCOMBS, MCGREEVY, MCWILLIAMS, MORGAN, MORRIS, PORTER, ROSE, ROTHRAUF, SHERWIN, SPEER, SPILLMAN, WAGNER, WALKER, WHITE, WIGMAN Plus over 200 more. Blessings, George "DaPicMoocher" Jenkins

Still looking for Mrs. Annie THOMAS who put her daughter, Gracie, up for adoption in Tarrant co. TX.in 1884 when she was about 4 y.o. Gracie told my father she was Indian. But did not know from where. I have the original adoption papers but no mention of the father just the adoptive parents who were Dick and Nannie MaTHEWS also known as david s. MCHERD and Nancy SHAWVER. ANY info greatly appreciated. Brigitte Daguerre

Am seeking to find more information on Robert P. Carper b 1899 in ?, NM who married ? Risch and had at least 4 children, Warren, Sue, Dolores and Lois. Lois and Warren were born in California, early 1900's. Robert P. Carper remarried Marion B. Herrington/Evans and lived in Los Angeles County. Roberts parents were Joseph Carper and Elizabeth Hunt, both from Virginia, according to Robert's death certificate. The above family has been pieced together from obituaries, death certificates and the on-line CADI and CABI. Would appreciate any help/information anyone can offer. Thanks, Diane

By the looks of the website shown on the message about the Abeyta's buried in Albuquerque, I think you are the same person who sent me a request for info in January and again in February. Every reply I sent to the email address provided was returned as not accepted by the user. If you still want me to check into the cemetery records, send me a good address to contact you and I will see what I can dig up. Dee dee_tobin@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.