From: Tim Pierce <[email protected]> Old-To: [email protected] Subject: About Palladium's Sponsorship Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Resent-Message-ID: <"TYAMp.A.zzC.WH-U1"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/6289 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-UIDL: fff917d4fff9e6e00baa7ef64bd36acc Hi, Folks -- I think a few apologies are in order. The situation with the Palladium sponsorship has been very tricky. Palladium wanted to keep the partnership a surprise until they could make a formal announcement at this week's NGS conference. So Brian was under a non-disclosure agreement to keep it under wraps until almost the very last minute. He *couldn't* tell anyone. Before he left for Denver, Brian asked me to announce the sponsorship to [email protected], so that the listowners wouldn't be kept out of the loop. Well, you probably noticed I didn't do that. Between setting up the Palladium banners, blocking attempted spam attacks, and nursing sick listservers back to health, I just forgot that you all had to be notified. So it's my fault that the listowners got taken by surprise. I'm awfully sorry about that -- as someone observed, I'm a hacker, not a communications director. Keeping *people* informed isn't my specialty. :-) So, down to the nitty gritty: WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO ROOTSWEB LISTOWNERS? ------------------------------------------- Here's the letter from Brian that I should have posted to listowners on the day of the announcement. This is a good summary of the meaning of the sponsorship and its immediate impact on listowners. Dear RootsWeb Community, On 1 April 1998, Palladium Interactive reinforced the contributions of thousands of individual genealogists by becoming the sole commercial sponsor of the oldest and largest Internet genealogical resource: the RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative. An *extremely* important aspect of the sponsorship is that Palladium's commitment to RootsWeb goes far beyond simple financial support: Palladium and RootsWeb will work together to develop an exciting new generation of tools linking individual genealogists' lineage databases to the myriad data resources on the Internet. Palladium Interactive is the creator of the Ultimate Family Tree software for genealogists, the only genealogical software that can be used by novices but provides all the capabilities that experienced genealogists need. UFT itself has a distinguished lineage, being descended the widely-acclaimed Roots III and Roots IV software packages that defined professional-grade genealogical software more than a decade ago. Rootsweb also traces its origins back more than a decade to the founding of the ROOTS-L mailing list and the Roots Surname List query system. Now with more than 300,000 users, RootsWeb currently hosts more than 2,500 genealogical Websites and more than 3,100 mailing lists dedicated to surname and locality research. The hosted Websites include: * the Roots Surname List, which now includes 404,000 submissions from 55,000 genealogists * 40 of the 50 USGenWeb state pages and a large majority of the 3,100 county pages * the USGenWebArchives with hundreds of megabytes of searchable data * and hundreds of other resources Besides ROOTS-L, RootsWeb also hosts 3,100+ other mailing lists dedicated to the discussion of specific surnames, ethnic groups, and geographic localities. RootsWeb's Web servers handle 1,000,000+ Web "hits" each day, and RootsWeb's list servers allow genealogists to exchange 3,000,000+ pieces of e-mail each day. While RootsWeb has historically been supported by thousands of individual contributors and while individual contributions will remain RootsWeb's mainstay, Palladium's contribution provides RootsWeb with the ability to substantially increase the range of resources freely available to Internet genealogists. For example, the first two months of Palladium's sponsorship have allowed us to add: * A new search engine server, which has immediately made the equivalent of 500,000 new pages of data searchable by Internet genealogists and which will allow us to upload another 4,000,000 pages in the near future. * A new high-capacity router, that will increase from 2,000 to 5,000 the number of genealogists who can simultaneously be use RootsWeb. * A new mailing list archive server, which will enable genealogists to conveniently scan the archived posts of our 3,100 mailing using their Web browsers. In addition to the immediate, tangible benefits of Palladium's sponsorship, RootsWeb believes that the joint Palladium-RootsWeb software development projects will provide much, much greater benefits to the genealogical community. Over time we expect to see the seamless integration of Ultimate Family Tree with the burgeoning genealogical resources on the Internet, allowing even novice users to easily find Internet Websites, mailing lists, and databases where they can extend and refine their understanding of their family's history. On behalf of the million members of the Internet genealogical community, RootsWeb thanks Palladium for their contributions to the near-term needs and long-term advancement of our community. Sincerely, Dr. Brian Leverich So there's the official story. As to some of the concerns that have begun to float around: WILL MANDATORY FEES BE IMPOSED ON LIST SUBSCRIBERS? --------------------------------------------------- No. RootsWeb is free: it is a resource provided free of charge to the general genealogical community. Period. Some people have expressed worry about the phrase ``services at minimal cost'' in Brian's letter. Minimal means zero: we will not charge across-the-board fees to subscribe to mailing lists or run archive searches. The reason that for emphasizing ``minimal cost'' rather than ``no cost'' is to remind people that running RootsWeb does cost real money, and we want to encourage as many people as possible to become RootsWeb Members and Sponsors. DOES THIS MEAN THAT UFT OWNS MY MAILING LIST OR MY DATA? -------------------------------------------------------- No. Absolutely not. Palladium's sponsorship has *no* effect whatever on RootsWeb's relationship with the listowners or list subscribers. The terms of the sponsorship are limited to underwriting the cost of RootsWeb operating expenses, and funding new research projects. There is no way that RootsWeb would enter into a commercial partnership that would involve taking away your rights as genealogists, listowners and RootsWeb sponsors. RootsWeb's chief source of funding is still from individual subscriptions. That's how Brian and Karen prefer things: it means keeping people our highest priority, and it's the best way to avoid compromising your interests in favor of some nameless corporate machine. The goal here is to augment our main financial support with a healthy partnership to produce some really powerful genealogical tools. Regards, Tim Pierce RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative volunteer sysadmin and general hacker

Just wanted to update you all on my page. http://www.famiyworkings.com It now has more than 260 ancestor queries, more than 600 subcatagorized links including by surname, more than 200 obituary listings, 7 cemeteries, 24 volunteer researcher listing, a bulletin board to post your questions on, and more. Also, cooming hopefully this week will be submitted gedcoms and a search engine. All of the above listed you can also submit to have added to the site. Please check it out! -Shana Family Workings Genealogy

I have updated the Rettke Family Tree Homepage. Come on over to check out the newly added information as well as the recently added pictures. Some surnames which on in this tree: Lehmann, Lantow, Sawyer, Trogg, Rupert, LaPerriere, Jankowski, Kunze, Cummings, Brummerstedt, Boise, Rembis, Pudas, Katerndahl, Burgess and many more. Come on over and take a look. Jamie Rettke Rettke Family Tree - http://members.aol.com/FamlyStuf/rettke.html Ferdinand Adolph Rettke - http://members.aol.com/FamlyStuf/story.html

To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/6292 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-UIDL: 9fa950bba3384d9304f5dd36165b4b9f >From ROOTS COOPERATIVE This is going to be a kinda quick answer, because Karen and I wound up going to the NGS Conference to be with Palladium at the announcement. We aren't really on The Net right now and communicating is kinda a mess. The reason why we didn't warn everybody this was coming was because K & I were caught unprepared by Palladium's request that we join them at NGS and we wound up fully committed getting the new search engine online and the other servers prepped before we left. Like no time even for sleep for a few days. ): > I see in the press release below that Rootsweb has granted Palladium *sole > commercial sponsor*. I am hoping that this is simply because they are the > first, and won't be 'the' only sponsor. Palladium is literally the *sole* commercial sponsor we will accept. We have received numerous proposals in the past, but by far we felt the support Palladium offered was in the best interest of the volunteer community. The folks at Palladium are truly wonderful to work with. An *extremely* important point is that the support provided by Palladium, while substantial, is still less than the support provided by individual Members, Sponsors, and Donors. In *no* way does the sponsorship by Palladium change the way that RootsWeb will operate. Except we'll have more resources. For example, we now have a search engine server big enough to reindex your archives in part because of Palladium's support. The reason why we'll be able to add two new T1s and a third list server is because of Palladium's generosity. > The press release states below that > ">Palladium will build an Internet "spider" and search tool specifically for > >genealogists, with design and programming assistance from RootsWeb. > >Palladium will also integrate tools into its genealogy products that give > >users easy > >access to RootsWeb web sites and other related subject matter." > > This worries me more than the sponsorship. Does this search tool that > Palladium will build mean that we will have to 'purchase' their software to > use our own archives?? Note, Palladium states that it will integrate this > into 'its genealogy products'. Are these products going to be free for all > those who subscribe to Rootsweb, or cost?? Usually when a company makes a > product, they expect payment in return for the use of that said product. The spider/indexer/search engine will be freely available to everyone, like almost everything else at RootsWeb. If you happen to use the UFT software, you may be able to do some cool things like click on an individual in your database and automatically use the search engine, but you can do the same thing manually -- you just have type in your query yourself, like you currently have to do with Altavista or HotBot. > Even if Rootsweb is not selling the our lists' data, if they are granting > to Palladium the *exclusive commercial right* to sell PALLADIUM'S software > in order to *access the data* housed in the Rootsweb Archives, webpages, > etc., this grant may amount to the same thing --- costs to our lists, > listmanagers, and subscribers. I *hate* repeating myself, and I've made this remark at least a dozen times. Not only does RootsWeb promise not to sell the list archives of independent listowners, we *can't* sell them. Untangling the copyright issues is a mess nobody would want to have to deal with. I don't know quite how to respond to the rest of the paragraph, except to say that nothing at all has changed. Listowners still control whether their lists will be archived, and archives will be freely available as always. > I would really appreciate the 'true' scoop here. The silence is rather > ominous. I know other listmanagers (via private e-mail) and Rootsweb web > site managers are also questioning. The press release was a short notice, > but the 'telling' is in the detail. The true scoop is that Palladium thinks RootsWeb is helping encourage more folks to become genealogists. So, both because they're good people who want to support the volunteers and because it makes good business sense for them to help us expand the hobby, they're doing the same thing most of us have done: joined the Cooperative and put up some money so all of us can enjoy more mailing lists, more Websites, and better archive search engines. Cheers, B.

*********************************************************************** ~*~*~*~ CELEBRATION ~*~*~*~ On May 15, 1998; Genealogists from all over the world will gather to celebrate the first birthday of the International Internet Genealogical Society. Please come to our home at http://www.iigs.org to find out how you can join our celebration. There will be many free offers available designed specifically for the genealogist in your family. The celebration will begin noon GMT 14 May to noon 16 May GMT IIGS Birthday Bash Information http://www.iigs.org/hear_ye.htm Rootsweb Server irc.iigs.org or irc.rootsweb.com port 6667 or 7000 ************************************************************************ Pam Middleton-Lee Co-Team Leader Public Relations IIGS http://www.iigs.org

Wanted to let everyone know about a new channel for chat that has started for anyone interested in research in Robertson Co., Tennessee. The channel is #robertson_county and it is on dalnet. The following url should help you in getting everything you will need to chat on mIRC. http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/mIRCing.htm Also for anyone that has a site and that is addicted to genealogy: http://members.xoom.com/present/addicted/ Have fun and enjoy, Jeffery -- Please come by for a visit, take your shoes off, pull up a chair and have a cup of coffee or cola or ice tea. "The Present Meets The Past" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/ Please sign our guestbook. "Quirky Surnames" http://members.xoom.com/present/ "The Park/e/s Family Research Page" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/park/ "The Car(e)y Family Research Page" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/cary/

The Idaho Genealogical Society announces their new webpages are now up on a new site. Currently, the society, chartered in 1958, is offering lookups, research, memberships, Pioneer and Oregon Trail Certificates and a list of IGS publications. Please visit us at: www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/4621 email: [email protected]

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I have posted my Burgess Line on my new genealogy page. The page is called "It's All Relative." Just click on the "Burgess" name, and the link will take you to my Burgess line. http://www.geocities.com/~ndburgess Thanks, Nicole [email protected]

For any and everyone that is addicted to genealogy. Have a look and place the ribbon on your site. http://members.xoom.com/present/addicted/ Enjoy, Jeffery -- Please come by for a visit, take your shoes off, pull up a chair and have a cup of coffee or cola or ice tea. "The Present Meets The Past" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/ Please sign our guestbook. "Quirky Surnames" http://members.xoom.com/present/ "The Park/e/s Family Research Page" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/park/ "The Car(e)y Family Research Page" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/cary/

Can someone tell me why I this everytime i post to New Gen URL? The posting GETS there because i get responses to them. Date: 06 May 1998 18:53:18 GMT From: "Postmaster" <[email protected]> Subject: DISTRIBUTION STATUS To: [email protected] Comment: MEMO 05.06.98 18.53 UNIX.PSCOBB DISTRIBUTION STATUS INFORMATION 05/06/98 18:53:29 ======================================================================= DISTRIBUTION ID: UNIX.PSCOBB.3124 SUBJECT : .NEW-GEN-URL-L. IRC.s #GenealogyForum DATE SENT : 05/06/98 TIME SENT: 18:53:00 ======================================================================= YOUR MAIL WAS NOT DELIVERED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON: SNADS STATUS : 0301 EXPLANATION : Ambiguous OR name or recipient unknown on target system ======================================================================= RECIPIENT : CCMAIL.MOOREJ1 LAST NAME : FIRST NAME : MIDDLE INITIAL : NATIVE NAME : DDA : tex^mom >From #GenealogyForum IRC Channel on Afternet: server irc.afternet.org "Looking for YOUR Ancestors?" Need Simple instructions for joining us? Check our Webpage to Find 'em! Wednesday, May 6- TENNESSEE ! 8PM Eastern USE We have topical discussions three evening a week! DATES - TIMES - TOPICS ARE LISTED ON THE WEBPAGE http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/ email: [email protected]

If you have not yet taken advantage of using IRC (Internet Relay Chat) to help with your research, you are missing out on a GREAT resource! The Genealogy Channels on IRC are the Genealogy Societies of the CyberWorld. We share resources, do lookups for each other, help each other with our webpages, recommend helpful websites and have a wonderful time doing it! Most active time period is from 8 PM to 12 Eastern Time, USA We designed our website with the NEW IRCer in mind. You will find MUCH to help you get started! The instructions for Joining IRC have been made even more simple, if you have tried to join before without success, TRY AGAIN! The #GenealogyForum webpage has these links to help you. IMPORTANT NEWS FLASH! Late Breaking Genealogy News with links to Logs from recent meetings with Cyndi Howells of Cyndi's Sites; Paul Burchfield, Tech Support for Family Tree Maker; and Dick Eastman, Online Genealogy Newsletter. YOUR IRC EXPERIENCE What It Can and Can't Do for You: If you wonder what 'chatting' is all about, be sure to read this page. HOW TO JOIN IRC Step by Step Instructions: on where and how to download the IRC software Including AOL and WebTV HOW TO USE MIRC Step by Step Instructions: After you are connected to IRC you will find easy setup instructions for many great features of MIRC LOOK FOR YOUR ANCESTORS Searchable Index of Surnames of Our Guests (over 120 of our guests have their surnames posted here) OUR BRICKWALL ANCESTORS We Need !!HELP!! on These (NEW PAGE!!! We are posting our MOST elusive Ancestors here!) LOOKUPS on #GENEALOGY FORUM Sharing Our Resources: A guide to the people to watch for in our channel with the resource you need access to. GENEALOGY FOR KIDS 9 TO 90 How to Begin to Grow Your Tree: Link to Present^'s page giving basic start up instructions. How to Write Your Family History: Link to Dorian's page giving tips on writing about your ancestors. #GENEALOGYFORUM Announcements: We have topical meetings on Monday, Wednesday, and either Friday evening or Saturday Daytime depending on the area of the topic. Tonites topic is TENNESSEE. OUR AGENDA: it is our hope in #GenealogyForum to be a support group to you in your quest for genealogical answers,to help where we can and refer you to others if we can't. We are strickly amateurs but very serious about our genealogy; rowdy, sometimes, in our playtime; hopefully, companionable in the silences that sometimes occur when everyone is surfing the web, but always willing to stop the activities in progress to help if we can. Most of us have a doorbell installed on the channel door, just give us a few seconds to close what we are doing to respond. OTHER GENEALOGY CHANNELS ON IRC Their Servers and Their Webpages: If you know of a Channel or Channel page not listed on this page please send the information to: [email protected] http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/ tex^mom >From #GenealogyForum IRC Channel on Afternet: server irc.afternet.org "Looking for YOUR Ancestors?" Need Simple instructions for joining us? Check our Webpage to Find 'em! Wednesday, May 6- TENNESSEE ! 8PM Eastern USE We have topical discussions three evening a week! DATES - TIMES - TOPICS ARE LISTED ON THE WEBPAGE http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/ email: [email protected]

Folks, Once fortunecity placed their banner ads on all the pages it didn't look proper so I decided to move them to xoom. I wouldn't have minded if they were on the main pages but they placed them on the query pages as well as the main pages. It really didn't look right with them on the query pages. Please note this is the new url: http://members.xoom.com/present/ Also have added some pedigree charts so perhaps it will be easier to follow how I might be related. Wanted to get them up as soon as possible so they are not cross linked with the data that is on site. Will eventually get around to adding them as time permits. Thanks and if you have linked or bookmarked the Quirky Surnames page you will need to correct the url. Thanks, Jeffery -- Please come by for a visit, take your shoes off, pull up a chair and have a cup of coffee or cola or ice tea. "The Present Meets The Past" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/ Please sign our guestbook. "Quirky Surnames" http://members.xoom.com/present/ "The Park/e/s Family Research Page" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/park/ "The Car(e)y Family Research Page" http://home.earthlink.net/~howardorjeff/cary/

This is site for All genealogist -Resources - Links Add a Query http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/7951/ Alabama Death index -Add your Alabama Obit's http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/7951/alabamaindex.html Add your surnames http://venus.beseen.com/boardroom/i/17218/

This is a great site if you are researching Orr,Turney,Moore,King,Johnson,Davis,Johnson Surnames. The site has other genealogy interest and resources. check it out: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/2427/

At the 1998 Annual Meeting of the Membership on May 5, the East Tennessee Historical Society presented Awards of Excellence in several categories. Most notably, the Ramsey Award for Lifetime Achievement, was presented to Virginia Whisman Niceley for her lifelong contributions on behalf of East Tennessee history at the Ramsey House Plantation. Awards were presented in the following categories: 1. Ramsey Award for Lifetime Achievement 2. The McClung Award (presented to the author of the best article published in the Journal of East Tennessee History) 3. Award of Distinction 4. Teaching Excellence Award 5. History in the Media 6. Distinguished Service Award 7. Research Excellence Award 8. ETHS Volunteer Service Award 9. ETHS Museum Volunteer Service Award 10. ETHS Affiliate Society of the Year Award (a new award given in 1998 for the first time) Preliminary information about the award winners (with updated information to follow) can be found on the ETHS web pages at http://www.korrnet.org/eths/ Congratulations to all 1998 winners and thanks to everyone who submitted nominations in the categories open to public nomination. Sincerely, Shane S. Rhyne, Public Relations Coodinator East Tennessee Historical Society P.O. Box 1629, Knoxville TN 37901-1629 [email protected] http://www.korrnet.org/eths/ ***Please note ETHS cannot respond to online requests for research assistance at this time. For a listing of professional researchers in this area, send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to ETHS at the address in the signature above.***

A new Web Page, "In Honor of Lt. Col. Henry "Hal" Dixon, North Carolina Line, Continental Army. Revolutionary War Hero, died 17 July 1782, of wounds received on the battlefield." This website is by Scott K. Williams, [email protected] , a gggg grandson of Lt.Col.Henry Dixon. http://members.tripod.com/~Christian_Rebel/dixon.htm If anyone has any information on where he may be buried, your help would be appreciated! Please respond to, Scott Williams [email protected] OR James Allen Smith, [email protected] Also is a gggg grandson of Lt. Col. Henry Dixon. Thank you! Barb Johnson [email protected]

Hi. I just wanted to share and update you on my site ,because, after 4 months of operation, it is becoming a great tool for researchers! Family Tree Climbers http://www.familytreeclimbers.com (if using aol you might have to use http://www.familytreeclimbers.com/other.shtml) now has over 1,600 surname queries,over 1,500 links to surname and other genealogy pages, over 3,500 obituaries and 3,500 + surnames contained in donated GED-COMS. You can send a postcard to a friend, join our newsletter mail list, add your query or link or just look around. We also have many research volunteers to help you in your search and a forum and chat room to post questions and talk to other researchers. We also have a new Book Store for you! Come on by and visit us as soon as you can. Maybe you will find the missing link you are looking for!

The Lafayette Co MSGenWeb Project site has been updated. Stop by to see the new Query, Biography, and Obituary forums. You might just find that family member you've been searching for. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslafaye Thanks! Shirley Scott -- Preferred E-mail: [email protected] Genealogy WebSite: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html Coordinator, Lafayette Co MSGenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslafaye Listowner: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Rootsweb Sponsor! _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]