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    1. [NE Railroads] Problems with RR Tracks - hot box
    2. Ray Sears
    3. Here in Oklahoma we have a lot of brush fires caused by train "hot-boxes." I imagine that caused fires in New England too, but of course there is less rain here (33 inches vs 42 inches). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_box The tracks here are somewhat of an eyesore because the railroad sprays a vegetation killer (nuclear Round-up or some such) about 10 feet out from either side of the tracks to reduce fuel sources. I don't think anything can live in that kill zone. Berkshire Hathaway's - Burlington Northern runs everything out here. Fires have been known to burn bridge trusses weakening them enough to cause de-railments. http://www.dbiservices.com/rr/page2.asp Ray Sears ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wright" <pontegwatrail@netzero.net> To: <new-england-railroads@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [NE Railroads] Problems with RR Tracks > Hi Betty, > > I'm a past Deputy Fire Chief of a local volunteer fire dept., and a past > Deputy Forest Fire Warden for my town. > > There is a railroad that runs through were I live (the New York to > Montreal line) and over the years we've have been fires along the track. > The cause is the train's engine. There are screens in the exhaust smoke > stack to stop any hot sparks from flying out and starting a brush fire > along the tracks. When these screens get old holes become worn in them, > and the sparks fly out. When it's hot, dry, and windy, fires flare up. > > Yes, in theory, the old coal fired steam engines would have been more > prone to emitting sparks as they had live fire, but they had the same > screens in the smoke stack. However, in the old days with the steam > trains, they kept much, much better care of the tracks and kept the grass > and brush cut back. The tracks were very good looking and clean (according > to old photos I've seen). So, the fires along the tracks may not have > been worse back then; they were probably little spot fires if anything. I > feel the fires are worse these days as we have so much more heavy brush > along the tracks (not at all well cared for), which a small spot fire will > turn into a roaring brush fire, and if the wind is just right it will > travel and burn acres and acres of land. > > > Charlie > > North Walpole, NH (across from Bellows Falls, VT - the railroad's central > hub in the day) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty" <bbffrrpp@comcast.net> > To: <New-England-Railroads@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:37 PM > Subject: [NE Railroads] Problems with RR Tracks > > >> Hello, >> >> I've been busy and am catching with the on-line news for the "Bangor >> Daily >> News" (Maine). This isn't exactly about the history of trains, train >> travel, and tracks in New England. But, it could be. If debris >> alongside train tracks can catch on fire during our current years, it >> probably could have happened in all of train-travel history. >> >> http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/144563.html?utm_medium=email&utm_campa ign=15d894c416-RSS_MORNINGUPDATE_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_source=BDN+News+Updates >> >> >> Betty (near Lowell, MA) >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> NEW ENGLAND RAILROADS MAILING LIST >> >> LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history >> information pertaining to the New England railroads and the people who >> built or operated them. >> >> Contact the List Admin at new-england-railroads-admin@rootsweb.com, or to >> search the list archives or find other useful information to help you use >> the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list >> information page online: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Occupations/NEW-ENGLAND-RAILR OADS.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-ENGLAND-RAILROADS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- NEW ENGLAND RAILROADS MAILING LIST LIST TOPIC: The discussion and research of genealogy or history information pertaining to the New England railroads and the people who built or operated them. Contact the List Admin at new-england-railroads-admin@rootsweb.com, or to search the list archives or find other useful information to help you use the list more effectively, please click on the following link to the list information page online: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Occupations/NEW-ENGLAND-RAILR OADS.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ENGLAND-RAILROADS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/05/2010 02:11:18
    1. Re: [NE Railroads] Problems with RR Tracks - hot box
    2. bob gillis
    3. On 6/5/2010 9:11 AM, Ray Sears wrote: > Here in Oklahoma we have a lot of brush fires caused by train "hot-boxes." > I imagine that caused fires in New England too, but of course there is less > rain here (33 inches vs 42 inches). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_box This article while correct is very much out of date. Friction journal boxes were outlawed from interchange service many yeas ago. I did not see anything in the article that suggested that the fires were cased by hot boxes. Hot boxes today are very infrequent since the changeover to roller bearing journals More likely they were caused by sparks from the diesel engines. > > The tracks here are somewhat of an eyesore because the railroad sprays a > vegetation killer (nuclear Round-up or some such) about 10 feet out from > either side of the tracks to reduce fuel sources. I don't think anything > can live in that kill zone. Berkshire Hathaway's - Burlington Northern runs > everything out here. Fires have been known to burn bridge trusses weakening > them enough to cause de-railments. The remaining plant matter is probably more flammable than the living plants. > > http://www.dbiservices.com/rr/page2.asp bob gillis

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