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    1. [NE Railroads] Link to search
    2. Try the following link to see if it can assist you an any search of railroads in SE Mass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Colony_Railroad

    11/02/2015 11:14:03
    1. [NE Railroads] Lists for adoption 3
    2. Do to the fact that I have some dead mail list (not active since 2012 and before) and my lack of time to try to arouse them I am putting them up for adoption. I am writing to the lists BCC first so subscriber will have first choice to all the lists. If you are interested in adopting any please contact me at: fred@dittmar.net I will on the first of November turn any that have not been spoken for over to RW to be placed on the adoption list. Below is the list of mail lists: AHTA AR-GHOSTTOWNS BURNES CAN-AB-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-BE-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-MB-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-NB-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-NF-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-NT-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-NU-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-PEI-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-QC-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-SK-GHOSTTOWNS CAN-YT-GHOSTTOWNS CANADIAN-TRAIN-DISASTERS ITCHOCTA ITCHREEKN LA-CEMETERIES MA-GHOSTTOWNS ME-GHOSTTOWNS MERCHANT-MARINE NA-CHEROKEE-OKLAHOMA NEW-ENGLAND-RAILROAD NH-GHOSTTOWNS OK-101RANCH OK-CITY-DIRECTORIES OK-CSCPA OK-GEN-SOC for all Gen Societies in Oklahoma OK-LANDRUNS OK-LAWMEN-OUTLAWS OK-MIGRATION OK-MYSTERIES OK-RECORDS RI-GHOSTTOWNS RYDER TX-COTTON TX-FREEDMEN TX-HISTORY TX-MERCERCOL TX-MYSTERIES TX-SHARECROP TX-VETERANS TX-VINTAGEPHOTOS TXCASS TXCASS-CCGS TXCASTRO TXGRAYSO TXKLEBER TXLUBBOC TXTERRY VT-GHOSTTOWNS

    10/17/2015 11:12:00
    1. [NE Railroads] FW: Introduction - New Admin
    2. Dittmar, Frederick M.
    3. ________________________________ Greetings, I have been given the given the administration position for the New-England-Railroad mail list by David who has done a wonderful job for the past three years. There were 28 subscribers in 2009 and today there are 45 subscribers. In going through the archives I am happy to see the many active members posting great information and several names I know. I also have the MAPLYMOU, the MA-PLYMOUTH-CORDAGE-HS and the MA-GHOSTTOWNS mail lists. As an administrator I have only two rules - Help each other and Play well together in the sand box. I'm originally from Plymouth and remember the Big Steamers as a kid and the turn table as Plymouth was the end of the line. Today it's Kingston or the Cordage and the 'Bud Liners' go in both directions. I think the glamour is gone with these. To stand next to a Big Steamer is an experience I'll never forget. Feeling it vibrate and breath, listening to it huff, puff and hiss, looking up at the immense size and watching the drive wheels spin as it starts up and moves. I remember walking part of the rails picking up coal chunks for the stoves at my grandmothers. Kids today just don't know. If I can be of service to anyone at anytime please feel free to write me off line. Let's stay on Topic: "A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical or historical interest in the railroads of New England and/or the people associated with them." Does anyone have any history on the Plymouth - Middlebrough spur? I think it shut down before the 1940s. With regards, Fred Frederick M. Dittmar Diggin' Deep Genealogy Research Service PO Box 2601 Norman, Oklahoma 73070 Member -Oklahoma Genealogical Society - http://www.okgensoc.org<http://www.okgensoc.org/> Board Member - OKOLHA - http://www.okolha.net<http://www.okolha.net/> List Administrator for 45 mail lists. Down from 93 5 State-Ghost Towns / 11 Oklahoma- / 10/3 Family Surnames / 4 Miscellaneous / Canadian - 12 Province & Territories Ghost Towns lists. "Don't let life be a bunch of Thursdays strung together" Kevin Costner from Rumor Has It. 2005

    07/22/2012 04:04:48
    1. [NE Railroads] First Train to Arrive in Provincetown, MA
    2. Ray Sears
    3. Hi Betty- Boy I sure wish I could ride the trains. My grandfather used to ride the train down summers every Friday evening from South Station or Weymouth to the station in Yarmouth, Cape Cod in the 30s and 40s. My grandmother and Dad stayed in the summer house on Main St in East Dennis so they must have driven over to pick up Grandpa. I can imagine the scene Friday evening with the NY NH & H engine pulling in and the throngs of people getting off the train in Yarmouth with lots of others waiting to take them to their vacation spots. I have a post card from my Dad on the Cape to father in Weymouth where he writes, "Daddy, when you come this weekend can we get a dog?" Whenever I drive by that station in YarmouthPort I think of that weekly reunion (you know the spot on Willow St and Cross St by Railroad Ave in YarmouthPort where you bump over the old tracks -the track divides to go to either Hyannis or P-town?) http://maps.google.com/maps?q=willow+st,+yarmouthport,+ma&hl=en&ll=41.698361 ,-70.258142&spn=0.001085,0.002165&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=35.821085,67.3 24219&hnear=Willow+St,+Yarmouth,+Barnstable,+Massachusetts&t=h&z=19 After MIT, Grandpa worked as a surveyor for the Boston & Albany RR in 1917-1918, then built narrow gauge railroads in the US Army in France in 1919, and then worked as a Civil Engineer for the New York, New Haven and Hartford 1919-1931 . There is a story I wrote about Grandpa, Dad and me at http://www.storyofmylife.com/User/user_story_view.aspx?storyId=7175&UserId=1 757&ChapterId=1845 Leslie's Resume: [after leaving MIT in 1914 when my father died] June 1914-May 1916 - Went into Partnership in a grocery store. Left to take up a position as a temporary rodman with Harbor & Land Commission, Commonwealth of Mass. May 1916- Dec 1916 - Temporary rodman @ $65.00 per month with Harbor & Land Commission January 1917 - July 7, 1918 - Boston & Albany R.R. Salary $11.00 - $36.75 per week. Worked as a chainman, rodman & transitman on proposed railroad construction of new freight yards, extra tracks along existing main trunk lines and the making of span diagram surveys of bridges for the purpose of additional strength. July 1919 - Sept. 1919 - Boston & Albany R.R. Instrumentman Inspection of trestles & bridges from Albany to Boston @ $36.75 per week. Sept. 1919 - Jan 1921 - N.Y.N.H. & H. RR. Transitman @ $40.00 - $43.00 per wk..   Was transitman on the development of the South Bay coach yard. When work on the yard was completed was laid off because of lack of work. Jan. 1924 - July 1931 - N.Y.N.H. & H. R.R. Acting resident engineer @ $46.00 per wk. Was resident engineer on $500,000 project consisting of building an addition to an Engine House, a new machine shop, a power house [Springfield,Mass.], an ox-welding plant, track layouts, of all kinds, such as simple, spiral, compound curves and switches & frogs, engine inspection, pits underground, Grantry cranes, slip tracks, overhead mono rails and about 50 other mechanical improvements around the yard and in the shops to facilitate the repairing of R.R. locomotives and R.R. cars Left to take a Jr. civil engineer rating with the Commonwealth (Metropolitan District Commission, Boston) because our allotments for new work were running out and I wanted steady work. July 1931 - Mar 1947 $2600.00 ======================================================= Hmmmm ....     How many wish that you could still get on a passenger train and travel to all the towns on Cape Cod ?   Betty                (near Lowell, MA)    

    07/22/2012 02:31:00
    1. [NE Railroads] First Train to Arrive in Provincetown, MA
    2. Ms Betty Fredericks
    3. Hello,   In this morning's  MassMoments e-mail,  there is a story about the first train to arrive in Provinctown, MA:       ...in 1873, the first train arrived at the tip of Cape Cod. The streets were bedecked with flags and streamers as 13 bright yellow coach cars, filled to capacity, pulled into Provincetown. The Cape's traditional economy was in decline. Residents were counting on the railroad to bring better times. Summer visitors from Boston could now spend five hours on a comfortable train, instead of risking a choppy ride by steamer or enduring a two-day stagecoach trip. And they could stay in the large hotels that were built in towns all over the Cape. The heyday of the Cape as a railroad resort came to an end when cars became the preferred mode of transportation. In 1959 regular passenger service to Cape Cod ended.   http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=213   If you read that paragraph closely, there are interesting things:     ".... Summer visitors from Boston ....   could now ride on a train ... instead of risking a choppy ride by steamer,  or  enduring a 2-day, stagecoach trip. .."     Meaning mid-1800's !   Then it's interesting to note that . cars and trucks.. became more convenient to get to "the Cape,"  so during 1950's  train, passenger service ended !   Hmmmm ....     How many wish that you could still get on a passenger train and travel to all the towns on Cape Cod ?   Betty                (near Lowell, MA)     (on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.;   now an Admin for 9 Lists and 4 Boards)     P.S.     Dave,  I would be willing to take over as Admin for this List.   The e-mail address I use for being an Admin is:   bbffrrpp@comcast.net

    07/21/2012 09:45:13
    1. [NE Railroads] railroad TRAINS
    2. Charlie, I'm glad that you responded and included the AMTRAK link. A couple of years ago, my wife and I stopped at the Brattleboro station when that train was there. She went to the entrance and asked for info about the routing and one of the conductor types told her that the train didn't go above White River . He must have been a disgruntled jerk . We concluded that there would be no way for us to get to Newport,VT . For a long time now, I have felt bad about losing access to New England railroad things and I was quite sure that this newsletter group had also died . When, lo-and-behold, Betty Fredericks made an understandable error and posted information on this newsletter. That caused a nasty retort by the administrator . But, it did prove that there were still others with interests similar to my own . It would be nice to have a list of other survivors . With your permission, I will add your contact address to my list called TRAINS . "Keep `em highballing " Dave Pierce _______________ In a message dated 3/21/2012 4:09:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _new-england-railroads-request@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:new-england-railroads-request@rootsweb.com) writes: Hi Dave, See: _http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer/AM_Route_C/1241245667150/123740 5732511_ (http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer/AM_Route_C/1241245667150/1237405732511) Charlie Walpole, NH 03608 PontegwaTrail@netzero.net

    03/21/2012 08:48:03
    1. Re: [NE Railroads] NEW-ENGLAND-RAILROADS
    2. Charles Wright
    3. Hi Dave, I missed the question from before, however, Amtrak goes by my house twice daily. It use to go from New York, NY to Montreal (was called the Montrealler), but I'm told, since 9-11, it stops at the boarder now. Today, I see it goes from Washington DC, to NY City, to St. Albans, VT and it's called the "Vermonter." See: http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer/AM_Route_C/1241245667150/1237405732511 Charlie Charles B. Wright PO Box 519 Walpole, NH 03608 PontegwaTrail@netzero.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Piercedav@aol.com> To: <new-england-railroads@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:19 AM Subject: [NE Railroads] NEW-ENGLAND-RAILROADS >A couple weeks ago, there were some primary questions about our railroad > train service to > Canada . > > Anybody got answers ? > > Doing more`n 70 in the past > -lane > Dave Pierce > > ------------------------------- > > NEW ENGLAND RAILROADS MAILING LIST >

    03/20/2012 12:29:49
    1. [NE Railroads] NEW-ENGLAND-RAILROADS
    2. A couple weeks ago, there were some primary questions about our railroad train service to Canada . Anybody got answers ? Doing more`n 70 in the past -lane Dave Pierce

    03/19/2012 05:19:53
    1. [NE Railroads] Note From The Admin
    2. David E. Cann
    3. This is not appropriate for this list, and WAS NOT sent by the List Admin. I am the only Admin of the list, not Betty, so please disregard it and do not discuss it on the list in any way. If you wish to discuss it further, please do so off list among yourselves or directly with the author. Thank you for your cooperation. If you have any questions, you can contact me directly at the email address in my signature lines below. David E. Cann new-england-railroads-admin@rootsweb.com Admin of the New England Railroads mailing list on RootsWeb List information: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Occupations/NEW-ENGLAND-RAILR OADS.html -----Original Message----- From: new-england-railroads-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:new-england-railroads-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ms Betty Fredericks Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:19 AM To: New-England-Railroads@rootsweb.com Subject: [NE Railroads] Posting about Meetings / Events (200 on List) Hello,   Just wanted to remind researchers that there  are just about 200 people on this List.     So, it might be still worth your time to post about a meeting or event that you know about.    And the List is for all of New England.   And March is a good time for meetings, and April is a good time for events.     Like the .re-enactments. soon to be held in Lexington and Concord, MA, for example.     (Monday, April 16, this year.)   http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/patriots-day   And, if someone would like to receive the List in Digest form  (if you are not),  than please be reminded there are 2 kinds of Digests.     One is where the Digest has all the postings running down the page in the e-mail.   The other is where all the postings come in as .attachments.  to your e-mail.     (My preference.)   (In case some don't know, there is just a small "click" on the Management page which changes from one form of Digest to the other -  in one case,  just un-clicking  the box, "Plain.")   I can't mention details at the moment,  but there is at least one,  all-day, genealogy conference in MA this month.   I hope it's not too late to mention it.   Betty              (near Lowell, MA)     (on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.;   now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards)   (Just a reminder to check out the Lists which are also about "New England."   I'd like to see more activity on the New-England-Railroads  List.)

    03/08/2012 02:05:44
    1. [NE Railroads] Posting about Meetings / Events (200 on List)
    2. Ms Betty Fredericks
    3. Hello,   Just wanted to remind researchers that there  are just about 200 people on this List.     So, it might be still worth your time to post about a meeting or event that you know about.    And the List is for all of New England.   And March is a good time for meetings, and April is a good time for events.     Like the .re-enactments. soon to be held in Lexington and Concord, MA, for example.     (Monday, April 16, this year.)   http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/patriots-day   And, if someone would like to receive the List in Digest form  (if you are not),  than please be reminded there are 2 kinds of Digests.     One is where the Digest has all the postings running down the page in the e-mail.   The other is where all the postings come in as .attachments.  to your e-mail.     (My preference.)   (In case some don't know, there is just a small "click" on the Management page which changes from one form of Digest to the other -  in one case,  just un-clicking  the box, "Plain.")   I can't mention details at the moment,  but there is at least one,  all-day, genealogy conference in MA this month.   I hope it's not too late to mention it.   Betty              (near Lowell, MA)     (on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.;   now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards)   (Just a reminder to check out the Lists which are also about "New England."   I'd like to see more activity on the New-England-Railroads  List.)

    03/07/2012 09:18:41
    1. [NE Railroads] Trains and Tracks in Prov. of Quebec
    2. Ms Betty Fredericks
    3. Hello,   Because one set of my ancestors arrived in Canada and the Prov. of Quebec in the 1820's,  I belong to several of the Quebec Lists.     This morning on the Quebec-Research List someone posted a web site which offers a history and photos of trains and associated structures in the Prov. of Quebec.   http://www.irhcfq.org/web_en/database.html   At this second, at 5 am,  I don't remember when train service first began between the Prov. of Quebec and New England and New York, etc.    But, I'm sure I can look it up.        Looking at the pictures just now I was reminded of a similar picture I saw on-line several years ago.      It was about a train traveling down tracks - which were .way.  up there.   Oh,  just this second remembered it was about .covered bridges.     If I'm remembering correctly, the train tracks were on top of a covered bridge.       (Would never find me on that train.)    :o)   In regard to trains being made available between Canada and Maine,   I read about the "old walking trail"  between the Prov. of Quebec and the middle part of Maine.    Can't think of the official Maine at the moment.    But, it's been mentioned on the Lists before.    What I also can't remember whether there were train tracks near that old trail,  or did it just become a highway later on.   Just an FYI for you.   Betty             (near Lowell, MA, USA)     (on Lists for 10 yrs.;  now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards)

    03/07/2012 07:28:03
    1. [NE Railroads] "Black History Month" (U. Railroad)
    2. Ms Betty Fredericks
    3. Hello,   We have had "Black History Month" each February for a while now.      In this morning's  MassMoments e-mail,  there is a story which is about one person who was involved with the "Underground Railroad."   http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=53   This web site gives a better mention of how long the "Underground Railroad" went on  (1780-1862):   An organized system to assist runaway slaves seems to have begun towards the end of the 18th century. In 1786 George Washington complained about how one of his runaway slaves was helped by a "society of Quakers, formed for such purposes." The system grew, and around 1831 it was dubbed "The Underground Railroad," after the then emerging steam railroads. The system even used terms used in railroading: the homes and businesses where fugitives would rest and eat were called "stations" and "depots" and were run by "stationmasters," those who contributed money or goods were "stockholders," and the "conductor" was responsible for moving fugitives from one station to the next. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2944.html   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_Railroad   I became more interested in the "Underground Railroad"  while trying to find out more about my ancestors'  large HUTCHINSON Farm in what is now Winchester, MA.      After the original farmhouse burned down in 1880's a replacement farmhouse was built.    It was definitely not as nice,  but I liked living in it in the 1940's as a child.    My father's grandmother had inherited it in 1930's,  and her adult, disabled son lived there with her.     One day he showed me the "secret room" up in the attic.    I wondered for many years why a .secret room.  was needed.    So I wondered whether it was because of the Underground RR.    But the house was built too late for that.    It was just 2 yrs. ago when someone gave me a good suggestion.    If it was a large farm with many farmworkers and servants,  the families needed .secret room.  to keep their valuables in.     (I have found out that I seem to be the only one who my uncle showed the .secret room. to.     You had to go into the closet of the Master Bedroom, open a small door,  go up tight, steep stairs into the very small room with a shelf and drawers.)   FYI:    The "History of Billerica" mentions that a "black employee" was in the town very early on,  and possibly they were in the "History of Chelmsford" -  both inc.  1655.    I believe the man in Billerica was freed after the death of his owner.   Betty                     (near Lowell, MA)   (on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.;   now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards, including a Board for  New-England-Research, already a List for NewEngGen)   (remember to search for "New England"  in  "Find a List")

    02/14/2012 07:15:25
    1. [NE Railroads] Train Crashes and list of Victims
    2. Ms Betty Fredericks
    3. Hello, Someone on a NH List / Board  has just asked about a .train crash.  that happened in NH.    I think it was 1951,  but I'll go check the posting.     She was asking whether there is a web site - or several -  which offer information on .train crashes.  in New England.     Does anyone know of any? I have to get away from my computer for a while this morning,  but I'll post about the query later in the day. I suppose .train crashes.  or  .train accidents.  could have been caused by many things,  and might have involved "pedestrian injuries" where the train caused the injury,  but it had not necessarily crashed. There was a young lady on a news program this week which a young woman talking about her accident.    It took her a while to be able to talk about it -  mainly because she lost both of her legs - right up to the hips.     I didn't catch the whole interview,  but it seemed she was late getting to the train,  ran fast to catch it,  and ..slipped ! And, we lived right beside a train station for a few years,  and from our 3rd-floor window we could see the station and some of the tracks.    Maybe around 1995,  a young couple was walking the tracks to get up to the station.    I think it was a Sunday afternoon.     I don't know if I remember the correct details,  but I think the lady's shoe got stuck in the tracks, and her boyfriend tried to free her.   But, the train was coming.   She wasn't run over,  but she was knocked off the RR bridge she was on -  landing head-first onto the road below.    I believe that killed her. I think it was on TV within the past month about the story about 2 teen-age girls who were walking on tracks on a bridge.    They decided to take a nap, and fell asleep.   On came a train, and at least one of them lost a leg. There are probably many stories and news reports about how people are killed by a train -  one way or another.    Has there ever been a book written on the subject? Betty                  (near Lowell, MA) (on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.;   now an Admin for 9 Lists and 3 Boards, including the List for  CAN-USA-Migration, and New-England-Memories, and a new Board for New-England-Research) www.rootsweb.com

    01/28/2012 11:17:02
    1. [NE Railroads] O-T, "the Orient Express"
    2. Betty
    3. Hello, Anyone who has an interest in railroads might like to watch a brand-new documentary about "the Orient Express." I woke up very early this morning and got to watch the second half of Masterpiece Mystery with "Hercule Poirot." (I love mysteries.)* Right after that movie ended, a documentary started: "David Suchet: Orient Express." The actor who portrays "Poirot" decided he wanted to go on the present "Orient Express" and make a documentary about the entire ride ! They are just mentioning that it was one day where the train was stuck in a snowbank for 10 days - which became the topic for an Agatha Christie mystery book. At the moment they are showing old film about when the train was used during "Hitler's time." And David is riding on an entirely refurbished - and beautiful - set of train cars. It's a PBS special and I'm watching it on Ch. 11 (NH). Betty (near Lowell, MA) * It's a good thing I love mysteries. In my case, genealogy is all about solving mysteries ! I have brick-walls, concrete-block walls, and concrete-block walls put together with reinforced cement on my family-tree.

    07/09/2010 10:44:45
    1. [NE Railroads] Hopkinton, NH
    2. Betty
    3. Hello, Someone on another List just asked about the Town of Hopkinton, NH. When I looked up the town to see which county it is in, I noticed something interesting. Incorporated in 1765, the Town of Hopkinton was once the state capital and a popular stop on the passenger rail line between Boston and Montreal. http://www.hopkinton-nh.gov/pages/index And, this page reminds me of the historic "covered bridge." A substantial portion of the town in the north was named "Contoocook Village" for a tribe of the Pennacook Indians who once lived there. Due to its position along the Contoocook River, it became a center for water-powered industry, particularly lumber and textiles. The Contoocook covered railroad bridge in the village is a remnant of the Boston & Maine Railroad and is the oldest covered bridge of its kind still standing in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopkinton,_New_Hampshire http://www.nh.gov/nhdhr/bridges/p21.html We used to visit Hopkinton on a regular basis for a few years, but haven't been there in at least a year. Contoocook Village is a nice place to - while away an afternoon. I seem to remember they fixed up the covered bridge a year or 2 ago, or the train station which sits beside it. Betty (near Lowell, MA)

    07/08/2010 02:17:39
    1. [NE Railroads] RR Clip art
    2. Charles Wright
    3. RR Clip art http://www.ribbonrail.com/art/oldsteam.html

    06/11/2010 03:55:49
    1. Re: [NE Railroads] Train Service to Montreal
    2. bob gillis
    3. On 6/5/2010 1:59 PM, Betty wrote: > Hello, > > I have 2 sets of genealogy-pen-pals in Canada because of the ancestors who > arrived in Canada first. For several years some of them have wanted me to > come up that way for a visit. One lady lives in the Canadian side of > Niagara and the other lady said, if I could get up to Montreal by train, she > would meet me there. I just went to find out about trains from New > England that head up to Montreal and found this site: If she lives in southern Ontario, Montreal is a long distance away: You can get from Boston to Montreal but how are you getting from Montreal to the Niagara Peninsula? Niagara Falls to Montreal is 670 Kilometers, about 415 miles You can get from New York City and Albany-Rensselaer to Montreal. If you are welling to take a bus from Boston to Albany and there is one stops at the AMTRAK station in Rensselaer you can do it in one day. Dep A-r 11:05 Am Arri Montreal 7:10 PM. I think it would be better to go from Boston to Niagara Falls ON. Again you would have to take a bus from Boston to Albany-Renselleaer; Train leaves A-R at 10:03 AM and arrives in NF,ON at 4;40 PM. Check out http://amtrak.com/ I do not think there has been direct passenger service between Boston and Montreal for at least 30 years. bob gillis

    06/05/2010 09:59:04
    1. [NE Railroads] "Maine to Montreal"
    2. Betty
    3. Hi again, I did a Google search for "Maine to Montreal" and found this newspaper article from earlier this year about it. I don't remember whether I've already mentioned the article. It offers a little history. http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2010/02/22/railway_shutdown_looms_in_maine/ http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9FATT282.htm http://www.pbase.com/rparent/mma The Arlington, MA, Historical Society has a set of diaries from members of the WINN family, and the pages mention taking the train north. And a cousin of my gr-gr-gr-grandmother, Mrs. Eliza (CROSBY) HUTCHINSON, was Ruth CROSBY and she wrote 2 books about their summer home in Bethel, ME. There are stories in the books about them getting from Arlington, MA, to Bethel to vacation there. http://visitmaine.net/bethel.htm There are many web pages in a search for "Maine to Montreal." .. Have any of you taken a ride on Amtrak's Downeaster? We were considering taking the ride just for the adventure. http://www.amtrakdowneaster.com/ Betty (near Lowell, MA)

    06/05/2010 08:35:09
    1. [NE Railroads] Train Service to Montreal
    2. Betty
    3. Hello, I have 2 sets of genealogy-pen-pals in Canada because of the ancestors who arrived in Canada first. For several years some of them have wanted me to come up that way for a visit. One lady lives in the Canadian side of Niagara and the other lady said, if I could get up to Montreal by train, she would meet me there. I just went to find out about trains from New England that head up to Montreal and found this site: http://www.nrhs.com/spot/rutland/page2.htm Here is an article from 2003 and the proposal to reestablish that train service, and it comes from the 2nd site mentioned: http://www.aot.state.vt.us/planning/Documents/Planning/Final%20Report%204-30-03%20Boston-Montreal%20Chapter5.pdf http://www.aot.state.vt.us/planning/BostonRail.htm Betty (near Lowell, MA) (I just spotted a documentary on "North America's Steam Railways" on Ch. 2 Boston. One of the public-television's - need for help - documentaries.)

    06/05/2010 07:59:39
    1. Re: [NE Railroads] Problems with RR Tracks - hot box
    2. bob gillis
    3. On 6/5/2010 9:11 AM, Ray Sears wrote: > Here in Oklahoma we have a lot of brush fires caused by train "hot-boxes." > I imagine that caused fires in New England too, but of course there is less > rain here (33 inches vs 42 inches). > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_box This article while correct is very much out of date. Friction journal boxes were outlawed from interchange service many yeas ago. I did not see anything in the article that suggested that the fires were cased by hot boxes. Hot boxes today are very infrequent since the changeover to roller bearing journals More likely they were caused by sparks from the diesel engines. > > The tracks here are somewhat of an eyesore because the railroad sprays a > vegetation killer (nuclear Round-up or some such) about 10 feet out from > either side of the tracks to reduce fuel sources. I don't think anything > can live in that kill zone. Berkshire Hathaway's - Burlington Northern runs > everything out here. Fires have been known to burn bridge trusses weakening > them enough to cause de-railments. The remaining plant matter is probably more flammable than the living plants. > > http://www.dbiservices.com/rr/page2.asp bob gillis

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