Arlene, What town did Margaret and Nathaniel settle in? Do you know their marriage date and/or location? Susan Daily On 4/22/07, Arlene Haddock <mahaddock@yahoo.com> wrote: > My great grandmother left Ireland with a cousin, > probably from the port of Cork. It is said she was > born and lived in Dublin. They probably came to the > Port of Boston. I have not been able to find a ship > that she could have come on. > > Margaret married Nathaniel Sherman Northup(1831 - > 1894). > > Margaret O'Connell was born in 1838 and died 1880. > Any information or suggestions would be welcome. > > Thank you. > > Arlene Clarke Haddock > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ====New England Irish Mailing List==== > Check out the NE-Irish website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NEIrish/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ENGLAND-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sandy, You mentioned that Julia Carl is married in the 1850 census with husband Benjamin Bennett. What town? If she is listed in that household, then she shouldn't be the same Julia Carle in the Northampton 1850 census that you listed before. (But I know mistakes do occur.) Please let me/us know where you found her in the 1850 and 1860 census. Thanks, Susan Daily On 4/22/07, Myrtle1893@att.net <Myrtle1893@att.net> wrote: > Recently found information on my gr gr gr grandmother and am trying to piece together any "between the lines" information that may be in the concrete information that I do have. I'd appreciate any help other Irish researchers may have to offer. > > Name: Julia CARL > b. abt. 11 June 1834, Northampton, Hampshire Mass [birth calculated from age at death] [location from birth record of child] > m. 1849/1850 location unknown [1850 census has box checked for "married within the year"] Benjamin Knight Bennett. > > Other clues: > 1850 census Northampton, Ma. > Michael Carle 40 Laborer b. Ireland {abt 1810} > Alice Carle 40 b. Ireland {abt 1810} > Patrick Carle 12 b. Mass {abt 1838} > Julia Carle 15 b. Mass {abt 1835} > Mary Carle 7 b. Mass {abt 1843} > Catherine Carle 4 b. Mass {abt 1846} > Richard Carle 4 b. Mass {abt 1846} > Richard Carlyle 80 b. Ireland {abt 1770} > > I checked NEHGS for any births in Northampton that may be for this family but had no luck with that. > I am hoping that this is her family group. Unfortunatly when she died of consumption in Woonsocket RI on 20 may 1876, the information on the certificate was sparse and the only information I have on parentage is the identification as "IRISH". > > My questions: what wuld prompt an Irish family come to the US prior to 1835? > Where did they go? I cannot find the family in later census records > is the progression of the name from Caryle, to Carle, to Carl a logical one or am I reading more into this that exists? > > I'd surely appreciate any help one may have to offer on ideas for further research and places to look. > Kind regards, > Sandy from Colorado

My Roots are in Lawrence,Essex co,Ma. Daniel Nolan and Catherine devereux.bef 1850 In my search I found a Dennis Nolan origin unknown.Who married a Martha Dubose. In South Carolina.now Dubose is an old Hugenot line coming from Canada. This has seemed odd and out of place,Nolan's were not french protestants,unless it was De Nollent.The decendants are nowhere to be found.Dubose is still a prominent family in Sumpter Co,SC. I have been told that,Appalacia,with a haven for those hiding from the English.So i put this theory on the back burner.Dennis could have fought in the Revolutionary war.Military Land Grants were a popular way of paying for Military Duty.Those who did not fish worked in many different plantations up and down the Eastern Seacoast.

You would need to have an idea about when she arrived and who she might have been with on arrival to narrow down the many choice for the name Margaret O"Connell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene Haddock" <mahaddock@yahoo.com> To: <NEW-ENGLAND-IRISH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: [NEW-ENGLAND-IRISH] Margaret O'Connell or Connell > My great grandmother left Ireland with a cousin, > probably from the port of Cork. It is said she was > born and lived in Dublin. They probably came to the > Port of Boston. I have not been able to find a ship > that she could have come on. > > Margaret married Nathaniel Sherman Northup(1831 - > 1894). > > Margaret O'Connell was born in 1838 and died 1880. > Any information or suggestions would be welcome. > > Thank you. > > Arlene Clarke Haddock > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ====New England Irish Mailing List==== > Check out the NE-Irish website: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NEIrish/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ENGLAND-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Arlene~ If your great grandmother was born & lived in Dublin City, why do you think she sailed from Cork City or a port in County Cork? That is traveling from one side of the country to the other at a time when land travel was not all that comfortable or easy. In what year or approx. year did she emigrate? Mary Ellen Chambers Arlene Haddock <mahaddock@yahoo.com> wrote: My great grandmother left Ireland with a cousin, probably from the port of Cork. It is said she was born and lived in Dublin. They probably came to the Port of Boston. I have not been able to find a ship that she could have come on. Margaret married Nathaniel Sherman Northup(1831 - 1894). Margaret O'Connell was born in 1838 and died 1880. Any information or suggestions would be welcome. Thank you. Arlene Clarke Haddock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ====New England Irish Mailing List==== Check out the NE-Irish website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NEIrish/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEW-ENGLAND-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Recently found information on my gr gr gr grandmother and am trying to piece together any "between the lines" information that may be in the concrete information that I do have. I'd appreciate any help other Irish researchers may have to offer. Name: Julia CARL b. abt. 11 June 1834, Northampton, Hampshire Mass [birth calculated from age at death] [location from birth record of child] m. 1849/1850 location unknown [1850 census has box checked for "married within the year"] Benjamin Knight Bennett. Other clues: 1850 census Northampton, Ma. Michael Carle 40 Laborer b. Ireland {abt 1810} Alice Carle 40 b. Ireland {abt 1810} Patrick Carle 12 b. Mass {abt 1838} Julia Carle 15 b. Mass {abt 1835} Mary Carle 7 b. Mass {abt 1843} Catherine Carle 4 b. Mass {abt 1846} Richard Carle 4 b. Mass {abt 1846} Richard Carlyle 80 b. Ireland {abt 1770} I checked NEHGS for any births in Northampton that may be for this family but had no luck with that. I am hoping that this is her family group. Unfortunatly when she died of consumption in Woonsocket RI on 20 may 1876, the information on the certificate was sparse and the only information I have on parentage is the identification as "IRISH". My questions: what wuld prompt an Irish family come to the US prior to 1835? Where did they go? I cannot find the family in later census records is the progression of the name from Caryle, to Carle, to Carl a logical one or am I reading more into this that exists? I'd surely appreciate any help one may have to offer on ideas for further research and places to look. Kind regards, Sandy from Colorado

In a message dated 4/22/2007 10:24:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, Myrtle1893@att.net writes: > My questions: what wuld prompt an Irish family come to the US prior to 1835?< Sandy, If you haven't gone to _www.google.com_ (http://www.google.com) go to it. I typed in Conditions in Ireland in 1830. Then 1820s One of the website: _http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features/immig/irish2.html_ (http://memory.loc.gov/learn/features/immig/irish2.html) Joan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My great grandmother left Ireland with a cousin, probably from the port of Cork. It is said she was born and lived in Dublin. They probably came to the Port of Boston. I have not been able to find a ship that she could have come on. Margaret married Nathaniel Sherman Northup(1831 - 1894). Margaret O'Connell was born in 1838 and died 1880. Any information or suggestions would be welcome. Thank you. Arlene Clarke Haddock __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi - if you want a really detailed history of the potato famine, try: Woodham-Smith, Cecil. THe Great Hunger. 1962. Old Town Books, NY 941.58 Woo It is not focused on New England, but it sure tells you how NE history was affected by the arrival of thousands of dying, starving and ill Irish.

My g.g.grandfather Peter Oates was from County Longford Ireland. He married a Bridget Rowley in the mid 1840's in Templemichael, Longford. They had children in Ireland James and Hugh, Hugh died in the famine. Peter moved his family to Liverpool, England and lived with a family named Ward(not known if related or not) His daughter Ellen was born while in Liverpool---soon after they came to the Boston area and a son Peter was born. Records show Bridget and her Rowley family and the 2 Oates children came over on a different ship than Peter. They settled in Hopkinton, Middlesex, Mass. Bridget and baby Peter soon died of small-pox. Peter then married Mary Nugent Burke(widow) they had 2 sons Peter and Patrick. Peter being my g.grandfather. Mary Nugent came over from Ballinasloe, Galway, Ireland in about 1849 and lived in Hopkinton Middlesex, Mass. Helen Ware

By way of introduction I'm researching the families of John Hurley & Mary Donohue, Mary's mother, Mary Spillane and Helen Josephine Hurley and her husband Philip Sheridan Knauer. John Hurley, b. 15 July 1830, Bantry, County Cork, Ireland; d. Aug 1915, Providence, RI, m. 30 Jul, 1856, St. Patrick's Church, Providence, RI Mary Donohue, b.16 Sept 1838, Glegariff, County Cork, Ireland, d.14 Dec 1916, Manning St., Providence, RI, John and Mary had 15 children, 13 of which survived. One of the thirteen surviving children was Helen Josephine Hurley, b.3 Sept, 1879, Gano St., Providence RI, d. 1971, Lloyd Ave., Providence RI, m. 8 Jan 1908, St. Joseph's, Providence, RI, Philip Sheridan Knauer, b.3 Aug 1870, Warwick, Chester County, PA, d. 7 May, 1952. Mary Donohue (Donahue) Spillane b. 1805, County Cork, Ireland, d. 1877, Providence, RI. I am looking for information for the following: John Hurley's stone reads U.S.N. 1853-4, 1864-5/Bucklin Post No. 20 G.A.R. And, #93 is stamped into the base of the stone. Does anyone know what the # stamped into the base of the stone may represent and, secondly, does anyone have information about the Bucklin Post No. 20 G.A.R. or a suggestion where I might find information about the post? Thanks, Pat Stano-Carpenter

Does anyone have any info on Patrick Kelley, of Boston, Mass. This is what I know: Patrick Kelley was a laborer, married a Mary (have seen her surname as Gill, Conley and Cluney). They had a son, Bartlett, born 29 Jul 1847, Boston, MA; died 26 Jun 1900, Rowley, MA; married Celinda GRANT Haskell (first husband was Asaph Haskell) 20 Jan 1868, Rowley, MA. Celinda was born 12 Jul 1843, Franfort, ME; died 25 Aug 1903, Rowley, MA. She was the daughter of Jefferson and Emeline (Plumer) Grant. Bartlett Kelley was a railroad man. He was also a Civil War veteran; invalid pension. He enlisted as a Private in Company D, 48th Infantry Regiment in the state of Massachusetts on 24 September 1862. He said he was 18 years when he enlisted. He served under Capt. Noyes. Enlisted 15 Aug 1862-mustered out 24 Sep 1862.Was severly wounded 27 May 1863 in an assault on Port Hudson, LA. Mustered out on 3 Sep 1863 in Camp Lander, Wenham, MA. Bartlett was 5' tall, with fair complexion, light hair and blue eyes (according to his pension records). According to the 1900 census, Bartlett and Celinda had 1 child (Charles Maurice Kelley) and he was not living in 1900. According to the 1860 census, Bartlett was 13 years of age. He was living in Rowley with Thomas and Mary (Saunders) Cressey-both 66 years of age. Thank you, Shari Kelley Worrell Researching Essex County, Mass Brick Walls Conley/Cluney, Kelley, Ramsdell, Wilson, Bailey ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Looking to connect to any Craig Irish families from Ahoghill, County Antrim, Northern Ireland; Especially those Craig families listed in 1766 Irish Religious Census for that area: William Craig (2x), James Craig, John Craig, and Adam Craig. We have DNA Profile for well documented Craig Family from the above to the USA in 1773-1774. If possible Craig Family connection contact below. God Bless. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist 2418 Lebanon Road Pendleton, SC 29670 Herb_316@Bellsouth.net 864 2616636 Group Administrator Hendricks DNA Project Secretary Hendricks Family Association Current Research Families; Major, Smith, Craig, Hendricks, Eskew, Rochester Web site = http://www.familytreedna.com/public/hendricks

I was overwelmed with hope.My Ancestors were from Lawrence,and North Andover Massachusetts, They were part of a large migration of Irish across the Canadian Border,pre-1850.without papers of immigration,possibly running from the English. Daniel Nolan and wife the former Catherine Devereux.Daniel worked on the fish walk section of the Great Dam,across the Merrimack River.They were parishoners of St Mary's,Catholic Church. With them came Mary Nolan,she married a Dempsey and disappeared..? They did honeymoon,In Ireland where she was born.I have a picture to prove that. Daniel Patrick Nolan also born in Ireland.may have been a Plumber by trade.He married Ellen Mattheson [scot] d/o Dougal Mattheson and Jennett McLacam.Daniel died apr 15 1897 in Boston,Ma.? Children of Daniel and Ellen Daniel Nolan born apr 19 1865 and did young * John Thomas Nolan,my great grandfather b july 1871-d feb 1946-Spanish American War Veteran-listed on the Hiker Monument. see below Daniel Winslow Nolan,b july july 1873 d oct 1927-married Henrietta Whipple apr 1921 more information wanted George Patrick Nolan,b june 7 1876 died june 1918 more information wanted ......................................................................... *John Thomas Nolan,m Elizabeth V Barry, d/o James and Mary Barry,aug 1904 John and Elizabeth lived in North Andover Alice E Nolan died young Daniel Nolan m Thresa Lavin both deceased s/o Daniel John Nolan was a jazz musician. deceased Marion Nolan m George Emmott both deceased *George David Nolan,my father was a WWll Navy Veteran,Met and married an English Girl. both deceased There are living relatives so some information is being witheld. I have yet been able to find which county in Ireland, My, Nolan's came from.? Mary Nolan who came to Lawrence and married a Dempsey is somewhere.? Daniel Winslow and George Patrick Nolan are out there somewhere.? ....................................................................... I have had DNA testing done.at Family Tree DNA.now an international testing company. 37 markers comfirm a common Nolan ancestor.Thought many generations ago, I am a Nolan on my fathers side.Possibly Co Carlow,in Ireland being the most common origin.Haplo-group, Rb1,Niall and the Nine Hostage cir-5 t/h Century.is very common, about 22% of all Irish Males.are in this haplo-group the earliest Maternal,Deveroux, is a Cambro-Norman,Irish Surname.The name came to Ireland with William the Conqueror. mot common in Co.Wexford,near Co.Carlow Mattheson and Barry are most likely Scot's records are very sparce on this family.which leads me to believe,they were hiding.either from the English,Immigration,or somebody in Ireland.?

South New England Irish http://www.rootsweb.com/~ussnei/ Worcestor County Mass 1855 Irish in the Census http://www.rootsweb.com/~maworces/55irishcen.htm Bill Keough

I am searching the families of Anthony(Ireland) and Maria W. O'Neill (England), aka Anthony and Maria W. Manning. I believe they originally went to ME and then I know they lived in Pawtucket, RI . Most died in Providence. Childrens' names are: Elizabeth " Jane" O'Neil born England, James Lawrence O'Neill aka Manning, Joseph Hugh O'Neil born Lincoln/Central Falls as were Sarah and Rosella, There were 10 children , but I only have proof of the ones listed. Jane is my great grandmother. She married James Marr in 1876 in Pawtucket. Several are buried in St. Francis Cemetery. I have never found anyone else searching this family so any help will be greatly appreciated. Nancy M. Hattox San Diego, CA. Searching MacKay, Fraser, MacGregor, Grant Marr, Rylands, O'Neill, O'Neill/Manning ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Dear List, I am researching the Killoy family that settled in New Haven, CT. Michael Killoy was my great grandfather and his wife was Alice or Elice Keenan Killoy. Michael immigrated to America in 1866. There are several dates given for his birth but 1850 is about when he was born. His daughter, Esther Veronica Killoy was my grandmother and she was born about 1894 in New Haven, CT. One other daughter Katherine married into the Walker family and moved to West Haven, CT. Still another Sarah married into the Devlin family. My great uncle William Joseph Killoy was a fireman that died in the line of duty in New Haven. I know that he also owned a saloon in NH. Michael was a teamster and lived on Collis St. which is no longer there due to the building of I 95. There were numerous Killoy's in the area but I cannot connect some of them to this family. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Lynn Schrag formerly of Milford, CT

Here are some items that might be interesting for people researching in Boston, Massachusetts. I'm not including the New England Historic Genealogical Society -- but please check them out, too! The Tufts University Digital Archive has created digital versions of several Boston City Directories: http://bcd.lib.tufts.edu/ Worth poking around this site. Search engine is clumsy at best (sigh) and almost everything seems to be alphabetical, very comprehensively alphabetical! The City of Boston has info on genealogical information in its archives at: http://www.cityofboston.gov/archivesandrecords/genealogical.asp At the Boston Public Library genealogical info is under the Social Sciences Department. Start at: http://bpl.org/research/socsci/index.htm You can search the BPL site for genealogical stuff from this page: http://bpl.org/electronic/biography.asp. Hmm, seems to require a Boston Library card number. Area residents can, I believe, get a temporary one online... -- -- --- Richard Danca Newton, MA rdanca@gmail.com ------

Ancestry has added in the past week or so this new data base. Steve Morse has added a easy one step search at: http://www.stevemorse.org/ The link is next to last, under Other Ports of Immigration. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This is a great resource. I have it and I believe it was only $15 when I bought it. In the back it gives all the Family History Library film numbers. On 3/26/07, Susan Daily <cullivans@gmail.com> wrote: > > FYI - the publisher of the Reilly book is: > > Clearfield Company, Inc., by > Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. > Baltimore, Maryland > Copyright 2000 > > On 3/25/07, Susan Daily <cullivans@gmail.com> wrote: > > I thought this might be of use to list members who are also searching > > the roots of their New England Irish; Terry allowed me to forward the > > message here. > > --Susan Daily > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > I saw your post on James Reilly and his info on Griffith's Valuation. > > He also has a book (which I have) called Richard Griffith and His > > Valuations of Ireland. It is really quite interesting and valuable - > > there is more to GV than is apparent at first glance. You might look > > around for it in local genealogy libraries or societies. If you end up > > trying to buy it, it should be around $23 - $25. > > > > > > Terry McVeigh > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com