" I remember Ryan did find a reference to a ship in a biography of one of the IL Neavills and the ship was also associated with the Neufville group, but I did not realize he had established an actual link between the two groups. I may have missed some of the discussion. " >From foggy memory, the article was from Wayne Co, IL and said the Neavill's of that county were related to the guys of the ship. And Enoch was the only Neavill in that county. I guess we are still assuming that George (of Effingham Co IL) and Enoch (of Wayne Co, IL) were related and possibly brothers. Ryan, help me explain it?? ____ Barbara