BARBARA A MCNAMER wrote: > " I remember Ryan did find a reference to a ship in a > biography of one of the IL Neavills and the ship was also associated > with > the Neufville group, but I did not realize he had established an > actual link > between the two groups. I may have missed some of the discussion. > " > > >From foggy memory, the article was from Wayne Co, IL and said the > Neavill's of that county were related to the guys of the ship. And > Enoch was the only Neavill in that county. I guess we are still > assuming that George (of Effingham Co IL) and Enoch (of Wayne Co, IL) > were related and possibly brothers. Ryan, help me explain it?? Here's what I have. In May and June of1918 a series of newspaper articles appeared in the Wayne County Press by William Robert Jones. Jones was the editor of the Yellville, Arkansas, Mountain Echo, though he was a native of Wayne County. In the articles he recorded his remembrances and those of other early inhabitants of the area. The following paragraph is an excerpt from one of these articles: The roster of Virginia and North Carolina show a great number of Harrises who were soldeirs of the Revolution. There was a Robert Harris of North Carolina that was one of the signers of the first Declaration of Independence at Meckleburg. He also lost an arm at Guilford Court House. There was also a Thomas Harris that was captured at Charleston when General Lincoln capitulated in 1780. This Harris was kept prisoner on the British ship, TORBAY, for several months, along with the following men whose relatives finally found their way into Wayne County: Francis Bailey, Jonathon Clark, James Cox, Richard Cummings, Joseph Dunlap, Richard Edwards, Thomas Elliot, Sr., Joseph Elliot, John Evans, Wm. Elliot, Michell George, Lieut. Stephens Lee, George Jones, Philip Meyers, Lieut. Samuel Miller, Lieut. Wm. Harvey, William Graves, David Hamilton, John B. Holmes, William Holmes, Col. Stephen Moore, William Murphey, John Morgan, John Neville, Jr., Wm. Neville, John Owen, Job Palmer, Joseph Robinson, Col. Richard Clough Anderson, John Scott, Sr., John Stephenson, Jr., Daniel Stephenson, Samuel Smith, Stephen Shrewsbury, Lieut. Simeon White, Isaac White, Benjamin Wheeler, John Waters, Jr., William Wilcox, Lieut. John Black, Joseph Ball, John Edwards, and others. Later when I was doing a GenWeb search of the name NEUFVILLE, I found the following page: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/nc+index+4177536670+F This is from the North Carolina State Records. It is a letter from Letter from Stephen Moore and John Barnwell to General N. Greene written from the prison ship FORBAY in Charlestown (Charleston) Harbor on 18 May 1781. It lists the prisoners of the ship including the names that Jones listed in his Wayne County Press articles though many of the names are spelled slightly differently: CLARKE instead of CLARK, COMMIUS instead of CUMMINGS, and NEUFVILLE instead of NEVILLE. The person who edited the online list says: "These were doubtless prisoners mostly of the battle of Camden, Aug, 1780. Those of the two States cannot be separated, but the list is of interest in itself."