Paul, Thank you for your interesting reply to my questions about your group. I have read a little about the NC loyalists and know that some did go to the Natchez Territory (later Mississippi) and across the MS River to Louisiana, which were under Spanish rule during the Rev. I did not know about those loyalists who went to Canada. Do you find any Alstons, Dromgooles, or Mulkeys in the Canadian immigrants from North Carolina? Those families were in the NC area, and some of them seemed to have had mixed reactions to the rebellion. The names are found in the same area as Nevilles in NC and MS, and there is a family connection of the Altstons to the Dromgooles and in turn, to the Nevills/Nevels in Mississippi. The earliest reference to Nevills who lived in the area which ultimately became Halifax Co. and Orange Co., NC is to Benjamin Nevill. Although some genealogies show he is part of the Isle of Wight/Nansemond Co., VA Nevill group, that connection has not been definitely established (even though the histories show it). Clues do point to the connection, but more work needs to be done on that part of the line. I have some questions about the following quote from your post: >Worst case scenario, assuming William was just another "wannabe", I still >liked the James Neville, born 1849 Halifax Co NC (I have been using c1848 >for MY James for almost two years now for reasons too long to go into here, >but well before I read Jesse M Lawrence Jr's piece on 'William, the >Immigrant'), the one of whom Jesse Lawrence says "need to research this >James Neville". Was 1849 a typo? Should it be 1749? Do you have the date of Jesse's post? I looked for it and couldn't find it. I wonder how Jesse established the birthdate for James? Do you know Mark Neville, another of your line who has been a member of the Neville List? He lives in KY, the same state where I live. Jan4