Hi group...with all the new and welcome folks coming aboard, thought I'd try this one on again for size. There are two (2) JOHN NEVILLE'S that can resemble our "Ark and Dove" John in this family, so if anyone can extend, connect or has any information on these critters, please advise! 1. John Neville b: 1608, son of George Neville of Thorney, Nottinghamshire m. 11-23-1600 to Jane Tyrwhitt. 2. John Neville b: (around that time), son of Denny's Neville of Throney, m. Elizabeth Debden. good hunting........... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30