Yesterday, we had some Roet's floating around concerning John of Gaunt, his wife and posibly her mother. Somewhere I picked up that Katherine de Roet was the third wife (childless) of Ralph Neville B: 1364 who had previously married Margaret Stafford and Joan Beaufort. I additionally get confused since this "source" had this subject Katherine married to Hugh Swynford. Catherine Swynford, aka Roet, aka Hainault, wife of John of Gaunt I thought was the daughter of Guillaume IV of Hainault and Katherine de Roet. Question: does anyone have the birth and death dates of Katherine de Roet, wife of Hugh Swynford and Ralph Neville(if she was their wife). Does anyone have the birth dates or death dates of Katherine de Roet, reported wife of Guillaume IV of Hainault. Is Guillaume and Hugh the same person (kinda doubt it). Was Katherine married to all three of these critters, Ralph Neville, Hugh Swynford and Guillaume or do we have two Katherine de Roet's or do we really give a rip. Have we settled on the name of Catherine Swynford as "the" name to use as the wife of John of Gaunt. Was John of Gaunt a "Beaufort" according to the "chart" I have on file or was he a Plantagenet as reported by Glenn? I can make my life real simple by deleting Katherine as the third wife of Ralph or just leave her hang out there, however with Hugh Swynford being shown as the husband of Katherine, I'm a little reluctant to delete old Guillaume IV as the father of Catherine Swynford who married John of Gaunt...........bye (now aint this fun!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30