Glenn.....any chance for you to post your line from Capt Thomas Harris, believe shown on Jean Scarlett's line as Thomas Harris b:1586 m. Joan Gurganey down to your mother. I have some of the Harris info you gave me, but not sure the "group" has it, anyway, I stop a couple of generations upwdard from your mom......thanx.....Ren ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30