Jan, Thank you for the explanation. I must have missed the first part of the discussion. Now things make sense. I must admit that you know more about my Neville family in Barren Co. KY than I do! It was one of the many things that was put on the back burner by other commitments and I never got back to it. Also, I have lost the notes file on my Nevilles in PAF so I have to reconstruct it and as rusty as I am on the family, it could take a while. Anyway, if memory doesn't totally fail me, one of my James' brothers was the commander of Fort Pitt and I "think?" he stayed in PA. Also, another possibility for PA Neville families was a James Nevill who was a land agent for William Penn in New Jersey in the 1680's. I have never found any relationship between him and OUR John, but, who knows, back in Eng. anything is possible. I am printing your note and will go over it in greater detail offline. Thanks for all the info though! Sandy