At 12:27 PM 8/8/97 -0400, you wrote: > >Gabe: >Sorry but I have made no such discovery and I don't recall saying that. >It is merely a possibility. What I may have said is that my Nevills here >in Ontario married into the SECORD (SICARD) family who were of Huguenot >ancestry and whose home when coming to North America was in New Rochelle, >N.Y. as was Dr. Jean Neufvilles. The above mentioned marriage took >place in 1808 which is a long time removed from Dr. John Neufville of New >Rochelle. There is of course a chance that these families were >acquainted back in New Rochelle; it was a small settlement so they >likely were but whether that would be remembered in Ontario more than >100 years later is doubtful. However it is certainly worth exploring the >possibility of our Nevill ancestors in MD being of Huguenot ancestry. > > >Last week I wrote to The Huguenot Society in N.Y. State asking if they >have any information on John Neufville in their files and if so could I >purchase copies. I will post the results if and when I obtain any. > > Paddy _________________________ Paddy, My last post went out before I read your reply. I am interested to hear what you learn about Dr. Jean. In response to Neufvilles in New Rochelle and Nevilles in Cecil Co., MD, here is what I have: According to a correspondent, Dorothy Neville Kimbrell, in 1690 Dr. Jean de Neufville from Tours, France, purchased land in New Rochelle, NY. He had a son John b. 1678. This son John died before 1710, leaving two young sons, Edward and John. The same correspondent indicated that Edward, son of Dr. Jean above, could possibly be the Edward Neville who appeared in Cecil Co., MD, in early 1700s. In Cecil Co., MD, an Edward and Thomas Neville appeared in court records on 28 April 1721. An Edward Neville and his wife Mary of St. Mary Ann Parish, Cecil Co., MD, had issue: William (b. 1719), Thomas (b. 1721), Sara (b. 1727), Joseph (b. 1729), James (b. 1732), and John (b. 1740). Thus far, I have not heard or seen anything which links Edward, son of Jean de Neufville, and Edward Neville of Cecil Co., MD. (This is your line isn't it, Gabe? Would you mind posting your lineage again. I must have joined this list after you did this. The info. I have on this line is from Dorothy Neville Kimbrell.) I will post what I have researched on NY and SC Neufville family since it may connect with information some of the rest of you have. From HISTORY OF HUGUENOT EMIGRATION TO AMERICA by Chas. Baird: John de Neufville, b. ca 1639, in Tours, France. May 3, 1712 will in New Rochelle, New York names wife Rachel le Vilain, native of isle of St. Christopher. Will probated 21 Dec. 1716. Everything was left to widow, so we have a widow Rachel Neufville/Neville in early 1700s. (How's that for muddying the waters, Ren?) New Rochelle, NY 1698 census shows following children with John/Jean and Rachel Neufville: John, age 20; Prudence, age 18; Mary, age 16; Jeanne, age 14; James Peter, age 12; Sehe(?) age 8; Josias, age 7; Rachel, age 6; Martha, age 3. This gives you an idea of who was running around up North with a Neufville surname which was often corrupted to Neuville/Neaville/Neville because the f is silent when the French pronunciation is used. From COLLECTIONS OF THE HUGUENOT SOCIETY OF AMERICA / VOL. I/ REGISTERS OF THE BIRTHS/ MARRIAGES/ AND DEATHS OF THE "ENGLISE FRANCOISE A LA NOUVELLE YORK" FROM 1688 TO 1804, p. 165: Baptesme- Auiourdhuy dimanche 6e de May 1722 aprest las predication du soir monsr. Rou a Baptise' Jean Noviles ne' le 27e darvil dernr. fils de guillaume Noviles et de Susanne son Epouse presente' au St. Baptesme par daniel Beau et Jeane Renaud parrain et Marainne. L: ROU Pasteur. W. NEVILE DANIEL BEAU JEANNE RENAUD [I posted the above exactly as written in source in case my college French paraphase is not close enough to exact translation: English French in New York- On 6 May 1722, Pastor Rou baptized Jean Noviles, born 27 April, son of Willam and Susanne Noviles. Daniel Beau and Jeane Renaud, godfather and godmother. Signed: W. Nevile, Daniel Beau, Jeanne Renaud] From 30,000 NAMES OF IMMIGRANTS IN PENNSYLVANIA by Daniel Rupp, p. 463: "Names of Males at New Rochelle [NY] in 1710" includes John Neffveile, age 69, and Josiah Neffveile, age 18. Neufvilles are also found in early 1700s in area of Charleston, South Carolina. At one time, I thought I had found a link between John Neufville of Charleston in early 1700s and those in New Rochelle, but I have since decided that there is not enough evidence. Notes on migration patterns: During the reign of Louis XIV, persecution of French Protestants, the Huguenots, became acute. In the last fifteen years of the 17th century, thousands of the most talented people of France fled to Switzerland, Holland, and British Isles. A scattering of Huguenots were settling in South Carolina between 1670 and 1680. Around 500 were in Charleston area by 1700, but no large groups arrived until 1732 and again in 1764. Almost on the eve of the Revolution, Huguenot colonists were given land in what is now McCormick County in the rugged up-country of SC. The settlement was named New Bordeaux and was southwest of Abbeville, which was also settled by French. According to one source (which I can't find right now), SC is said to be the first place the Huguenots settled in the colonies. One group of Huguenot settlers arrived in "Manikintown," VA, (on James River) in 1690 and another in 1699. Many of these emigrants moved farther south, settling on the river Trent, a branch of the Neuse, in North Carolina, where a colony was established in 1707. Around 1683, many Huguenots settled in and around Germantown, Pennsylvania. Initial settlements in Frederick Co., MD, occurred around and before 1735. New Rochelle, in Westchester Co., NY, was settled by Huguenots from Rochelle, a seaport-town of France. [They may have come to NY by way of another country sympathetic to the plight of the brutally persecuted Calvinist Huguenots; thus the country of birth for a child born during the time of Huguenot emigration might be listed as England. My note - Jan] (Sources: SOUTH CAROLINA / A HISTORY by Louis B. Wright. MEMORIALS OF THE HUGUENOTS by A. Stapleton. COLLECTIONS OF HUGUENOT SOCIETY, VOL. I - see above.) An interesting side note: In addition to typical French given names such as Robert, Jean/John, Guilluame/William, and Philip, many male Huguenot given names were Biblical, such as Zachariah, Ephraim, Daniel, Josiah, Isaiah, Baranabas, Jacob, Gabriel, and all of the apostles' names. Rachel was also a popular given name for girls (as in New Rochelle). In Joseph Habersham's HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS / VOL. I, p. 222: "182. NEUFVILLE- In Sunday's constitution I read a letter signed by James Neuville in which he stated that the family of Neuville settled in different parts of the states including South Carolina. Elizabeth Neufville (a Huguenot) was the wife of James Moore, second Colonial Governor of South Carolina...There are two sons of the late Frank Neufville living in Atlanta. Their father was raised in Savannah, Georgia. The writer of the letter published had the name spelled in many ways. The name in my family is dated in 1700 Neufville..." 1726-1737: Rebecca Flavell to John Neufville, leases and releases for part of town lot #38 in Charlestown. 1735: John Neuvuill, plat for 700 acres in Berkley County, SC. 1736: John Neufille, land grant for 700 acres in Berkley County, SC. In THE HUGUENOTS OF COLONIAL SOUTH CAROLINA by A. H. Hirsch: Neufville name found in records in 1730s. John Neufville #1 had apparently died before 1753 when the following case appeared in SC court: Jacob Martin, survivor of John Neufville vs. Hugh Cartwright, judgement roll, 1753 (SC Dept. of Archives and History Alaphabetical Index). DAR LINEAGE BOOK, VOL. 159, p. 285: John Neufville (1725-1804) appointed by Provincial Government, 1775, one of committee of three to seize British mail at port of Charleston. John was born in England and died in Charleston, SC. He married in 1746 to Martha Rogers (1728-1779). Thier daughter Christian Neufville (1750-1841) m. John Hyslop. DAR LINEAGE BOOK, VOL. 140, p. 109: [Contradictory information - Jan] John Neufville (1727-1804), intercepter of important dispatches; b. and d. in South Carolina; married Elizabeth Moore (1730-1807) in 1749. [Was the above Martha Rogers the first wife? - Jan] Their son: Isaac Neufville (1767-1817) m. 1794 Ann Simons. Son of Isaac and Ann: Benjamin Simons Neufville (1802-1855) m. in 1831 to Harriet Elenor Gray (1807-1893). Son of Benj. and Harriet: Benjamin Kohne Neufville (1834-1904) m. Julia Torr (1835-1877). SC WILLS, VOL. 29, p. 717 & 718 (SC Dept. of Archive and History, Columbia, SC): John Neufville of Charleston, SC, names wife Elizabeth, and sons John Neufville, Edward Neufville, Peter Marshall Neufville, Isaac Neufville, and dau. Elizabeth Neufville [witnesses not listed on copy I have - Jan]. Proved on 9 Nov. 1804. (Will Book 1800-1807, Book D, p. 501) South Carolina, District of Charleston, Ordinarys Office, July 13, 1834: "I certify that satisfactory evidence was adduced(?) to me to prove that Eliza Kohne - widow - a sister of the deceased - John - William - and Benjamin Neufville, sons of the late Isaac Neufville - a brother of the Deceased - are the Representatives and the only heirs at law in fee(?) to Dr. Willm. Neufville who was a Surgeon in the South Carolina Line under the commanding Officers in the same- Given under my hand and Seal of Office, this thirteenth day of July 1834. Thomas Lehre Junr. Ordinary Charleston District [This came from the folder of Revolutionary War service of William Neufville, I think - Jan] _____________________________