Jan -- I have not read Floyd on this, but just looking at the passage business involving James, Dorothy, Rebecca, Richard, James John and Thomas Neville, I would have to seriously consider that this is another James Neville -- not the one born in VA. I could be wrong, but my understanding of passage claims, is that you were eligable only if you paid your own fare to America and that of any other passenger you brought with you -- again for whom you paid. Perhaps kids either did not pay sepatately for passage, or were excluded from claim eligability. I do not know the answer to that. But I would surmise that this would have been this James initial trip coming with his family for which he is entering his claim. If he had gone back to England to bring over a new wife, he would be able to claim her passage but not for his second trip, hence there would be only one claim.. I think we may have 2 James's here. James the son of immigrant John, born 1686 in Northampton Co., VA, and had son John and perhaps no other children. The second James might well be a later immigrant arriving some time (it could be years) before this 1697 claim with the children shown, including a second John. The Nevilles of Bullock Co., GA claim descent from a Jacob Neville, born 1699 who would have been born after the claim was filed. Just a thought, but 2 James Nevilles might also explain some of the problems of making sense of wives, children, and Indian massacres. Jim Walker Two James could also help explain the confusion in the data, such as the names of the children, that seems to exist assuming one James.