Good morning, just stumbled into the Descendants of Adam by Robert Daughty at: http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/lily/139/home.htm The site is described as a "whimsical" tracing of his family back to Adam and Eve--using documentation from a variety of sources, mostly unlisted. But recorded as the parents of our 1612 John Neville (even though we cannot prove it but feel it in our bones) are John Neville and Gertrude Whaley. Have never heard that before, have any of you? A good weekend to you all. Tom