Hi Jan, Ryan, Diane, Barbara and all, Today's interchange of comments, starting with Jan's, about the unknown James Nevel of Wayne Co KY prompted me to look back at Diane's information she provided January 21st and 23rd on Ephraim Neavill. She had found that a James Neavill had taken out a mining permit at Galena, Jo Daviess, IL in 1826-7, John Neavill had done the same approx Jul 1827, and Alex Neavill did the same July 10,1830. Another unconnected James Neavill. Anyone have ideas about who he was? John and Alexander were brothers of my line,.... maybe this James was another brother, cousin, uncle or ..father? And then there's the Ephraim possibility in the same area. Anyway, according to later census info, John was born in TN in Dec 1807, Alexander was born in KY in Sep 1809, while their parents - unknown names - were born in VA. With the James Nevel of Wayne Co KY buying land in 1807, he's definitely not a brother of my John and Alexander. And with Enoch in that same group of land purchases, this James sounds like a good connection with Ryan's Neaveills. But then, there was also an Enoch popping up in Jo Daviess Co, at least in 1832 in the volunteers of the Blackhawk War. Also, if this James Neville in Wayne Co KY is the one who married Polly McCorkle Aug 20, 1805, as Barbara suggested, that could still keep this James in the running as John's and Alexander's father. (I lost track, does someone from this group have James and Polly as direct ancestors? ) . John named one of his sons James, while Alexander named one of his sons Enoch. It gets "curiouser and curiouser". Thanks everyone, Wayne Olsen Bonney Lake, WA