At 04:10 PM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I can't find your 8/31 post to the list (apparently lengthy) of > references on Salem, W.NJ James Nevill. > > Would you please repost it? > > Thank you and Ho! Ho! Ho! > > Peter Neville ------------------- Peter, Below is the post I sent earlier on Nevilles of NJ and PA in response to a new list member's query. Shirley supplemented with some other notes, and I have a few more references I found a couple of months ago which I haven't transcribed yet. Do you want them, too? Sounds like you are in the Christmas spirit. Have you put together all the Christmas toys yet (bolt A in slot A under latch X with the assembly facing northeast toward the winter solstice in Norway)? Jan -------------- Linda, Welcome to the list. I don't recall anyone on our list researching the Nevilles in your query, but perhaps some of us have some clues that will help. Have you also listed your query with the other Neville list whose subscribers are looking for Nevilles in England, Ireland, Autralia, etc.? A Rev. War pension listed below concerns a Henry Nevel, Senior, of Montgomery Co., PA who was in Germantown during the Rev. War. It's possible he was related to Peter or Henry Nevell found in Robert Engle's will of 1696. Where did you find Robert's will? Other records below relate to a James Nevill/Nevell who was in the West Jersey area in the 1600s (Salem and Burlington are both mentioned in the records below). James also worked for William Penn in Pennsylvania. I am going to list more notes than you probably wish to see, but I was intending to post the Salem, New Jersey Nevill notes to the list anyway. If they don't help you, maybe they will help someone else. -------------------- Selected Records from Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Applications (copied by a correspondent in Shreveport, LA 2/1989) Henry Nevel Pennsylvania #541916 Co. Montgomery, Pennsylvania, Priv., Capt. Lamar's (or LaMorris) Company Inf. Col. De Haas Regiment in Pennsylvania 1st Pennsylvania Batt. from 27 Oct. 1775 - 1776 Certificate of pension issued 26 Apr 1832 - sent to Morristown, PA Montgomery Co., Pennsylvania - Court of Com. Pleas - 16 Apl 1832 Henry Nevel, Senior, resident in said county - weaver, age 79 - marched from Germantown to Canada in 1776 - His Batt. burned Fort St. Anns a British fort on St. Laurence River in Canada - honorably discharged at Philadelphia 24 Dec 1776 - His discharge paper was taken from his house by British at battle of Germantown in which he was engaged as volunteer under Capt. Haslett Co. - Col. Curry's Regt. Reason for not making earlier application - he owned house and 10 acres - but last 10 years afflicted with gravel or stone - can't work I have no wife living - My children consist of two sons and four daughters - married and have own family to support. Lists property and debts. Earlier query about pension from Annie D. Sanders, 424 North Street, McSherrytown, PA, 21 Sep 1933. ---------------- Patents and Deeds and Other Early Records of New Jersey 1664-1703. Edited by Wm. Nelson. Gen. Pub. Co., Inc. Baltimore, 1976. Page 316 East Jersey Deeds, etc., Liber G p. 174 ...; also 1/2 of 10 undivided shares of West Jersey, heretofore granted by John Fenwick to Edmond Warner and John Edridge, with the half of all other land in West Jersey, reserved by said Fenwick for himself and called Fenwick's Colony, and 4,500 a., the residue of 10,000 a., heretofore granted by Fenwick to Edmond Warner, which last half and 4,5000 a. were bo't by grantor of said Warner. Page 341 Town Grants, New Salem, Liber A p. 16 1679 Inrolled June 6. Do [Patent]. Same to John Payne of Salem, planter, for 10 a. there, to be called Payne's Pytle, on NEUILLS ST. along the Ten Acres Creek and next to Richd Gibbs. p. 342 Town Grants, New Salem, Liber A p. 32 1685 _____. Do [Patent]. Same [Executors of John Fenwick] to JAMES NEUILL [footnote ref. #1 after his name; footnote given below] of New Salem, gentleman, and wife Creseda, for 29 acres in New Salem between John Mattox, his own plantation, the Millers Creek and a small one (rest destroyed). Page 342 footnote #1 to James Neuill name above: JAMES NEVILL was a weaver, of Stepney, London, but in the West Jersey records is usually styled "gentleman," indicating that he did not follow his trade in this country. He came over with Fenwick, and brought a wife, but apparently no children. He seems to have had a decided taste for the law, and a fondness for writing, which led Fenwick to appoint him Secretary for the Salem Colony, April 30, 1678. He was a magistrate (commissioned Oct. 26, 1679), a conveyancer and scrivener, real estate agent, and a little of everything else. He signed the West Jersey Concessions, March 3, 1676-7. In 1681-4 he was an agent of William Penn, adversely to Fenwick. One of the volumes of Salem Records is filled with miscellaneous memoranda, made by him, of leases, law suits, contracts, etc., etc., of the greatest interest and value to the local historian. [Note-Jan: On p. 341: William Penn, "Proprietor and Governour of Pennsilvania, also Proprietor of Salem Tenth, West Jersey" listed as an executor of will of John Fenwick along with Samuel Hedge, John Smith, and Richard Tindall.] Page 373 Revel's Book of Surveys [my note-Jan: Revels were also in West Jersey] p. 115 1686 June 24. Do. Do. [return of survey] by Richard Tindall, for Joshua Barkstead, of 4,984 a. on a little creek, running out of the River Caesaria. "Examined by JAMES NEVILL, Agent to Govr Penn." Page 421: West Jersey Records, Liber B, Part 1, p. 173 1686 Oct. 2 Do [power of attorney]. JAMES NEVELL of London, citizen and merchant tailor, surviving executor of Henry Stacy of London, merchant, dec'd, and one of the executors of Mary Stacy, late of Waltham Holy Crosse, Essex Co., widow, dec'd, in right of the children of said Henry and Mary, vizt.: Samuel, joint executor of his mother's will, Mary, Elizabeth and Stacy (sic), to Elias Farr, ut supra, p. 172. ["ut supra" refers to 1684 Apr. 30 Power of Attorney: Mary Stacy of Stebonheath alias Stepeny Parish, widow and executrix of Henry Stacy, to Elias Farr of Burlington, planter, to dispose of her land in West Jersey. This power of att. also found on p. 421 of book.] My note-Jan: Here we have Burlington, West Jersey (later New Jersey) associated with a Nevell reference. A reference on p. 549 to James Nevell of Stebonheath seems to indicate he was the same person as the James Nevell of West Jersey in the above footnote. Page 430 West Jersey Records, Liber B, Part 1 p. 262 1689 Aug. 12. Do. Do. [power of attorney] JAMES NAVELL of London, citizen and merchant tailor, surviving executor of Henry Stacy of London dec'd, and of Mary Stacy of Waltham Holy Crosse, Co. of Essex, widow, dec'd, to Samuel Stacy, son of Henry and Mary, now bound beyond the seas, to act as joint executor in behalf of his sisters Mary, Elizabeth and Sarah Stacy (supra, p. 173). Page 432 West Jersey Records, Liber B, Part 1 p. 274 1689-90 Feb. 24. Bond. Samuel Stacy as attorney for JAMES NAVELL, executor of his parents (supra, p. 262), to Elias Farr of Farrsfield, W. J. , for the payment of a debt. Page 547 Salem Surveys, No. 1 p. 13 1677 Oct. 6. Do. Do. [Warrant to Samuel Hedge, Surveyor General, or his Deputy Richard Hancock] for the survey of 10 acres in the Township of New Salem for JAMES NEVILL, gentleman. Page 549 Salem Surveys, No. 2 p. 7 1678 June 21. Warrant for the survey to JAMES NEVILL of Stebonheath, alias Stepney, Co. of Middlesex, weaver, as attorney for Widow Elizabeth Smith of White-Chapple, same Co., of 500 acres in Allowayes Allotment, or as near as may be on the N.E. side of Monmouth River. p. 7 1679 July 1. Return of survey of the preceding 500 acres on Allawayes Cr. along the East side of Wm. Penton and the West side of Widow Craven's plantation. p. 8 1679 May 15. Warrant for the survey to Widow Anne Craven of New Salem, of 300 acres adjoining widow Elizabeth Smith's 500 a., "as it runneth up Monmouth River." p. 9 1679 July 1. Return of the survey of the preceding 300 acres, S. Allowayes Creek, w. Elizabeth Smith. Page 549 Salem Surveys, No. 2 p. 14 1680 Sept. 13. Minutes of a special Court, JAMES NEVILL, Wm. Penton, Richard Grey, Edw. Bradway, Edw. Wade, Comrs.... Page 553 Salem Surveys, No. 2 p. 58 [no date; in 1680s section] Political Essay on the powers of law courts &c. by JAMES NEVILL, ending with: [poetry follows] Page 577 Salem Deeds, No. 2 p. 151 1684 Oct. 13. Deed. JAMES NEVILL of New Salem, W. J., yeoman, to Tobias Quainton of the same place, planter, for 16 acres there on NEVILL ST. between Charles Angelo and the road to the Miller's Bridge. Page 577 Salem Deeds, No. 2 p. 163 (Year torn off) Oct. 13. Do. [Deed]. Anna Salter of Tuckawny, Penna., widow, by her attorney JAMES NEVILL of Salem, W. J., yeoman, to Edward Bradaway of Munmouth river, W. J., yeoman, for 100 acres on Stow Creek. Page 578 Salem Deeds, No. 3 p. 12 1684 25th d. 9th m. (Nov.). Power of attorney. Joshua Berkstead of Chohanzey to JEAMES NEVILL, as agent for the settling or selling of 500 acres at Chohanzey. Page 581 Salem Deeds, No. 3 p. 148 1686 May 29. Mortgage. Roger Milton of Windham, Salem Tenth, W. J. yeoman, to JAMES NEVILL of Salem Town, planter, on 400 acres near the mouth of Salem Creek, called Windham. p. 151 1686 Nov. 11. Deed. JAMES NEVILL of Salem to Robert Ashton and Richard Darkin, both of New Castle Co., Penna., yeomen, for the tract called Windham. Page 588 Salem Deeds, No. 4 p. 103 1688 May 20. Do. [not sure what word the "do" is repeating here] Edward Champneys of Salem Town, joiner, to Francis Gibbons of Barbadoes, merchant, for 20 acres in Salem in two 10 a. lots, the first on NEVILL ST. and along the Ten Acres Creek, the other on the same street and also along said creek. p. 110 1687-8 Feb. 13. Do. [again, not sure what is repeated] JAMES NEVILL of Salem Town, W. J., yeoman, to John Paine of the same place, planter, for 16 acres, a townlot there, on the Westside of the street, adjoining Henry Salter; bought by said NEVILL and wife CRESEDA, now dec'd, of Anna Salter, widow of Henry Salter, of Salem, dec'd, April 16, 1683. p. 606 Salem Deeds, No. 6 p. 391 1694 June 6. Do. [Deed] William Salway of Pennsilvania [sic], merchant, and William Tyler of Salem Co., W.J., tanner, as guardians at litem of Margrett Salway, daughter and executrix of Thomas Sallaway, brother of William, to Willliam Hall of Salem Co., yeoman, for 16 acres, sold by JAMES NEVILL and Sarah Pile to Isaac Burges and John Snooke May 28, 1683, by them assigned to William Hall and wife Elizabeth April 10, 1684, who assigned the same to Frances and John Abbott Sept. 30, 1686, from whom James Scole received it by assignment May 1, 1689, who dying intestate the lot descended to his brother John Scole and by him was made over to the above-mentioned thomas Sallaway, from whom his daughter inherited it. [My note - Jan: I could not find a reference to 16 acres deeded from James Nevill and Sarah Pile to Isaac Burgess and John Snooke in 1683.] Page 643 NEVILL's Book of Deeds, Liber A p. 1 1684 Oct. 27. Deed. William Penn, Proprietor and governour of Pennsilvania and of Salem Tenth, W. J., by his agent JAMES NEVILL, to John Lacroy of salem Tenth, planter, for 200 acres in said Tenth, along Delaware R. and at the N. E. side of the mouth of Jeanes Creek. I did not copy any more references from this book. Jan ----------------- At 04:04 PM 8/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >-- [ From: Lisa Herdahl * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- > >I am tracing my ENGLE family line. I have been at a stand still for many >years now. Here's my problem. Robert ENGLE who came and assumed born in >Cambridgeshire, 65 miles south of London, England settled in Evesham, >Burlington County, NJ. He married Joan HORNE and had on son John Engle. >I have tons from here down. >In Robert ENGLE will he leves his wife and son everything, but in the >case that something happens he leaves it to his two brothers PETER AND >HENRY [NEVELL, NEVILL]. Robert died in 1696, so I am going to assume >that PETER and HENRY were still living in Milltan or Millbourn >Cambrigeshire, England [as stated in his will] in the year of 1696. >Finding Robert ENGLE'S parents have been the roadblock for years. >Somewhere it was found that Roberts parents were ELIZABETH ENGLAND and >JOHN ENGLE. > >The conclusion I am coming to is ELIZABETH ENGLAND [don't know if this >is maiden name] may have married ??? [possibly John] ENGLE had at least >3 sons Robert, Paul, and Jacob who at this point seems all left England >and settled in NJ and PA about 1683. ??? ENGLE may have died and >ELIZABETH married 2nd ??? NEVELL and had son's Henry and Peter NEVELL.. > >It seems the only hope I have of coming up with Robert's parents is >through Henry and Peter Nevell. The only other info I can give which may >help is that Robert joined the friends AFTER marring Joan Horne AND Paul >and Jacob settled in Germantown PA and where Mennonites, and that they >all came from what is refered as German settlement in England. > >If anyone can shed light on this, has info that will help, or has any >ideas I would really appreicate the help. Thanks in advance for any help >.. >Lisa Engle Herdahl > >