Ren and the rest: I've just returned from a 2-week vacation to Colorado. Glad the list is still functioning well. Also glad Ren was able to contact Della Morgan Martin regarding her William son of Joseph Sr., line. She did prove William as a Revolutionary War patriot, but I'm sorry to hear that there was not enough proof to link him to Joseph Sr. in order to satisfy the DAR. I am the one who established Joseph Sr. as a Rev. War patriot. I proved it for the Sons of the American Revolution back in about 1983. Later I helped a distant Neville & Hanks cousin, Josephine Adams (decd. summer of 1996) of Danville, CA to get this line proved for the DAR. Last year, another cousin, Katherine Littlefield Smith was approved as a descendant of Joseph Neville, Sr. through his daughter Mary Neville Dodson (the same ancestor I originally proved through). The addresses for SAR and DAR are: National Society SAR 1000 S. Fourth St. Louisville, KY 40203 National Society DAR 1776 D S treet, N.W. Washington, DC 20006 For the record, I joined the Sons of the American Revolution in 1981. Currently I am serving my second term as President of the Ozark Mountain Chapter, Sons of the American Revolution, located in Springfield, Missouri. If anyone wishes to join the Sons of the Am. Revolution, I'd be glad to send brochures and an application. Sincerely, Glenn Gohr (Neville list manager) ggohr01@mail.orion.org