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    1. [NEVILLE-L] Hi
    2. Le Bateman
    3. Hi I have justy joined this list, my line connects to the Nevilles through Margaret Neville. She was the daughter of Edward Neville and Katherine Howard. Edward's father was Ralph Neville born 1367 died 1415. His father and mother were Ralph Neville (1292-1367) and Alice Audley. Edward's grandparents were Randolph Lord Neville and Euphemia FitzRoger. Daughter of Robert FitzRoger 1st Lord Clavering. Randolph's parents were Robert Neville and Mary FitzRandolph. Robert's parents were Robert Neville and Isabel Bertrem. His parents were Geoffrey Neville and Joan de Monmouth. Geoffrey's parents were Robert fitz Maldred and Isabel de Neville. Now some sources say that Geoffrey took his mother's name because his did not have one, but his ancestors used the Scots naming pattern Crinan or Grimus mac Donnchaidh. Donnchaidh mac Donnchadh. etc... His maternal grandfather was Geoffrey fitz Roberts maternal grandfather was Geoffrey de Neville Lord Ashley. Robert's father was Maldred fitz Dolfin. Maldred's father was Dolfin fitz Uhtred, Dolfin's father was Uhtred fitz Maldred. Uhtred fitz Maldred's maternal grandfather was Uhtred the Bold High Reeve of Bamburg and Ealdorman of Northumbria he died in 1016. His paternal grandfather was Grimus or Crinan mac Donncaidh (975-1045). Maldred the Elder was the son of Crinan Abtane of Atholl Senesaschall of the Western Isles. he also was Priest of Dull and Dunkeld. and of the Sacred Kindred of St. Columba. If anyone on the list could help me with siblings I would appreciate it. Thanks Jacob L. Bateman III or Le Montgomery, Alabama ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97

    10/09/2001 11:30:06
    1. Re: [NEVILLE-L] Hi
    2. Sandy Morrison
    3. Hello, and welcome aboard cousin! I'm deleting the parts of your message that are your kin, and leaving the parts that are mine. Maybe we can compare notes? Sandy Edward's father was Ralph Neville born 1367 died 1415. His father > and mother were Ralph Neville (1292-1367) and Alice Audley. Edward's > grandparents were Randolph Lord Neville and Euphemia FitzRoger. "Our list" goes backward to Euphemia's parents Robert FitzRoger and Margery de la Zouche; her grandparents Roger FitzJohn (fitz Maldred?) and Isabel (? de Neville, dau of Henry de Neville, the Admiral?), her great grandparents, John FitzRobert, Lord Eure, who reportedly signed the Magna Carta, and his wife Ada Baliol. Though Balliol College says Ada never married him, so I'm not sure of that. And then, of course those who came before on both sides. >From here we descend through Ralph de Neville and Alice Audley; John de Neville and Maud de Percy; Ralph de Neville and Joan Beaufort, dau of John of Gaunt and Katherine Swynford; Richard deNeville and Alice Montague/Montacute; John de Neville and Isabel Ingoldesthorpe; Anne Neville and Sir William Stonor......Wentworths, Constables, others, then 13 or 14 generations of Wycliffe/Wyckliffe/Wickliffe, to my mother, a Cundiff. I would just like to substantiate descent from the Wickliffe's who landed in Maryland in 1636. I know they landed, but are they really "ours"... ah, there's the rub! From there backward, it's pretty much historical data. Funny to think we may have descended from nobles, when we are simply working folk! But, such is life, and history! The LDS Church has these ancient people in this order, and my sisters have much more info. I have web sites listed somewhere but if you go to GENUKI, we have a lot from there. The Nobles were kept track of very closely, and Burke's Extinct Peerage has much info. Historical Libraries and regular libraries can get you things on inter-library loan, or you can travel! We are still working our way backward through the American folk, with a few brick walls. It's tough to prove out the actual lineage here owing to fires and war, we'll have to go ferret through courthouses and records offices! We have lots of data on the ancient ones, but I haven't time to get it out today. Keep in touch. I'll be on vacation starting the 18th. Happy Hunting, Sandy > Randolph's parents were Robert Neville and Mary FitzRandolph. Robert's >parents were Robert Neville and Isabel Bertrem. His parents were >Geoffrey Neville and Joan de Monmouth. Geoffrey's parents were Robert fitz Maldred and Isabel de Neville. Now some sources say that Geoffrey took his mother's name because his did not have one, but his ancestors used the Scots naming pattern Crinan or Grimus mac Donnchaidh. Donnchaidh mac Donnchadh. etc... His maternal grandfather was Geoffrey fitz Roberts maternal grandfather was Geoffrey de Neville Lord Ashley. Robert's father was Maldred fitz Dolfin. Maldred's father was Dolfin fitz Uhtred, dolfin's father was Uhtred fitz Maldred. > Uhtred fitz Maldred's maternal grandfather was > Uhtred the Bold High Reeve of Bamburg and Ealdorman of Northumbria he died > in 1016. His paternal grandfather was Grimus or Crinan mac Donncaidh > (975-1045). Maldred the Elder was the son of Crinan Abtane of Atholl > Senesaschall of the Western Isles. he also was Priest of Dull and Dunkeld. > and of the Sacred Kindred of St. Columba. If anyone on the list could help me with siblings I would appreciate it. > Thanks > Jacob L. Bateman III or Le > Montgomery, Alabama > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today > Only $9.95 per month! > http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? > http://www.CyndisList.com

    10/11/2001 04:53:55