This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YA3.2ACEB/357.2.1 Message Board Post: Many thanks Sandra. It is believed that my great grandfather went to Italy to live - he was an artist. Not beyond the realms of possibility that we are related. Have seen photograph of Neville vault and gravestone at Christ Church Denshaw, Saddleworth, and also a stained glass window in memory of of Thomas Henry Gartside Neville (gggrandfather) -a famous Victorian/Edwardian actor. The gravestone names his father - John Garside (no 't' !) Neville, his sister - Josephine Gartside N, his mother - Mary Gartside N, and THGN. Do keep in touch. What was your grandfather's name - was it Willoughby? Colin GN