On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:07:45 -0800 REN AND JUDY NEVILLE <beschutzer@earthlink.net> writes: > I just received some more "information" from the Ark and Dove > Society relating to the descendants of John Neville. Enclosed was a > "Manuscript" written by one Robert Fleming Neville Jr. of Mobile > Alabama dated 6-22-1937 (in conjunction with George B. Neville, both > lawyers) which has been given to the Society by Ivan Bruner Nevill, Sr. > Unfortunately Mr. Flemings "manuscript" appears to be almost word > for word of the genealogy report issued by William Boogher. ..... > Another was a typed research page that showed the John Neville born > 1651-2, Northhampton Co., VA married to Elizabeth Bohanan and gave > as their proof (1) see Liber B, folio 387 and Liber 7, folio 545 and Liber 6, > folio 200: Virginia Magazine Vol. 36, ,p 74. The first references for Liber B, folio 387, Liber 7, folio 545, and Liber 6, folio 200 don't say what record books these libers are from. These citations were lifted from Boogher's report under his treatment of the Third Generation. I suspect the authors that lifted this material never checked the authenticity of the sources. Perhaps one of the citations is Virginia's Patent Book 7, as you will see below. Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, Volume Two: 1666-1695 (Richmond: Virginia State Library, 1977). p304 Patent Book No. 7 "MR. JOHN NEVILL, 246 acs., Low. Par. of Is. of Wight Co., on the W. br. of Nanzemond Riv; opposite Thomas Oglethorp's house; & adj. Christopher Wade; 30 Oct. 1686, p545. Tras. of 5 pers: Peter Morgan, James Kerryman (or Kenyman), Ellinor Dobson, Xpher. Ellyson, Henry Kerby." There is a Patent Book 6, but page 200 concerns land granted to Mr. Rich. Nelmes and another grant to Jonathan Howes. Booger says, in speaking of land belonging to the man he calls John Neville Jr. , "...Oct. 26, 1699, 250 acres in Nansemond county (liber 6, folio 220)..." Instead, this date, but not the number of acres, appears to refer to Virginia's Patent Book 9, p220. Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, Volume Three: 1695-1732 (Richmond: Virginia State Library, 1978). p30 Patent Book No. 9 "JOHN NEVILL & THOMAS MARLOR, 650 acrs., Nansemond Co., 26 Oct. 1699, p. 220. Escheated from Robert Throgmorton, dec'd., by inquisition under William Randolph, Esch'r., &c." Boogher also says John "settled with his parents in Isle of Wight county where in 1684 he purchased 92 acres of land (See liber B, folio 387)". This 92 acres was in Virginia's Patent Book 7 & I suspect he once again gave a wrong source citation. Nell Marion Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, Volume Two: 1666-1695 (Richmond: Virginia State Library, 1977). p278 Patent Book No. 7 "MR. JOHN NEVELL, 92 acs., in Low. Par. of Is. of Wight Co; adj. Mr. Robert Coleman; & Christopher Wade; 20 Apr. 1684, p. 378. Trans. of 2 pers.*" Here is what appeared in the Virginia Historical Magazine, Vol. 36 (1928), p74. As you will see there is nothing that even talks about John Neville & Elizabeth Bohanan, let alone gives proof for the above statement. VA Historical Magazine, Vol. 36 (1928) p74 "The Nevills of the upper James River possibly descended from the family of the name resident in Isle of Wight county at an earlier period. In 1731, James Nevill, of Goochland county, made a deed for a tract of land granted him in 1722. The record of a suit in the Williamsburg Chancery Court, Thomas vs. Nevill, shows that James Nevill, of St. Anne's parish, Albemarle county, whose will was dated March 7, 1742, and proved November 9, 1752, was twice married. By his first wife (1) James, who died in 1784, leaving issue: a son Lewis; (2) Mrs. Joanna Brown; (3) Mrs. Hannah Matthews; (4) Mrs. Mary Douglas. Issue by second marriage, to Lucy Thomas: (5) Cornelius Thomas (who took his mother's surname, married and had issue, John, Cornelius, Elizabeth, who married John Wood, Lucy married James Lewis, and Sally who married Thomas Moore); (7) Bethenia Thomas, who took her mother's surname, and married (in 1760 or 1761) George Hilton; (8) Martha, married Henry Hobson; (9) Elizabeth, died unmarried; (10) Judith, married Robert Mitchell, of Richmond; (11) Sally, married 1st, Michaux; 2nd, Vaughan. The widow Lucy (Thomas) Nevill married, 2nd, Abraham Childress). Captain James Nevill, the first of the family who has been traced, was a captain of militia in Goochland, 1740, etc., and one of the first justices of Albemarle in 1744...." It goes on to discuss James and his descendants. Note that the author does not claim that the lineage of James is known, but instead says he was the first of the family who has been traced, and that Nevills of the upper James River POSSIBLY descended from Isle of Wight. People tend to overlook these important qualifier words. If anyone can see how any of these references prove that John Neville, born 1651-2, Northampton Co., VA married Elizabeth Bohanan, I'd sure like to hear about it. Shirley Langdon Wilcox