Sue, We found a number of errors in what I sent you. Our work on Zachariah Nevill/Ezakiah Holt is cross checked by separate documents. This is part of the Madison County Nevill Family that I am descended from. We are still working on the Alabama Nevill Families at present, which is still a problem. I will have more on Zachariah by the end of the week. I believe he is living near Benjamin Nevill in 1840 North Carolina, know as Hezekiah Holt. I feel Lydia Nevill is living with Benjamin Nevill at this time. She is with Zachariah Nevill in 1850 Madison County TN. The Holts I will resume this fall. These families are related and close friends, I am not sure of any illegitimate children. Orphans have always been taken in by my family, the last during the great depression. I just sent the 1880 census of my John Nevill to some other family, he has a number in his house hold and none are his children. Regards, Randy L. Nevill -----Original Message----- From: Sue Thompson [mailto:sthomps61@alltel.net] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:31 AM To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt Randy: Just input. While Dr. Mann's manuscript does say that Temperance Holt married her cousin, Jesse A. Holt, this information is not true and he identifies his error later on. When he did his research he didn't have the information on James Holt (son of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt) and didn't know that James was already in Tennessee with his son, Jesse A. Holt or that Jesse A. Holt was already married to Elizabeth Davis and in Tennessee when Temperance's children were being born. Boddie used Dr. Mann's information in his genealogy sketch of the Holts but this information is wrong. No one really knows who the father of Temperance Holt's children were before she married Joseph Parker. Again, it is possible that Temperance Holt's children were illegitimate children of a Neville. If so, whoever wrote the entry in the Bible record could have been attempting to cover this fact up. That's one reason I was so excited to see your Temperance Neville Holt as being the daughter of Jesse Neville and married to Thomas Holt. If this marriage is between the Thomas Holt who was born circa 1780, son of Thomas Holt and Elizabeth Smith and Temperance Neville, born circa 1782, daughter of Jesse Neville, then this Thomas and Temperance Neville Holt might be the parents of the Ezeckiah Holt/Zachariah Nevill but then, who is Hezekiah Holt, the son of Polly Holt? As to Helen Tice's statement: "*I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt?" Hiram Holt was probably the first son of Temperance Holt. As stated in my last email, he shared in the division of the property left to Temperance's children after her death. He was not the son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt. He was named in a deed with Hilliard Holt and with Thomas Neville as a trustee. The only other Holt unit he could have been from would be Mary (Polly) Holt or Harvey Holt. Since he is named with Temperance's other children in two documents in court records, it suggests he was Temperance's son. <smile> I really need to see an actual outline of your family tree to determine the family units. The Holt and Neville families named their children identically so often that without it, I can't identify the different individuals. All of the family did not live in the same immediate area. In fact, three of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt's children moved out of Halifax County and out of NC. My Hiram did not live in the Heathsville/Brinkleyville area and neither did Adam N. Holt from what I can see posted. Because someone is not mentioned in a will is not an indication that the individual wasn't a part of the family unit. They could have already received a share of the estate or it might have been intentional that they not receive anything. Sue Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > Sue, > > We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance are > two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah Nevill > are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and > Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we are > correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. > > Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. > > Randy > > *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's > children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The > will does not name the children > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > Neither says what > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the > guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot tell > whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by comparing > such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. > in his will. > > *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary > Holt's children without naming them. > > *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). > However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) > shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son of > Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in > the division of the land ? > > *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter > (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, that > Adam > and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin knew > what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. > > *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, > and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands should > be > reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. > Julia married Samuel Young > > *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt > and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. > *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > William > Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? > > * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann > Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We > need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the petition. > We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as her > daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit > children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the > petition > > You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown died > last Dec.8 at age 98. > > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > and Jesse Jr. This information > from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > > > The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the > same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. > 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. > > *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > North Carolina, pg. 171: > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > Extr.; my son Jack > ------------ > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound > Records by > David B. Gammon > pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > > > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > guardian. > > In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina > > We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY prefixed > order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs of > the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by > Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded > according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth > by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal > number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as > equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November 1854 > F. A. Smith > W. E. Robertson > J. V. Hardee > > If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley > Holt had the following children: > Adam N. Holt > c: Archelaus Holt > Elizabeth Holt > Eglet Holt > > Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between 1800 > and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis Smith > and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to > the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved to > Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was > apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be > appreciated. > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves > The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: > Deed Book 17, Page 799: > Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: > > To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that > I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and > in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto > Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of > the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, > Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided > after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly > and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, > executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In > witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of > November 1794. Joseph Holt > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: > Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt > Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was > exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a > witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. > Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct > > This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, > Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. > > Joseph Holt > Will > > In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in body > doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. > Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life > thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now > possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow > and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also my > household and kitchen furniture. > Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to my > grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and > Temperance Parker. > Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca > Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above Harvey > Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. > Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, > made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and > thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of > A N Shearin > H. Holt. > Joseph Holt (his mark) > > State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions > Halifax County February Term 1834 > Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of > A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it was > ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the executor > therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. > Witness M H Pettway Clk > > Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the > Halifax County Courthouse. > +++++++++++++++++++ > > Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first > Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is > Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early 1600's. > The > Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a > First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown to > Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from > The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? > +++++++++++++ > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? > Halifax County? > > I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with > Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a > Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, and > later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill family, > and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy > Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. > > > In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, > Tennessee, near > Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on > Barton's > Creek, in Montgomery County, TN > > James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 > 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, > Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. > > Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o > James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph > and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. > > I disagree with this. This is how I see it. > > Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is > Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse A. > Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the > sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of these > girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the > other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. > > Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two > daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey > (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown > orphans. > > Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children-Hiram > (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. > > Mary Polly's sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A > Holt. > > Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b ca > 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are > Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. > > Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca > 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married > twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse > Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III and > Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of > Osmond.. this family ends up in Alabama..) This makes Hardy the brother of > the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. > > Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr > 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III's > brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had > daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons > Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who > grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard Burt > and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama > Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy > Nevill and Rebecca Burt..) (there are even more interconnections..) > > Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and > Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, > sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b 1812). > I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R > Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and > Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. > > I did have one other discovery.. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son > whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott's will names his brothers and > sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca > C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was reviewing > Hardy's wife Rebecca's will, and in it she names each of her children that > we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I > had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the name > of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named > Richard B. > > > This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a different > Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. 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