Sue, It will be a couple of months before we are working on the Holt family again, the Holts are first cousins of my Dad's. I have a cousin on this side that is now on vacation and I will not pursue the Holts until she returns. Briefly, this is what I have seen. Will # 487 14 Dec 1793 p. 230 Thomas Holt, son Thomas Holt Wit. Benj. Nevill Extrs. sons Joseph & Arrington 1790 Census Halifax District NC, Thomas Hoalt & Benjamin Nevill -----Original Message----- From: Sue Thompson [mailto:sthomps61@alltel.net] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:47 AM To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt Randy: Thanks for the follow-up. I need to digest your information and would appreciate your input to the following: 1 - Who was the father of the Thomas Holt who you think married Temperance Neville? Am I correct that you think that the Tempy Holt named in Jesse Neville's will is Temperance Neville Holt, daughter of Jesse Neville? 2 - Could I please see a family outline of your Neville/Holt family units for the individuals discussed below? It would help me identify the relationships you believe existed. We seem to be researching the same family lines. Sue Thompson sthomps61@alltel.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > Sue, > > We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance are > two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah Nevill > are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and > Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we are > correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. > > Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. > > Randy > > *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's > children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The > will does not name the children > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > Neither says what > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the > guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot tell > whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by comparing > such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. > in his will. > > *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary > Holt's children without naming them. > > *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). > However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) > shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son of > Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in > the division of the land ? > > *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter > (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, that > Adam > and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin knew > what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. > > *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, > and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands should > be > reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. > Julia married Samuel Young > > *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt > and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. > *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > William > Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? > > * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann > Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We > need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the petition. > We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as her > daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit > children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the > petition > > You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown died > last Dec.8 at age 98. > > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > and Jesse Jr. This information > from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > > > The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the > same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. > 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. > > *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > North Carolina, pg. 171: > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > Extr.; my son Jack > ------------ > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound > Records by > David B. Gammon > pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > > > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > guardian. > > In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina > > We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY prefixed > order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs of > the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by > Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded > according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth > by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal > number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as > equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November 1854 > F. A. Smith > W. E. Robertson > J. V. Hardee > > If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley > Holt had the following children: > Adam N. Holt > c: Archelaus Holt > Elizabeth Holt > Eglet Holt > > Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between 1800 > and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis Smith > and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to > the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved to > Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was > apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be > appreciated. > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves > The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: > Deed Book 17, Page 799: > Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: > > To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that > I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and > in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto > Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of > the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, > Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided > after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly > and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, > executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In > witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of > November 1794. Joseph Holt > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: > Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt > Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was > exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a > witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. > Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct > > This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, > Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. > > Joseph Holt > Will > > In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in body > doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. > Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life > thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now > possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow > and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also my > household and kitchen furniture. > Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to my > grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and > Temperance Parker. > Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca > Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above Harvey > Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. > Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, > made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and > thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of > A N Shearin > H. Holt. > Joseph Holt (his mark) > > State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions > Halifax County February Term 1834 > Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of > A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it was > ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the executor > therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. > Witness M H Pettway Clk > > Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the > Halifax County Courthouse. > +++++++++++++++++++ > > Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first > Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is > Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early 1600's. > The > Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a > First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown to > Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from > The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? > +++++++++++++ > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? > Halifax County? > > I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with > Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a > Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, and > later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill family, > and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy > Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. > > > In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, > Tennessee, near > Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on > Barton's > Creek, in Montgomery County, TN > > James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 > 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, > Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. > > Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o > James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph > and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. > > I disagree with this. This is how I see it. > > Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is > Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse A. > Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the > sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of these > girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the > other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. > > Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two > daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey > (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown > orphans. > > Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children-Hiram > (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. > > Mary Polly's sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A > Holt. > > Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b ca > 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are > Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. > > Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca > 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married > twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse > Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III and > Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of > Osmond.. this family ends up in Alabama..) This makes Hardy the brother of > the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. > > Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr > 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III's > brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had > daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons > Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who > grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard Burt > and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama > Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy > Nevill and Rebecca Burt..) (there are even more interconnections..) > > Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and > Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, > sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b 1812). > I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R > Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and > Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. > > I did have one other discovery.. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son > whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott's will names his brothers and > sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca > C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was reviewing > Hardy's wife Rebecca's will, and in it she names each of her children that > we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I > had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the name > of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named > Richard B. > > > This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a different > Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. There is also another > Zachariah Nevill in Alabama, whose descendents also move to Texas > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried GenConnect? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? http://www.CyndisList.com