I would be interested in joining the Ark and Dove Society. Would love to have a copy of the 1937 transcript. Should I go through Mrs. Atkinson for it? Liz Pierce liz@ultravision.net ----- Original Message ----- From: REN AND JUDY NEVILLE <beschutzer@earthlink.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] ARK AND DOVE SOCIETY > RE: Descendants of John Neville, passenger on the "Ark" or the "Dove" ( > I forgot which) > > I received a letter today along with some information on who is eligible > for membership in the Ark and Dove Society. Membership is open, and > new members are invited to join! The "Society" uses for their > membership qualifications, the following:"Neville authorities": > 1. Mrs. John Hart Wilson. "The Neville Family of England and the United > States". Typescript (1964) at MHS (I assume this means Maryland > Historical Society) > 2. Robert Fleming Neville Jr. "Neville Family of Maryland and Virginia", > Mobile Alabama, 22 June 1937. This Typescript was enclosed with their > application #353. > 3. Joseph Berry Neville "A 360 Year History of One Neville Family", > manuscript at MHS. > 4. William Fletcher Boogher. "Neville Family of Maryland and > Virginia", typescript on file at The Society of the Ark and The Dove. > 5. Blanche Adams Chapman. Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight > County, Virginia, 1647-1800. GPC. > 6. BlancheAdams Chapman "Marriages of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, > 1628-1800. GPC. > 7. Maurice Neville Blakemore. The Blakemore Family and Allied Lines. > Richmond: no pub., 1963. > > The Society recognizes those who descend from the following descendants > of John Neville for membership. > > 1. James Neville b. c 1640 > 2. Ellen Neville b. 1642, spouse of John Lambert > 3. John Neville b. 1647 > 4. William Neville > 5. and Rachel Neville who married Michael Ashford. > > The Society uses and quotes the Boogher genealogy report basically word > for word for qualifications. > > When I wrote to the Society I questioned those descending from James > Neville as James was not named in his reported fathers will nor has any > proof been offered that James Neville was a son of John Neville and > Bridget Thorsley. To that question, I was advised that the > informational package should clarify my question. Unfortunately the > "Society" did not offer any proof for James Neville being the son of > John and are very happy to accept membership applications from his > descendants. The "Society" has the Boogher report down through the > fifth generation and basically endorses those ancestors addressed by > Boogher and Joe Neville. I will go through the information furnished me > and make any additional notes to my file on World connect or if > something new jumps out, post it to the List. Meanwhile should any of > you descend from John Neville and his three "Society" recognized wives, > Bridget Thorsley, Ann (who ever she is) and Johanna Porter, and wish to > join the "Society" please write to: > > Mrs. Matthew S. Atkinson III > 6004 Roland Ave. > Baltimore, MD 21210-1112 > > web site: www.thearkandthedove.com > > Sorry, getting late and the above post is sorta messy but think you can > get the drift. Take care.....Ren > PS....I don't think I am aware of the 1937 Robert Fleming Neville Jr. > report attached to application 353. If this is a new one for you also, > let me know and I'll see if I can get a copy and reproduce it for those > interested........ > > > > > > > -- > ======================================================================== > > Ren and Judy Neville > 925-516-4976 voice/FAX > > "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... > shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > > "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear > chain'd to the ragged staff" > Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville > > Ne vile velis > "Form no mean wish" > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >
Dodson was in Lincoln County in 1830, his children were born in Alabama in the 1820s. Next to Lincoln is Franklin County, Franklin County was formed from White County. Lincoln county annexxed part of Alabama. Note: The following tax lists Nevill, Alexander, Wh-1825 Benjamin, Fr-1812 George, Mt-1789 Joseph, Wh-1825, Wh-1811 William, Wh-1811 Do you have any information on these Nevills, we have all ready checked Benjamin, George, and Joseph if I remember correctly? Perhaps Alexander or William is connected to Dodson. Regards, Randy
I've never heard of the 1937 typescript either & would be interested in a copy. Shirley Langdon Wilcox On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:54:02 -0800 REN AND JUDY NEVILLE <beschutzer@earthlink.net> writes: > RE: Descendants of John Neville, passenger on the "Ark" or the "Dove" > ( > I forgot which) > > I received a letter today along with some information on who is > eligible > for membership in the Ark and Dove Society. Membership is open, > and > new members are invited to join! The "Society" uses for their > membership qualifications, the following:"Neville authorities": > 1. Mrs. John Hart Wilson. "The Neville Family of England and the > United > States". Typescript (1964) at MHS (I assume this means Maryland > Historical Society) > 2. Robert Fleming Neville Jr. "Neville Family of Maryland and > Virginia", > Mobile Alabama, 22 June 1937. This Typescript was enclosed with > their > application #353. > 3. Joseph Berry Neville "A 360 Year History of One Neville Family", > manuscript at MHS. > 4. William Fletcher Boogher. "Neville Family of Maryland and > Virginia", typescript on file at The Society of the Ark and The > Dove. > 5. Blanche Adams Chapman. Wills and Administrations of Isle of > Wight > County, Virginia, 1647-1800. GPC. > 6. BlancheAdams Chapman "Marriages of Isle of Wight County, > Virginia, > 1628-1800. GPC. > 7. Maurice Neville Blakemore. The Blakemore Family and Allied > Lines. > Richmond: no pub., 1963. > > The Society recognizes those who descend from the following > descendants > of John Neville for membership. > > 1. James Neville b. c 1640 > 2. Ellen Neville b. 1642, spouse of John Lambert > 3. John Neville b. 1647 > 4. William Neville > 5. and Rachel Neville who married Michael Ashford. > > The Society uses and quotes the Boogher genealogy report basically > word > for word for qualifications. > > When I wrote to the Society I questioned those descending from > James > Neville as James was not named in his reported fathers will nor has > any > proof been offered that James Neville was a son of John Neville and > Bridget Thorsley. To that question, I was advised that the > informational package should clarify my question. Unfortunately > the > "Society" did not offer any proof for James Neville being the son > of > John and are very happy to accept membership applications from his > descendants. The "Society" has the Boogher report down through > the > fifth generation and basically endorses those ancestors addressed > by > Boogher and Joe Neville. I will go through the information > furnished me > and make any additional notes to my file on World connect or if > something new jumps out, post it to the List. Meanwhile should any > of > you descend from John Neville and his three "Society" recognized > wives, > Bridget Thorsley, Ann (who ever she is) and Johanna Porter, and wish > to > join the "Society" please write to: > > Mrs. Matthew S. Atkinson III > 6004 Roland Ave. > Baltimore, MD 21210-1112 > > web site: www.thearkandthedove.com > > Sorry, getting late and the above post is sorta messy but think you > can > get the drift. Take care.....Ren > PS....I don't think I am aware of the 1937 Robert Fleming Neville > Jr. > report attached to application 353. If this is a new one for you > also, > let me know and I'll see if I can get a copy and reproduce it for > those > interested........ > > > > > > > -- > ======================================================================== > > Ren and Judy Neville > 925-516-4976 voice/FAX > > "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... > shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > > "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear > chain'd to the ragged staff" > Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville > > Ne vile velis > "Form no mean wish" > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
Ren, Thanks for checking into the Ark and Dove Society. Glad you got a good response. We all know some of the earlier generations are a little bit shaky, but they haven't been proven wrong. The Robert Fleming Neville Jr. manuscript called "Neville Family of Maryland and Virginia," Mobile Alabama, 22 June 1937, is new to me. I'd be interested in a copy if anyone is able to obtain one. --Glenn Gohr archives_guy@hotmail.com
remember, without the ends, it's just plain evil...grin. ----- Original Message ----- From: <DCJ0350@aol.com> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Fw: neville/neaville/nevil descendant > Thank you > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Please do NOT send attachments to the list. Rootsweb surname lists do not accept attachments. >
RE: Descendants of John Neville, passenger on the "Ark" or the "Dove" ( I forgot which) I received a letter today along with some information on who is eligible for membership in the Ark and Dove Society. Membership is open, and new members are invited to join! The "Society" uses for their membership qualifications, the following:"Neville authorities": 1. Mrs. John Hart Wilson. "The Neville Family of England and the United States". Typescript (1964) at MHS (I assume this means Maryland Historical Society) 2. Robert Fleming Neville Jr. "Neville Family of Maryland and Virginia", Mobile Alabama, 22 June 1937. This Typescript was enclosed with their application #353. 3. Joseph Berry Neville "A 360 Year History of One Neville Family", manuscript at MHS. 4. William Fletcher Boogher. "Neville Family of Maryland and Virginia", typescript on file at The Society of the Ark and The Dove. 5. Blanche Adams Chapman. Wills and Administrations of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, 1647-1800. GPC. 6. BlancheAdams Chapman "Marriages of Isle of Wight County, Virginia, 1628-1800. GPC. 7. Maurice Neville Blakemore. The Blakemore Family and Allied Lines. Richmond: no pub., 1963. The Society recognizes those who descend from the following descendants of John Neville for membership. 1. James Neville b. c 1640 2. Ellen Neville b. 1642, spouse of John Lambert 3. John Neville b. 1647 4. William Neville 5. and Rachel Neville who married Michael Ashford. The Society uses and quotes the Boogher genealogy report basically word for word for qualifications. When I wrote to the Society I questioned those descending from James Neville as James was not named in his reported fathers will nor has any proof been offered that James Neville was a son of John Neville and Bridget Thorsley. To that question, I was advised that the informational package should clarify my question. Unfortunately the "Society" did not offer any proof for James Neville being the son of John and are very happy to accept membership applications from his descendants. The "Society" has the Boogher report down through the fifth generation and basically endorses those ancestors addressed by Boogher and Joe Neville. I will go through the information furnished me and make any additional notes to my file on World connect or if something new jumps out, post it to the List. Meanwhile should any of you descend from John Neville and his three "Society" recognized wives, Bridget Thorsley, Ann (who ever she is) and Johanna Porter, and wish to join the "Society" please write to: Mrs. Matthew S. Atkinson III 6004 Roland Ave. Baltimore, MD 21210-1112 web site: www.thearkandthedove.com Sorry, getting late and the above post is sorta messy but think you can get the drift. Take care.....Ren PS....I don't think I am aware of the 1937 Robert Fleming Neville Jr. report attached to application 353. If this is a new one for you also, let me know and I'll see if I can get a copy and reproduce it for those interested........ -- ======================================================================== Ren and Judy Neville 925-516-4976 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear chain'd to the ragged staff" Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville Ne vile velis "Form no mean wish"
I'm passing this message on to the list, and I have added Donald to the subscriber list. Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) archives_guy@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <DCJ0350@aol.com> To: <archives_guy@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:28 PM Subject: neville/neaville/nevil descendant Hello, Thanks for this outstanding web site. I am the great grandson of Mary Elizabeth Ne"a"ville ( married Cincinnatus P. Jean - married Dec 17th 1873 ) of Portsmouth "City", Va. Her parents were John and Elizabeth Neaville. In my readings of early England from 1066 to the late 1400's, I find numerous Neville's surrounding one Richard Neville ( earl of Warwick) a key player in the War (s) of the Roses and known as " the maker of King's". A brother John is noted in the mid 1400's. Can you tell me about or point me in the direction of more info regarding the early colonial family on Mary Elizabeth's paternal side. I also show a relationship to a Portsmouth Grubb family through the Neaville's. I trace my Jean roots to a ship from England to Jamestown in 1640. Any assistance would be much appreciated. A prize goal would be to find a picture of Mary Elizabeth and Cincinnatus. They both died in the 1912 / 1914 timeframe. Cincinnatus was a member of the Stonewall Camp (Portsmouth) of Confederate Veterans. Sincerely, Donald Jean
No I don't but will forward this to the Neville List in hopes that some of the Canadian List members might be able to help you....good hunting.....Ren Neville Brian Benoit wrote: > Ren: Do you have any records containing any information on the > children of Michael Neville and Johanna Kendrick, emigrated to Canada > early 1820's to 1830's. Michael born approx. 1800, and Johanna > Kendrick born ab. 1807 in Limerick Ireland. According to Family, all > birth records etc., were lost in a Church fire in Quebec or > Ontario. Thanks,Brian BenoitGGGrandson of Michael Neville -- ======================================================================== Ren and Judy Neville 925-516-4976 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear chain'd to the ragged staff" Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville Ne vile velis "Form no mean wish"
Hi Rhonda......I can not find anything to substantiate your theory but I do not have all the tools (census records etc.) I'm going to forward this on to the Neville List in hopes that one of the List members more familiar with this family might be of help and post their thoughts-records back to the Neville List. Good hunting.....Ren Neville CHARLES WUNDERLICH wrote: > Ren I've read your research on the Neville/Hopsons. Most extensive > info I've found. I need your help. I'm trying to discern if Jane > Neville (James Neville/Lucy Thomas) could be my great-great great > grandmother.I am - Rhoda Singleton PhilbyMy Father- Luther > SingletonHis parents James Singleton and Rhoda Mae BaileyRhoda Mae > Bailey's parentsRobert Bailey and Rhoda Anna ToneyRhoda Anna's > parents = James Neville Toney and Rhoda Ann AndersonJames Neville's > parents = Col Wm Toney and Jane Benson It is my understanding Jane > Benson a widow of Maj Joseph Benson married Col Toney in Rutherford Co > NC in 1803. Col Toney was born 1776 Goochland Co Va. Col Toney and > Jane raised sons William Hopson and James Neville - names in your > pedigrees- as well as Washington and dau Caroline.. I'm trying to > find Jane's maiden name before she married Major Joseph Benson. Your > line certainly sounds like a match with mine by names/dates/places. > But, I see Jane listed in your material as marrying a James Smith in > 1792. Do you know if this is fact and what happened to that > marriage? Perhaps Major Benson was her spouse No 2 then Col Toney was > #3.If you could point me to a resource I could research I'd be most > appreciative. Thank you so much. Rhoda at email wunderphil@msn.com -- ======================================================================== Ren and Judy Neville 925-516-4976 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear chain'd to the ragged staff" Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville Ne vile velis "Form no mean wish"
Hi , I have some info , I hope some one can make a connection to them . Louise Neville born Nov. 17th , 1869 NY City . Died Oct. 15th ,1916 Queens , Long Island city Married to: Patrick White born 1857 NY City , died 1916 Long Island city Children are ; Harry born Sept. 12 th 1887 NY City , died April 12th 1923 never married . George Grace Irene Evelyn Louise If any one has information , it would be nice, Joan
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YA3.2ACEB/275.277.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. Do you have any information on him? Please e-mail me at fwstoner@aol.com.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Nevill, Nevils Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YA3.2ACEB/275.277.1.3.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for responding to my message about Obediah. We have previously corresponded about the similarities between the Obediah Nevils in Barnwell Co., South Carolina and yours in England (Neville List). Both men were about the same age at the same time and both married women named Elizabeth.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Neville, Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YA3.2ACEB/343 Message Board Post: I would like to exchange information with descendents of Thomas R. Neville, born about 1785 and died abt. 1860, who lived in the Heathsville area of Halifax County, NC. I am particularly interested in the relationship between his family and the family of George Green, Sr.. Email: nj3568@mindspring.com
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Talbot Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YA3.2ACEB/275.277.1.3 Message Board Post: Hi My Obadiah Nevil married Jane Elizabeth Talbot 20 Oct 1789 in Warmington Warwickshire. They also died there. If you go to GenCircles, you can find the information by searching for Obadiah Nevil. Cheers John Kingswood South Australia
Ren, Finding out that Morgan Neville worked on the Mississippi River probably answers a question I asked you a year or two (or maybe five) ago concerning an account in Jefferson Co., MS. It seems likely Morgan was stopping/staying in Jefferson Co., MS during his travels on the Mississippi. Residents of Southeast Mississippi Territory (5 vols.) by > Jean Strickland (P.O. Box 5147, Moss Point, MS 39563): > > Jefferson Co. Store ledger for MORGAN NEVELLE, May 30, 1811. (Found in Vol. > 2a and 2b.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "REN AND JUDY NEVILLE" <beschutzer@earthlink.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Re: Morgan Neville > Donna........Morgan Neville is the eldest son of Presley Neville, son of gen. John Neville. This is my line. He died in Cincinnati in 1839, was a journalist, writer and friend of Layafette. If you are interested in some of his life, click on my family site > at World connect below, type in Morgan Neville and read what is on file. Obvioiusly I would be interested in the name of the book plus what was said about him for family records. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville > > Donna Browning wrote: > > > >Hi, Everyone. Does anyone know which Neville Family Morgan Neville is connected to? I came across his name in a book about men who worked on the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers from 1800 through the steamboat era, evidently he was a journalist of the period > > who wrote about these rivermen. Donna > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > > Have you tried GenConnect? > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > > -- > ======================================================================== > Ren and Judy Neville > 925-516-4976 voice/FAX > > "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... > shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > > "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear > chain'd to the ragged staff" > Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville > > Ne vile velis > "Form no mean wish" > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > You may contact the Neville list manager at: > NEVILLE-admin@rootsweb.com > >
Michelle, Have you had time to look into the Montgomery Co., TN Elliotts since we last corresponded? I think I have noted before that Faulkner Elliott was a name found in early 1800s Montgomery Co. records. George Nevill (Fauquier Co., VA>maybe Rutherford Co., NC>Greenville Co., SC>Montgomery Co., TN), the probable brother of Joseph Neville who married Mary Elliot, lived in the same neighborhood as Faulkners and Elliotts (his "step-cousins"?). It's possible Faulkner Elliott may have been one of Mary Faulkner Elliott Neville's children by her first marriage. If he was, the probate of his mother's estate or his estate might give clues to who his stepbrothers and sisters were. If you have not found a probate of her estate in VA, you might find references to it in Montgomery Co., TN, if any of the Elliotts in that county are her descendants. Also, you might want to look in Robertson Co., TN. Faulkner Elliott lived very near that county and may have moved over the county line. I know we discuss this about once a year, so please pardon me if I sound like a broken record:-) I really have intended to do some look-ups on these families in the Clarksville-Montgomery Co. library family files, but when I am there, I am usually spending time with our grandson. The library does have good family files and will copy them by request. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <RobertUle@aol.com> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Re: Elliott Research > Actually, if you have the names of Mary Faulkner Elliott's children, would > you post them to the Neville list? I've not been able to find them in > several years of searching. (Mary is the name I'm looking for, out of 12 > children, there probably is at least one Mary--and maybe she's the one who > married Thomas "second fork" Dodson, therefore Joseph Neville Sr.--who > married Mary Faulkner Elliot-- could be Thomas Second Fork's father-in-law > through a step daughter. If you can understand the preceeding sentence, you > can understand all the Dodson-Neville convolutions over which we've been > struggling for years!) :-) > > Thanks, > > Michelle Ule > Northern CA > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Please do NOT send attachments to the list. Rootsweb surname lists do not accept attachments. > >
Actually, if you have the names of Mary Faulkner Elliott's children, would you post them to the Neville list? I've not been able to find them in several years of searching. (Mary is the name I'm looking for, out of 12 children, there probably is at least one Mary--and maybe she's the one who married Thomas "second fork" Dodson, therefore Joseph Neville Sr.--who married Mary Faulkner Elliot-- could be Thomas Second Fork's father-in-law through a step daughter. If you can understand the preceeding sentence, you can understand all the Dodson-Neville convolutions over which we've been struggling for years!) :-) Thanks, Michelle Ule Northern CA
My name is richard edward neville,dob/6/17/45. father was edward richard neville jr. born in 1915. in warwick R.I..he had a sister virginia dob unknown. his father was edward richard, dob unknown. he was from england or ireland and was a military man. his wife was julia neville nee barry. due to the divorce of my parents when i was very young, i have very little info.any hints? thanks
Michelle.....these are the names of the children I have for Thomas Elliott and Mary Fallkner, Ellis, Martin and Curtis. I do not have any dates or places, in fact, as usual, I would just have made a name entry to file with hopes of adding information when found. What a can of worms, how about a progress report! .....Ren Disclaimer: As I recall, there is no proof of any of this............. -- ======================================================================== Ren and Judy Neville 925-516-4976 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear chain'd to the ragged staff" Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville Ne vile velis "Form no mean wish"