Randy: Thanks for the information. I totally understand the frustration of trying to deal with multiple given names repeated in a line. I also understand that your research is a work in progress like most of mine. When you get yours to the point where you can share a tree structure, please let me know. I'm focused on the Holt side of the children named in Jesse Neville's will and would be very much interested in any information on their descendants/locations. Thanks. Sue Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:25 PM Subject: RE: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > Sue, > > We found a number of errors in what I sent you. Our work on Zachariah > Nevill/Ezakiah Holt is cross checked by separate documents. This is part of > the Madison County Nevill Family that I am descended from. We are still > working on the Alabama Nevill Families at present, which is still a problem. > I will have more on Zachariah by the end of the week. I believe he is living > near Benjamin Nevill in 1840 North Carolina, know as Hezekiah Holt. I feel > Lydia Nevill is living with Benjamin Nevill at this time. She is with > Zachariah Nevill in 1850 Madison County TN. The Holts I will resume this > fall. These families are related and close friends, I am not sure of any > illegitimate children. Orphans have always been taken in by my family, the > last during the great depression. I just sent the 1880 census of my John > Nevill to some other family, he has a number in his house hold and none are > his children. > > Regards, Randy L. Nevill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sue Thompson [mailto:sthomps61@alltel.net] > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:31 AM > To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance > Holt > > > Randy: > > Just input. While Dr. Mann's manuscript does say that Temperance Holt > married her cousin, Jesse A. Holt, this information is not true and he > identifies his error later on. When he did his research he didn't have the > information on James Holt (son of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt) and didn't > know that James was already in Tennessee with his son, Jesse A. Holt or that > Jesse A. Holt was already married to Elizabeth Davis and in Tennessee when > Temperance's children were being born. Boddie used Dr. Mann's information > in his genealogy sketch of the Holts but this information is wrong. No one > really knows who the father of Temperance Holt's children were before she > married Joseph Parker. Again, it is possible that Temperance Holt's > children were illegitimate children of a Neville. If so, whoever wrote the > entry in the Bible record could have been attempting to cover this fact up. > That's one reason I was so excited to see your Temperance Neville Holt as > being the daughter of Jesse Neville and married to Thomas Holt. If this > marriage is between the Thomas Holt who was born circa 1780, son of Thomas > Holt and Elizabeth Smith and Temperance Neville, born circa 1782, daughter > of Jesse Neville, then this Thomas and Temperance Neville Holt might be the > parents of the Ezeckiah Holt/Zachariah Nevill but then, who is Hezekiah > Holt, the son of Polly Holt? > > > As to Helen Tice's statement: "*I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have > no reason to think he could > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt?" > > Hiram Holt was probably the first son of Temperance Holt. As stated in my > last email, he shared in the division of the property left to Temperance's > children after her death. He was not the son of William Holt and Polly > Brinkley Holt. He was named in a deed with Hilliard Holt and with Thomas > Neville as a trustee. The only other Holt unit he could have been from > would be Mary (Polly) Holt or Harvey Holt. Since he is named with > Temperance's other children in two documents in court records, it suggests > he was Temperance's son. > > <smile> I really need to see an actual outline of your family tree to > determine the family units. The Holt and Neville families named their > children identically so often that without it, I can't identify the > different individuals. > > All of the family did not live in the same immediate area. In fact, three > of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt's children moved out of Halifax County and > out of NC. My Hiram did not live in the Heathsville/Brinkleyville area and > neither did Adam N. Holt from what I can see posted. Because someone is > not mentioned in a will is not an indication that the individual wasn't a > part of the family unit. They could have already received a share of the > estate or it might have been intentional that they not receive anything. > > Sue Thompson > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> > To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:42 PM > Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > > > > Sue, > > > > We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance > are > > two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah > Nevill > > are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and > > Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we > are > > correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. > > > > Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. > > > > Randy > > > > *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's > > children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The > > will does not name the children > > > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, > Malinda > > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > > Neither says what > > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of > Joseph > > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > > > * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the > > guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot > tell > > whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by > comparing > > such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. > > in his will. > > > > *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary > > Holt's children without naming them. > > > > *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). > > However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) > > shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son > of > > Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in > > the division of the land ? > > > > *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter > > (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, > that > > Adam > > and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin > knew > > what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. > > > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > > indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph > Parker > > > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > > and > > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. > > > > *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, > > and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands > should > > be > > reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. > > Julia married Samuel Young > > > > *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt > > and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. > > *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could > > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > > William > > Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? > > > > * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann > > Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We > > need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the > petition. > > We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as > her > > daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit > > children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the > > petition > > > > You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown > died > > last Dec.8 at age 98. > > > > > > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This > > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > > and Jesse Jr. This information > > from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > > > > > > The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the > > same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. > > 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. > > > > *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North > > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > > North Carolina, pg. 171: > > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land > and > > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names > not > > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > > Extr.; my son Jack > > ------------ > > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant > Loose > > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans > of > > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > > > Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant > Bound > > Records by > > David B. Gammon > > pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > > > > > > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > > guardian. > > > > In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina > > > > We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY > prefixed > > order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs > of > > the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by > > Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded > > according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth > > by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal > > number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as > > equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November > 1854 > > F. A. Smith > > W. E. Robertson > > J. V. Hardee > > > > If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley > > Holt had the following children: > > Adam N. Holt > > c: Archelaus Holt > > Elizabeth Holt > > Eglet Holt > > > > Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between > 1800 > > and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis > Smith > > and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to > > the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved > to > > Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was > > apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be > > appreciated. > > > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > > and > > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves > > The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: > > Deed Book 17, Page 799: > > Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: > > > > To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that > > I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and > > in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto > > Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of > > the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, > > Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided > > after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly > > and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, > > executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In > > witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of > > November 1794. Joseph Holt > > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: > > Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt > > Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was > > exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a > > witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. > > Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct > > > > This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, > > Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. > > > > Joseph Holt > > Will > > > > In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in > body > > doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. > > Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life > > thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now > > possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow > > and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also > my > > household and kitchen furniture. > > Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to > my > > grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and > > Temperance Parker. > > Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca > > Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above > Harvey > > Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. > > Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, > > made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and > > thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of > > A N Shearin > > H. Holt. > > Joseph Holt (his mark) > > > > State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions > > Halifax County February Term 1834 > > Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > > Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath > of > > A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it > was > > ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the > executor > > therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. > > Witness M H Pettway Clk > > > > Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the > > Halifax County Courthouse. > > +++++++++++++++++++ > > > > Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first > > Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is > > Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early > 1600's. > > The > > Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a > > First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown > to > > Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from > > The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! > Does > > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? > > +++++++++++++ > > > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > > Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! > Does > > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? > > Halifax County? > > > > I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with > > Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a > > Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, > and > > later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill > family, > > and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy > > Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. > > > > > > In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, > > Tennessee, near > > Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on > > Barton's > > Creek, in Montgomery County, TN > > > > James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 > > 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, > > Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. > > > > Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o > > James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph > > and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. > > > > I disagree with this. This is how I see it. > > > > Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is > > Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse > A. > > Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the > > sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of > these > > girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the > > other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. > > > > Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two > > daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey > > (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown > > orphans. > > > > Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children-Hiram > > (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. > > > > Mary Polly's sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A > > Holt. > > > > Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b > ca > > 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are > > Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. > > > > Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca > > 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married > > twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse > > Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III > and > > Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of > > Osmond.. this family ends up in Alabama..) This makes Hardy the brother of > > the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. > > > > Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr > > 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III's > > brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had > > daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons > > Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who > > grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard > Burt > > and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama > > Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy > > Nevill and Rebecca Burt..) (there are even more interconnections..) > > > > Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and > > Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, > > sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b > 1812). > > I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R > > Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and > > Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. > > > > I did have one other discovery.. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son > > whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott's will names his brothers and > > sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca > > C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was > reviewing > > Hardy's wife Rebecca's will, and in it she names each of her children that > > we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I > > had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the > name > > of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named > > Richard B. > > > > > > This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a > different > > Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. There is also another > > Zachariah Nevill in Alabama, whose descendents also move to Texas > > > > > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > > Have you tried GenConnect? > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you searched the U.S. GenWeb for your counties of interest? > http://www.usgenweb.org/ >

JACKSON COUNTY, TN - COURT - Chancery/Circuit Loose Records Index A - D 1891 Clark, B. D. & P. T. exers of Nevil, Alexander [Nevil, Alex] http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+456279898696+ F This was found on the search engine for the TN USGenWeb Site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/tnsearch.htm Lots of other Nevil/Nevill/Neville/Nevell listings are found in various counties in Tennessee. These listings may be a lead for someone researching in Tennessee. I assume the other US GenWeb Sites have similar search engines. --Glenn Gohr archives_guy@hotmail.com

RE: Joseph Neville d. 3-4-1819, will dated 9-4-1817.... Darn......got about 75% of Joe's will in my notes then this darn machine decided to exit for dinner and for some reason what I had typed went with it. It's fun to try and figure out what else I lost, but in my case, I don't need your help, I can answer that one myself. I'm wondering if one of you has his will in your computer and can cut-paste and send it to me thus alleviating the agony of having to to figure out which slave went to whom....thank you Ren Neville (beschutzer@earthlink.net) -- ======================================================================== Ren and Judy Neville 925-516-4976 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear chain'd to the ragged staff" Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville Ne vile velis "Form no mean wish"

Sue, We are having a problem with connecting to the North Carolina Nevill Families. The Holts that are descended from one of these Holt Families married after 1920, I don't have the exact date. I don't know exactly where they are on this now. The Nevill, I am descended from is Nicholas Thomas Nevill he was born about 1823 in Alabama. His father is Dodson Nevill b. 1790, possibly in North Carolina. Living with him in 1840 is Richard Nevill b. 1803 North Carolina & his wife Sarah b. 1803 N. C. Richard & Dodson are in Madison County TN in 1840. Dodson is in Lincoln County, TN in 1830. In the adjoining county is Benjamin, Pleasant and some other Nevills, none are closely related but are from North Carolina. 1850 Madison County, TN =Zachariah Nevill b. 1825 his wife, Eliza b. 1826 NC, Lydia b. 1842 NC, Cuzzy M. b.1844 NC, Griffin T. b. 1848 TN, Jane Statum b. 1829 NC, James Statum b.1849 TN, Lydia Nevill b. 1775 NC are in the home of Zachariah Nevill in 1850 Madison County. They are living next to Richard Nevill in 1850 Madison County. Regards, Randy Lee Nevill -----Original Message----- From: Randy L. Nevill [mailto:liven@txucom.net] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 10:26 PM To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt Sue, We found a number of errors in what I sent you. Our work on Zachariah Nevill/Ezakiah Holt is cross checked by separate documents. This is part of the Madison County Nevill Family that I am descended from. We are still working on the Alabama Nevill Families at present, which is still a problem. I will have more on Zachariah by the end of the week. I believe he is living near Benjamin Nevill in 1840 North Carolina, know as Hezekiah Holt. I feel Lydia Nevill is living with Benjamin Nevill at this time. She is with Zachariah Nevill in 1850 Madison County TN. The Holts I will resume this fall. These families are related and close friends, I am not sure of any illegitimate children. Orphans have always been taken in by my family, the last during the great depression. I just sent the 1880 census of my John Nevill to some other family, he has a number in his house hold and none are his children. Regards, Randy L. Nevill -----Original Message----- From: Sue Thompson [mailto:sthomps61@alltel.net] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:31 AM To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt Randy: Just input. While Dr. Mann's manuscript does say that Temperance Holt married her cousin, Jesse A. Holt, this information is not true and he identifies his error later on. When he did his research he didn't have the information on James Holt (son of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt) and didn't know that James was already in Tennessee with his son, Jesse A. Holt or that Jesse A. Holt was already married to Elizabeth Davis and in Tennessee when Temperance's children were being born. Boddie used Dr. Mann's information in his genealogy sketch of the Holts but this information is wrong. No one really knows who the father of Temperance Holt's children were before she married Joseph Parker. Again, it is possible that Temperance Holt's children were illegitimate children of a Neville. If so, whoever wrote the entry in the Bible record could have been attempting to cover this fact up. That's one reason I was so excited to see your Temperance Neville Holt as being the daughter of Jesse Neville and married to Thomas Holt. If this marriage is between the Thomas Holt who was born circa 1780, son of Thomas Holt and Elizabeth Smith and Temperance Neville, born circa 1782, daughter of Jesse Neville, then this Thomas and Temperance Neville Holt might be the parents of the Ezeckiah Holt/Zachariah Nevill but then, who is Hezekiah Holt, the son of Polly Holt? As to Helen Tice's statement: "*I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt?" Hiram Holt was probably the first son of Temperance Holt. As stated in my last email, he shared in the division of the property left to Temperance's children after her death. He was not the son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt. He was named in a deed with Hilliard Holt and with Thomas Neville as a trustee. The only other Holt unit he could have been from would be Mary (Polly) Holt or Harvey Holt. Since he is named with Temperance's other children in two documents in court records, it suggests he was Temperance's son. <smile> I really need to see an actual outline of your family tree to determine the family units. The Holt and Neville families named their children identically so often that without it, I can't identify the different individuals. All of the family did not live in the same immediate area. In fact, three of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt's children moved out of Halifax County and out of NC. My Hiram did not live in the Heathsville/Brinkleyville area and neither did Adam N. Holt from what I can see posted. Because someone is not mentioned in a will is not an indication that the individual wasn't a part of the family unit. They could have already received a share of the estate or it might have been intentional that they not receive anything. Sue Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > Sue, > > We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance are > two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah Nevill > are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and > Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we are > correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. > > Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. > > Randy > > *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's > children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The > will does not name the children > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > Neither says what > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the > guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot tell > whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by comparing > such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. > in his will. > > *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary > Holt's children without naming them. > > *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). > However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) > shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son of > Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in > the division of the land ? > > *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter > (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, that > Adam > and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin knew > what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. > > *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, > and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands should > be > reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. > Julia married Samuel Young > > *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt > and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. > *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > William > Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? > > * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann > Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We > need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the petition. > We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as her > daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit > children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the > petition > > You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown died > last Dec.8 at age 98. > > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > and Jesse Jr. This information > from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > > > The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the > same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. > 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. > > *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > North Carolina, pg. 171: > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > Extr.; my son Jack > ------------ > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound > Records by > David B. Gammon > pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > > > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > guardian. > > In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina > > We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY prefixed > order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs of > the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by > Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded > according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth > by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal > number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as > equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November 1854 > F. A. Smith > W. E. Robertson > J. V. Hardee > > If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley > Holt had the following children: > Adam N. Holt > c: Archelaus Holt > Elizabeth Holt > Eglet Holt > > Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between 1800 > and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis Smith > and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to > the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved to > Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was > apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be > appreciated. > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves > The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: > Deed Book 17, Page 799: > Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: > > To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that > I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and > in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto > Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of > the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, > Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided > after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly > and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, > executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In > witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of > November 1794. Joseph Holt > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: > Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt > Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was > exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a > witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. > Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct > > This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, > Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. > > Joseph Holt > Will > > In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in body > doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. > Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life > thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now > possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow > and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also my > household and kitchen furniture. > Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to my > grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and > Temperance Parker. > Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca > Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above Harvey > Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. > Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, > made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and > thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of > A N Shearin > H. Holt. > Joseph Holt (his mark) > > State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions > Halifax County February Term 1834 > Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of > A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it was > ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the executor > therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. > Witness M H Pettway Clk > > Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the > Halifax County Courthouse. > +++++++++++++++++++ > > Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first > Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is > Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early 1600's. > The > Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a > First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown to > Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from > The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? > +++++++++++++ > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? > Halifax County? > > I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with > Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a > Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, and > later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill family, > and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy > Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. > > > In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, > Tennessee, near > Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on > Barton's > Creek, in Montgomery County, TN > > James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 > 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, > Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. > > Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o > James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph > and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. > > I disagree with this. This is how I see it. > > Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is > Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse A. > Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the > sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of these > girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the > other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. > > Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two > daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey > (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown > orphans. > > Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children-Hiram > (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. > > Mary Polly's sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A > Holt. > > Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b ca > 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are > Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. > > Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca > 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married > twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse > Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III and > Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of > Osmond.. this family ends up in Alabama..) This makes Hardy the brother of > the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. > > Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr > 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III's > brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had > daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons > Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who > grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard Burt > and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama > Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy > Nevill and Rebecca Burt..) (there are even more interconnections..) > > Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and > Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, > sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b 1812). > I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R > Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and > Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. > > I did have one other discovery.. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son > whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott's will names his brothers and > sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca > C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was reviewing > Hardy's wife Rebecca's will, and in it she names each of her children that > we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I > had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the name > of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named > Richard B. > > > This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a different > Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. There is also another > Zachariah Nevill in Alabama, whose descendents also move to Texas > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried GenConnect? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== Have you searched the U.S. GenWeb for your counties of interest? http://www.usgenweb.org/

Sue, On the old census prior to 1850, individuals are difficult to figure out. This is the problem we are having with North Carolina and common names to different families. The McNeill family below use the McNeel & McNeil spelling in later records. Regards, Randy John Nevill 26 Elza Nevill, wife 18 John McNeill, brother in law 28 Mary Nevill McNeill, sister, 30 Jimmmie McNeill m. 5 nephew John McNeill, 3 nephew Wiley McNeill 8/12 nephew

8 Catherine A. Parsons W F Feb. 22, 1858 Horshoe Dropsy of Chest 49y, 7m, 29d John & M. Neville Hardy Co. This Catherine Parsons (w/o James William Parsons) was a daughter of John Neville, s/o Gen. Joseph of Hardy co. Va. She was born 1809, and died Feb.22, 1858 in Randolph co. now Horshoe Run, Tucker co. WVa. (this excerpt is from the" History of Tucker co." by Fansler. John also had a daughter Mary Neville who married a Parsons, and a daughter Agnes "Nancy" Neville who also married a Parsons. They lived in Randolph co. Va. now Tucker co. WVa. Here is an excerpt from Gen. Joseph Neville's will of 1819 Hardy co........ To my grandaughter Mary Neville, I give one negro Gairl of the Name of Jane, her and her increase, if any to the said Mary Neville and the heirs of her body, if no such heirs to descend to her sisters or their representatives - To my Granddaughter Nancy Parsons, I give one Negro Garil named Violet on the same conditions as the one given to my Grandaughter Mary Neville above. Are these granddaughters that Joseph gave slaves to daughters of John Neville son of Joseph? He had daughters Mary and Nancy. He also had a daughter Catherine who would have been only 10 yrs. old at the time of the will. I also saw on the internet that Mary Neville did not mary Jonathan Parsons until Dec.18, 1829, if that is true then she would have still been Mary Neville at the time the will was read. Also, I saw that Agnes "Nancy" Neville married Feb. 27, 1816, if that is the case then she would have been Nancy Parsons at the will reading. Catherine Neville would have been too young. My Elizabeth who I believe to be a daughter of John Neville would be 28 at the time and married to her second husband . She was left out of this will it would seem. The will was written in and witnessed by Elizabeth's husband David Gilmore on Sept. 4, 1817, the day that Elizabeth and David married in Hardy co.. I wonder if they may have gotten a wedding present in lieu of the will, just a th! ought!!!

Sue, We found a number of errors in what I sent you. Our work on Zachariah Nevill/Ezakiah Holt is cross checked by separate documents. This is part of the Madison County Nevill Family that I am descended from. We are still working on the Alabama Nevill Families at present, which is still a problem. I will have more on Zachariah by the end of the week. I believe he is living near Benjamin Nevill in 1840 North Carolina, know as Hezekiah Holt. I feel Lydia Nevill is living with Benjamin Nevill at this time. She is with Zachariah Nevill in 1850 Madison County TN. The Holts I will resume this fall. These families are related and close friends, I am not sure of any illegitimate children. Orphans have always been taken in by my family, the last during the great depression. I just sent the 1880 census of my John Nevill to some other family, he has a number in his house hold and none are his children. Regards, Randy L. Nevill -----Original Message----- From: Sue Thompson [mailto:sthomps61@alltel.net] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 8:31 AM To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt Randy: Just input. While Dr. Mann's manuscript does say that Temperance Holt married her cousin, Jesse A. Holt, this information is not true and he identifies his error later on. When he did his research he didn't have the information on James Holt (son of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt) and didn't know that James was already in Tennessee with his son, Jesse A. Holt or that Jesse A. Holt was already married to Elizabeth Davis and in Tennessee when Temperance's children were being born. Boddie used Dr. Mann's information in his genealogy sketch of the Holts but this information is wrong. No one really knows who the father of Temperance Holt's children were before she married Joseph Parker. Again, it is possible that Temperance Holt's children were illegitimate children of a Neville. If so, whoever wrote the entry in the Bible record could have been attempting to cover this fact up. That's one reason I was so excited to see your Temperance Neville Holt as being the daughter of Jesse Neville and married to Thomas Holt. If this marriage is between the Thomas Holt who was born circa 1780, son of Thomas Holt and Elizabeth Smith and Temperance Neville, born circa 1782, daughter of Jesse Neville, then this Thomas and Temperance Neville Holt might be the parents of the Ezeckiah Holt/Zachariah Nevill but then, who is Hezekiah Holt, the son of Polly Holt? As to Helen Tice's statement: "*I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt?" Hiram Holt was probably the first son of Temperance Holt. As stated in my last email, he shared in the division of the property left to Temperance's children after her death. He was not the son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt. He was named in a deed with Hilliard Holt and with Thomas Neville as a trustee. The only other Holt unit he could have been from would be Mary (Polly) Holt or Harvey Holt. Since he is named with Temperance's other children in two documents in court records, it suggests he was Temperance's son. <smile> I really need to see an actual outline of your family tree to determine the family units. The Holt and Neville families named their children identically so often that without it, I can't identify the different individuals. All of the family did not live in the same immediate area. In fact, three of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt's children moved out of Halifax County and out of NC. My Hiram did not live in the Heathsville/Brinkleyville area and neither did Adam N. Holt from what I can see posted. Because someone is not mentioned in a will is not an indication that the individual wasn't a part of the family unit. They could have already received a share of the estate or it might have been intentional that they not receive anything. Sue Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > Sue, > > We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance are > two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah Nevill > are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and > Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we are > correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. > > Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. > > Randy > > *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's > children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The > will does not name the children > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > Neither says what > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the > guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot tell > whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by comparing > such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. > in his will. > > *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary > Holt's children without naming them. > > *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). > However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) > shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son of > Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in > the division of the land ? > > *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter > (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, that > Adam > and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin knew > what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. > > *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, > and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands should > be > reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. > Julia married Samuel Young > > *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt > and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. > *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > William > Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? > > * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann > Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We > need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the petition. > We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as her > daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit > children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the > petition > > You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown died > last Dec.8 at age 98. > > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > and Jesse Jr. This information > from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > > > The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the > same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. > 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. > > *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > North Carolina, pg. 171: > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > Extr.; my son Jack > ------------ > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound > Records by > David B. Gammon > pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > > > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > guardian. > > In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina > > We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY prefixed > order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs of > the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by > Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded > according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth > by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal > number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as > equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November 1854 > F. A. Smith > W. E. Robertson > J. V. Hardee > > If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley > Holt had the following children: > Adam N. Holt > c: Archelaus Holt > Elizabeth Holt > Eglet Holt > > Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between 1800 > and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis Smith > and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to > the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved to > Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was > apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be > appreciated. > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves > The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: > Deed Book 17, Page 799: > Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: > > To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that > I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and > in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto > Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of > the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, > Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided > after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly > and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, > executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In > witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of > November 1794. Joseph Holt > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: > Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt > Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was > exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a > witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. > Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct > > This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, > Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. > > Joseph Holt > Will > > In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in body > doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. > Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life > thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now > possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow > and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also my > household and kitchen furniture. > Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to my > grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and > Temperance Parker. > Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca > Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above Harvey > Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. > Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, > made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and > thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of > A N Shearin > H. Holt. > Joseph Holt (his mark) > > State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions > Halifax County February Term 1834 > Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of > A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it was > ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the executor > therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. > Witness M H Pettway Clk > > Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the > Halifax County Courthouse. > +++++++++++++++++++ > > Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first > Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is > Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early 1600's. > The > Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a > First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown to > Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from > The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? > +++++++++++++ > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? > Halifax County? > > I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with > Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a > Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, and > later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill family, > and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy > Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. > > > In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, > Tennessee, near > Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on > Barton's > Creek, in Montgomery County, TN > > James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 > 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, > Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. > > Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o > James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph > and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. > > I disagree with this. This is how I see it. > > Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is > Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse A. > Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the > sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of these > girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the > other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. > > Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two > daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey > (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown > orphans. > > Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children-Hiram > (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. > > Mary Polly's sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A > Holt. > > Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b ca > 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are > Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. > > Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca > 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married > twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse > Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III and > Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of > Osmond.. this family ends up in Alabama..) This makes Hardy the brother of > the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. > > Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr > 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III's > brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had > daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons > Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who > grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard Burt > and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama > Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy > Nevill and Rebecca Burt..) (there are even more interconnections..) > > Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and > Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, > sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b 1812). > I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R > Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and > Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. > > I did have one other discovery.. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son > whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott's will names his brothers and > sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca > C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was reviewing > Hardy's wife Rebecca's will, and in it she names each of her children that > we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I > had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the name > of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named > Richard B. > > > This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a different > Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. 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Sue, It will be a couple of months before we are working on the Holt family again, the Holts are first cousins of my Dad's. I have a cousin on this side that is now on vacation and I will not pursue the Holts until she returns. Briefly, this is what I have seen. Will # 487 14 Dec 1793 p. 230 Thomas Holt, son Thomas Holt Wit. Benj. Nevill Extrs. sons Joseph & Arrington 1790 Census Halifax District NC, Thomas Hoalt & Benjamin Nevill -----Original Message----- From: Sue Thompson [mailto:sthomps61@alltel.net] Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:47 AM To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt Randy: Thanks for the follow-up. I need to digest your information and would appreciate your input to the following: 1 - Who was the father of the Thomas Holt who you think married Temperance Neville? Am I correct that you think that the Tempy Holt named in Jesse Neville's will is Temperance Neville Holt, daughter of Jesse Neville? 2 - Could I please see a family outline of your Neville/Holt family units for the individuals discussed below? It would help me identify the relationships you believe existed. We seem to be researching the same family lines. Sue Thompson sthomps61@alltel.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > Sue, > > We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance are > two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah Nevill > are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and > Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we are > correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. > > Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. > > Randy > > *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's > children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The > will does not name the children > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > Neither says what > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the > guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot tell > whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by comparing > such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. > in his will. > > *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary > Holt's children without naming them. > > *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). > However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) > shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son of > Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in > the division of the land ? > > *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter > (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, that > Adam > and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin knew > what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. > > *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, > and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands should > be > reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. > Julia married Samuel Young > > *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt > and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. > *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > William > Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? > > * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann > Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We > need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the petition. > We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as her > daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit > children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the > petition > > You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown died > last Dec.8 at age 98. > > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > and Jesse Jr. This information > from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > > > The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the > same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. > 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. > > *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > North Carolina, pg. 171: > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > Extr.; my son Jack > ------------ > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound > Records by > David B. Gammon > pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > > > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > guardian. > > In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina > > We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY prefixed > order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs of > the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by > Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded > according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth > by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal > number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as > equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November 1854 > F. A. Smith > W. E. Robertson > J. V. Hardee > > If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley > Holt had the following children: > Adam N. Holt > c: Archelaus Holt > Elizabeth Holt > Eglet Holt > > Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between 1800 > and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis Smith > and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to > the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved to > Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was > apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be > appreciated. > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves > The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: > Deed Book 17, Page 799: > Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: > > To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that > I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and > in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto > Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of > the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, > Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided > after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly > and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, > executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In > witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of > November 1794. Joseph Holt > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: > Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt > Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was > exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a > witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. > Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct > > This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, > Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. > > Joseph Holt > Will > > In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in body > doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. > Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life > thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now > possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow > and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also my > household and kitchen furniture. > Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to my > grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and > Temperance Parker. > Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca > Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above Harvey > Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. > Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, > made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and > thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of > A N Shearin > H. Holt. > Joseph Holt (his mark) > > State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions > Halifax County February Term 1834 > Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of > A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it was > ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the executor > therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. > Witness M H Pettway Clk > > Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the > Halifax County Courthouse. > +++++++++++++++++++ > > Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first > Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is > Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early 1600's. > The > Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a > First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown to > Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from > The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? > +++++++++++++ > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? > Halifax County? > > I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with > Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a > Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, and > later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill family, > and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy > Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. > > > In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, > Tennessee, near > Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on > Barton's > Creek, in Montgomery County, TN > > James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 > 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, > Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. > > Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o > James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph > and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. > > I disagree with this. This is how I see it. > > Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is > Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse A. > Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the > sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of these > girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the > other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. > > Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two > daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey > (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown > orphans. > > Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children-Hiram > (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. > > Mary Polly's sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A > Holt. > > Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b ca > 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are > Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. > > Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca > 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married > twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse > Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III and > Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of > Osmond.. this family ends up in Alabama..) This makes Hardy the brother of > the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. > > Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr > 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III's > brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had > daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons > Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who > grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard Burt > and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama > Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy > Nevill and Rebecca Burt..) (there are even more interconnections..) > > Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and > Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, > sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b 1812). > I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R > Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and > Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. > > I did have one other discovery.. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son > whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott's will names his brothers and > sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca > C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was reviewing > Hardy's wife Rebecca's will, and in it she names each of her children that > we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I > had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the name > of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named > Richard B. > > > This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a different > Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. There is also another > Zachariah Nevill in Alabama, whose descendents also move to Texas > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried GenConnect? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? http://www.CyndisList.com

Randy: Just input. While Dr. Mann's manuscript does say that Temperance Holt married her cousin, Jesse A. Holt, this information is not true and he identifies his error later on. When he did his research he didn't have the information on James Holt (son of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt) and didn't know that James was already in Tennessee with his son, Jesse A. Holt or that Jesse A. Holt was already married to Elizabeth Davis and in Tennessee when Temperance's children were being born. Boddie used Dr. Mann's information in his genealogy sketch of the Holts but this information is wrong. No one really knows who the father of Temperance Holt's children were before she married Joseph Parker. Again, it is possible that Temperance Holt's children were illegitimate children of a Neville. If so, whoever wrote the entry in the Bible record could have been attempting to cover this fact up. That's one reason I was so excited to see your Temperance Neville Holt as being the daughter of Jesse Neville and married to Thomas Holt. If this marriage is between the Thomas Holt who was born circa 1780, son of Thomas Holt and Elizabeth Smith and Temperance Neville, born circa 1782, daughter of Jesse Neville, then this Thomas and Temperance Neville Holt might be the parents of the Ezeckiah Holt/Zachariah Nevill but then, who is Hezekiah Holt, the son of Polly Holt? As to Helen Tice's statement: "*I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt?" Hiram Holt was probably the first son of Temperance Holt. As stated in my last email, he shared in the division of the property left to Temperance's children after her death. He was not the son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt. He was named in a deed with Hilliard Holt and with Thomas Neville as a trustee. The only other Holt unit he could have been from would be Mary (Polly) Holt or Harvey Holt. Since he is named with Temperance's other children in two documents in court records, it suggests he was Temperance's son. <smile> I really need to see an actual outline of your family tree to determine the family units. The Holt and Neville families named their children identically so often that without it, I can't identify the different individuals. All of the family did not live in the same immediate area. In fact, three of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt's children moved out of Halifax County and out of NC. My Hiram did not live in the Heathsville/Brinkleyville area and neither did Adam N. Holt from what I can see posted. Because someone is not mentioned in a will is not an indication that the individual wasn't a part of the family unit. They could have already received a share of the estate or it might have been intentional that they not receive anything. Sue Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > Sue, > > We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance are > two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah Nevill > are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and > Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we are > correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. > > Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. > > Randy > > *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's > children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The > will does not name the children > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > Neither says what > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the > guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot tell > whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by comparing > such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. > in his will. > > *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary > Holt's children without naming them. > > *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). > However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) > shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son of > Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in > the division of the land ? > > *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter > (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, that > Adam > and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin knew > what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. > > *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, > and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands should > be > reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. > Julia married Samuel Young > > *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt > and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. > *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > William > Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? > > * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann > Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We > need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the petition. > We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as her > daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit > children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the > petition > > You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown died > last Dec.8 at age 98. > > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > and Jesse Jr. This information > from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > > > The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the > same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. > 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. > > *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > North Carolina, pg. 171: > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > Extr.; my son Jack > ------------ > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound > Records by > David B. Gammon > pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > > > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > guardian. > > In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina > > We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY prefixed > order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs of > the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by > Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded > according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth > by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal > number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as > equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November 1854 > F. A. Smith > W. E. Robertson > J. V. Hardee > > If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley > Holt had the following children: > Adam N. Holt > c: Archelaus Holt > Elizabeth Holt > Eglet Holt > > Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between 1800 > and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis Smith > and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to > the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved to > Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was > apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be > appreciated. > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves > The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: > Deed Book 17, Page 799: > Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: > > To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that > I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and > in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto > Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of > the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, > Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided > after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly > and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, > executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In > witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of > November 1794. Joseph Holt > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: > Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt > Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was > exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a > witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. > Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct > > This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, > Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. > > Joseph Holt > Will > > In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in body > doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. > Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life > thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now > possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow > and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also my > household and kitchen furniture. > Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to my > grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and > Temperance Parker. > Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca > Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above Harvey > Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. > Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, > made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and > thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of > A N Shearin > H. Holt. > Joseph Holt (his mark) > > State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions > Halifax County February Term 1834 > Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of > A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it was > ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the executor > therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. > Witness M H Pettway Clk > > Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the > Halifax County Courthouse. > +++++++++++++++++++ > > Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first > Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is > Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early 1600's. > The > Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a > First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown to > Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from > The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? > +++++++++++++ > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? > Halifax County? > > I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with > Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a > Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, and > later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill family, > and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy > Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. > > > In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, > Tennessee, near > Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on > Barton's > Creek, in Montgomery County, TN > > James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 > 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, > Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. > > Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o > James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph > and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. > > I disagree with this. This is how I see it. > > Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is > Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse A. > Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the > sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of these > girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the > other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. > > Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two > daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey > (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown > orphans. > > Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children-Hiram > (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. > > Mary Polly's sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A > Holt. > > Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b ca > 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are > Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. > > Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca > 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married > twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse > Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III and > Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of > Osmond.. this family ends up in Alabama..) This makes Hardy the brother of > the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. > > Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr > 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III's > brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had > daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons > Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who > grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard Burt > and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama > Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy > Nevill and Rebecca Burt..) (there are even more interconnections..) > > Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and > Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, > sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b 1812). > I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R > Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and > Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. > > I did have one other discovery.. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son > whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott's will names his brothers and > sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca > C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was reviewing > Hardy's wife Rebecca's will, and in it she names each of her children that > we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I > had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the name > of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named > Richard B. > > > This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a different > Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. There is also another > Zachariah Nevill in Alabama, whose descendents also move to Texas > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried GenConnect? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html >

Randy: Thanks for the follow-up. I need to digest your information and would appreciate your input to the following: 1 - Who was the father of the Thomas Holt who you think married Temperance Neville? Am I correct that you think that the Tempy Holt named in Jesse Neville's will is Temperance Neville Holt, daughter of Jesse Neville? 2 - Could I please see a family outline of your Neville/Holt family units for the individuals discussed below? It would help me identify the relationships you believe existed. We seem to be researching the same family lines. Sue Thompson sthomps61@alltel.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:42 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Jesse Nevill,Tempty Neville Holt, Temperance Holt > Sue, > > We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance are > two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah Nevill > are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and > Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we are > correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. > > Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. > > Randy > > *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's > children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The > will does not name the children > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > Neither says what > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the > guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot tell > whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by comparing > such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. > in his will. > > *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary > Holt's children without naming them. > > *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). > However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) > shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son of > Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in > the division of the land ? > > *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter > (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, that > Adam > and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin knew > what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. > > *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, > and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands should > be > reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. > Julia married Samuel Young > > *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt > and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. > *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could > have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of > William > Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? > > * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann > Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We > need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the petition. > We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as her > daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit > children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the > petition > > You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown died > last Dec.8 at age 98. > > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > and Jesse Jr. This information > from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > > > The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the > same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. > 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. > > *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > North Carolina, pg. 171: > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > Extr.; my son Jack > ------------ > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound > Records by > David B. Gammon > pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > > > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > guardian. > > In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina > > We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY prefixed > order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs of > the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by > Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded > according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth > by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal > number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as > equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November 1854 > F. A. Smith > W. E. Robertson > J. V. Hardee > > If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley > Holt had the following children: > Adam N. Holt > c: Archelaus Holt > Elizabeth Holt > Eglet Holt > > Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between 1800 > and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis Smith > and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to > the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved to > Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was > apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be > appreciated. > > *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on > his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property > and > H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves > The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: > Deed Book 17, Page 799: > Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: > > To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that > I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and > in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto > Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of > the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, > Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided > after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly > and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, > executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In > witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of > November 1794. Joseph Holt > Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: > Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt > Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was > exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a > witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. > Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct > > This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, > Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. > > Joseph Holt > Will > > In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in body > doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. > Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life > thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now > possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow > and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also my > household and kitchen furniture. > Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to my > grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and > Temperance Parker. > Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca > Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above Harvey > Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. > Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, > made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and > thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of > A N Shearin > H. Holt. > Joseph Holt (his mark) > > State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions > Halifax County February Term 1834 > Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of > Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of > A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it was > ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the executor > therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. > Witness M H Pettway Clk > > Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the > Halifax County Courthouse. > +++++++++++++++++++ > > Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first > Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is > Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early 1600's. > The > Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a > First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown to > Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from > The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? > +++++++++++++ > > *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that > Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker > > Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does > Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? > Halifax County? > > I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with > Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a > Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, and > later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill family, > and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy > Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. > > > In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, > Tennessee, near > Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on > Barton's > Creek, in Montgomery County, TN > > James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 > 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, > Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. > > Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o > James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph > and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. > > I disagree with this. This is how I see it. > > Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is > Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse A. > Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the > sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of these > girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the > other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. > > Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two > daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey > (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown > orphans. > > Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children-Hiram > (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. > > Mary Polly's sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A > Holt. > > Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b ca > 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are > Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. > > Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca > 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married > twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse > Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III and > Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of > Osmond.. this family ends up in Alabama..) This makes Hardy the brother of > the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. > > Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr > 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III's > brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had > daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons > Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who > grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard Burt > and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama > Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy > Nevill and Rebecca Burt..) (there are even more interconnections..) > > Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and > Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, > sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b 1812). > I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R > Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and > Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. > > I did have one other discovery.. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son > whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott's will names his brothers and > sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca > C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was reviewing > Hardy's wife Rebecca's will, and in it she names each of her children that > we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I > had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the name > of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named > Richard B. > > > This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a different > Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. There is also another > Zachariah Nevill in Alabama, whose descendents also move to Texas > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried GenConnect? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html >

Sue, We have worked on this for some time. We feel that Tempty and Temperance are two different people. Also it looks like Ezeckiah Holt and Zachariah Nevill are the same person. He was Ezakiah Holt in North Carolina 1840 and Zachariah Nevill in TN 1850. He is the son of Tempty Nevill Holt, if we are correct, Grandson of Jesse Nevill. Below is some information from various e-mails, and documents. Randy *Jesse Nevill's Will bequeathed a named parcel of land to Mary Holt's children and another named parcel to Temperance Holt's children. The will does not name the children *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. Neither says what property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. * To date I have not ascertained exactly what property was in the guardianship which benefited the Nevill/ Holt children. Thus we cannot tell whether those named were children of Mary, Temperance or both, by comparing such to the named property designated for each set of children by Jesse N. in his will. *There is apparently a court record in 1822 or 1823 which refers to Mary Holt's children without naming them. *Mary(Polly) Holt's Will left her estate to her daughter, Eaglet( Eagley). However, the surviving children of H.N. Holt ( Hezekiah, Ezakiah, or Bis) shared in the disposition of Polly's estate. If Adam was , in fact, a son of Mary(Polly) Holt, why did his three surviving daughters not also share in the division of the land ? *There is some triple hearsay information, obtained by a granddaughter (Annie Bledsoe Bain) of Adam N. Holt from Mr. E.C. Shearin of Enfield, that Adam and Bis Holt were brothers and were sons of Polly Holt. How Mr. Shearin knew what he apparently told "Cousin Annie", I have no idea. *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that indicates that Temperance Holt married : 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property and H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves. *The daughters of Adam Holt and Annis Smith Holt were Victoria C. , Julia, and Donna. Helen Tice's information re Victoria and Julia's husbands should be reversed. Victoria C. married George W. Heptinstall, a Methodist minister. Julia married Samuel Young *William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt were not the parents of Adam N. Holt and his siblings. Of this, I believe we can be certain. *I know nothing about Hiram Holt, but I have no reason to think he could have been a sibling of Adam N Holt et al. Could he have been a son of William Holt and Polly Brinkley Holt? * The petition posted by Helen Tice does not say that W.H., Hiram and Ann Marie Holt were children of Mary(Polly) Holt, daughter of Joseph Holt. We need to know whose land was being divided to make any sense of the petition. We do know that Eaglet Holt was named by Mary(Polly) Holt in her Will as her daughter. Thus Eaglet should have shared in any division to benefit children of Mary, daughter of Joseph Holt. Eaglet was not named in the petition You may be interested to know that my mother, Julia Holt Mitchell Brown died last Dec.8 at age 98. *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July, 1759 Fauquier County, VA. This Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack and Jesse Jr. This information from his will in Halifax County, NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 The Benjamin mentioned above. Note; this puts Benjamin and Jesse in the same family group. The Benjamin in 1840 maybe a brother of Jesse Nevill b. 1759, The Benjamin in 1840 was to old to have been his son. *Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County, North Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, North Carolina, pg. 171: Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? Extr.; my son Jack ------------ Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon pg. 80 Neville, Jesse Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) Records of Estates / Halifax County, North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound Records by David B. Gammon pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse’s descendents and custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed guardian. In Deed Book 33, Page 607: Halifax County, North Carolina We the undersigned commissioners in obedience to the HALIFAX COUNTY prefixed order of court to us directed to divide the lands belonging to the heirs of the late Polly Holt decd do report and say that Lot No. 1 was drawn by Archelaus Holt and Elizabeth Holt in right of A. N. Holt, decd, recorded according to the map above. Lot No. 2 was drawn by Eglet Holt as set forth by the map above and we do report and say that we have ?????? and equal number of acres of land and it is our opinion that it has been divided as equal in valuation. Given under our hands and seals this 22nd November 1854 F. A. Smith W. E. Robertson J. V. Hardee If this is the same Polly Brinkley Holt then: William and Polly Brinkley Holt had the following children: Adam N. Holt c: Archelaus Holt Elizabeth Holt Eglet Holt Looking for any information on Adam Holt's parents. He was born between 1800 and 1810, according to the 1840 census of Halifax Co. He married Annis Smith and they had 3 daughters. He died around 1847-48. I believe he belongs to the family descended from Thomas Holt who married Ann Arrington and moved to Halifax Co from Virginia around 1760, but I cannot find proof. He was apparently orphaned and was the ward of Jesse Neville. Any help would be appreciated. *In the 1840 Census, Adam N. Holt and his family and slaves are shown on his property near Enfield. Mary (Polly) Holt is shown on the next property and H.N. Holt appears in the same vicinity with his family and slaves The following deeds are from the Halifax County records: Deed Book 17, Page 799: Joseph Holt to Polly Holt, deed of gift: To all Christian people to whom these presents shall come: Know ye that I, Joseph, state of Halifax County and state of North Carolina for and in consideration of the request of my father have given and granted unto Polly Holt, wife of my brother, William Holt, one of the two parts of the property left to me in the last will and testament of my father, Thomas Holt, decd being one seventh part of the property to be divided after the death of my mother and by these presents do freely, clearly and absolutely give and grant to the said Polly Holt, her heirs, executors, and all and singular the property before mentioned. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 11th day of November 1794. Joseph Holt Signed, sealed and delivered in the presence of witness: Arrington Holt, Nancy Holt Halifax County Est. May Sessions 1795. Then this deed of gift was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of Arrington Holt, a witness thereto and on motion ordered to be registered. Registered July the 20th, 1795 P. E. Long, PR Witness: L. Long, C. Ct This Polly is Polly Brinkley, daughter of Robert and Judith Brinkley, Wife of William Holt, son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington. Joseph Holt Will In the Name of God Amen, I Joseph Holt being in sound mind but weak in body doth make and ordain this my last will and testament. Item 1st I lend in trust to my wife Rebecca Holt during her natural life thirty dollars to be paid out of my estate, one horse, which I am now possessed-of viz. a sorrel horse called liberty - one black ox and one cow and calf to be chosen by herself out of my stock, one sow and pigs, also my household and kitchen furniture. Item 2d All the remainder of my property, except one bed which I give to my grandson Eli Cook, I give to my three children Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker. Item 3rd I give the balance of my property at the death of my wife Rebecca Holt, that is lent her in trust, to my three children as named above Harvey Holt, Mary Holt and Temperance Parker to be equally divided between them. Item 4th I made and ordain my friend James R Benford my lawful executor, made this 26th day of October in the year of our Lord Eighteen hundred and thirty three. Signed sealed and acknowledged in presence of A N Shearin H. Holt. Joseph Holt (his mark) State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions Halifax County February Term 1834 Then this paper writing purporting to be the last will and testament of Joseph Holt decd was exhibited in open court and duly proved by the oath of A N Shearin and H. Holt two subscribing witnesses thereto. Whereupon it was ordered by the court that will be recorded -- James R. Binford the executor therein named came into open court and was duly qualified thereto. Witness M H Pettway Clk Transcribed by Dawn Hux from will located in Will Book 4 page 107 at the Halifax County Courthouse. +++++++++++++++++++ Hilby Ray HOLT was the daughter of Jesse HOLT and Temperance HOLT - first Cousins - however . . . the Temperance line is not disputed. She is Descended from Randal HOLT who immigrated to Jamestown in the early 1600's. The Problem is that no one really knows who this Jesse is. Tempy does have a First cousin that all this fits onto neatly BUT this cousin is not shown to Have married her! He became a Mormon and moved west. He was removed from The family Bible. Did they remove all references of his marriage to Tempy? Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? +++++++++++++ *Dr. William Mann told me that he has an original Bible record that Indicates that Temperance Holt married: 1. Jesse Holt and 2. Joseph Parker Family rumor is that Tempy really had her children by a Jesse NEVILLE! Does Anyone have a record of a Jesse NEVILLE? Are there bastardy bonds for? Halifax County? I believe it was Tempy Nevill, dau of Jesse Nevill, who had children with Thomas Holt, not Tempy Holt. Dau of Joseph Holt, who had children with a Thomas Holt, and because the parents both died, Jesse got the grandkids, and later they went to some Holts for a while and then to another Nevill family, and that is why their name changes from Holt to Nevill to Holt, etc. Tempy Holt is a completely different person that Tempy Nevill Holt. In the early 1800's James Holt brought his family to Wilson County, Tennessee, near Lebanon, Tennessee He owned 194 A. on the e. side of Middle Prong, on Barton's Creek, in Montgomery County, TN James contested his father Thomas' will and lost the case. In Sept. 24 1995, I visited the grave of Jesse Holt (s/o Jas.) in Lebanon, Tennessee, Which the Nat. Soc. U.S. Dau has marked. Of War of 1812. Some feel Eagly Holt b. 1828 who m. Elias G. Neville as being a d/o James Holt above. I believe she was d/o Mary "Polly" Holt (d/o Joseph and Nancy Holt) and an unknown Holt father. I disagree with this. This is how I see it. Thomas Holt 1730-1794 m Ann Arrington and had 7 kids. One is James, one is Joseph. James marries Lydia Read and has 8 children. The oldest is Jesse A. Holt. This Jesse A Holt marries four times, the first two times are to the sisters Mary Polly Holt (b 1792) and Temperance Holt (b 1780). Both of these girls are the daughters of Joseph Holt and Nancy, this Joseph being the other son of Thomas Holt and Ann Arrington above. Joseph Holt (1755-1833) and his wife Nancy have four children, the two daughters Mary Polly and Temperance, an unnamed daughter and a son Harvey (1772-1841). I believe this is the Harvey that has custody of the unknown orphans. Mary Polly Holt (1792) m Jesse A Holt above and has three children—Hiram (1807-1865) Hezekiah N Biz Holt b ca 1810 and a daughter Eaglet b ca 1812. Mary Polly’s sister Temperance Holt (1780-1852) has five kids with Jesse A Holt. Now it gets even cooler. Hezekiah N Biz marries Elizabeth Betsy Nevill b ca 1791, dau of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. Their children are Archibald and Elizabeth Holt. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we explore this Benjamin III Nevill (ca 1742-1832) and wife Lucretia Smith. I believe this Benjamin was married twice, the last time to Sarah Nevill, the daughter of the mysterious Jesse Nevill above who had kids Tempe, Sarah, Jack and Jesse Jr. Benjamin III and Lucretia are the parents of Hardy Nevill (my Hardy Nevill, father of Osmond…. this family ends up in Alabama….) This makes Hardy the brother of the Elizabeth above who married Hezekiah N Biz Holt. Now back to the mysterious Jesse Nevill. He was b 5 Jul 1759 NC, d 21 Apr 1918 NC, son of Thomas R. Nevill and Sarah. Thomas R is Benjamin III’s brother---they are both sons of Benjamin Sr. Nevill. As we see, Jesse had daughters Sarah m Benjamin Nevill, dau Temperance m Thomas Holt, and sons Jack and Jesse Jr. I believe Thomas and Tempy had five kids, Adam (who grows up and marries Annis N Smith who is the granddaughter of Richard Burt and Rebecca Stephens (remember them, all tied up with the Alabama Nevills---Annis sister Lydia marries Patrick Henry Nevill, son of Hardy Nevill and Rebecca Burt….) (there are even more interconnections….) Thomas and Tempy also have Joab, Malinder, Zachariah or Hezekiah and Eaglet. These are the mystery kids who are sometimes called Nevill, sometimes Holt. This Eaglet Holt was b 1808 (see Eaglet Holt above b 1812). I believe this is the Eaglet that marries Elias G. Nevill, son of Thomas R Nevill and Sally Green. This Thomas R is another brother of Hardy and Elizabeth above, a son of Benjamin III Nevill and Lucretia Smith. I did have one other discovery…. We know that Hardy and Rebecca had a son whose name we do not know. Their son Holcott’s will names his brothers and sisters, and lists the children of an unnamed deceased brother as Rebecca C., Thomas F, William, Alice, Sallie, Dayton and Robert P. I was reviewing Hardy’s wife Rebecca’s will, and in it she names each of her children that we already knew of, but she also leaves money to a Richard B. Previously I had thought this was her grandson, son of Osmond J, but I bet it is the name of the missing son. That would make another son for Hardy, a son named Richard B. This maybe the Richard B. Nevill in the Alabama, Census. This is a different Richard Nevill from the one In Madison, County. There is also another Zachariah Nevill in Alabama, whose descendents also move to Texas

The children of Temperance Holt remains a mystery on the Holt side as well. However, Temperance Holt was not the mother of Joab, Malinda and the others mentioned. Polly Holt, her sister, was the mother of these children. Temperance married Joseph Parker in May of 1822. Before she married, she had Joseph W. Holt, Hilliard Holt, Eaton Holt, Nancy Holt, Hilby Holt. She had James Harvey Parker with Joseph Parker. Our research is also suggesting that Temperance's first son was Hiram Holt. BC Holtzclaw did a genealogy on the Holt family but he has several mistakes in it. He says that Temperance Holt's first children were by Jesse A. Holt but this is inaccurate since Jesse A. Holt was already in Tennessee and married to Elizabeth Davis before Temperance's children were born. We don't know who the father of Temperance or Polly's children were. We suspect that they may have been illegitimate children fathered by a Neville but we aren't sure at this point. There is another document registered in the Feb Term of 1866 as follows: "On motion it is ordered by the Court that Andrew Gunter, Braswell Britt, Wright Willey & W.K Pittman be appointed commissioners to divide the lands described in the petition into equal parts or shares, and to allot to each of the petitioners J.W. Holt, Eaton Holt and James H. Parker one share. ???(couldn't read name) Parker and wife Nancy one share, and to W.H., Hiram and Ann Marie Holt (Wallace) one share, and if no division, to sell, etc." These five shares are all given to children of Temperance Holt: J. W. Holt, Eaton Holt, James H. Parker, Nancy Holt (who married a Parker) and the children of Hiram Holt (W. H., Hiram and Ann Marie Holt) who was deceased by the time this petition was submitted to the court. Unfortunately, the land's owner is not identified on this court order to divide. I'm in the processing now of trying to find the original petition and subsequent report to the court on this document on the microfilm as I'm sure it will shed some light on who the father of these children were (other than James H. Parker who we know was the son of Joseph Parker). Is it possible that Temperance Holt was a Neville who married into the Holt family? Is there anyone on the Neville list who can verify a marriage between a Temperance Neville and a Holt? or.. is there anyone on the Neville list who can confirm that the Holt children by Temperance and Polly Holt were illegitimate children of a Neville? Any input greatly appreciated. Sue Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy L. Nevill" <liven@txucom.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:43 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] NC, Jesse Nevill, Benjamin, Lydia, p 64 Zachariah Nevill > #1. Benjamin Nevill 1840 Census NC, which Benjamin is this? He was born > about 1765 +- 5 years. I feel this maybe Lydia's husband or the home she > was in. There are not that many possibilities for 1840. "It is possible that > this is the marker we have been looking for", Note: there is two females in > this house one which is Lydia's age and one the age of Jane Statum, both are > in the home of Zachariah Nevill 1850 in Madison County > > > > Will # 487 pg. 230 Thomas Holt 14 Dec 1793 Aug Ct. 1794 > Lend wife Ann Holt land and plantation whereon I now live, Negroes and the > rest of my estate etc. during her life sons Joseph Holt, James Holt and > Thomas Holt Negroes each after wife's death son Arrington Holt Negroes etc. > and the land and plantation whereon I now live daughters Patience Johnston > and Rebecca Read 1 negro each grandson Benjamin Johnston bed and furniture > after my wife's death > > Wit.: Benj. Nevill and Joseph Seat(?) { Note: This is a Benjamin > Nevill/Thomas Holt connection } > > Extrs.: my sons Joseph and Arrington > > Note; Thomas Hoalt & Benjamin Nevill are neighbors in 1790 and note: > grandson Benjamin Johnson above, Halifax district, Halifax County. There are > two Benjamin Nevills and two Thomas Hoalts on this page and some other > Nevill families, Jesse, John, & William > > Will #952 Jesse Nevill Sr 21 April 19, 1819 (sic) the wife of Benjamin > Nevill Jr and Tempty Holts chirdren are mention after this. Here we have a > link to Benjamin, Tempty and Jesse > > *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and > an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda > (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the > surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. > Neither says what > property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was > Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph > Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. > > > *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was > the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July,1759 Fauquier County ,VA. This > Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack > and Jesse Jr. This information > from his will in Halifax County ,NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court > 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 > slwilcox@juno.com (Shirley L Wilcox > > Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County , North > Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, > North Carolina, pg. 171: > Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 > daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and > plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not > given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels > son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . > Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? > Extr.; my son Jack > ------------ > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose > Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon > pg. 80 Neville, Jesse > Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and > Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had > received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was > appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of > the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) > > Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant > Bound Records by > David B. Gammon > *pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) > Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. > ---- > I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas > Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the > children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse's descendents and > custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed > guardian. > > Roxann, > > I feel you are correct and it maybe that this Benjamin Nevill fits in here > some how. > > Randy > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you searched the U.S. GenWeb for your counties of interest? > http://www.usgenweb.org/ >

#1. Benjamin Nevill 1840 Census NC, which Benjamin is this? He was born about 1765 +- 5 years. I feel this maybe Lydia’s husband or the home she was in. There are not that many possibilities for 1840. ”It is possible that this is the marker we have been looking for”, Note: there is two females in this house one which is Lydia’s age and one the age of Jane Statum, both are in the home of Zachariah Nevill 1850 in Madison County Will # 487 pg. 230 Thomas Holt 14 Dec 1793 Aug Ct. 1794 Lend wife Ann Holt land and plantation whereon I now live, Negroes and the rest of my estate etc. during her life sons Joseph Holt, James Holt and Thomas Holt Negroes each after wife’s death son Arrington Holt Negroes etc. and the land and plantation whereon I now live daughters Patience Johnston and Rebecca Read 1 negro each grandson Benjamin Johnston bed and furniture after my wife’s death Wit.: Benj. Nevill and Joseph Seat(?) { Note: This is a Benjamin Nevill/Thomas Holt connection } Extrs.: my sons Joseph and Arrington Note; Thomas Hoalt & Benjamin Nevill are neighbors in 1790 and note: grandson Benjamin Johnson above, Halifax district, Halifax County. There are two Benjamin Nevills and two Thomas Hoalts on this page and some other Nevill families, Jesse, John, & William Will #952 Jesse Nevill Sr 21 April 19, 1819 (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr and Tempty Holts chirdren are mention after this. Here we have a link to Benjamin, Tempty and Jesse *Two extant documents (a bond and appointment of successor guardian and an inventory) name five "orphans' of Jesse Nevill, viz. Adam, Joab, Malinda (or Malinder), Ezakiah, and Eagley( or Eaglet). One document uses the surname "Nevill" and the other uses "Holt" when naming the beneficiaries. Neither says what property came into the guardianship originally. The original guardian was Harvey Holt, brother of Mary(Polly) and Temperance Holt, daughters of Joseph Holt. The successor guardian was Thomas Nevill. *The Sarah Neville that is supposed to have m. Benjamin Neville Jr. was the daughter of a Jesse Neville b.5 July,1759 Fauquier County ,VA. This Jesse had 4 children ;Sarah m Benjamin Neville ,Tempy m. Thomas Holt ,Jack and Jesse Jr. This information from his will in Halifax County ,NC The will is # 952 page643 aug. Court 1819 Halifax County, NC Abstracts of wills 1758-1824 slwilcox@juno.com (Shirley L Wilcox Genealogical Abstracts of Wills / 1758 - 1824 / Halifax County , North Carolina by Margaret M. Hofmann, pub. by The Roanoke News County , Weldon, North Carolina, pg. 171: Will #952 pg. 643 Jesse Nevill, Sr. 21 Apr. 1819 Aug. Ct. 1819 daughter Sarah Nevill (sic) the wife of Benjamin Nevill Jr. (sic)) land and plantation I bought of Edmond Nevill . . . Tempy Holt's children (names not given) the land I bought of Abner Knight and the land called Daniels son Jack Nevill . . . the lands I bought of Chappell Carstarphan . . . Wit.: Miles Smith, Ransom Sherrin, Harvey B-----? Extr.; my son Jack ------------ Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. 1 / Extant Loose Records 1816 -1823 / 1865 - 1900 by David B. Gammon pg. 80 Neville, Jesse Thomas Neville filed a gdn. account for Adam, Malinder, Joab, Ezakiah and Eagly Holt (sic), orphans of the dec'd., Feb. 17, 1822. The orphans had received money from Harvy Holt, their former gdn. Thomas Neville, Jr. was appt. gdn. of Adam, Joab, Eagley, Melinda and Zacharias Neville, orphans of the dec'd. [Jesse Neville], Feb. 17, 1823. (Note discrepancy of names) Records of Estates / Halifax County , North Carolina / Vol. II / Extant Bound Records by David B. Gammon *pg. 64 Nevill, Adam, Joab, Melinda, Eaglet & Zacharias (orphans' account) Thomas Nevill, Jr. was apptd. gdn. of the said orphans, Feb., 1823. ---- I believe Tempe Nevill was the daughter of Jesse Nevill and married Thomas Holt. After Tempe died her father Jesse must have been responsible for the children, because when he dies they are named as Jesse’s descendents and custody is given to Harvey Holt. Later Thomas Nevill Jr was appointed guardian. Roxann, I feel you are correct and it maybe that this Benjamin Nevill fits in here some how. Randy

Thanks for clearing that up, I guess it is just one of those weird coincidences!!! Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "REN AND JUDY NEVILLE" <beschutzer@earthlink.net> To: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Reay/Neville marriages > Rebecca......to my knowledge, the line of Solomon Corbin Neville Jr., and > General Joseph Neville are two separate lines (trees). Some think that Joseph > Neville goes to the patriarch John Neville of the Ark and Dove variety while > Solomon Corbin goes to the patriarch William b. 1615 in England that to my > knowledge has not been linked with John and Bridget Thorsley. IF anyone has a > link between these two lines, please share......(pretty please) otherwise I > would have a problem with the Reay's of Hardy Co., ending up in a canoe ride in > Montgomery Co., TN with those "other" Neville's :) > > Rebecca Lucas wrote: > > > Does anyone know about this Martha Cash Nevill, d/o Solomon Corbin Neville? > > I am trying to learn more about the Reay family since Elizabeth Neville d/o > > John Neville/Mary Hider b. 1765 son of Gen. Joseph of Hardy co.married a > > John Reay as her first husband. I found this on the internet, another > > Reay/Nevill marriage. I believe these people lived in Tennessee. How do they > > relate to Joseph Neville of Hardy co. VA.? > > > > Husband: John Reay > > Born: ABT. 1839 at: > > Married: ABT. 1859 at: > > Died: at: > > Father: > > Mother: > > Other Spouses: > > Wife: Martha Cash Nevill > > Born: ABT. 1838 at: > > Died: at: > > Father:Solomon Corbin Nevill > > Mother:Frances Slaughter Ball Long > > > > I also found that Martha Cash Nevill had a sister Elizabeth Vaughn Nevill > > who married a Nesbit > > > > Name: Elizabeth Vaughn Nevill > > Born: ABT. 1850 at: > > Married: ABT. 1871 at: > > Died: ABT. 1877 at: > > Spouses: B.B. Nesbit > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > > Have you tried the Rootsweb Surname Helper Search Engine? > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > > -- > ======================================================================== > Ren and Judy Neville > 925-516-4976 voice/FAX > > "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... > shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > > "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear > chain'd to the ragged staff" > Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville > > Ne vile velis > "Form no mean wish" > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Neville Heritage Society Home Page: > http://neville.home.att.net/ >

Does anyone know about this Martha Cash Nevill, d/o Solomon Corbin Neville? I am trying to learn more about the Reay family since Elizabeth Neville d/o John Neville/Mary Hider b. 1765 son of Gen. Joseph of Hardy co.married a John Reay as her first husband. I found this on the internet, another Reay/Nevill marriage. I believe these people lived in Tennessee. How do they relate to Joseph Neville of Hardy co. VA.? Husband: John Reay Born: ABT. 1839 at: Married: ABT. 1859 at: Died: at: Father: Mother: Other Spouses: Wife: Martha Cash Nevill Born: ABT. 1838 at: Died: at: Father:Solomon Corbin Nevill Mother:Frances Slaughter Ball Long I also found that Martha Cash Nevill had a sister Elizabeth Vaughn Nevill who married a Nesbit Name: Elizabeth Vaughn Nevill Born: ABT. 1850 at: Married: ABT. 1871 at: Died: ABT. 1877 at: Spouses: B.B. Nesbit

Rebecca......to my knowledge, the line of Solomon Corbin Neville Jr., and General Joseph Neville are two separate lines (trees). Some think that Joseph Neville goes to the patriarch John Neville of the Ark and Dove variety while Solomon Corbin goes to the patriarch William b. 1615 in England that to my knowledge has not been linked with John and Bridget Thorsley. IF anyone has a link between these two lines, please share......(pretty please) otherwise I would have a problem with the Reay's of Hardy Co., ending up in a canoe ride in Montgomery Co., TN with those "other" Neville's :) Rebecca Lucas wrote: > Does anyone know about this Martha Cash Nevill, d/o Solomon Corbin Neville? > I am trying to learn more about the Reay family since Elizabeth Neville d/o > John Neville/Mary Hider b. 1765 son of Gen. Joseph of Hardy co.married a > John Reay as her first husband. I found this on the internet, another > Reay/Nevill marriage. I believe these people lived in Tennessee. How do they > relate to Joseph Neville of Hardy co. VA.? > > Husband: John Reay > Born: ABT. 1839 at: > Married: ABT. 1859 at: > Died: at: > Father: > Mother: > Other Spouses: > Wife: Martha Cash Nevill > Born: ABT. 1838 at: > Died: at: > Father:Solomon Corbin Nevill > Mother:Frances Slaughter Ball Long > > I also found that Martha Cash Nevill had a sister Elizabeth Vaughn Nevill > who married a Nesbit > > Name: Elizabeth Vaughn Nevill > Born: ABT. 1850 at: > Married: ABT. 1871 at: > Died: ABT. 1877 at: > Spouses: B.B. Nesbit > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried the Rootsweb Surname Helper Search Engine? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html -- ======================================================================== Ren and Judy Neville 925-516-4976 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear chain'd to the ragged staff" Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville Ne vile velis "Form no mean wish"

I have done some research on Simon Neville but like you can not place his parents. Have you found a marriage date of Alexander Neville and Catherine Armstrong? Shirley Wilcox On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:50:54 -0700 REN AND JUDY NEVILLE <beschutzer@earthlink.net> writes: > Can't help you but will forward your email to the Neville List where > perhaps you > will pick up a relation. Take care.....Ren Neville > > Jjhoffore@aol.com wrote: > > > Im searching for the Father of Simon Neville. Simon was born > probably before > > 1755. Married Ann Reese, they lived in Maryland, had a son > Alexander, he was > > born 1792. Alexander had about 8 children, one was Henry, my gr. > > grandfather. > > > > I can't seem to get back any further. Appreciate any help! Emily > Hoffman > > -- > ======================================================================== > Ren and Judy Neville > 925-516-4976 voice/FAX > > "If God so clothe the grass of the field..... > shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > > "My fathers badge, old Nevil's crest, the rampant bear > chain'd to the ragged staff" > Henry VI, part 2, verse 1........William Shakespeare > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johnneville > > Ne vile velis > "Form no mean wish" > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Hi, If you are referring to John Christopher Neville and James T. Neville, sons of Robert Buckner Neville and Clarissa Jane Berry, I can prob. help although I do not show them as twins. Their father and his brother Joseph G. b. 1822 were twins, they also had brothers named John and James but their b-days would be before 1820. If you can be a little more specific I can prob. help. John C. and James T. lived in Ballard/Carlisle Co. KY. DC Browning >>> huthun@wavegate.com 07/12/02 08:47PM >>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YA3.2ACEB/353 Message Board Post: Am seeking information on twin brothers James and John Neville from Kentucky--county of birth, dates (1840's??), marriages, etc. Thanks for your help. ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== Archived postings to the NEVILLE mailing list can be found on the WEB at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

This post of Rebecca's doesn't seem to have made it to the Neville list. Rootsweb has had some of the lists down for restructuring. Possibly it fell through the cracks. I am resending it. --Glenn Gohr (List Manager) ----- Original Message ----- From: Rebecca Lucas To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 10:24 PM Subject: Elizabeth Neville Reay Gilmore grave Hello again, I just came back from a trip to West Virginia where I located the grave of David Gilmore and Elizabeth Neville Reay Gilmore. ( I believe she was a granddaughter of Joseph Neville who died in Hardy co. Va. in 1819) They are buried at Israel United Methodist Church cemetery in Kerens, West Virginia. Their tombstone reads "Saviour Lead Me" David Gilmore - died June 27, 1872 aged 76. Under this it says "Elizabeth - His wife- Died April 5, 1873 - Aged 81. This would put her birthdate at 1791 or 1792. Becky in Ohio

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