> Jan: > > I'm forwarding this message to the Nevill board. We need to all be > hashing these elusive Nevills around, and I think it helps for us to > share what we are thinking. I've noticed that the reply on rootsweb > defaults so that we are replying privately instead of on the open board > (I thought it was the other way around?)...so I think that now we are > missing out on a lot. Anyway...... > > Yes, there are is at least one Presley in Solomon Neville's line, but he > belongs to a daughter's line...he is Presley Snipes. I've seen a Presley > in George Nevill's line in Montgomery Co...he also has a different > surname because he belongs to a daughter line. In Demarius Travis' > household there is a Presley O. _________. I think he is a Travis...I > will have to look, but on one census the surname is given as Nevel > because he is listed in the household after Annette Nevel (Granderson's > wife [ex-wife?]). I think the Nevel name is a mistake....based on age I > ruled him out as an elder son of Granderson's. I think in this instance > the Presley name is coming out of George Nevill's line...Demarius is his > grand daughter. That is how I think McAllister had interpreted it. > > Kathy > > --------------28C064763F69 > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <jdfaulk@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> > Received: from aus-c.mp.campus.mci.net from [208.140.84.23] by mail.airmail.net > (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.181) with esmtp for <ppskdd2@airmail.net> > id <m0weueX-000BUOB@mail.airmail.net>; Thu, 19 Jun 97 22:46:25 -0500 (CDT) > Received: from s18-pm08.snaustel.campus.mci.net (s18-pm08.snaustel.campus.mci.net [207.49.120.239]) > by aus-c.mp.campus.mci.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02406 > for <ppskdd2@airmail.net>; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:44:03 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:44:03 -0400 (EDT) > Message-Id: <199706200344.XAA02406@aus-c.mp.campus.mci.net> > X-Sender: jdfaulk@hop-uky.campus.mci.net > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > To: ppskdd2@airmail.net > From: jdfaulk@hop-uky.campus.mci.net > Subject: Re: Presley Nevill > > Kathy, > > I have been going back through all of your posts and noticed your "wrinkle" > below. According to the traditional and much debated lineage of the Prince > William and Fauquier Co., VA Nevilles, Presley's father John, who moved to > PA, was a brother (not proved) of George Nevill who came to Montgomery Co., > TN after living in area of Rutherford Co., NC and that part of SC just below > Rutherford Co., NC. (The border was in dispute and they probably didn't move > - the line moved.) Their other brother (not proved) William also moved to > the same area of SC (Greenville Co.) and his son was the Jessie Nevill found > in that area. William also left SC and came to area around Barren Co., KY, > where another brother (not proved) James lived. James had moved directly > from VA to KY according to a deposition. William left KY and settled in > either Jackson or White Co., TN just below KY. (I will check if you need to > know for certain.) Joseph, Jr., another brother (not proved) to Presley, > George, William, and James, moved to Hampshire Co., VA (what is now Hardy > Co., W. VA). Ann, a sister (not proved), married an O'Bannon and came to > Logan Co., KY. Her son Presley Nevill O'Bannon was a Marine hero and there > is a historical marker in front of his home in Russellville, KY (about a > half hour from where I live). All were said to be the sons of Joseph Nevill. > If you have seen the disputed Booger genealogy, you probably "have a handle" > on this tradition. (The Benjamin and Richard listed as other brothers turned > out to be Newells in Fauquier Co.) The only "proved" sons of the above > Joseph were posted on our list (recent Rev. War ancestors post); however, it > does seem pretty likely they all were bothers because they continued family > names with their children and grandchilren. > > George in Montgomery Co., TN named Joseph Bargel Nevill, John Nevill, and > George Washington Nevill as his sons in his will in early 1800's in > Montgomery Co., TN. George also left them "money due me in the Natchez." > He may have sold whiskey, tobacco, or other goods to market in Natchez or he > may have lent someone money who was there or he may have sold some land > there, but so far, I have found no record of him in late 1700 records in > Natchez. George had some daughters and Presley Pollock is the child of one > of his daughters. > > Back to your wrinkle. Why ARE the Halifax/Orange Co., NC Nevills so chummy > with the above Nevills who went to Montgomery Co., TN? I wish I knew. Were > they cousins who got back together during the Rev. War? Or, were they > cousins who had always known about each other? What seems really strange is > that Solomon and John lived so close to each other, as if they had been > together before coming to Montgomery Co., TN. Sometimes, I question whether > John is the John named in George's will, but a certified genealogist in > Montgomery Co., TN, who is also a Nevill descendant says that the John > living near Solomon was George's son. > > As I have stated before, another wrinkle is that John and his brother Joseph > Bargel Nevill owned land on Cole's Creek and in old Greenville, MS where my > Nevels first lived. > > I am consolidating your posts so I can compare what you have sent to what I > have. I'll send what I have when I finish. > > Jan > > ______________________________ > > > >Here's another wrinkle. Have you ever noticed that there are a couple of > >Presley Nevills among my Solomon Nevill group in TN--the ones who are > >hanging around the George Nevill group? It could be that they had heard > >of Presley Nevill and wanted to name after a famous Nevill, or there > >could be a family connection. Don't know. > > > >Kathy > >ppskdd2@airmail.net > > > > > > --------------28C064763F69--

Hi Paddy, Thank you for the Canadian Neville listings you sent to the list. I found a Moses Nevil listing that you may already have. I am including it in the list below so you can see if you have any links. Since Neville is not a common name and Moses Neville even more uncommon, maybe there is a connection between the family in Beaufort, NC, and the one in Harford Co., MD which went to Ontario. Does anyone have a copy of Hugh Floyd's book, The Neville Family of Bullock Co., GA? I am sure some of the listings below are references to Floyd's GA line of Nevilles, particularly Jacob. Seeing him with Moses Nevil makes one curious. Could the Moses in NC also be a descendant of the "killed-by-Indians" James Neville of Northhampton Co., VA, if the James who shows up in NC in 1697 is indeed the same man as the one in VA? The following is taken from E. N. McAllister's book Nevill Lineage of Everett Nevill McAllister. Jan _____________________ 1697, June 5, JAMES NEVILLE, himself 2 passages, Dorothy his wife, Rebecca, Richard, James, John and Thomas Neville. (Records of Albemarle and Chowan Co. At Edenton, NC) 1725, April 16, FRANCES NEVILL, in NC will names John Collins and Lucy his wife, John Armour, Old Madam Britt. (NC Hist. and Gen. Reg.) 1729, Aug. 26, JAMES NEVIL, Beaufort Co., Hyde district, NC will mentions him as grandson of Cornelius Bell. (Grimes' Abstracts of NC Wills) 1735, April 20, FRANCIS NEVILL, in Little Rivers, NC will mentions legatees James Collins and wife Luce; John Armor ("My Bote"). (Grimes' Abstracts of NC Wills) 1745, March 6, JACOB NEVILL, in Beaufort Co., NC witnesses will of Robt. Turner. (Grimes', etc.) 1746, March 17, SAMUEL NEVELL, in Beaufort Co., NC witnesses will Samuel Slade. (Grimes', etc.) 1746, Dec. 4, RICHARD NEVIL, married Sarah Reding, Chowan Co., NC (North and South Carolina Marriage Records. Clemmens) 1753, July 17, WILLIAM NEVILLE, son of Jacob, is named as grandson of Edward Mathers in Craven Co., NC will (Grimes, etc.) 1757, Feb. 17, JACOB NEVIL, Jr. ] both were witnesses to Beaufort Co., NC will of MOSES NEVIL ] Thomas Williams. (Grimes, etc.) 1757, Oct. 24, BENJAMIN NEVIL, was witness to Edgecombe Co., NC will of John Marshall (Grimes, etc.) 1758, Nov. 15, BENJAMIN NEVIL, made will Halifax Co., NC, probated Sept. Court 1759. Names sons: Benjamin (plantation whereon I now live), Jesse (plantations in Edgecombe & Granville Counties); daughter Elizabeth Nevil; wife & executrix Elizabeth. Witnesses: John Marshall, Amy Marshall, Robert Sanders. (Grimes, etc.) ca. 1760, JOHN (NEUFVILLE) NEVIL, son of Lord John, of Nevil Park, Kent Co., Eng., from England to Charleston, SC. He was a patriot in Am. Rev. Married Martha Rogers. ca. 1763, BENJ. NEVILL, was one of signers of petition for repeal of tax on free negroes. He is listed with Edgecombe, NC group (NC Colonial State Records 6, 982-3) 1765, July 10, JOHN NEVILL, married Nathalie Orr, Charleston, Charleston SC (North and South Carolina Marriage Records. Clemmens) 1771, JOHN NEVILS, in Granville Co., NC, militia. (NC Col. State Recs. 11, 162) 1773, Feb. 16, JOHN NEVIL, witness to Beaufort Co., NC will of John Maule. (Grimes, etc.) 1776, WILLIAM NEVIL (NEVILL), justice of peace for Tryon Co., NC (NC Col. State Recs. 23, 995) 1778, July 20, LT. COL. NEVIL at court martial at Wrights Mill 1778, July 29, LT. COL. NEVIL, at White Plains. (NC Col. State Recs. 12, 508 and 515) 1780, May 12, PRESLEY NEVILLE, a Lt. Col. in VA line, taken prisoner. JOHN NEVILLE, a Col. in VA line, taken prisoner (NC Col. State Recs. 16, 671.) 1781 - 1785, DRURY NEVILL, shown on records in connection with army pay. (NC Col. State Recs. 17, 236) 1782, GEORGE NEVILL, shown as soldier in Lytle's Co. signed for 18 months service. (NC Col. State Recs. 17, 1127) 1784, WILLIAM NEVEL, appointed building commissioner for Tryon Co., NC, with Phelix Walker, James Whiteside, Alexander McConald and William Murray. (NC Col. State Recs. 24, 645) 1785, WILLIAM NEVIL (NEVILL), appointed building commissioner of Rutherford Co., NC, with Felix Walker, James Whiteside, Alexander M'Donald, and William M'Murray. (NC Col. State Recs. 24, 771) 1785, JOHN NEVILLE, in Granville Co., NC will mentions wife Elizabeth and children (Abstracts of NC Wills. Olds) 1788, GEORGE NEVELL, appointed building commissioner for Tennessee Co., NC, with George Bell, Francis Prince, Benjamin Harden, Sr., Jacob Pennington. (NC Col. State Recs. 24, 973) 1790, WM. NEVAL, Camden Co., NC, head of family that included 6 females and 4 slaves census WILLIAM NEVILL, Halifax Co., NC, head of family that included 1 male under 16, 2 females and 1 slave. BENJ'N NEVILL, Halifax Co., NC, head of family that included 2 males under 16, 2 females and 1 slave. JOHN NEVILL, Halifax Co., NC, head of family that includes only himself. BENJAMIN NEVIL, Halifax Co., NC, head of family that includes 2 males under 16, 2 females and 1 slave. YELVERTON NEVIL, Rutherford Co., NC, head of family that included 2 females JESSE NEVILL, St. Thomas' District, NC, on taxpayer's list for 1 white poll, 7 black polls, 133 acres. JESSE NEVILL, South Carolina, head of family that included 1 male under 16, 4 females, no slaves. WILLIAM NEVILLE, South Carolina, head of family that included 3 males below 16, 7 females and 3 slaves. 1809, Sept. 11, JESSE NEVILL, in will filed Hillsboro, NC court, states "I have already given of my estate to my first children that have married off and gone from me, that is to say, Goodwin Kirk, Elizabeth Barby (Barbee), Solomon Neville, Benjamin Neville and Jesse Neville, Jr.; shall be their full protion without having another shilling." [Note: This Jesse is the one found in Boddie's Historical So. Families; not the same as the Jesse who was son of William of Fauquier Co., VA in Tryon Co., NC and across border in SC)

> >At 06:37 PM 6/18/97 -0500, you wrote: >>-- [ From: JP Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- >>An Elizabeth Neville made her will 1747, her children mentioned in the >>will may not be Nevilles, as she seems to have formerly been the wife of >>Thomas Hampton who d. 1703. >______________ Hi group, Talk about coincidence! I was going to post a question about Elizabeth tonight, and there she was in JP's post. I just received some information about her from a Hampton descendant. JP, do you have a copy of her will or know anything else about her or which Neville she married? The Elizabeth Neville below had a father-in-law named Thomas Hampton who d. in 1703, not a husband. Her husband is shown as Francis, son of Thomas and Elizabeth (Bridle) Hampton. The person who sent me the following information said his cousin found it in a book in SC. I will try to find out the name of the book. Descendants of these people came to Holmes Co., MS in 1830's. That is where my Nevels lived, and on the 1880 census, my William Nevels stated that his mother was from VA and his father from SC. I am wondering if some male Nevilles were in the Newberry Co. area of SC where Francis and Elizabeth (Neville) Hampton were. Any facts or guesses? Jan Faulkner __________________________ >Have information on descendants of an Elizabeth Neville and a Francis >Hampton from Virginia and South Carolina. Descendants living in Holmes County, MS circa 1840. Subject is William Hampton b.1782 Newberry, SC d.1845 in >Holmes, MS married to Sarah Wilson Tucker. The now extinct town of Emory >in Northern part of the county is the setting. > >The Reverend Thomas Hampton II is the first, born 1623. (He was the son >of a William and Joane Hampton) > i.Thomas Jr. b.1654 d.1703 married to Elizabeth Bridle. > >Thomas and Elizabeth > i.Francis Hampton b.1690 d. 1747 married Elizabeth Neville (no dates) > >Francis and Elizabeth > i.John Hampton d.1790 married Lydia > >John and Lydia > i.William Hampton b.24 Dec 1782 Newberry, SC d.11 July 1845 Emory, MS. > married Sarah Wilson Tucker b.1796 Newberry, SC d. 29 June 1877. > >William and Sarah > i.Herbert Tucker Hampton b.22 Feb 1813 d.24 Dec 1889 married Mary >Ann Finch b.22 May 1817 d.29 July 1883. > >Herbert and Mary > i.Sarah Davis Hampton b.13 Jan 1857 d.18 Apr 1923 married William >Starke Melton b.5 Mar 1847 d.3 Feb 1905. >________________________________

JP and rest, Below is the name of the book with the Elizabeth Neville and Francis Hampton reference: >Jan, the name of the book is "The Venturers, The Hampton, Harrison, and >Earle Families of VA, SC, and TX" by Virginia G. Meynard. The passage I >have a copy of goes like this... Francis Hampton b. 1690 d.Dec 1747 Isle >of Wight Co. VA. He was married to Elizabeth Neville and they had 6 >children. In 1747 he deeded his possessions to his 3rd son Benjamin, >other children had moved to Frederick Co., VA. Other children were John, >Martha, Mary, Thomas and Benjamin. Hope this helps...Benny > >

-- [ From: JP Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Abstracts of Fauquier Co. VA Wills 1759-1800; John Gott George Neavil - 26 Feb 1774 wife Mary - land where I now live to the dividing line between my two daus. - Joanna Hathaway & Judith Barnett hereafter mentioned (except the mill & ten acres adjoining)... wife & sons-in-law: Mary Neavil, John Rosser, Solomon Jones, Ambrose Barnett, and James Hathaway - my mill on Cedar Run ... with ten acres of land adj. as tenants in common & not as joint tenants. sons-in-law: (those above) and Richard Hampton - all the debt that may be due on my books at the time of my death. dau. Mary Rosser - negroes son in law John Rosser - L25 - to be paid out of my book debts, instead of building for him as I've done for all the rest of my sons-in-law. dau. Betty Jones - negroes - all my tract of land on the Bull Run Mountain - during her life and then to be equally divided between my two grandsons George Jones & William Jones. dau. Lucy Calmes - 125a. being the land she now has in possession, the land to extend to the back line. Provision made for a child to be born to his dau. Lucy Calmes. dau. Ann Blackmore - the land whereon she now lives the same lying on the northside and adj. the land given my dau. Lucy Calmes... dau. Milly Barnett - the land whereon she now lives on the southside and adj. the land given to my dau. Lucy Calmes... gr.son: John Barnett, son of James Barnett - L20 to be paid him when he arrives at age 21, out of my book debts dau. Letty Helm - negroes gr. dau. Ann Helm - L20 to be paid at the day of marriage or age 21 dau.: Susanna Hampton - the tract of land she now lives on during her natural life, then to my two gr-daus. Charlotte & Joanna Hampton. dau. Joanna Hathaway - upper part of the tract whereon I now live [gives boundary discriptions]... on north side Cedar Run.. north side of main road... 241a. ... a pair of hand mill stones. dau. Judith Barnett - after my wife's decease the residue of the land whereon I now live... the profit arising from the labour of my carpenter Will (after my wife's sixth taken out) be annually and equally divided among John Rosser, Solomon Jones, James Hathaway and Ambrose Barnett, James Hathaway and Richard Hampton. wit: Richard Chichester, Sarah Chichester, Samuel Pharis, John Shurley, James Shurley. exors: Wife Mary & sons-in-law John Rosser, Solomon Jones, James Hathaway & Ambrose Barnett. proved: 27 Jun 1774 by oath of Richard Chichester, Samuel Pharis & John Shurley. James Hathaway & Ambrose Barnett granted cert. for obt. probate. returned 24 Oct 1774 - Capt George Neavil (inventory) app'd [appraised] by Fran's. Whiting, Richard Chichester, Jr., J. Brooke total eval: L865.8.9 1/2

-- [ From: JP Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Claire: Have you ever run into a gal named Sandy McIntire? She has your Neville/Boone line... if not, I can put you in touch with her.... Jeanne

-- [ From: JP Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- The Bohannon marriages are repeated in Joe Neville's book, and contributed to prof. researcher William F. Boogher, and notes that Boogher does not cite his sources. ~~Ren: You asked others about a William, bro. of Joseph 1707- . I don't know if you misspoke, or it someone here actually is working on such a line? Anyhow - Joseph doesn't have a bro. William [according to Joe Neville] and also according to Joe Neville's book, it was Joseph b. 1707's son John b. 1731 who m. Winifred Oldham. I suspect the missing Prince William records will really hurt us here. ~~Jan: Lots of Faulkners and Porters in Middlesex Co. where my George Neville marrys... you may end up searching here yet <g> The following Bohannon/Neville vital records are from Christ Church Middlesex co., VA: George Neville 1695-1774 m. 22 Jun 1725 Anna [Hannah] Symes. She was bapt. 29 Dec 1706 and the dau. of Thomas & Ann Symes [most likely, as they are the only Symes parents in the book] Hannah Neville d. 31 dec 1728. George Neville m. 2nd Mary Gibbs 20 Jun 1729, dau. of John & Mary Gibbs [inferred, they had a dau. Mary bapt. 22 Apr 1711]. John Gibbs d. 1726 , Mary Gibbs [prob. his wife] d. 1728. George Bohannon d. 23 Aug 1726 William Bohannon d. 1732 Henry Bohannon d . 1740 Elizabeth Neville dau. of John b. 1668 [and sister of above George] m. Joseph Bohannon [according to Boogher]. Christ Church records show Joseph & Elizabeth Bohannon had Neville Bohannon 1724, Sarah 1728, and William 1730. [there could be more children, or, its possible this is about the time the Nevilles and Bohannons moved on... ] Its possible Joseph was Elizabeth's cousin, as it is believed that her father John was m. to Elizabeth Bohannon ca 1685. Note that Joe Neville does not include Neville Bohannon's bro. & sister, yet knows that Neville Bohannon was b. in Middlesex Co., and contributes that info. to Boogher. Makes me think Boogher didn't do his homework - how could he find one birth/baptism, and not the other two? Now - I have a question: do any of you researchers who have the James Neville 1686-1752 m. Lucy Thomas 2nd, line, know who his first wife was? [he d. Albemarle Co.] I don't have that line, but wondered if anyone ever found the first wife.

In a message dated 97-06-18 18:39:37 EDT, NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com writes: << It appears most of us are working from the Joe Neville book, so we all have the same problem - lack of proof. The sparcity of records forces us to assume some relationships by inference; hopefully, eventually we may find documentation. >> I am relatively knew to this line of my ancestry, having only discovered it recently. What is this book, and where can I find a copy? - Missi Nussbaum, descended of George Neaville Neville, 1695.

-- [ From: JP Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- I'm addressing this to all as I assume all are interested in Ren's questions. It appears most of us are working from the Joe Neville book, so we all have the same problem - lack of proof. The sparcity of records forces us to assume some relationships by inference; hopefully, eventually we may find documentation. Note that Joe did not have that marriage of George and Hannah Symes - he only knew that George's wife was Hannah _______. I found that, and the baptismal records of Mary and Betty in Christ Church Middlesex published records. I have the book, and there are a number of Bohannons mentioned in it. I will share them in time. I am desc. of Mary Neville and John Rosser who eventually were in Fauquier Co . VA. John was b. King George Co., and was willed land by his father Richard 1735, in Pr. William Co., where George Neville had land by 1730. -------------------- >George Nevill of Pr. William Co. 275a. in Pr. William Co. adj. Col. Page, Col. Carter, Wm Hackney, Mr DeButts, Baldwin's line. 22 Mar 1730 [note George is already "of" Pr. Wm by the time that deed is filed.] source - VA Northern neck Land Grants 1694-1742 by Gerturde E Gray. ------------------ Prince William Co. created 1731 from Stafford Co. The Register of Overwharton Parish, Stafford Co. VA 1723-1758 has no Nevilles or Bohannons. ------------------- Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight by John Boddie: [paraphrased] William Neville, 1st of family to Isle of Wight; land located on borders of I of W & Nansemond by Mar 1642/3 near Robert Pitt & Capt John Upton. William was dead before 25 Apr 1665 when Roger Neville sold to Arthur Skinner, his father in law, all claims to the estate of "William Neville my father." 16 May 1665 John Neville of Nansemond sold to arthur Skinner 125a. 1689 John Neville & wife Elizabeth made a deed of gift to Benjamin Beale & his wife Martha, evidently their daughter. The deed is witnessed by John Neville Jr. The deed provided that if Benjamin & his wife died without issue the land was to go to Benjamin Neville, son of the donor. John Neville sold land on the Western Branch, I of W, to John Johnson 1698. Arthur Skynner sold to Thomas Pitt the plantation where Skinner now lives, being 1/2 of 500a. formerly in the tenure of Thomas Butler & now Arthur Skynner & Anthony Holliday; including 125a. granated by John Neville & wife Elizabeth to Arthur Skynner. 8 Feb 1671. [I include this, as it sounds like Nevilles did not live on this land, but that Skinner, and Butler before him, were tenants on the land while in Neville ownership, until Nevilles granted it to Skinner ] Benjamin Neville held 475a. in Nansemnd 1704. A Benjamin Neville made a will in NC and many of the name in that state are probably desc. from Benjamin & Roger Neville. John Neville Jr made his will in I of W in 1726, probated 1730. He left eight daus. & one son, John, to whom he gave all of his land. This John made a will 1740 and named sons John, Thomas & Joseph, and dau. penelope . An Elizabeth Neville made her will 1747, her children mentioned in the will may not be Nevilles, as she seems to have formerly been the wife of Thomas Hampton who d. 1703. The inv. of Joseph Neville was filed I of W 1782. John, son of John Neville of the will of 1740, is said to have moved to Pr Wm or Fauquier Co. where a will was probated 1768. Storm coming. more later. The Quit Rents of VA 1704: Benjamin Nevill - Nansemond Co. 475a. John Nevill - Kingston Parish, Gloucester Co., 300a. John Nevill - Isle of Wight Co., 433a. Roger Nevill - Isle of Wight Co., 200a.

AH! Finally someone posts on William Neville's line. Thank you, Jeanne. The Dallas library has recently acquired a reprint of a 1930's book of Isle of Wight wills that starts in 1640's. It has lots of Nevills in it. Kathy

Hi group......need some help and since I don't have all the "tools" thought one of you might be able to help me. I want to write (I think) to the department at the State of Kansas to get a copy of my grandmothers birth certificate and marriage license (Levenworth). Seem to recall I did this to Levenworth county some years back and they couldn't find it or didn't try. I ran into some info (marriage lic #) that might be of additional value to them so would like to give it another try. Does anyone have the name, address, proceedure etc for getting info from Kansas.........thank you! Ren Neville

James Neville b 1 Sep 1741 , Va married Sarah joyce Blackburn was a pvt Va PnSR and is documented in DAR Mary Agnes Wilking McGee # 288394 Wanda Wilking Ehrhart #328693 Mine are pending-but I am going under Jeremiah Boone as primary and James Neville as supplimental Let me know if I can be of help to anyone I was in CAR, and DAR as a guest for years I thought my CAR # just transferred!!! I am now getting copies of marriages, divorces, deaths--just updating documentation NS-DAR Registrar General Admin Bldg 1776 D St NW WAshington, DC 2006-5392 to get papers Claire Abel reply to at claireabel@juno.com See my genealogy at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1946

Hello everyone: My name is Paddy and I have just joined the group. I descend from a Moses NEVILL who migrated to Ontario Canada in 1794 from Harford Co., MD. He and his wife Elizabeth MITCHELL were in a group which included his brother John NEVILL and his wife Martha MITCHELL and Thomas WELCH and his wife Mary MITCHELL. The 3 Mitchell women were the daughters of Thomas MITCHELL of Harford, MD. and his wife Hannah OSBORN. Hannah, a widow, was also in the group. Moses was said to have had 6 children, of which Kent, Thomas and John are known and there was possibly a Martha and a Margaret. John Nevill and Martha MITCHELL had 2 children: Ephrian Cole MITCHELL and possibly Mary NEVILL. There were other Nevill(e) families in early Ontario which I have not connect- ed to mine. They were: James NEVILLE or NEVILLS as he was known was from New Jersey. He came to Ontario about 1787 with a wife Eve DeShired and children. A character certificate presented by his neighbours was signed in Sussex Co. N.J. He had sons: Abraham b. 1780; William, Isaac, James and Jacob and daughters: Agnes Nancy, Rebecca, and Phoebe. Edward NEVILLE, b. c1753, United Empire Loyalist. I don't know where he was from; he had children: George, Edward, Robert, James and Frances and his wife was Catherine. If anyone is interested I can look for his land petition which may give where he was living before he migrated or his military unit. There is another James NEVILLE, referred to as Major James. He was born c1789 and was married to Elizabeth (MANN). He could be a s/o of one of my Nevill brothers but the names of his family don't seem to fit. I don't know where he was born but suspect a N.J. connection. He could have been here and he could also be a son of the James above. I don't know the names of his children except Alma. Other Neville(s) buried in the same cemetery as Major James are: Arthur W. Nevills b.c1792; Charles L. Nevills b. c1822, Matilda Nevills b. c1816, Rhoda Martin a daughter of Joseph & Sophie NEVILLS b. c1842. That's about it for the early ones. I thought I would post this in case one of you is missing someone who could have turned up here. Paddy

Searching for William D. Nevels/Nevill who was born c. in 1842 in Tennessee. His mother is Martha E. Nevill who may have remarried by 1860. In 1850 they are living in Tishmingo Co., Mississippi. Don't know what happened to this William Nevill. Do not know where they moved, who William married, who his children were or if he lived to adulthood. Do you have an unidentified William Nevill in you files? He may even be living in a household with a different surname in 1860. Thanks for looking.... Kathy Duncan ppskdd2@airmail.net

Searching for Susan P. Nevels/Nevill born c. 1844 in Tennessee. Her mother is Martha E. Nevels and they are living in Tishmingo Co., Mississippi in 1850. Does any one have an unidentified Susan in their files? I do not know where these people moved, who Susan married or who her children were. Possibly she died before reaching adulthood. Thanks for looking, Kathy Duncan ppskdd2@airmail.net

Any one still out there? Looking for three lost Nevill boys. Check your files for male Nevills born between 1835 and 1840 in TN. Do you have any that you need to identify parents for? Their whereabouts on the 1850 census is unknown. They may be living with G.D. [Granderson] Nevill, or they may be in a household with a different surname. Their mother is Martha E.________ who might have remarried by 1850. They may not have all been in the same household. Thanks for looking, Kathy Duncan ppskdd2@airmail.net

Glenn gave me a name and address of one Della Morgan Martin who was successful in proving some of her Neville line to the DAR. I questioned her specificly about Joseph Neville Sr and his son William which many of you claim to be descended from and she reports. Her application was denied by DAR and they quote: "To date we have established only two children of Joseph, Sr. in our records, namely Mary and George Jr. Therefore we must have documentation from primary sources such as land and probate records in order to verify your supplemental" As I recall, the world has been stuck here for 10 years anyway. Most of us take the "assumed" position that we go on to John B: 1612 through John then James without "proof" and now we are looking to England for the Thorsley connection. Once again, I've seen too many Georges and Richards mentioned as possible patriarchs for these people. Anybody have a data bank on some of these other possibilities..........take care Ren Neville.....PS. Anybody know the address for SAR and how to apply, think it would be sorta cute to be a Son of the Revolution as apposed to a son of a......oh well........

-- [ From: JP Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- ------- FORWARD, Original message follows ------- > Date: Wednesday, 11-Jun-97 01:24 PM > > From: JP Barton \ PRODIGY: (ELXC78A) > To: Jdfaulk \ Internet: (jdfaulk@hop-uky.campus. mci.net) > cc: JP Barton \ PRODIGY: (ELXC78A) > cc: Hfagley \ America On-Line: (hfagley) > cc: James Drumm \ PRODIGY: (YGHU05A) > cc: Janedoe405 \ America On-Line: (janedoe405) > cc: Ed Danison \ Internet: (nedzork@coil.com) > cc: James Drumm \ PRODIGY: (YGHU05A) > cc: Susy Martin \ PRODIGY: (jdsw19c) > > Subject: Neville of MD/VA > > my Neville lines: > > {Jan - I am also forward copies to a few friends of mine, none of which have > this line} > > John Neville b. ca 1612 Eng., to MD 1633/4, m. 1st Bridget Thorsley, Eng. > / > James Neville b. ca 1640, prob. MD, m. Elizabeth [Margaret?] _____ by 1661, > when son John was born. > / > John Neville 1661 MD-1773 VA - m. Elizabeth, dau. of Duncan Bohannon of > Spotsylvania & Caroline Co. VA. > / > George Nevill b. ca 1695 VA, d. by 1774 in Fauquier Co., formerly Prince > William Co. George m. 1st Hannah Symes, 22 Jun 1725, Christ Church, > Middlesex Co., and had > / > **Mary bapt 20 Nov 1726, Christ Church,Middlesex Co.- m. John Rosser > Betty/Betsy bapt 3 Dec 1728, Christ Church, Middlesex Co., m. Solomon Jones > ----- > George m. 2nd?, Mary Gibbs and had > / > Joanna - m. 1771 - James Hathaway > Judith - m. 1766 - Ambrose Barnett > Lucy 1732-1789 m. Wm Calmes [note to follow] > Ann 1735-1826 m. 1756Thomas Blackmore > Lettice [Letty] m. 1764 Wm Helm > Susannah b. 1740 [Sukey] m. 1761 Richard Hampton, jr > Milly m. James Barnett > (no sons) > [note - Lucy Neavil Calmes is recorded as dau. of George Neavil and Ann > Burroughs. Its possible she and maybe Ann, were daus. of Ann Burroughs, and > Mary Gibbs is a 3rd wife. I probably have more notes on this, somewhere] > > All daus. were evidently m. in Prince William and Fauquier counties. > > George Neavil [spelling changed in Fauquier] ran an ordinary in Prince William, > later Fauquier Co. His brother Joseph had run an ordinary in Spotsylvania, near > Fredericksburg ca 1730s, and also ran one in Fauquier. Joseph, b. 1707, m. Ann > Bohannon. He d. Hampshire Co. VA. > > Will of George Neavil dated 26 Feb 1774, Fauquier Co.: > > Wife Mary; daus. Joanna Hathaway & Judith Barnett... wife Mary and sons in > law John Rosser, Solomon Jones, Ambrose Barnett and James Hathaway, my mill on > Cedar Run.. tenants in common... > sons in law [above, and Richard Hampton] > dau. Mary Rosser > son in law John Rosser... L25 to be paid out of my book debts, instead of > building for him as I've done for all the rest of my sons in law. > dau. Betty Jones... tract on Bull Run Mtn, then to gr-sons George and William > Jones. > dau. Lucy Calmes -125a. now in her possession.. provision made for child to be > born to Lucy... > dau. Ann Blackmore - land where she now lives adj. Lucy... > dau. Milly Barnett - land where she now lives adj. Lucy ... > gr-son John Barnett son of James... > dau. Letty Helm... > dau. Susanna Hampton.. tract of land she now lives on, then to my gr- daus. > Charlotte 7 Joanna Hampton > dau. Joanna Hathaway - upper part of tract whereon I now live on Carters line, > Duff Green dec'd's line, and my own land on the north side of Cedar Run, 241a. > dau. Judith Barnett - after wife's decease, residue of land where I now live > ... > > ------------------ > > My ancestor Mary Neavil of George & Sarah m. John Rosser/Rosier of King George > Co., son of Richard, who was in [now] King George by 1680, not far from where > the Nevilles and Balls lived, during this period. All three names, plus others > they married are also found across the Potomac River in MD. [Richard might be > the son of John - there are a half dozen or so John's floating around] > > Mary & John Rosser's dau. Letty m. Edward Ball, desc' of Joseph, brother of > Mary Ball [mom of GW] also of the Northern Neck. > > I also have Elizabeth Ball of Middlesex [not sure of connection] who m. Joseph > Smith of Middlesex, and relocated to Pr. Wm/Fauquier, where their dau. Hannah > Smith b. 1740 m. William Ball, son of Spencer, and father of my Edward Ball > who m. Letty Rosser 1792 in Fauquier Co. It was Letty & Edward, and siblings, > including some Nevilles, who went to Maysville, KY. I came across a fellow > named Dennis [ah hah!] Neville years ago, maybe 1990, on Prodigy, who had those > KY Nevilles - maybe I can find his data. > > In Old Rappahannock Co., William Ball m. Margaret Williamson, and John Rosier > m. her sister Mary Williamson, before 1672, when a deed is filed ref. a > bequeath of land to both girls by Col. Wm Underwood, the girls' step- father. > [I figure both of these males are going to end up being mine, just to > complicate things more <g>] > > The above Joseph Smith left a will in Fauquier Co. dated 1793 that mentions > his dau. Jane PORTER. [I think Jane is wife of John, dec'd by 1799, when he is > mentioned in father Thomas Porter's will] > > Another ancestor, Anderson Cockrell leaves a will in Fauquier 1791, wit. by > John PORTER > ----- > > Jan - that should keep you busy for awhile <g> > > Jeanne ------- FORWARD, End of original message -------

-- [ From: JP Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Hi all: First, I would like to ask for a few replies advising me that I am using the correct/incorrect address to write to the "group." [I use Prodigy's Email Connection and don't seem to have it set up for groups, at the moment] I sent Diane my Neville line [as it seems to be, for the time being] and will forward it to anyone interested: John Neville ca 1612-1665 of MD down to George Neavil ca 1695-1774, d. Fauquier Co. VA. Among other sources, I have the 350 year history of the Nevilles by Joe Neville of KS., if anyone wants a lookup. I don't think I found any errors in the book that I recall, but certainly there are many omissions. Jeanne Porter Barton - JP Barton@Prodigy.com Prince George's Co. MD

hello. I am new to the list, researching my Neville ancestors in late 1600s VA. I am trying to find the parents of George Neaville Neville, husband to Hannah Symes, father of Betty Neaville Neville...George was born roughly 1695, Hannah was born roughly1699, and their daughter born Dec.3,1728. Does anyone know anything about these people, by chance? Missi Nussbaum Nmissi@aol.com