Don Campbell & others, I live in Springfield, MO. Our library has tons of books on Missouri from various counties. If you can provide specific info., as I have time, I could check in some county histories. Also, we have Missouri census and soundex for all Missouri counties up through 1920. I could check there also. Best Wishes, Glenn Gohr ggohr01@mail.orion.org

Hi Ren, I checked my files and this is what I have on Mary "Mollie" Neville: Mary "Molly" Neville,b.7 Nov 1760, Fauquier Co.,VA,d.21 Jul 1821, St.Louis Co.,MO, marr 14 Dec 1778, Rutherford Co., NC, Thomas Roy Musick Notes: Info rec Apr 1996 from Elaine Musick of TX. Neville-Jones-Giles-Spence-Harrison Families and Collateral Lines 1600-1992,By Shepherd Spence Neville Brown, 1993: pg.1: Buried: Fee Fee Cemetery near Fee Fee Baptist Church in St. Louis Co.,MO at Bridgeton, MO. She has no headstone, but it is stated in Missouri Baptist Biographies that she is buried by her husband. With the name Mary, she probably was named after her grandmother, Mary Oldham, the mother of Winifred. See page on Thomas Roy Musick for information on the children and other comments. (Sorry, I don't have those pages) it goes on to say:" I have found no concrete evidence that Mary is the daughter of William Neville: to date, no will has been found for William Neville. However, a number of published articles say Thomas Roy Musick fought in the Rev. War and served under his father-in-law (some say William Neville, others say James Neville). Thomas Roy Musick's Rev. War records in the National Archives shows he served under William Neville (James Neville never lived in NC.). Mary Neville and Thomas Roy Musick were married in Rutherford Co., NC and the William Neville family (including his sons) was the only one in the area. Also, they moved to SC and to Kentucky about the same time the William Neville family did; there, their paths split with the Musicks going to Missouri and William Neville later moving to White Co., TN. Then, too, Mary named her first son William, which traditionally, was named after one of the grandparents. Of course this proves nothing but this is what I have on the lady at present. I just did the download you sent and it worked and I didn't mess it up. I am really proud of myself. Now all I have to do is learn how to cut and paste and I would have to keep retyping all this stuff. One step at a time I guess. Hope this helps muddy the water a little more. Happy Hunting, Jean

Hi everyone. I'm new to the list and have been lurking for a while and have decided to participate. I'm just starting out on the Nevilles with my Grandmother (Effie Neville Brown b. circa 1872) and have very little to go on. She and her family homesteaded in Colorado from MO. I beleive the Neville family moved west with the Brown family to near Fort Morgan in eastern Colorado around 1911. I'm not sure if MO was just a brief stop before continuing west or if they lived there for some time. She had at least four other sisters and performed as singers. The other sisters were Bertha, Mable (Rosener), _____, ______. They may have had a brother Kenneth. Thanks, Don

Hi Everyone I just got back from Indiana and did not know until the day I left that Ft. Wayne Ind has the 2nd largest genealogy library in the world. I did find Jeremiah Boone and Joice Neville's graves. The gravemarkers are broken into 3 pieces and the whole Boone cemetery needs the fence redone and markers put back in place. I had also found another relative's grave from 1861 death date. His original stone was pieced together lying flat in cement and his new one not only had his birth and death dates -- but his father and mother's (maiden name) too!! I also found another relative whose time of women's lib was 200 yrs ago! His name was on one side Her maiden name was on the other I made rubbing of most of the tombstones, just in case my pictures did not come out right. This turned out to be a life saver in at least a couple of shots. I also found that bleach, water and a stiff scrub brush-- oh don't forget a bucket and some bottled water in case the cemetry does not have water, was very valuable in cleaning off the mold and algae so that you could read the stones. Just wetting the lighter ones helps too. .Claire Abel reply to at claireabel@juno.com See my genealogy at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1946

Group......got a small problem. I have a "Martin" line that comes off the marriage of one Thomas Roy Musick b: 1757 m. Mary "Mollie" Neville B: 11-7-1760 in Amherst Co., VA. The parents of "Mollie" shown are William Neville b: 1739 and Winifred Oldham b: 1738 +/-. My problem is that I do not show this "Mollie" as one of Williams daughters. Does anyone out there have her listed as a daughter, or does anyone know who's daughter she is if not that of William and Winifred? cya Ren ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

Glen, Hi, Great work.I was hoping you could follow through.I'm a NEVILLE "rooter" from north of your border but would like to have a copy.Will send the money order,self addressed envelope and extra for postage if you think you can get one off to me.I realize there may be direct decendents of this line who you should supply first so I will just hope there's one left over for me. Thanks, Christopher Chapeski ---------- > From: Glenn Gohr <ggohr01@mail.orion.org> > To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: 370-Year History - $10 > Date: July 17, 1997 11:01 PM > > I tried to post this message to the Neville List yesterday (7/17/97), but > the List was down. Rootsweb informed me that the internet on the West > Coast was having problems at that time. Hopefully no one's messages from > the last 24 hrs. were lost. If you haven't seen your message posted, then > try it again. > ______ > > Hi, Neville Researchers: > > I have taken my original copy of A 370-YEAR HISTORY > OF ONE NEVILLE FAMILY (1612-1982), by Joseph B. Neville, > 1988, and made copies enough for everyone who is interested. > The book is spiral bound with 8 1/2 by 11 in. size paper. It is > 175 (9 intro. pages, plus 166 pages of text). A few illustrations > are included, and Joe Neville gives quite a few footnotes to > verify his long-standing research. > Joe was elderly and had suffered a stroke before the > printing of the book. A few typos may be noted, but that is > understandable. Much of the original text was shrunk by Joe to > better present his material, although this makes some of the > material a little hard to read. But this is the best and most up-to- > date book on the Neville family thus far. Joe was aware of more > descendants in each line (including my own line) but his > methodology was more in a chart format, and it made it > extremely difficult for him to add new descendants into the list. > He went generation by generation. There is no index to the > book, and that would be a massive project. > I have looked in my earlier correspondence with Joe > Neville, who is now deceased. > In March 1988 he offered the book for sale at a > prepublication price of $15.00. He offered discounts if ordering > more than one copy. He also encouraged people to donate > copies to libraries. He gave a discounted price of $10.00 to > anyone who would donate a copy to a library. I'm sure there are > many copies already in libraries around the country, although I > have not checked the OCLC listing to find out where. Joe > Neville mentions that copies would be donated to the LDS > Library in Salt Lake City and The Filson Club Library in > Louisville, KY. > Joe Neville said that he would not be reprinting his book > after copies were sold out. I've also tried in vain to locate R. > Geoffrey Neville of Avon, Massachusetts, who assisted him in > the publication of the book, to see if any copies might exist even > at this late date. R. Geoffrey Neville could not be located. > Joe Neville, on his title page says this: "Any person > wishing to copy from this book, by photostatic means or > otherwise, has my permission to do so, PROVIDING the copy is > for his own use, and not for sale." > There is no formal copyright disclaimer or notice in the > book. > I was very reluctant to reproduce the book because of > this statement, but after much discussion with Ren Neville and > others in the group, it was decided that if I could offer the books > at a reasonable price that no one would quibble over Joe > Neville's original statement. > If copied by the photocopy method, it would take one > hours of standing at a copy machine to make one copy. Also > the price would most likely be between 7 and 10 cents per > page. That cost would amount to about $20.00 easily for > someone to reproduce a single copy. > Through the offset method (same method that Joe > Neville originally used), I have made 40 copies of his book. > Even though this is a copy of a copy, I am very pleased with the > result. The pages came out very clear. And I was able to get a > very good price on the printing, binding, etc. In fact, my price is > lower than Joe Neville's original price was back in 1988. > I am offering copies of the book for $10.00 each. And > that includes postage. All I will need is your mailing address > and a check or money order for that amount. If you have any > questions on this, let me know. > Sincerely, > > Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) > ggohr01@mail.orion.org > ggohr@juno.com > > > My mailing address is: > > Glenn Gohr > 1040 E. McCanse St. > Springfield, MO 65803-3613 > Ph. 417-833-2814 (evenings) > >

Glenn.....your offer to reproduce the newsletters is accepted with my gratitude. Although my "copies" are good, they would not be as good as duplicating from your "originals" and besides, I know you can get a better price than my local printer type. GROUP, please address your interest in getting copies of these valuable letters directly to Glenn. Glenn, I can use at least (2), and what else do you have on your book shelf. Thank you Glenn for steping up to the plate and making this possible for us.........cya......Ren ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

Noticed Ren Neville's excitement and interest in having the newsletters republished. I have a complete set of the newsletters which Joe Neville had given me back in the early 1980s. These are original copies. Also included with the newsletters, Joe had sent me THE BATTLE OF NEVILL'S CROSS by Henry J. Swallow, a 20-page booklet originally published in 1885. It tells the history of a famous battle in English history which occurred on Oct. 17, 1346 and involved Lord Ralph Nevill. Apparently the booklet was sent out to all subscribers. Joe sent me my set of newsletters free of charge as he appreciated all the info. I had sent to him. I was not a member of the SocJND, as I did not contact Joe until after he quit publishing the newsletters. Joe also sent me a complimentary copy of his 360-Year History of the Neville family. That book is arranged differently than his 370-Year History and does contain some valuable information not found in the 2nd volume. I am willing to get copies made of the newsletters. They are on legal size paper, front and back. They do have close margins, so most likely they could not be bound. Also, if there is any interest, I could check in to duplicating my 360-Year History. Joe Neville is deceased and has no descendants. I'd also be glad to duplicate just THE BATTLE OF NEVILL'S CROSS for anyone who is interested. Chances are that I can get things duplicated cheaper in Missouri than what can be done in California. But I'm open to about anything. P.S. I've already received orders for 20 of the 370-Year History books, so my stock is going fast. Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) 1040 E. McCanse St. Springfield, MO 65803-3613 Ph. 417-833-2814 ggohr01@mail.orion.org

At 03:21 PM 7/16/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Jan...... >BIG FAVOR. Check those birth dates again from John Neville's bible. I >have: >Susannah b: 10-9-1759 and dying the same day. It is possible this was >10-9-1757, but I doubt that it was two year exactly from birth to death >(10-9-1757 to 10-9-1759). Susannah (2) I show born on 10-14-1763 and >died three weeks later on 11-9-1763 rather than being born of >10-14-1760. Probably not important, but would like for you to check >those dates so I can make corrections. Ren, I checked the dates, and in Hawkins' notes they are as I posted them earlier, but since the notes were copied by Hawkins, he could have made a mistake when he copied the information in 1899. (It just occured to me that a hundred years ago John Hawkins was probably having some of the same thoughts or conversations that we are having about the Neville line.) Where is John Nevill's Bible? Does the DAR Library have a copy of his Bible record that you can check? It's possible that the Bible is in the Filson Club in Louisville, KY. They have a wonderful library and archives. Perhaps the National Society of SAR, also based in Louisville, has a copy of the record. >Milly and Amelia were twins, both born 4-4-1763 (in winchester). Milly >died at birth or in infancy, Amelia (not Milly) went on to marry Isaac >Craig (at least this is the way I have picked it up) Hawkins lists only Milly Neavill's birth 4 April 1763 and Milley Nevill's marriage to Major Isaac Craig in 1785. Is it possible that Amelia's nickname was Milly? Since the heading at the top of the page states that this information was copied from John Nevill's Bible, again it seems that a look at the Bible would help (easy for me to say). I am taking my mother to Lexington, KY to do some genealogy work, and we may have a chance to run over to Frankfort. I think she wants to look up something at the Ky. Historical Society there. If we do get over there, I will check the above file again and see if I can learn anything else. I am sending you a copy of the papers which were in the file since the information relates mainly to your line. Jan

Ren. Thank you for your quick reply to my questions about Joe, Jr. and Sr. and about Richard. Kicking this information around may eventually cause some new information to surface which will help some of us. Does anyone have access to Frederick Co., VA, records? Jan ____________________ At 02:17 PM 7/17/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Jan....excuse the mistake on Sr. vs. Jr. As I mentioned, was winging >it, sorry if I caused a problem.......! My answer to your questions is >"no" on most counts. I have not seen any proof that links Joseph to >Joseph, the baptism could have been any Joseph and your right, why not >Richard, George, Pete or Harry. As I've mentioned before, my grandfather >thought the family came out of a George. With "my line" I only feel real >comfortable through John b: 1731.

I tried to post this message to the Neville List yesterday (7/17/97), but the List was down. Rootsweb informed me that the internet on the West Coast was having problems at that time. Hopefully no one's messages from the last 24 hrs. were lost. If you haven't seen your message posted, then try it again. ______ Hi, Neville Researchers: I have taken my original copy of A 370-YEAR HISTORY OF ONE NEVILLE FAMILY (1612-1982), by Joseph B. Neville, 1988, and made copies enough for everyone who is interested. The book is spiral bound with 8 1/2 by 11 in. size paper. It is 175 (9 intro. pages, plus 166 pages of text). A few illustrations are included, and Joe Neville gives quite a few footnotes to verify his long-standing research. Joe was elderly and had suffered a stroke before the printing of the book. A few typos may be noted, but that is understandable. Much of the original text was shrunk by Joe to better present his material, although this makes some of the material a little hard to read. But this is the best and most up-to- date book on the Neville family thus far. Joe was aware of more descendants in each line (including my own line) but his methodology was more in a chart format, and it made it extremely difficult for him to add new descendants into the list. He went generation by generation. There is no index to the book, and that would be a massive project. I have looked in my earlier correspondence with Joe Neville, who is now deceased. In March 1988 he offered the book for sale at a prepublication price of $15.00. He offered discounts if ordering more than one copy. He also encouraged people to donate copies to libraries. He gave a discounted price of $10.00 to anyone who would donate a copy to a library. I'm sure there are many copies already in libraries around the country, although I have not checked the OCLC listing to find out where. Joe Neville mentions that copies would be donated to the LDS Library in Salt Lake City and The Filson Club Library in Louisville, KY. Joe Neville said that he would not be reprinting his book after copies were sold out. I've also tried in vain to locate R. Geoffrey Neville of Avon, Massachusetts, who assisted him in the publication of the book, to see if any copies might exist even at this late date. R. Geoffrey Neville could not be located. Joe Neville, on his title page says this: "Any person wishing to copy from this book, by photostatic means or otherwise, has my permission to do so, PROVIDING the copy is for his own use, and not for sale." There is no formal copyright disclaimer or notice in the book. I was very reluctant to reproduce the book because of this statement, but after much discussion with Ren Neville and others in the group, it was decided that if I could offer the books at a reasonable price that no one would quibble over Joe Neville's original statement. If copied by the photocopy method, it would take one hours of standing at a copy machine to make one copy. Also the price would most likely be between 7 and 10 cents per page. That cost would amount to about $20.00 easily for someone to reproduce a single copy. Through the offset method (same method that Joe Neville originally used), I have made 40 copies of his book. Even though this is a copy of a copy, I am very pleased with the result. The pages came out very clear. And I was able to get a very good price on the printing, binding, etc. In fact, my price is lower than Joe Neville's original price was back in 1988. I am offering copies of the book for $10.00 each. And that includes postage. All I will need is your mailing address and a check or money order for that amount. If you have any questions on this, let me know. Sincerely, Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) ggohr01@mail.orion.org ggohr@juno.com My mailing address is: Glenn Gohr 1040 E. McCanse St. Springfield, MO 65803-3613 Ph. 417-833-2814 (evenings)

In a message dated 97-07-17 21:00:53 EDT, you write: << At 10:44 AM 7/11/97 -0400, you wrote: I am a descendant of George's through his daughter Betty Neville, who married Solomon Jones. Soon I will get my website up and post my lines there. Missy, In my notes, I show a Solomon Jones in Orange Co., NC. Is this the same one who is your ancestor. Orange Co. was home to the "other" Nevilles - the William/Benjamin/Jesse/Solomon Neville line. >> Frankly, I dont yet know where he wound up, only that in Virginia he wed Betty Neville, and Oct. 4, 1753 they had George Jones. He wed a Mary Rhodes in Virginia,I have assumed he lived out his life there, but any of them could have moved several times. George's son John R. (1798) went to Henry County Ky and married a local girl, Zina Ford, who also traces her roots back into Virginia. They had my grandmother's mother in Henry County in 1832. But perhaps the family moved around, or visited other cousins. Its hard to tell without more flesh on the bones of these old records. Missi Nussbaum Nmissi@aol.com

In a message dated 97-07-17 17:41:19 EDT, you write: << I remember Tignall Jones being a name in the book (Tingle a variation of spelling). I think there is also a Tignall Jones in Montgomery Co., TN where there were Nevills from two lines: the Fauquier Co., VA line who went to Rutherford Co., NC and Greenville Co., SC (same place; NC/SC border disputed and finally settled); (2) the Nevilles (Solomon,etc.)from Granville/Halifax/Orange Co. area. The Stewarts are loosely or closely connected with the Nevill family in Fauquier Co., VA, in Montgomery Co., TN, and in Jefferson Co., MS. I think I have also seen a connection in KY, but it may be the one you found. I will check files for this. If you don't have the above info on Tignall Jones, I will check my files for him and post the information. >> Hello. I have never seen the spelling Tignall before, does it derive from the surname Tingle? And are you aware of any other Tingle connections to the family? My line in Henry County, descended through George Neville's daughter Betty who wed Solomon Jones, is absolutely riddled with Tingles. Please do post the info you mentioned, you never know, it could lead somewhere. Missi Nussbaum Nmissi@aol.com

Thirty minutes ago I received in the mail copies of THE SOCIETY OF JOHN NEVILLE NEWSLETTERS starting from vol.1, no.l dated January 1976 and continuing through issue no. 29 dated November 1980, to include a copy of the SOJND Aritcles of Association. It would appear that these are all in tack with the exception of issue no. 11 which is missing. Most of the writing is very tight on the left and right hand margins which might make it difficult to have the publications bound. This consists of several hundred pages of NEVILLE INFORMATION (as sent in by the membership) with pictures, charts all sorts of good stuff. I am going to take it to the printer tomarrow and get an estimate of the cost to copy the "pile" and will let you know. Those of you who are interested in receiving a copy of these newslettes, please let me know! Glenn....as a former member of SOJND, do you have issue number 11? Ren Neville ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

Hi group.....there are a "ton" of Hamptons claiming to come off of Francis Hampton, (son of Thomas Hampton Jr. and Elizabeth Bridle) and Elizabeth Neville b: abt 1691 dau. of John Neville b: 1661 and Elizabeth Bohannan. In my records I only show Elizabeth married to Thomas Faulkner and Joseph Bohannan (no proofs!) I have seen this list of outlaws in two seperate piles. Can anyone tell me if Elizabeth was married to Francis Hampton, Thomas Faulkner or Joseph Bohannan or none of the above, all of the above or some of the above.....thanx. PS. think I asked this back in May but can't remember if it got through or not. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

Hi Jan....excuse the mistake on Sr. vs. Jr. As I mentioned, was winging it, sorry if I caused a problem.......! My answer to your questions is "no" on most counts. I have not seen any proof that links Joseph to Joseph, the baptism could have been any Joseph and your right, why not Richard, George, Pete or Harry. As I've mentioned before, my grandfather thought the family came out of a George. With "my line" I only feel real comfortable through John b: 1731. If he had a brother George who married Rachael Earl, hey, who knows, he could have been named after his father? Or how about the reported son of Joseph Sr., Richard. I don't know if he was a Neville or Newell, he too could have been named after his father. You know, I wasn't around when the SOJND was in bloom, but this membership "seemed" to think that all these critters went to John and Bridget and I often wonder why, surely they must have had something to base their heritage on. It might take awhile, but I called the Librarian at the Hardy County Library in Moorefield W. VA and also sent her a letter. I requested copies of all 13 of those letters plus anything else she could come up with concening the Neville family. Hopefully I will get a reply and when I do, will make copies of all the information to those interested in the group. In very quick review of some notes, I only have, give or take: 1. a baptism of one Joseph Nevil on 12-2-1733 at Abington Parish, son of one Joseph Nevil. (our Joseph's...who knows, however would suspect) 2. John Neavill, George Neavill and Joseph Neavill witness deed of William Baily in 1745. This cant be the sons of John Sr. as they would be to young. Now are these the brothers Joseph Sr., George and John, sons of perhaps John Neville b: 1661 or do we still have duplicate Johns, Josephs and Georges running around the county. (kinda doubt it, almost sounds like or Joseph Sr. names his kids after his brothers) 3.Joseph Neville conveyed to his son George Neavil Jr. (why the Jr.) land on which he lives in 1762 at the head of Cedar Run in Fauquier. Now at least we have one son established, a George of a Joseph. (would hope ours) 4. Joseph gives his concent for marriage of on Mary Neavil to Richard Jackman in 1767. Looks like we have an additional child (unless you think this was another Joseph) 5. Marriage bond of one Joseph (do we presume our Joseph) to Mary Ellett. (our Joseph or another Joseph, who knows) Guess as you said, these can be anyone. Without a will, who knows. Without any additional information, I'm going to have to pencil in that Joseph Sr. had a wife Mary, had brothers George and John, had son George and daughter Mary, and unless there were two Joseph Nevilles in Abington Parrish in 1773 with newborns Joseph, will assume Joseph Jr. is the son of Joseph Sr. With reference of the letters to Cuthbert Bullitt, a son John and nephew Presley....................got to run....bye jdfaulk@hop-uky.campus.mci.net wrote: > > Ren, > > I have a couple of questions or comments about the information below. > ____________________ > At 11:02 PM 7/15/97 -0700, you wrote: > >We know by letter that Joseph Neville Sr. b: 1707 as mentioned in JB's > >book, who died in Moorefield, Hardy Co. VA. now W. VA. was a listed as > >the father of Gen John (my ancestor) and Gen Joseph m. Agness Nancy > >Brown. These letters were written by Joseph Sr. to Cuthbert Bullitt > >regarding some land dispute and he mentions names. > ____________________ > > The letters were written by Joseph Neville, Jr., not Sr., from his home in > Hardy Co., VA, to his son-in-law Bullitt in Louisville, KY. The letters do > establish that Joseph, Jr. had a son named Presley in Louisville, as well as > a nephew in Louisville, Col. Presley Nevill (son of Gen. John). In > addition, the letters establish that Joe, Jr. had a nephew John O'Bannon, > which seems to indicate that Booger's assertion that Joe, Jr. had a sister > Ann who married an O'Bannon is correct (especially since Ann had a son named > Presley Nevill O'Bannon). > > However, the letters do not establish that the references to Joseph Neville > of Isle of Wight (perhaps his place of birth according to 370 Yr. History), > Gloucester, Prince William/Fauquier, Hampshire/Hardy Counties are all > references to the man who was also said to be the same person who married > (1) Ann Bohannan and (2) Mary Elliot, lived from 1707-179-, was the father > of the above Joseph, Jr. and Presley Neville, and died in Hardy Co., VA. I > know we have been over this ground before, but do we have proof yet that the > Joseph Nevill and Ann Bohannon who had a son Joseph baptized in Gloucester > Co, Abington Parish, in Feb. 1733 is the same Joseph who shows up in Prince > William/Fauquier Co. area? In addition, do we have proof that the Joseph > who was in Hampshire/Hardy Co. area is the same Joseph who was in Prince > William/Fauquier Co. area? > > You stated that we can probably rule out Richard as the father of your John > Neville. I must have missed the reason we can do this somewhere along the > way. How do we know we can rule out Richard? I agree that it is confusing > that a Richard Nevill who was said to have m. Ann Burroughs (cousin of Lord > Fairfax) is also said to be John's father in some references, while the > Joseph Neville who m. Ann (prob. Bohannon) is also stated as being John's > father in other references (such as the Joe Neville 370-Yr. History). If a > John who lived in Winchester where your John lived was in a lawsuit with a > Richard Neville, this would seem to indicate a connection with some Richard > Neville, even if he was not John's father. > > While Gen. John Neville may not be part of my line, I have done research on > your John Neville because of the MD/PA connection of early Mississipi > Nevilles. As you may remember, Philip and James Nevill served with > Washington Co. rangers in Rev. War (an area where your John or Presley owned > land - will have to check source on this), and then Philip and James showed > up in the Spanish Natchez Territory in 1790's. This territory became part > of Mississippi. Philip and James owned land in Jefferson Co., MS, and > perhaps other counties. (One tantalizing clue to Philip's name is that Gen. > John Neville or his son Col. Presley Neville were friends with Prince Philip > of Spain, according to one source. Also, a Priestly Nevill showed up as > surveyor general in the Natchez Territory, according to another source. > This could have also been the Presley who was son of Joseph, Jr. since Joe > was in the surveying business, but then so was Col. Presley. Confused yet? > Well, I have previously posted George Nevill of Montgomery Co., TN interest > in Natchez Territory, as he stated in his will "money due me in the > Natchez." Of course, George is supposed to be another brother in the John, > Joseph, Ann, etc. generation, who were said to be children of Joseph, Sr. > (Booger and 370-Yr. History references). Oh well, here we are back at the > beginning of the subject of this post. Time to go.) > > Jan > > > > >"If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall > >He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > > > > -- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

At 10:44 AM 7/11/97 -0400, you wrote: I am a descendant of George's through his daughter Betty Neville, who married Solomon Jones. Soon I will get my website up and post my lines there. Missy, In my notes, I show a Solomon Jones in Orange Co., NC. Is this the same one who is your ancestor. Orange Co. was home to the "other" Nevilles - the William/Benjamin/Jesse/Solomon Neville line. Jan Faulkner

Ren, I have a couple of questions or comments about the information below. ____________________ At 11:02 PM 7/15/97 -0700, you wrote: >We know by letter that Joseph Neville Sr. b: 1707 as mentioned in JB's >book, who died in Moorefield, Hardy Co. VA. now W. VA. was a listed as >the father of Gen John (my ancestor) and Gen Joseph m. Agness Nancy >Brown. These letters were written by Joseph Sr. to Cuthbert Bullitt >regarding some land dispute and he mentions names. ____________________ The letters were written by Joseph Neville, Jr., not Sr., from his home in Hardy Co., VA, to his son-in-law Bullitt in Louisville, KY. The letters do establish that Joseph, Jr. had a son named Presley in Louisville, as well as a nephew in Louisville, Col. Presley Nevill (son of Gen. John). In addition, the letters establish that Joe, Jr. had a nephew John O'Bannon, which seems to indicate that Booger's assertion that Joe, Jr. had a sister Ann who married an O'Bannon is correct (especially since Ann had a son named Presley Nevill O'Bannon). However, the letters do not establish that the references to Joseph Neville of Isle of Wight (perhaps his place of birth according to 370 Yr. History), Gloucester, Prince William/Fauquier, Hampshire/Hardy Counties are all references to the man who was also said to be the same person who married (1) Ann Bohannan and (2) Mary Elliot, lived from 1707-179-, was the father of the above Joseph, Jr. and Presley Neville, and died in Hardy Co., VA. I know we have been over this ground before, but do we have proof yet that the Joseph Nevill and Ann Bohannon who had a son Joseph baptized in Gloucester Co, Abington Parish, in Feb. 1733 is the same Joseph who shows up in Prince William/Fauquier Co. area? In addition, do we have proof that the Joseph who was in Hampshire/Hardy Co. area is the same Joseph who was in Prince William/Fauquier Co. area? You stated that we can probably rule out Richard as the father of your John Neville. I must have missed the reason we can do this somewhere along the way. How do we know we can rule out Richard? I agree that it is confusing that a Richard Nevill who was said to have m. Ann Burroughs (cousin of Lord Fairfax) is also said to be John's father in some references, while the Joseph Neville who m. Ann (prob. Bohannon) is also stated as being John's father in other references (such as the Joe Neville 370-Yr. History). If a John who lived in Winchester where your John lived was in a lawsuit with a Richard Neville, this would seem to indicate a connection with some Richard Neville, even if he was not John's father. While Gen. John Neville may not be part of my line, I have done research on your John Neville because of the MD/PA connection of early Mississipi Nevilles. As you may remember, Philip and James Nevill served with Washington Co. rangers in Rev. War (an area where your John or Presley owned land - will have to check source on this), and then Philip and James showed up in the Spanish Natchez Territory in 1790's. This territory became part of Mississippi. Philip and James owned land in Jefferson Co., MS, and perhaps other counties. (One tantalizing clue to Philip's name is that Gen. John Neville or his son Col. Presley Neville were friends with Prince Philip of Spain, according to one source. Also, a Priestly Nevill showed up as surveyor general in the Natchez Territory, according to another source. This could have also been the Presley who was son of Joseph, Jr. since Joe was in the surveying business, but then so was Col. Presley. Confused yet? Well, I have previously posted George Nevill of Montgomery Co., TN interest in Natchez Territory, as he stated in his will "money due me in the Natchez." Of course, George is supposed to be another brother in the John, Joseph, Ann, etc. generation, who were said to be children of Joseph, Sr. (Booger and 370-Yr. History references). Oh well, here we are back at the beginning of the subject of this post. Time to go.) Jan > >"If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall >He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > >

Hello Missi and group, I have been off-line for a couple of weeks and am still catching up. You may have already mentioned the following information I am posting. If so, sorry to be repeating. There is a book on VA, NC, and TN Joneses in TN State Archives which has some information on Jones-Nevill connection in Granville/Orange/Halifax Co,NC area. I remember Tignall Jones being a name in the book (Tingle a variation of spelling). I think there is also a Tignall Jones in Montgomery Co., TN where there were Nevills from two lines: the Fauquier Co., VA line who went to Rutherford Co., NC and Greenville Co., SC (same place; NC/SC border disputed and finally settled); (2) the Nevilles (Solomon,etc.)from Granville/Halifax/Orange Co. area. The Stewarts are loosely or closely connected with the Nevill family in Fauquier Co., VA, in Montgomery Co., TN, and in Jefferson Co., MS. I think I have also seen a connection in KY, but it may be the one you found. I will check files for this. If you don't have the above info on Tignall Jones, I will check my files for him and post the information. Jan Faulkner ___________________________________ At 11:12 PM 7/16/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hello everybody. I have been compiling birth, death, and marriage record on >the pertinent names in Henry County Ky. Well, I have found something odd. A >rather late spelling of NEVILL, where there seem to be no other Nevill(e)s. And I would love to connect >Ann to my other Tingles, I am trying to build a database on this unusual (and >completely entangled into my family lines) surname. >Nmissi, pondering inbred ancestry. > >

Kathy and others interested in Montgomery Co., TN Nevills, I barely got started on Nevills yesterday at Clarksville-Mont. Co. Library. I began with the court minute books and stopped at 1810. After several hours, my toes were about to fall of from air-conditioning frostbite (too much Mississippi in my blood), and I could see that it will take more than a day or two to do a thorough survey of the records. I will also have a good excuse to run by and see my 14-month-old first grandchild who lives in Clarksville - not that I need an excuse. I have looked at these books off and on for years but decided to copy everything on Nevills so I would have a better frame of reference on each of the Nevill men when I am working at home. So far, I have just found references on old George from Fauquier Co., VA (will, jury lists, bonds, etc.), and his sons Joseph W., John, and George Washington Nevill (jury lists, disputes). Nothing yet on Solomon or that line - too early. One interesting detail has surfaced in the court minutes which conflicts with other information I have. Samuel Newell, Robert Newell, and William Newell are listed in the court minute records with spelling consistently as NEWELL. However, I have a tax list which shows Samuel NEVILL in Montgomery Co. I have wondered if Samuel might have been another son of old George since George's father-in-law was Samuel Earle. I have also thought that Samuel might have been part of Solomon's line - a part not followed in published records - since Samuel is a family name in Solomon's line. Samuel must have died or moved on rather quickly. There is no mention of a Samuel in George's will. (The Samuel Nevill name comes up again in 1830's one time on delinquent property taxes in Holmes Co., MS, where my ancestors lived, but I have found no other information on him in that county.) I have another tax list which is a copy of the original, and in the handwriting of the compiler of the list is the name of William NEVILL, not Newell. William Nevill is also on an early 1800's census in Montgomery Co., TN. It seems there may have been a bias on spelling or transcribing the name in some records, but I don't know which ones, so tomorrow when I go back, I am going to look at microfilm of the originals if they have them at the library. (It gives me a headache, too, Missi.) I did notice in the court minutes that sometimes when the name is obviously supposed to be George Nevill or John Nevill (such as consecutive lists of same jurors sitting for several cases over a period of three months), the surname is occasionally spelled Newell or Newill. I will let you know what I find out about William and Samuel Nevill or Newell since this could be a link for someone searching for fellows with these names who were born around or before last quarter of 1700's. They seem to have been just passing through. Are there any other look-ups I can do for anyone when I go back to the Montgomery Co., TN library? Jan