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    1. Update on Neville books, etc.
    2. Glenn Gohr
    3. Concerning the books, etc. that I am having reprinted for everyone, I have had a number of requests, and I have been filling them as I receive them. Thanks for everyone's support and notes of good will. Here is the listing of the items again: A 370-YEAR HISTORY OF ONE NEVILLE FAMILY (1612-1982), by Joseph B. Neville, 1988. This book is spiral bound with 8 1/2 by 11 in. size paper. It is 175 pages (9 intro. pages, plus 166 pages of text). This is the most up-to-date book on the Neville family that I know of. It includes footnotes, but no index. Cost = $10.00 (this includes postage) A 360-YEAR HISTORY OF ONE NEVILLE FAMILY (1612-1972), by Joseph B. Neville, 1974. This book is spiral bound with 8 1/2 by 11 in. size paper. (It originally was in a 3-ring binder and had no cover page, so I created one to match the style of the later book and put it in a spiral binding.) It is 63 pages (20 intro pages plust 43 pages of text). This is also a very good book on the Nevilles that Joe Neville printed earlier. It includes a good table of contents which makes it easier to locate individuals. It also has a chronology of the Neville family and other references which are not found in his later work. Cost = $4.00 (this includes postage) THE BATTLE OF NEVILL'S CROSS. No place, no publisher, 1885. 20 pages. This booklet tells the history of a famous battle in English history which occurred on Oct. 17, 1346 and involved Lord Ralph Nevill of Raby. Cost=$1.50 (this includes postage) ***My copy of this is a little light in places and has some words that have become unreadable, and thus may not duplicate as well as I'd like. I have ordered another copy through interlibrary loan which I hope will be clearer. I am waiting a week or two to ship these out until after I receive the 2nd copy to compare. I want to mail out as good a quality photocopy as possible. For those who have already ordered this, be patient and wait just a little longer. I am still taking requests for this item. SOCIETY OF JOHN NEVILLE DESCENDANTS NEWSLETTER (1976-1980), edited by Joseph B. Neville. This set of newsletters contains much information on the Neville family, mostly in the U.S., which was compiled by Joseph B. Neville and Robert Jett (both now deceased). Some of this information later found its way into the 370-YEAR HISTORY listed above. Lineages of all subscribers to this newsletter is given and much valuable information and sources are shown. These are legal size pages (8 1/2 X14 in.). The margins are very tight, but I am in the process of having them all reprinted and spiral bound (at top margin). Total number of pages is 88 pages. I have numbered the pages at the bottom to help in organizing. Also, should someone wish to make an index of this set, it would be much easier to do now. Total cost = $6.00 (This includes postage). Sincerely, Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) ggohr01@mail.orion.org My mailing address is: Glenn Gohr 1040 E. McCanse St. Springfield, MO 65803-3613 Ph. 417-833-2814 (evenings)

    07/31/1997 12:44:06
    1. Re: Wayne Co. KY Nevilles
    2. Sandy, Thank you for posting the Wayne Co., KY references. Have you found a connection between the Wayne Co. Nevils and James in Barren Co. who came from Fauquier Co., VA in 1770's or '80's? Jan ______________________________________ At 03:02 PM 7/29/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, > I tried this once already and got the message back. Misspelled Neville >of all things. > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book A, 1807 Feb 3: JAMES NEVIL was a witness >to a deed from Joseph Burd to George Rogers. > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B, 1811 Aug 15 - Recorded: 19 Aug 1811 - page 2-4: > Indenture: ENOCH NEVIL & BARSHEBA NEVIL of Wayne to Henry Thomas >of same.. $700 for 76 acres being a tract Granted to ENOCH by the >Commonwealth >of Kentucky by Patent from the Registers Office dated 5 Nov 1808 on Big >Sinking.. Beg. on S. side of Big Sinking Creek at a sugar tree & black >walnut.. William Beaty's line.. Jesse Dodson's line.. McCulluck's line.. >/s/ ENOCH (x) NEAVILL, BARSHEBA (x) NEAVIL Wit: Rodes Garth, William Walker > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B, 1811 Sep 26: Recorded: 27 Sep 1811 - page 10-11: > Power of Atty: William Ward, GEORGE NEVILLE & ELIZABETH his wife, >late Elizabeth Ward, Daniel Ward & Polly Ward of Wayne appt James Allen of >same their lawful atty in fact & to convey a parcel of land of 174 acres >lying on water of Smith's River in Franklin Co, Virginia being the same >tract which John Ward was possessed of to which the above are entitled >to as the Heirs of said John Ward, Dec'd.. /s/ William (x) Ward, GEORGE >NEAVILLE, ELIZABETH NEAVILLE, Daniel Ward, Polly Ward.. Wit: Joseph >Radford, JAMES NEAVILLE. > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B, 1812 Jan 13 - Recorded: 13 Jan 1812 - page 68-69 > Power of Atty: SAMUEL NEVELLE SR of Wayne appts Honorable John Rhea >of East Tennessee (now in Congress) my lawful atty to receive on my behalf >the money coming to me from the Treasury of the U.S. Granted to me by >Congress as a Pensioner for a wound I received during the Revolutionary >War.. /s/ SAMUEL NEAVELL (note: elsewhere the name is NEWELL) > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B, 1817 Aug 16 - Recorded: 18 Aug. 1817 - page >434-435 > Indenture: SAMUEL NEVEL 7 JANE his wife to James Simpson.. $50 for >50 acres Patented in name of said NEVEL.. Beg. on white oak & buck eye on >the river clift.. /s/ SAMUEL NEWEL, JANE (x) NEWEL .. Wit: Walter Emerson, >Alexander Worley. > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book C, 1821 Aug 11 - Recorded 30 Aug 1821 - page 269-270 > Indenture: Leonard Dodson & Mary his wife to JAMES NEVELL.. $400 for >100 acres by Survey on Big Sinking... Beg. at the mouth of Dodsons fork >at a walnut & a conditional line... /s/ Leonard Dodson, Mary Dodson who >relinq. dower. > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book D, 1827 Sep 20 - Recorded: 24 Sep 1828 - page 370 > Indenture: JAMES NEAVILL & wife MARIAM to Mastin Durham ... $175 for >100 acres by Survey on Big Sinking... Beg. at mouth of Dodson's Fork at >a walnut on a conditional line.. on Wm. Mitchell's line.. with all woods, >ways, waters, fences, trees, orchards, houses... /s/ JAMES NEAVILL, MARIAM >NEAVILL who relinq. dower.. Wit: Stockton Dodson, Leonard Dodson. > > > > >

    07/30/1997 11:15:09
    1. Re: HAMPTON
    2. Ren, The information I sent you had as its source a book that a correspondent's cousin found in a library in SC. I have not seen the book so I can't vouch for the information on the Hamptons. In regard to the date problem with William and Sarah, it looks like there are two couples with the same given names. I am sorry I can't give you more information. I sent all that I have on the Hampton-Nevill connection when I sent the post to which you refer. Jan At 02:09 PM 7/28/97 -0700, you wrote: >JP-Jan and group. Regarding Hampton, this is what I have, please compare >and let me know if this is not correct. JP...please look and let me know >where Mary Bridle fits, have a problem with her! Also JP, don't think >Rev Hampton was 66 when he sired Thomas, there is "reportedly" another >Thomas b: 1654 sandwiched in between. >WHO IS ELIZABETH NEVILLE! >Jan.....from here on out, my two different sources on these lines (not >credited sources) don't even come close. You show William (m. Sarah) >death as 7-11-1877, these "sources" show his death as 1790 in Abbeville >Co., SC (big difference). I've got two genealogies on Hampton, both >from John Hampton (son of Francis Hampton and Elizabeth Neville) that >take different route's. MY PROBLEM IS: who is Elizabeth Neville shown as >the daughter of John Neville and Elizabeth_______? The only one I can >know about floating around Isle of Wight was John Neville b: 1661 and >Elizabeth Bohannan who's daughter Elizabeth I show married to Thomas >Faulkner and Joseph Bohannan. I think this Elizabeth Neville can pretty >much account for her evening hours with her Bohannan issue being born >from 1720 to 1730, and after the death of her first husband, Joseph >Bohannan, the acknowledgement by Thomas Faulkner in deeding land to sons >Neaville and William. IF the genealogist that prepared the material I >have and the correspondent that Jan refers to claims there was one >Elizabeth Neville married to one Francis Hampton, who is she. Is there >another John floating around as many suggest, unless the subject >Elizabeth Neville married Francis Hampton and had children before her >marriage to Joseph Bohannan. Lets see, this would give her six children >starting in 1704 at the age of 13 and continuing in 1720 with six more >Bohannan children. Don't think so, as Francis Hampton's death is shown >as 1747 and I don't think divorce was very popular in those times.I >could probably spend a day or so unraveling all this Hampton info from >the information you have provided and what I have, but am very reluctant >to do so until I can tie Elizabeth Neville into the Isle of Wight >Neville's.......Once again, thank you JP and Jan for your imput, my >Hampton pile just got higher.....take care......Ren >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ren and Judy Neville >vom Junggesellental Rottweilers >Wörterbuch Publishing >510-432-3323 voice/FAX > >"If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall >He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > >

    07/30/1997 10:31:45
    1. Re: William Nevill/Nevels
    2. Hi Sandy, Thank you for your reply to my query. I have information on George and his family in Montgomery Co., TN, because some of them also owned property in Jefferson Co., MS, on Cole's Creek where my Nevill/Nevels lived. I have not found a connection between the two families yet, but considering how uncommon the Nevill name is, it is odd two find three and maybe four unrelated lines living within a few miles of each other in the early 1800's in MS: (1) Denis Nevill family, which originated in PA (or perhaps MD), lived on Cole's Creek, Jefferson Co., MS, before moving to LA in early 1800's. Denis said to be native of Ireland in two documents. (2) John and Joseph Bargel Nevill, sons of George Nevill, owned land on Cole's Creek and in old Greenville in Jefferson Co., MS in early 1800's. All were residents of Montgomery Co., TN by late 1700's after George migrated from Fauquier Co., VA, to NC/SC counties located along the disputed western border of NC/SC. In the early 1900 Booger genealogy, George is said to be the brother of your James, and although they likely were brothers, actual proof has eluded researchers thus far. (3)Philip and James Nevill, who were in Washington Co., PA, during Revolution, owned land by late 1700's on Cole's Creek, Jefferson Co., MS, and also on Bayou Pierre (just above Cole's Creek). James disappeared by 1800's. I don't know if he died or moved on somewhere else. Philip sold some of James's property, but I can't find a deed, probate record, or anything else which shows the connection between the two. A William Mackey is found in deeds with them. A William Mackey is also associated with your James Nevill in Barren County. I have not been able to find out if the Mackey in MS is same as one in KY. Since James and Philip fought in Rev., they would have been born ca. 1750 or before. Philip remained in MS and had two daughters and a son Thomas. (4)Another James Nevill, b. ca 1775, is found with Humphrey Beardin and others in PASSPORTS OF SOUTHWEST (not exact name of book but close - need to check) in late 1700's. These passports were granted in TN to people wishing to cross the state. Names of others travelling with them are McCauley, Huff, and Francis Jones. Some of these names are found around descendants of Benjamin Nevill line in Granville/Halifax/Orange Co., NC area. James Nevill and Humphrey Beardin are found next to each other on petition in Jefferson Co., MS shortly after passport date (late 1700's). James remained in MS and seems to be the progenitor of my line there. He lived on Cole's Creek near Martin Nevill/Nevels. Martin married Polly Roberts. Tradition in Roberts family is that James was Martin's brother, and that James married Elizabeth Roberts, the sister of Polly (no proof of James's marriage, but Martin and Polly(Mary)'s marriage record in Jefferson Co.) About three years ago I learned of William and Martin Nevill in Sumner Co., TN, in late 1700's. A William and Martin disappeared from Sumner Co. records in early 1800's and a William and Martin appeared soon after in Jefferson Co., MS. However, I can't find a direct connection between them and the James and Martin Nevill who were already there. In our past discussions, some of us have observed that the Nevills who were part of George Nevill's line in Montgomery Co., TN,were very chummy with Nevills who descended from Benjamin Nevill of Granville Co., NC, and who also came to Montgomery Co., TN. No documented connection previous to their arrivals in Montgomery Co. has been found. Sooo... you can see I am open to any possible connection with my two MS Nevill/Nevels lines. I keep looking at your James Nevill family because of the Mackey connection in KY and MS and because an Adam Jackman lived close to James in MS. Adam was the name of the bother of a Jackman who was related to your family and who came to Barren Co., KY. It seems possible that if Montgomery Co., TN Nevills were buying property near my Nevills in MS that your Nevills could have been doing the same. Do you have any "loose" Nevills in your line? Jan _____________________ At 04:46 PM 7/28/97 -0400, you wrote: >Jan, > I may be mistaken ( and I really should dig out the info and check) but >I believe your GEORGE NEVILL was the brother of my JAMES who was one of the >Nevilles of Lincoln and Barren Cos. KY. (he married Sarah Blackburn). > >Sandy > >

    07/30/1997 10:26:34
    1. RE: JOSEPH NEVILLE (USA)
    2. Neville, Gabe
    3. Good to hear from you! >---------- >From: pchitty@hwcn.org[SMTP:pchitty@hwcn.org] >Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 2:04 PM >To: NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: JOSEPH NEVILLE (USA) > >On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:08:36 -040 in Email: All you wrote: >: Jan, Ren, everybody... > >: Yep, that's my line! I don't know very much about Joseph, since I >: descend from his brother John II. John and Joseph's father was Edward >: Neville, who lived and died (1756) in Cecil Co., MD. John was a 2nd Lt. >: in the Maryland Flying Camp in the Revolution. Ren, you should have a >: copy of my line and can follow John II's descendents down to me and Pete >: there. I'm sorry I don't have more on Joseph. How did this come up? >: Have you found out anything that would be of interest to me? > >: By the way, sorry I've been so silent. Very little that's been posted >: seems to have anything to do with my line. The last thing Pete and I >: found was that Paddy's ancestor Moses may have been a brother of our >: Edward or maybe John. Speaking of which, are you still out there Paddy? >: Haven't heard from you in a while! > >Hi All: > >I'm still hear watching and taking it all in. I only wish I had something >useful to add. I went to look for land petitions on Moses and John NEVILL >that came from Harford Co. MD. to Ontario, Canada in 1793, thinking I may >have >missed something in my early research. I had not; no petitions have >survived. > >I will be looking at some land records next month and hope that they may >have something but I doubt it. > >In the meantime, I'm still here and will jump in if I have anything to add. >Thanks for thinking of me. > > Paddy > >

    07/30/1997 12:16:28
    1. RE: JOSEPH NEVILLE (USA)
    2. On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 13:08:36 -040 in Email: All you wrote: : Jan, Ren, everybody... : Yep, that's my line! I don't know very much about Joseph, since I : descend from his brother John II. John and Joseph's father was Edward : Neville, who lived and died (1756) in Cecil Co., MD. John was a 2nd Lt. : in the Maryland Flying Camp in the Revolution. Ren, you should have a : copy of my line and can follow John II's descendents down to me and Pete : there. I'm sorry I don't have more on Joseph. How did this come up? : Have you found out anything that would be of interest to me? : By the way, sorry I've been so silent. Very little that's been posted : seems to have anything to do with my line. The last thing Pete and I : found was that Paddy's ancestor Moses may have been a brother of our : Edward or maybe John. Speaking of which, are you still out there Paddy? : Haven't heard from you in a while! Hi All: I'm still hear watching and taking it all in. I only wish I had something useful to add. I went to look for land petitions on Moses and John NEVILL that came from Harford Co. MD. to Ontario, Canada in 1793, thinking I may have missed something in my early research. I had not; no petitions have survived. I will be looking at some land records next month and hope that they may have something but I doubt it. In the meantime, I'm still here and will jump in if I have anything to add. Thanks for thinking of me. Paddy

    07/30/1997 12:04:58
    1. Wayne Co. KY Nevilles
    2. Hi, I tried this once already and got the message back. Misspelled Neville of all things. WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book A, 1807 Feb 3: JAMES NEVIL was a witness to a deed from Joseph Burd to George Rogers. WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B, 1811 Aug 15 - Recorded: 19 Aug 1811 - page 2-4: Indenture: ENOCH NEVIL & BARSHEBA NEVIL of Wayne to Henry Thomas of same.. $700 for 76 acres being a tract Granted to ENOCH by the Commonwealth of Kentucky by Patent from the Registers Office dated 5 Nov 1808 on Big Sinking.. Beg. on S. side of Big Sinking Creek at a sugar tree & black walnut.. William Beaty's line.. Jesse Dodson's line.. McCulluck's line.. /s/ ENOCH (x) NEAVILL, BARSHEBA (x) NEAVIL Wit: Rodes Garth, William Walker WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B, 1811 Sep 26: Recorded: 27 Sep 1811 - page 10-11: Power of Atty: William Ward, GEORGE NEVILLE & ELIZABETH his wife, late Elizabeth Ward, Daniel Ward & Polly Ward of Wayne appt James Allen of same their lawful atty in fact & to convey a parcel of land of 174 acres lying on water of Smith's River in Franklin Co, Virginia being the same tract which John Ward was possessed of to which the above are entitled to as the Heirs of said John Ward, Dec'd.. /s/ William (x) Ward, GEORGE NEAVILLE, ELIZABETH NEAVILLE, Daniel Ward, Polly Ward.. Wit: Joseph Radford, JAMES NEAVILLE. WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B, 1812 Jan 13 - Recorded: 13 Jan 1812 - page 68-69 Power of Atty: SAMUEL NEVELLE SR of Wayne appts Honorable John Rhea of East Tennessee (now in Congress) my lawful atty to receive on my behalf the money coming to me from the Treasury of the U.S. Granted to me by Congress as a Pensioner for a wound I received during the Revolutionary War.. /s/ SAMUEL NEAVELL (note: elsewhere the name is NEWELL) WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B, 1817 Aug 16 - Recorded: 18 Aug. 1817 - page 434-435 Indenture: SAMUEL NEVEL 7 JANE his wife to James Simpson.. $50 for 50 acres Patented in name of said NEVEL.. Beg. on white oak & buck eye on the river clift.. /s/ SAMUEL NEWEL, JANE (x) NEWEL .. Wit: Walter Emerson, Alexander Worley. WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book C, 1821 Aug 11 - Recorded 30 Aug 1821 - page 269-270 Indenture: Leonard Dodson & Mary his wife to JAMES NEVELL.. $400 for 100 acres by Survey on Big Sinking... Beg. at the mouth of Dodsons fork at a walnut & a conditional line... /s/ Leonard Dodson, Mary Dodson who relinq. dower. WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book D, 1827 Sep 20 - Recorded: 24 Sep 1828 - page 370 Indenture: JAMES NEAVILL & wife MARIAM to Mastin Durham ... $175 for 100 acres by Survey on Big Sinking... Beg. at mouth of Dodson's Fork at a walnut on a conditional line.. on Wm. Mitchell's line.. with all woods, ways, waters, fences, trees, orchards, houses... /s/ JAMES NEAVILL, MARIAM NEAVILL who relinq. dower.. Wit: Stockton Dodson, Leonard Dodson.

    07/29/1997 01:02:30
    1. Neville-Spaulding link
    2. Joanne Hunt
    3. Hello out there, all you guys and gals. I have been trying to identify the following for 25+ years! want parents of Maryellen (Ellen, Ella?) Neville, also Nevielle, b. March 28, 1826, "from Salem, MA", who married June 22, 1855 Jesse Spaulding, b. Sept. 30, 1821, No. Anson, ME, son of Ephraim Spaulding and Mary Weston. All I know is that she had an Irish accent- something to be commented upon in that family of WASPs.. She was the mother of Flora Belle Spaulding who married Henry Jacob Hunt April 12, 1887. Just joined your group, and hope someone has the info. Joanne Hunt

    07/28/1997 07:15:41
    1. PETER et al (correction)
    2. Ren Neville
    3. The first sentence should read......He Peter....regarding John (not Joseph) m. Sarah Richardson etc.....excuse the typo, bye ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

    07/28/1997 04:59:14
    1. PETER et al (JOSEPH NEVILLE)
    2. Ren Neville
    3. Hi Peter......regarding Joseph Neville m. Sarah Richardson, the information I have is very sparce and you probably have most of it but here goes..... 1. John Neville (no dates or parents....sorry) m. Sarah Richardson, dau. of Joseph Richardson, their issue: 1. John S. Neville 2, Edward Neville 3. Thomas Neville 4. Elizabeth Neville 5. Hannah Neville 6. Nancy Neville 7. Mary Neville 8. Sarah Neville 9. Joseph Neville (1791-1815) m. Mary (Polly) Buckmaster (no date on the above siblings other than Joseph) children of Joseph Neville and Mary Buckmaster 1.Wilson Neville b: 8-5-1817, Wayne Ohio, m. 3-11-1844 Rebecca Wilson in Holmes Ohio, d. 11-30-1897 Buchanan Iowa 2. Sarah Neville b: 4-3-1818, Wayne OHio, d: 8-29-1903 Buchanan Iowa 3.Sophia Neville b: 8-11-1820, Wayne Ohio, m. 8-11-1820, Wayne Ohio. James Henry Tidball, d: 1883 4. Hannah Neville b: 7-7-1823, Wayne Ohio, m. 12-1-1842, Holmes Ohio, Robert Downs, d: 6-15-1894 Buchanan Iowa 5. Elizabeth Neville b: 1824 Wayne Ohio 6. Josiah Neville b: 2-7-1827, Holmes Ohio, m. 3-31-1855, Buchanan Iowa to Elizabeth Jane Logan, d: 8-14-1899, Independence, Buchanan,Iowa 7. Margaret Neville b: 1830, Holmes Ohio, m. 8-20-1855, Buchanan Iowa to William Boone 8. Edward Neville b: 1831, Holmes Ohio, d. 8-28-1869, Holmes Ohio 9. Joseph L. Neville b. 2-11-1833, Holmes Ohio, m. 10-16-1855, Millersburg, Holmes, Ohio to Louisa Calhoun, d: 5-4-1926 10. Rachael Neville b: 2-26-1836, Holmes Ohio, m. 1-17-1858, Holmes Ohio to Henry Wallick, d: 4-3-1898 11. Athalia Neville b: 6-1838, Holmes Ohio, d: aft 1900, Gold Hill, Boulder Colorado 12. Amelia Neville b: 3-5-1841, Holmes Ohio, m. 2-7-1861, Alfred Uhl, d: 2-26-1889, Buchanan, Iowa Children of Wilson Neville and Rebecca Wilson (b: 9-18-1822, Holmes Ohio) 1. Dorcas Neville 2. Samuel Nevile b: 12-5-1846, Holmes Ohio 3. Andrew Neville b: 6-9-1852, Holmes Ohio Children of Sophia Neville and James Henry Tidball: (4-5-1823/9-7-1908) b. Allegheny PA, m. 1847 Holmes Ohio d. Indianola, Warren, Iowa 1. Marietta Tidball b:abt 1847, Holmes, Ohio 2. Rebecca J. tidball b: abt 1847, Holmes Ohio Children of Hannah Neville and Robert Downs (8-11-1822/5-24-1860) b. Ohio, m. 12-1-1842, Holmes Ohio, d. 5-24-1860, Buchanan Iowa 1. Savilla Downs b: 4-29-1849, Holmes Ohio 2. Ellen Downs b: 8-7-1854, Holmes Ohio Peter.....this is sorta a strange pedigree, it starts from nowhere and does not have a recent ending. Guess I could look again for some branch if it's important to you. Now that I know your related to this "missing link" that's in my "pile", tell me how to tie it in......I guess the question you asked was did I have 9 children for Joseph, the answer is yes, now tell me that you have all this info.....oh well, maybe the "group" can add to your pedigree.......take care.......Ren ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

    07/28/1997 04:06:14
    1. HAMPTON
    2. Ren Neville
    3. JP-Jan and group. Regarding Hampton, this is what I have, please compare and let me know if this is not correct. JP...please look and let me know where Mary Bridle fits, have a problem with her! Also JP, don't think Rev Hampton was 66 when he sired Thomas, there is "reportedly" another Thomas b: 1654 sandwiched in between. WHO IS ELIZABETH NEVILLE! 1. Lawrence Hampton Sr. b: 1558 Twickenham Parish, Middlesex England, died 1611 same. Wife unknown. <his issue> William b: 1592, Richard b: 1594, Ann b:1604, Elizabeth b: 1604, Laurence Jr b: 1606, Philadelphia b: 1608 <his son> 2. William (1592-1652) born Twickenham Parish etc. m. Joane ?, issue: Rev Thomas Hampton II b: 4-23-1623, Elizabeth City Co., VA, d: 1690; William Jr., Grace, Elizabeth. <his son> 3.Rev Thomas Hampton II, b: Elizabeth City Co., VA wife unknown, issue: Thomas Jr. (1654/6-28-1703) <can't figure out his will could have been dated 12-9-1703 unless that is when it was settled or my death date is not correct....not a big thing>, Capt John Hampton (1650-1718), and Mary Hampton. <his son> 4.Thomas Hampton Jr. b: York Co., VA(1654-1703) m. Elizabeth Bridle, issue: Francis (1690-1747), Mary b: 1689, Sarah, John, Thomas III. <his son> 5. Francis b: 1690 Isle of Wight m. ELIZABETH NEVILLE (daughter of John Neville and Elizabeth ?) issue: John, Martha, Mary, Thomas, Benjamin, George.(no birth dates but est. 1704-1730 spred) Jan.....from here on out, my two different sources on these lines (not credited sources) don't even come close. You show William (m. Sarah) death as 7-11-1877, these "sources" show his death as 1790 in Abbeville Co., SC (big difference). I've got two genealogies on Hampton, both from John Hampton (son of Francis Hampton and Elizabeth Neville) that take different route's. MY PROBLEM IS: who is Elizabeth Neville shown as the daughter of John Neville and Elizabeth_______? The only one I can know about floating around Isle of Wight was John Neville b: 1661 and Elizabeth Bohannan who's daughter Elizabeth I show married to Thomas Faulkner and Joseph Bohannan. I think this Elizabeth Neville can pretty much account for her evening hours with her Bohannan issue being born from 1720 to 1730, and after the death of her first husband, Joseph Bohannan, the acknowledgement by Thomas Faulkner in deeding land to sons Neaville and William. IF the genealogist that prepared the material I have and the correspondent that Jan refers to claims there was one Elizabeth Neville married to one Francis Hampton, who is she. Is there another John floating around as many suggest, unless the subject Elizabeth Neville married Francis Hampton and had children before her marriage to Joseph Bohannan. Lets see, this would give her six children starting in 1704 at the age of 13 and continuing in 1720 with six more Bohannan children. Don't think so, as Francis Hampton's death is shown as 1747 and I don't think divorce was very popular in those times.I could probably spend a day or so unraveling all this Hampton info from the information you have provided and what I have, but am very reluctant to do so until I can tie Elizabeth Neville into the Isle of Wight Neville's.......Once again, thank you JP and Jan for your imput, my Hampton pile just got higher.....take care......Ren ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 510-432-3323 voice/FAX "If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

    07/28/1997 03:09:07
    1. Re: William Nevill/Nevels
    2. Jan, I may be mistaken ( and I really should dig out the info and check) but I believe your GEORGE NEVILL was the brother of my JAMES who was one of the Nevilles of Lincoln and Barren Cos. KY. (he married Sarah Blackburn). Sandy

    07/28/1997 02:46:22
    1. Re: SOJND NEWSLETTERS!
    2. Claire, Well, we share several families it seems. I haven't worked on these branches for so long I had to dig out my charts to answer your question! I descend from Isaac Waggoner & Sarah Boone through their son Henry Waggoner who married Jane Harris. Their dau. Samantha md. Rev. William Baker > John Nelson Baker md. Sarah Emeline Roberts > Ora Beecher Baker (my grandfather). I am afraid that my files may be in terrible condition because they have been moved from one computer to the next without work being done on them but I would be happy to share what I have if you are interested. Also, I may or may not have gotten everything TO the computer but, again, I am glad to share. Sandy

    07/28/1997 02:38:57
    1. Re[2]: JOSEPH NEVILLE (USA)
    2. Peter J Neville
    3. Ren, you state that John Neville and Sarah Richardson had a ton of Neville "issue"...I think I'll start calling my 11 month old son "issue". I have records of John and Sarah having 9 children...not a huge number for the 1790s. Do your records also show 9 kids? Jan, nice to "meet you electronically." _________________ >At 02:24 PM 7/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >>Hi group.....there is on Joseph Neville b: abt 1791 in Maryland, who >>married on 6-13-1815 in East Union, Wayne Co., Ohio Mary (Polly) >>Buckmaster. Joseph was the son of John Neville and Sarah Richardson who >>had a ton of Neville issue (as did Joseph and Mary) The group seems to >>be centered around Wayne Ohio then migrating to Iowa. Any help is >>appreciated......thanx group!.......Ren >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Ren and Judy Neville >>vom Junggesellental Rottweilers >>Worterbuch Publishing >>510-432-3323 voice/FAX >> >>"If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall >>He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 >> >> >

    07/28/1997 02:03:00
    1. Re[2]: JOSEPH NEVILLE (USA)
    2. Peter J Neville
    3. Yup, that looks like Gabe's and my line (Gabe is my brother). I don't have much information specifically on Joseph other than that he was the son of John Neville and Sarah Richardson, sybling to my direct male line ancestor John S., and that he joined John S. in Ohio before 1815. I don't know how long Joseph's line stayed in Ohio, my line stayed there until about 1903 and then moved to Colorodo. I am attaching everything I know about Joseph and some of his kin below. Ren, where did you come across Jopseph? Joseph's grandfather Edward is where Gabe and I hit our "brick wall". Of course, I would be very interested in any and all information that you have on this branch. Hope this helps. Sybling of Joseph: 8. John S. Nevill (176? - 185?) MD>PA>OH, m. Elizabeth ? (?-?) OH [g, g, g, g grandparents] John and Elizabeth, along with son John and wife Elizabeth Grant (and their children Jonathan and Nancy), moved to Holmes County, OH. Their third child, John J, was born 10 March 1810 in Wayne County, OH. Thomas and Joseph, brothers of John S., joined him in Ohio before 1815. In Holmes County histories, John Nevill is listed as one of the first settlers. One history states, "in the fall of 1810, he erected a large log house on which he put a shingle roof, the first of its kind and undoubtedly a source of intereste to the whole community." Another history states that "Mr. Nevill improved his land in Sec. 22 building a large house and planting an apple orchard and top grafted trees...These were the first grafted trees in the settlement and perhaps the first in the county." After about ten years, he and Thomas returned to Beaver County, PA where they lived out their lives. Father and Grandfather of Joseph: 9. John Neville (1740 - 1800) MD>PA>OH>PA, m. Sarah Richardson (?-?), MD>PA>OH>PA [g, g, g, g, g grandparents] John and Sarah were probably married in Cecil County MD, though no actual marriage record has been found. Sara was listed in the accounts of Joseph Richardson in 1796, and prior to that, in 1790, John Nevil was administrator for the accounts of Josiah Richardson. John and Sarah were the parents of nine children: John S., Edward, Thomas, Lizzie, Hannah, Nancy, Joseph, Mary and Sarah. According to Census Records, all were born in Maryland. In 1776, John and Thomas Nevil were listed under Colonel William Richardson in Maryland's Flying Camp, Fourth Battalion. They participated in the New York and northern campaigns of the Revolutionary War. Prior to 1797, John and his wife Sarah together with all their children (including the oldest son John already married to a woman named Elizabeth and their eleven year old son, yet another John) moved to what is now Beaver County in Western Pennsylvania. 10. Edward Neville (? - 1756) MD, m. Mary (?-?) MD [g, g, g, g, g, g grandparents] Edward and Mary lived in the Elk Neck District of Maryland. The Register of Saint Mary Anne's Parish of Cecil County lists the following births on page 329, however, the parents of these children are not named: Joseph Nevill, 12 March 1729, Sarah Nevill, 2 Feb 1727, and Thomas Nevill, 23 Jun 1721. On page 289, these births are recorded: 1732/3 March 24th, James Nevil son of Edward and Mary his wife and 1740 March 18th, John Nevil son of Edward and Mary his wife. 11. ? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: JOSEPH NEVILLE (USA) Author: <NEVILLE-L@rootsweb.com> at SMTP-GATEWAY Date: 7/28/97 9:50 AM Isn't this Gabe's line? Jan ____________________ At 02:24 PM 7/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hi group.....there is on Joseph Neville b: abt 1791 in Maryland, who >married on 6-13-1815 in East Union, Wayne Co., Ohio Mary (Polly) >Buckmaster. Joseph was the son of John Neville and Sarah Richardson who >had a ton of Neville issue (as did Joseph and Mary) The group seems to >be centered around Wayne Ohio then migrating to Iowa. Any help is >appreciated......thanx group!.......Ren >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ren and Judy Neville >vom Junggesellental Rottweilers >Wörterbuch Publishing >510-432-3323 voice/FAX > >"If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall >He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > >

    07/28/1997 01:50:42
    1. Reply to Jeanne Barton
    2. Jeanne, My email addresses are: GCTS11A@prodigy.com or SandyMc620@aol.com. I am planning to unsubscribe here and resubscribe on Prodigy. All the junk mail I get on AOL fills my box if I don't get to the computer for a while and I am afraid I will miss something! I have complained but it does no good they just tell you to use mail controls which helps not at all if you are a genealogist and WANT to hear from people you don't know yet. Sandy

    07/28/1997 01:31:55
    1. Christine's file
    2. Christine N. Snyder
    3. jdfaulk@hop-uky.campus.mci.net wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to open > Christine's file? I can't seem to get > it > open on my computer. I am probably > the problem, not the computer. > > Jan > > > > > >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; > charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Content-Description: Card for > Christine N. Snyder > >Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="vcard.vcf" > > > >Attachment Converted: > C:\CMCII\EUDORA\ATTACH\vcard.vcf > > HI, The file was done in Word, and is a .doc file. I could send it to you in segments or I could try to send it again in .txt format. Let me know how it would be best. Chris Snyder

    07/28/1997 12:25:04
    1. Re: 370-Yr History update
    2. Can anyone tell me how to open Christine's file? I can't seem to get it open on my computer. I am probably the problem, not the computer. Jan > > >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Description: Card for Christine N. Snyder >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" > >Attachment Converted: C:\CMCII\EUDORA\ATTACH\vcard.vcf >

    07/28/1997 11:12:47
    1. RE: JOSEPH NEVILLE (USA)
    2. Neville, Gabe
    3. Jan, Ren, everybody... Yep, that's my line! I don't know very much about Joseph, since I descend from his brother John II. John and Joseph's father was Edward Neville, who lived and died (1756) in Cecil Co., MD. John was a 2nd Lt. in the Maryland Flying Camp in the Revolution. Ren, you should have a copy of my line and can follow John II's descendents down to me and Pete there. I'm sorry I don't have more on Joseph. How did this come up? Have you found out anything that would be of interest to me? By the way, sorry I've been so silent. Very little that's been posted seems to have anything to do with my line. The last thing Pete and I found was that Paddy's ancestor Moses may have been a brother of our Edward or maybe John. Speaking of which, are you still out there Paddy? Haven't heard from you in a while! >---------- >From: jdfaulk@hop-uky.campus.mci.net[SMTP:jdfaulk@hop-uky.campus.mci.net] >Sent: Monday, July 28, 1997 12:44 PM >To: Neville-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: JOSEPH NEVILLE (USA) > >Isn't this Gabe's line? > >Jan >____________________ >At 02:24 PM 7/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >>Hi group.....there is on Joseph Neville b: abt 1791 in Maryland, who >>married on 6-13-1815 in East Union, Wayne Co., Ohio Mary (Polly) >>Buckmaster. Joseph was the son of John Neville and Sarah Richardson who >>had a ton of Neville issue (as did Joseph and Mary) The group seems to >>be centered around Wayne Ohio then migrating to Iowa. Any help is >>appreciated......thanx group!.......Ren >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Ren and Judy Neville >>vom Junggesellental Rottweilers >>Worterbuch Publishing >>510-432-3323 voice/FAX >> >>"If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall >>He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 >> >> >

    07/28/1997 11:08:36
    1. Re: HAMPTON FAMILY (USA)
    2. Ren, I received the following information from a correspondent who stated that descendants of Elizabeth Neville and Francis Hampton went to Holmes Co., MS where my Nevels/Nevill families lived. The correspondent is a Hampton descendant. I am not sure if this information answers your question, but there is a reference to a book that might give you some answers. Jan _____________________ >>As you probably know, the Hampton line goes back several generations in the US and back as far as the 1500's in Great Britain. What I have is from a relative who found a book on the Hampton's while she was doing research and vacationing in South Carolina. Up to this point we only knew that William was connected to the line but not sure how. William, by the way, is my ggg-grandfather. Well, here goes.... The Reverend Thomas Hampton II is the first, born 1623. (He was the son of a William and Joane Hampton) i.Thomas Jr. b.1654 d.1703 married to Elizabeth Bridle. Thomas and Elizabeth i.Francis Hampton b.1690 d. 1747 married Elizabeth Neville (no dates) Francis and Elizabeth i.John Hampton d.1790 married Lydia John and Lydia i.William Hampton b.24 Dec 1782 Newberry, SC d.11 July 1845 Emory, MS. married Sarah Wilson Tucker b.1796 Newberry, SC d. 29 June 1877. William and Sarah i.Herbert Tucker Hampton b.22 Feb 1813 d.24 Dec 1889 married Mary Ann Finch b.22 May 1817 d.29 July 1883. Herbert and Mary i.Sarah Davis Hampton b.13 Jan 1857 d.18 Apr 1923 married William Starke Melton b.5 Mar 1847 d.3 Feb 1905. William and Sarah owned a good bit of land and some slaves. The Emory Methodist Church founded 1841 is built on the Academy lot originally owned by the Hamptons. I believe that these people came in from South Carolina. The lines you have in Mississippi are very early so I think that your people probably came up from the lower part of the state probably by river. This was common for some of the wealthier settlers. In Holmes county my folks are mostly in the North Eastern part (T16N R3E) although they owned land in Yazoo, Carroll, Attala and other counties. Sorry I don't have more dates on the Neville line but maybe there is a lead for you somewhere in this. Looking forward to hearing from you again. Thanks ..... Benny >>Jan, the name of the book is "The Venturers, The Hampton, Harrison, and Earle Families of VA, SC, and TX" by Virginia G. Meynard. The passage I have a copy of goes like this... Francis Hampton b. 1690 d.Dec 1747 Isle of Wight Co. VA. He was married to Elizabeth Neville and they had 6 children. In 1747 he deeded his possessions to his 3rd son Benjamin, other children had moved to Frederick Co., VA. Other children were John, Martha, Mary, Thomas and Benjamin. _____________________ At 02:31 PM 7/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hi group......."reportedly" John Neville b: 1661 who married Elizabeth >Bohannan, had a daughter Elizabeth who I show married to Joseph Bohannan >and Thomas Faulkner. This source shows her married to one Francis >Hampton b: 1690, Isle of Wight Co., VA, son of Thomas Hampton Jr. and >Elizabeth Bridle. There are a ton of issue off two of their sons, Jahn >Hampton and Thomas Hampton. Can anyone confirm the marriage of >Elizabeth Neville to Francis Hampton or correct me if I am wrong with >Elizabeth being married to Joseph Bohannan and Thomas Faulkner? Thanx >group...Ren >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ren and Judy Neville >vom Junggesellental Rottweilers >Wörterbuch Publishing >510-432-3323 voice/FAX > >"If God so clothe the grass of the field....shall >He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30 > >

    07/28/1997 11:03:16