Jerry, The 1850 census of Orleans Parish shows three children for Julian: Dorsey, born ca 1836, OH, Emily, b ca 1847, LA & Fanny, b 1848, LA. New Orleans Genesis 2:8:322 shows Dorsey Neville m 7 Feb 1861, Christ Ch Episcopal Cathedral to Emily Gasquet. Do you have anything additional? Shirley Wilcox ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Seeking data on VA/TN family of MARY SUTTON, b. 5/10/1818, d. 7/1871, daughter of Thomas Sutton and Hannah Lawson. Mary Sutton was first wife (married 10/29/1840)to my great-grandfather, GEORGE WASHINGTON NEVILS, b. ca. 1810, d. 6/29/1913. WERE MARY AND HER PARENTS CHEROKEE INDIAN?

On Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:26:50 -0800 "<Sandra Grant" <[email protected]> writes: >Shirley, I was reading with great interest about the Neville bible >and the >question as to whether Sarah is a Jackman. Didn't one of John >Neville, >brother to Joseph, girl marry Richard Jackman. I know it is normal >for >brothers and sisters to intermarry and this would lend credence to the >Sarah >Jackman theory. Sandie > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > Yes, there was a 1767 Fauquier Co. VA marriage of a Mary Neville to Richard Jackman. Consent was given by Joseph Neville. There is disagreement as to whether this was her father or some other relative. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Gabe, Thanks for forwarding Arlin Nevels Matthew's post about his ancestor James Wesley Nevels. I sent the reply below to his address and am also forwarding it to the list since we have some other list members connected with the Claiborne Co., TN group discussed below. Perhaps they can add to what I have. Jan -------------------- Arlin, I am the descendant of William Nevels, b. 1808 in MS. I have evidence that his father may have been James Nevels who arrived in MS in the late 1790s. According to the 1880 census in Holmes Co., MS, William stated his father was born in SC. However, after many years of research, I still have not been able to establish a definite link with a SC group. Some family information and some of my research leads me to suspect my James Nevels could be related to the Halifax Co., NC Nevilles whom Jesse Lawrence (in your query) has researched. James Nevels came to MS in the 1790s with a Humphrey Beardin. I found a Humphrey Bearden in GA in the 1780s, but I don't know if he is the same person who went to MS. Reconstructed 1790 Census of GA, p. 127, Greene Co., GA - Those who sustained damages from Indians Jan 1787 to July 1788: Humphrey Bearden. I have also found the Beardin/Bearden name in the area of Halifax Co., NC and across the border in the area of Halifax Co., VA, including a Humphrey Bearden in the late 1700s. If a connection exists among all these Humphey Beardens, then perhaps the Neville/Nevels family was following the same migration pattern. Here's what I have in my files on your Monroe Co., GA James Wesley Nevels: The 1832 Gold Lottery of Georgia / Containing a List of the Fortunate Drawers in Said Lottery, pub. by Southern Historical Press, Rev. S. Emmett Lucas, Jr. p. 386, Monroe County: Squire Navels, Butts Militia District, Land Lot No. 965, District 18, Section 3. Family chart compiled in 1983 by Gladys Nevels of Ringgold, GA; forwarded to me by Ruth Nevels of Vicksburg, MS: Walter Brown Nevels, b. 29 July 1918 Colquitt Co., GA son of William Bonnie Nevels, b. April 18, 1891 Terrell Co., GA; d. 1 May, 1961 Mitchell Co., GA; m. Carrie Lillian Williams, b. 30 Nov. 1884 Webster Co., GA; d. 17 Aug. 1961 Mitchell Co., GA. son of William Wesley Nevels, b. Sept. 4, 1864 Stewart Co., GA; d. 25 June, 1951 Colquitt Co., GA; m. 18 Aug. 1889 Mary Lucy Oxford, b. 21 Sept 1872 Terrell Co., GA; d. 21 May 1940 Colquitt Co., GA. son of James Wesley Nevels, b. 3 Oct. 1831 Monroe Co., GA; d. 2 March 1911; m. Mary Jane Bishop, b. 7 July 1832; d. 30 Aug, 1905. In a letter attached to the above chart Gladys Nevels stated she and her husband were about to move to Sale City where her husband Brown (above) grew up. I expect you know these people since you have a common ancestor, and I am probably giving you information you already have. Gladys also stated she had found James Wesley Nevels' application for Civil War pension at the state archives and that showed him b. 3 Oct 1831 in Monroe Co., GA. She went on to say that the Monroe Co., GA 1830 census shows only one Nevels: Squire Nevels, b. NC and his wife, both between the ages of 20 and 30 (I don't think Gladys got the information about Squire being born in NC on the 1830 census since that information was not given on the federal census until 1850). In 1840 Squire, his wife, and two male children, one under 5 and one between the ages of 5 and 10, were in Troup Co., GA. In 1850, Squire and his wife, Lotty (b. GA) were living in Tuscaloosa Co., AL with no children in the home. Gladys said that Squire and Lotty may have been the parents of James Wesley Nevels, but she had found no real proof. Perhaps you could check the probate records in Tuscaloosa to see what happened to Squire and/or Lotty's estates when they died. A property division might name children. Since you have found that James Wesley Nevels' father was b. in NC, you have another good clue that Squire may be his father. Some of the following may be of help in establishing a link in NC. Tennessee was a part of NC until about 1786. I noticed that James Wesley Nevels married a Bishop. A Bishop Nevils was part of a James Nevils group that lived in Claiborne Co., TN in the early 1800s. Claiborne Co. is in the northeastern section of TN very near NC. If Squire has a connection with this group, perhaps his family lived for a while across the border in NC. The Claiborne Co., TN group is liked to a Charlotte Co., VA group of Nevils. We have had some discussion about this Nevils family on the Neville list. I will be glad to forward those posts to you. Some people who descend from the Charlotte Co., VA group think a John Nevils who was in Amelia Co., VA in the first half of the 1700s and who stated he came to this country from Ireland could be the progenitor of their family. However, a definite link between John Nevils of Amelia Co., VA and the Charlotte Co. Nevils still needs some documentation. For that matter, the Claiborne Co., TN Nevils need some more work, too. Jan Faulkner At 05:25 PM 12/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >Arlin: > >I don't have Jesse's email handy, but will pass this on to the "Neville >List" in hopes that someone else can help you. Welcome! > >Gabe > >>---------- >>From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] >>Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 4:34 PM >>To: Neville, Gabe >>Subject: ...no subject... >> >>Mr. Neville: >> >>This date have send request to become a member of the Neville Heritage >>Society and requested 3 books on Neville family history. >> >>Under Descendants of William Neville, Immigrant - Jesse-M-Lawrence, there >>is a James Neville listed with a note to research this James Neville. >> >>As my gggrandfather is James Wesley Nevels - b: 1831 Monroe County, GA - d: >>1911 Worth County, GA - parents born in NC, I would like to get in touch >>with Mr. Lawrence. Can you help me with an address for Mr. Lawrence? >>(e-mail or regular mail address) >> >>My e-mail address at work is: [email protected] >> >>Thanks for any assistance you can provide... >> >> >>Arlin Nevels Mathews sends...... >> >> > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Arlin: I don't have Jesse's email handy, but will pass this on to the "Neville List" in hopes that someone else can help you. Welcome! Gabe >---------- >From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 4:34 PM >To: Neville, Gabe >Subject: ...no subject... > >Mr. Neville: > >This date have send request to become a member of the Neville Heritage >Society and requested 3 books on Neville family history. > >Under Descendants of William Neville, Immigrant - Jesse-M-Lawrence, there >is a James Neville listed with a note to research this James Neville. > >As my gggrandfather is James Wesley Nevels - b: 1831 Monroe County, GA - d: >1911 Worth County, GA - parents born in NC, I would like to get in touch >with Mr. Lawrence. Can you help me with an address for Mr. Lawrence? >(e-mail or regular mail address) > >My e-mail address at work is: [email protected] > >Thanks for any assistance you can provide... > > >Arlin Nevels Mathews sends...... > >

Interesting. I won't be able to get to the David Library until next year, but these are worth checking out. I'm sure none of us are related to that traitorous dog who served with the Tories! Gabe >---------- >From: > [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, December 11, 1998 5:04 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Gabe - MD John Neville's serving in the Revolution > > Gabe (and others): > > From what I've been able to scrape together, there seem to have been 4 > John Nevilles with some kinda Rev. war service in/with Maryland. > Think you might be able to get to the David Library? > > MD Archives index: > Sgt JOHN NEVELL Jr. on pay roll of Capt. Hezekiah Wheeler's Company > in 11th Battalion of Militia for April 1778. Box 6, folder 21, > 1782 June 8, 7 items. > > Nat'l Archives: > JOHN NEVILLE, 2nd Lt. Richardson's Regiment, Flying Camp Maryland. > Dated Oct 5 and 12 1776. Oct 12 NEVILL sick in camp. > > United Maryland and Pennsylvania Loyalists: > JOHN NEVILL/NEVILLE - found on following lists: 1 Jan 1780 muster > roll of Captain Patrick Kennedy's Company of the United Corps of > Maryland and Pennsylvania Loyalists commanded by Lt. Col. William > Allen, no location given for John (some members of company listed > on board the Charlotte, others at the Lime Kilns). 24 Apr 1780 > same info, location: Pensacola > > Maryland Revolutionary War Records 1727-1851. By Jody Powell, 1993 > Maryland Pensioners, MD Non-pensioners, Soldiers in other states who > applied for Maryland Pensions: > NEVIL, JOHN. VA Service. (don't know what this means - > Marylander that served for VA? Virginian that retired in > Maryland?) > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >You may contact the Neville list manager at: >mailto:[email protected] > >

Beverly, You can find part of the tree that paddy refers to at the following link. http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/neville/messages/3.html Note the Abraham and Hall Nevills in the tree - there probably is a connection here but more information such as birth dates, places etc. would help. My brother Mark Neville posted this partial tree. Let me know if we truly are cousins! Another member of the list Barbara Evans is also a decendant of Abraham Neville and Debora Ostrander. [email protected] Good luck! Dave Neville

Gabe (and others): From what I've been able to scrape together, there seem to have been 4 John Nevilles with some kinda Rev. war service in/with Maryland. Think you might be able to get to the David Library? MD Archives index: Sgt JOHN NEVELL Jr. on pay roll of Capt. Hezekiah Wheeler's Company in 11th Battalion of Militia for April 1778. Box 6, folder 21, 1782 June 8, 7 items. Nat'l Archives: JOHN NEVILLE, 2nd Lt. Richardson's Regiment, Flying Camp Maryland. Dated Oct 5 and 12 1776. Oct 12 NEVILL sick in camp. United Maryland and Pennsylvania Loyalists: JOHN NEVILL/NEVILLE - found on following lists: 1 Jan 1780 muster roll of Captain Patrick Kennedy's Company of the United Corps of Maryland and Pennsylvania Loyalists commanded by Lt. Col. William Allen, no location given for John (some members of company listed on board the Charlotte, others at the Lime Kilns). 24 Apr 1780 same info, location: Pensacola Maryland Revolutionary War Records 1727-1851. By Jody Powell, 1993 Maryland Pensioners, MD Non-pensioners, Soldiers in other states who applied for Maryland Pensions: NEVIL, JOHN. VA Service. (don't know what this means - Marylander that served for VA? Virginian that retired in Maryland?)

Hi there. Moving this date to our new home at: 351 Central Park Place Brentwood, CA. 94513 Tel# 925-516-4976 The telephone company advises that they have a problem so we will not have telephone service until after Christmas. This means I won't have to play with my computer until next year! So, I wish you a happy holiday season and will catch you later......... Ren and Judy Neville....... -- ============================================================Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 925-432-3323 voice/FAX Webpage: http://home.earthlink.net/~beschutzer "If God so clothe the grass of the field.....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

Pete: Tempting, but I suspect that the repeated consistent spelling "Nowell" suggests that it's not a misspelling of "Neville"--especially since he was a lawyer and presumably literate. Gabe >---------- >From: > [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 9:03 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Cecil Co Nevilles/Nowell. > > According to George Johnston's History of Cecil County, a William > Nowell was practicing law, sworn in as under-sheriff, etc in Cecil > County in the late 1600s. > > Does anyone have further information on this guy? > > (By the way, on a few occasions when I made restaurant reservations by > phone, I showed up to find my name spelled Noble which isn't far from > Nowell. Either it's my accent or it's theirs). > > Notes from HISTORY OF CECIL COUNTY MARYLAND, by George Johnston > p. 83 "One WILLIAM NOWELL also prayed to be re-admitted [as an > attorney to practice in court], and promised to remove the causes > that had led to his suspension, which seemed to be the fact that he > had refused to take the oath of alliance and supremacy". (Neville's > note: I'll have to double check, but I think the year was 1692) > > p. 144 "The citizens of Cecil County sent a petition which was > signed by ninteen of the inhabitants, of none of whom anything is > known at this time, except George Oldfield, Casparus Hermen, > WILLIAM NOWELL, and York Yorkson". > > p. 144 "WILLIAM NOWELL was a lawyer. He refused to take the > oath of alliance and supremacy, for which the courts stopped him > from practicing; but probably readmitted him for the minutes of the > court show, as before stated, that he promised to remove the cause > of disability". > > p 117. "Att ye court held for Cecil County ye 8th day of > January in the 9th year of the dominion of ye right hon'ble Charles > &c, annoq Dominic 1683. Present George Talbot, Esq...Wm. Dare, of > Cecil County, gent, appointed & put in to be high sheriff...May ye > 23d, 1684. Then came WILLIAM NOWELL and took the oath of an > under-sheriff..." > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Hello from Canada: Here are a couple of Nevills researchers who will be interested to hear from you: Paul Bingle: [email protected] and Carmen Matteson: 2970 Brandywine Lane West Melborne, Florida 32905 Carmen is from Abraham NEVILLS and Deborah OSTRANDER's line and I know would love to hear from you. Her phone number is 1-407-984-7140. If you contact her, please say hello from me. I am a Nevill researcher and my line and the Nevills line became hopelessly entangled here in Ontario when a Nevills family moved into an area where the Nevill family lived and both had Thomases. It took Carmen and I a couple of years to get it sorted out, so before you get caught up in the web get in touch with one of the above. If you are consulting the IGI for Ontario on this family there are serious mistakes in the information there. Paddy in Hamilton, ON

A suggestion: you might want to post your query of the Niagara-Ont- L.rootsweb.com page. Cheers. Jerry Dalton

I am trying to track down my Nevills family in Canada. For the most part they were in and around Welland, Ontario, Canada. (near Niagara) My mother was Dorothy Maxine Nevills b. 1921 Hamilton, Ont. Canada Her father was Lorne Hall Nevills d. 1956 Lorne Hall Nevills had 2 brothers...Everand Nevills and Reuben Peter Nevills...and two sisters...Martha Jane Nevills and Carrie Albeatrice Nevills. Their Father was Abraham Nevills. He had two brothers...Reuben Nevills and Thadeus Nevills...and two sisters...Lucetta Nevills and Scynthia Nevills. Sorry, I have no dates to go by and my mother came to the States in 1941 and lost contact with the Nevills side of the family. Any help you could give would be most appreciated. Thank you, Bev Bernhard

Dear Jeffrey, The Neville E-Mail list is set up so that you can only send & receive messages after you have signed up to the list. At this point you have not signed up. Here is the procedure for signing up: To subscribe, send an e-mail to: [email protected] Leave subject line blank (This will be ignored). In the body of the message type: subscribe Then a welcome message will be sent telling how to post messages. Once you are subscribed, you may send a query to everyone on the list by sending e-mail to: [email protected] Some of the variant spellings of Neville include: Nevill, Nevills, Neavill, Neaveill, Nevel, Nevell, Nevels, Nevils, Neufville, etc. All of these seem to be connected way back. The name is French in derivation. You should also visit the Neville Heritage Society Page at: http://www.prairienet.org/neville/ And there is a 2nd e-mail list called Neville-Origins-L that works the same as the Neville-L list above. This 2nd list deals with any Nevilles outside of Canada and the U.S. I am forwarding your query to both e-mail lists in case someone else is interested. Sincerely, Glenn Gohr (Neville & Neville-Origins List Manager) [email protected] ---------- From: Jeffrey Neufville <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Neufville Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 3:11 PM Hi, my name is Jeffrey Neufville Jr. I was doing a websearch with my last name and I stumbled on to your site. Do all of these names really come from the same roots? I'm a black guy who is half Jamaican--that is where I got the Neufville last name, from my father. I'd always assumed that my ancestors were slaves from Haiti. Could this be accurate?

Hi Everyone, Does anyone know of a Neville-Palmer connection? Seems like I have seen this somewhere but can't find it for the life of me. A young college student working in the nearby Cracker Barrel is named Neville Palmer. Neville is a family name, but he doesn't know how it came into the family. The family is from the Richmond, KY area. When I saw Neville in great big red letters on his apron, I had to ask about his family, and it turned out he is very interested in knowing more about his family history. He is also a history major, so I would imagine he is hooked for life--and such a nice young man... Jan

Hi Peter, "Old news" seems to be good for our discussion list--new ideas surface. Anyway, I was happy to see what you posted because it related to some ideas I am kicking around. Jan At 01:22 PM 12/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > Thanks for the education Jan. > > Once again, I've not been able to keep up with the volume of e-mail > and thought I'd "discovered" something that others had been talking > about for years. > > This may be old news to the VA Neville researchers (I focus on MD and > At least now I know enought to start my messages with "This may be old > news to ...whomever..., but..." > > Thanks again. > > Peter > >

According to George Johnston's History of Cecil County, a William Nowell was practicing law, sworn in as under-sheriff, etc in Cecil County in the late 1600s. Does anyone have further information on this guy? (By the way, on a few occasions when I made restaurant reservations by phone, I showed up to find my name spelled Noble which isn't far from Nowell. Either it's my accent or it's theirs). Notes from HISTORY OF CECIL COUNTY MARYLAND, by George Johnston p. 83 "One WILLIAM NOWELL also prayed to be re-admitted [as an attorney to practice in court], and promised to remove the causes that had led to his suspension, which seemed to be the fact that he had refused to take the oath of alliance and supremacy". (Neville's note: I'll have to double check, but I think the year was 1692) p. 144 "The citizens of Cecil County sent a petition which was signed by ninteen of the inhabitants, of none of whom anything is known at this time, except George Oldfield, Casparus Hermen, WILLIAM NOWELL, and York Yorkson". p. 144 "WILLIAM NOWELL was a lawyer. He refused to take the oath of alliance and supremacy, for which the courts stopped him from practicing; but probably readmitted him for the minutes of the court show, as before stated, that he promised to remove the cause of disability". p 117. "Att ye court held for Cecil County ye 8th day of January in the 9th year of the dominion of ye right hon'ble Charles &c, annoq Dominic 1683. Present George Talbot, Esq...Wm. Dare, of Cecil County, gent, appointed & put in to be high sheriff...May ye 23d, 1684. Then came WILLIAM NOWELL and took the oath of an under-sheriff..."

Connie: I am interested in your Neville's from MO. My gggrandmother was Elizabeth Neville, Nevil or whatever and I have never been able to connect her with any of the Neville's. She is Elizabeth b: abt 1852 in KY, don't know county, f, b: VA and m, b: KY. She married LeRoy Brownlow July 26, 1868 in Lebanon, MO although I have not been able to find the records (they were given to me). She died 3/6/1885 in Lebanon, I assume. I have not been able to find these records either. Do you have anything on this person? I would appreciate anything I could get on her. Thanks so much. Remona, Modesto, CA

Could anyone tell me the relationship between Stephen and Willis NEVILLE? They are listed on the 1850 WFP Census as next-door neighbors, Willis as dwelling 330 and Stephen as 331. I don't find Stephen on the 1860 census. Bob Smith

I just subscribed to the list today. I am not a NEVILLE descendant but have collected information on them because (1) I am a SHIRLEY researcher and the mother of Mildred HOLTSCLAW m. William NEVILLE is said to have been a SHIRLEY and (2) there are several connections with my families in Harrison Co., MO, especially the BANDYs. Specifically, I am looking for information on the following siblings and their descendants: George William NEVILLE b. 2 Jun 1838 m. (1) Sarah Jane "Sadie" BANDY Henry Harrison NEVILLE b. 15 Jun 1840 m. Elizabeth BANDY By searching the archives, I see there has been discussion earlier this week relative to a Bible record on Sarah Jackman NEVILLE, aunt of the above men. Unfortunately, I'm not able to find the messages from "George" about this Bible record to which Shirley Wilcox has responded. I have copies of the following Bible records which I'd be happy to share with anyone interested for a self-addressed envelope. (Contact me privately for my mailing address). (1)"Copy of record from family bible of William Nevill, Sr, copied from Bible by Melissa Hunley and sent to Virginia Anderson and that copy sent to me at Bethany, Mo. in 1912." The "me" to which this refers appears to be Lillian Neville Prentiss (1870-1959). It gives the exact birthdates and complete names of William and Mildred Nevill and their 10 children. To answer Shirley Wilcox's recent question, assuming we're talking about the same Bible record, it definitely gives Sarah's name as Sarah Jackman Nevill not Sarah Jackson Nevill. (2) Copies of several pages from an old Bible in the handwriting of at least 3 different people, one of whom apparently was the above Lillian Neville Prentiss. I believe the older writing is probably that of one of her parents I also have some old newspaper clippings from about 1902 re: the twins Henry O'Bannion NEVILLE and James M. NEVILLE which I'm also willing to share for an SASE. Hope this helps someone. Anyone out there who can tell me more about the NEVILLE/BANDY descendants?