-- [ From: Jeanne Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Interesting, ref. the twin trait. My grandmother, Alice Belle Clatterbuck b. 1889, Fauquier Co., VA., and desc. of the Nevilles, had a twin brother. These are the only twins I have come across in my family lines, so far. If nothing else turns up, I'm going to have to suspect the Neville gene... Jeanne

Connie, I have the following published in the Hopkinville Kentuckian newspaper Sept. 27, 1904: Oldest Twins in the United States The oldest twins in the United States are natives of Hardin county. They are Henry O. Neville and James M. Neville, of Harrison county, Mo., who were born in this county June 25, 1815. Their religious and political ideas run in the same channels. They were both colonels to the Federal army, both are Republicans and both belong to the Baptist church -- Elizabethtown News. Jan At 08:33 PM 12/6/98 -0500, you wrote: >I just subscribed to the list today. I am not a NEVILLE descendant but >have collected information on them because (1) I am a SHIRLEY researcher >and the mother of Mildred HOLTSCLAW m. William NEVILLE is said to have >been a SHIRLEY and (2) there are several connections with my families in >Harrison Co., MO, especially the BANDYs. > >Specifically, I am looking for information on the following siblings and >their descendants: > >George William NEVILLE b. 2 Jun 1838 m. (1) Sarah Jane "Sadie" BANDY > >Henry Harrison NEVILLE b. 15 Jun 1840 m. Elizabeth BANDY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >I also have some old newspaper clippings from about 1902 re: the twins >Henry O'Bannion NEVILLE and James M. NEVILLE which I'm also willing to >share for an SASE. > >Hope this helps someone. Anyone out there who can tell me more about >the NEVILLE/BANDY descendants? > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Archived postings to the NEVILLE mailing list can be found on the WEB at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

My 89 year old father (Bartley Everton Nevill) had a twin brother (Charles Ray Nevill, deceased) and sister (Cora Fay Nevill), born in Texas around 1911. Sheryl Nevill New Paddy Chitty wrote: > On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:26:31 -050 in Email: NEVILLE-L you wrote: > > : The Neville Family of England and The United States by Frances Beal Smith > : Hodges (pub. 1964 by Mrs. John Hart Wilson) shows three children for > : George William Neville & Sadie Bandy: Vera Lucille, William Leslie & > : George. For Henry Harrison Neville & Elizabeth Bandy it shows Martha > : Frances, William Otis, Mary, Nellie, Ray & unnamed twins. I have a few > : dates for this second family from an LDS Family Group Sheet and from > : Cedar Hill, Harrison Co. Cem. Rec's. This material remains to be > : verified. > > The above mention of twins got me to wondering if there are any other > instances of twins in anyone's Neville line. There were twins in > my Thomas Nevill's, s/o Moses NEVILL of Harford MD and Ontario, line but > I suspect it came from the maternal line as the grandfather of Mary SECORD > w/o Thomas NEVILL was a himself a twin. > > Paddy > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Archived postings to the NEVILLE mailing list can be found on the WEB at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

At 09:20 AM 12/24/98 -0500, you wrote: >Jan my name is William J. Neville and I am starting to get interested in my >roots at the age of 57 I am unfamiliar with the correct method of contacting >people so if this message should be directed to someone else I would appreciate >your letting me know. while looking for Neville info on the Internet I came >across the subject file, in it is mentioned a William J. Neville.(in jail I >believe) who was 30 yrs old in 1849 My great great grandfather William J >Neville was born Jan. 23,1819 and my aunt who was very interested in Neville >family history said that she thought our family came from South Carolina. My >ggfather died in 1899 in Onancock Va and is buried there.Is there any way to >determine if the William J Neville in this file is the same one. William, I appreciate your contacting me about your ancestor William J. Neville. To what subject file are you referring? It sounds like one that was on the Roots-L Neville list. >Would there be any Trial or court records in S.C. that might shed further >light on this?I am attempting to get further info on him through the local >library and court records in Accomack Co. Va. I have a twin brother named >Junius and my aunt wanted my middle name to be Joshua but I ended up with >Joseph.All of this sort of fits in with the subject file. thanks ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> Have you checked the 1850 census in Accomack Co., VA to see where William J. Neville lists his place of birth? That information would help you know if you are on the right track (the 1850 Accomack Co., VA census may be on-line). If he was indeed from SC and William J., Joshua, and Junius are family names in your Neville line, then you want to look carefully at Joshua Neville who arrived in Charleston, SC from Ireland and whose descendants lived in Richland Co., SC. He first shows up on the census in Charleston Co., SC in 1810. He is also on the 1830 and 1840 census in Charleston Co. The 1850 census of Richland Co., SC (Columbia) shows Joshua there, along with Henry W. Neville and William J. Neville in the same county. Some evidence suggests that Nevilles/Nevels in the Colquitt Co., GA area and in the Giles Co., TN area may be part of Joshua's line. The migration pattern also suggests that some of the family was moving both west and north from SC. We have had at least two other list members descended from Joshua. In SOUTH CAROLINA NATURALIZATIONS 1783-1850 by Brent Holcomb is the following information on p. 25: Joshua, age 46 Nation of origin: Queen's County, Ireland Residence: Charleston, SC Occupation: Cabinetmaker Admission: 15 Sep 1814 ------------- >From Shirley Wilcox on the Neville List: 1830 Census Charleston Dist, SC p82, City of Charleston, Ward 4 JOSHUA NEVILL - - 2 3 3 0 1 0 1 - - 2 1 1 - 1 4sl HENRY W NEVILL 1 - 1 - - 1 1 1 1 = = 1 1f 90-100 5 sl NOTE: These two were enumerated next to each other. Some ages of these people can be found below. 1850 Census Richland Co., SC p24 (this is a jail) Columbia 420 431 WILLIAM J NEVILLE 1849, 30, m, printer, SC, burglary 429 440 HENRY W NEVILLE, 54, m, cabinet maker, SC ANN M, 54, f, SC WILLIAM, 30, m, cabinet maker, SC HENRIETTA, 26, f, SC MARGARET, 24, f, SC ELIZABETH, 22, f, SC HENRY, 20, m, printer, SC THOMAS, 18, m, printer, SC JUNIUS, 14, m, SC, school p28 484 499 JOSHUA NEVILLE, 85, m, cabinet maker, England CLEMENT B, 32, m, clerk, 1300, SC MARY E, 28, F, 700, SC ---------- Marriage and Death Notices from Columbia, South Carolina Newspapers 1838-1860 (including legal notices from burnt counties) by Brent Howard Holcomb p. 91 The South-Carolinian Issue of February 3, 1851 Died, at the residence of his daughter, in Warren County, Ga., of asthma, on Monday, the 10th instant, Joshua Neville, in the 86th year of his age. he was a native of Ireland, and removed to Charleston, S.C., at an early age.... [ellipsis are in the text] -------------------- Note the above discrepancies on places of birth for Joshua--Ireland and England. Ireland seems more likely, since he always gave that place himself. However, one of our former Neville list members, Sandi Frierson, said that her family tradition was that Joshua Neville's family was originally from England, and that he was disinherited because he was a Quaker. I have more which I can forward to you about Joshua Neville and his line. He and his son Henry were cabinetmakers in Charleston and were in several suits there in an effort to obtain payments for work they did for various people. William J. Neville on the above Richland Co. (Columbia), SC census may have been Henry's son (listed both in jail and at home with Henry on the above Richland Co. census) or brother (son of Joshua) or nephew (son of one of Joshua's older children). Perhaps others on the Neville discussion list have more information about the Accomack Co., VA Neville line. Jan

We have twins in the more recent generations, all identical. My aunts were identical: Caroline and Katherine Neville b. 1918. My brothers were identical: Gerald and Daryl Stedman b. 1951. My sister had identical twins, but she was adopted from my father's brother and twins also run in his family. Marilyn Georgeson [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/9517/Genealogy.html [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > NEVILLE-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 346 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [NEVILLE-L] Any Neville Twins? ["The Nevilles" <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NEVILLE-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Any Neville Twins?? > Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 09:28:01 -0500 > From: "The Nevilles" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > In response to your question my name is William J Neville and I am a twin I > am not aware of other twins in past generations but I have not had a chance > to go back very far what little research I have done makes me think that my > ancestors may have come from South Carolina > -----Original Message----- > From: Paddy Chitty <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 9:13 PM > Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Any Neville Twins?? > > >On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:26:31 -050 in Email: NEVILLE-L you wrote: > > > >: The Neville Family of England and The United States by Frances Beal Smith > >: Hodges (pub. 1964 by Mrs. John Hart Wilson) shows three children for > >: George William Neville & Sadie Bandy: Vera Lucille, William Leslie & > >: George. For Henry Harrison Neville & Elizabeth Bandy it shows Martha > >: Frances, William Otis, Mary, Nellie, Ray & unnamed twins. I have a few > >: dates for this second family from an LDS Family Group Sheet and from > >: Cedar Hill, Harrison Co. Cem. Rec's. This material remains to be > >: verified. > > > >The above mention of twins got me to wondering if there are any other > >instances of twins in anyone's Neville line. There were twins in > >my Thomas Nevill's, s/o Moses NEVILL of Harford MD and Ontario, line but > >I suspect it came from the maternal line as the grandfather of Mary SECORD > >w/o Thomas NEVILL was a himself a twin. > > > > Paddy > > > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > >Archived postings to the NEVILLE mailing list can be found on the WEB at: > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > >

In response to your question my name is William J Neville and I am a twin I am not aware of other twins in past generations but I have not had a chance to go back very far what little research I have done makes me think that my ancestors may have come from South Carolina -----Original Message----- From: Paddy Chitty <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 9:13 PM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Any Neville Twins?? >On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:26:31 -050 in Email: NEVILLE-L you wrote: > >: The Neville Family of England and The United States by Frances Beal Smith >: Hodges (pub. 1964 by Mrs. John Hart Wilson) shows three children for >: George William Neville & Sadie Bandy: Vera Lucille, William Leslie & >: George. For Henry Harrison Neville & Elizabeth Bandy it shows Martha >: Frances, William Otis, Mary, Nellie, Ray & unnamed twins. I have a few >: dates for this second family from an LDS Family Group Sheet and from >: Cedar Hill, Harrison Co. Cem. Rec's. This material remains to be >: verified. > >The above mention of twins got me to wondering if there are any other >instances of twins in anyone's Neville line. There were twins in >my Thomas Nevill's, s/o Moses NEVILL of Harford MD and Ontario, line but >I suspect it came from the maternal line as the grandfather of Mary SECORD >w/o Thomas NEVILL was a himself a twin. > > Paddy > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Archived postings to the NEVILLE mailing list can be found on the WEB at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Yes there are twins in my line. I am getting ready to leave town and will need to look into it when I return. I do have a family group picture showing the girs, twins that is. [email protected] ---------- > From: Paddy Chitty <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Any Neville Twins?? > Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 9:07 PM > > On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:26:31 -050 in Email: NEVILLE-L you wrote: > > : The Neville Family of England and The United States by Frances Beal Smith > : Hodges (pub. 1964 by Mrs. John Hart Wilson) shows three children for > : George William Neville & Sadie Bandy: Vera Lucille, William Leslie & > : George. For Henry Harrison Neville & Elizabeth Bandy it shows Martha > : Frances, William Otis, Mary, Nellie, Ray & unnamed twins. I have a few > : dates for this second family from an LDS Family Group Sheet and from > : Cedar Hill, Harrison Co. Cem. Rec's. This material remains to be > : verified. > > The above mention of twins got me to wondering if there are any other > instances of twins in anyone's Neville line. There were twins in > my Thomas Nevill's, s/o Moses NEVILL of Harford MD and Ontario, line but > I suspect it came from the maternal line as the grandfather of Mary SECORD > w/o Thomas NEVILL was a himself a twin. > > Paddy > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Archived postings to the NEVILLE mailing list can be found on the WEB at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:26:31 -050 in Email: NEVILLE-L you wrote: : The Neville Family of England and The United States by Frances Beal Smith : Hodges (pub. 1964 by Mrs. John Hart Wilson) shows three children for : George William Neville & Sadie Bandy: Vera Lucille, William Leslie & : George. For Henry Harrison Neville & Elizabeth Bandy it shows Martha : Frances, William Otis, Mary, Nellie, Ray & unnamed twins. I have a few : dates for this second family from an LDS Family Group Sheet and from : Cedar Hill, Harrison Co. Cem. Rec's. This material remains to be : verified. The above mention of twins got me to wondering if there are any other instances of twins in anyone's Neville line. There were twins in my Thomas Nevill's, s/o Moses NEVILL of Harford MD and Ontario, line but I suspect it came from the maternal line as the grandfather of Mary SECORD w/o Thomas NEVILL was a himself a twin. Paddy

On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:26:31 -050 in Email: NEVILLE-L you wrote: : The Neville Family of England and The United States by Frances Beal Smith : Hodges (pub. 1964 by Mrs. John Hart Wilson) shows three children for : George William Neville & Sadie Bandy: Vera Lucille, William Leslie & : George. For Henry Harrison Neville & Elizabeth Bandy it shows Martha : Frances, William Otis, Mary, Nellie, Ray & unnamed twins. I have a few : dates for this second family from an LDS Family Group Sheet and from : Cedar Hill, Harrison Co. Cem. Rec's. This material remains to be : verified. The above mention of twins got me to wondering if there are any other instances of twins in anyone's Neville line. There were twins in my Thomas Nevill's, s/o Moses NEVILL of Harford MD and Ontario, line but I suspect it came from the maternal line as the grandfather of Mary SECORD w/o Thomas NEVILL was a himself a twin. Paddy

Where do you think the name Cinderella came from? (child of William Neville Sr.). I ask because I descend from a Cinderella Mc Clain and I'm aware that in early KY the McClains lived near Boones and Nevilles. I thought maybe the name came from a lady named Cinderella Recer (Racer, Rector) who married William McClain. Her family was from the Germana settlement of Frederick County VA and so also near Nevilles again. Cinderella is such an unusual name! ---------- > From: CONNIE L SHEETS <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NEVILLE-L] William Nevill Sr Bible > Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 7:53 AM > > Following is a complete transcription of the Bible Record I have: > > "Copy of Record from family Bible of William Nevill, Sr. > > William Nevill born Apr 5th 1788. > Mildred Nevill, his wife, " Oct 29th 1791. > > Their children as follows: > > Sarah Jackman Nevill born Mar 1st 1808 > died June 17th 1834 > Malinda Jane Nevill born Jan 1st 1810 > Elizabeth Kilpatrick Nevill " Apr 24th 1812 > Henry O'Bannon Nevill " June 25th 1815 > James Morgan Nevill " " " 1815 [twins] > William Warder Nevill " July 1st 1819 > Joseph Dotson Nevill " Aug 8th 1822 > John Rowen Nevill " Jan 28th 1828 > Mildred Cinderella Nevill " Feb 17th 1830 > George Walker Nevill " Jan 17th 1833 > > Copied from Bible by Melissa Hunley and sent to Virginia Anderson and > that copy sent to me at Bethany, Mo. in 1912." > > [The "me" apparently refers to Lillian Nevill Prentiss (1870-1959), > granddaughter of James Morgan Nevill] > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Archived postings to the NEVILLE mailing list can be found on the WEB at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

At 04:10 PM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I can't find your 8/31 post to the list (apparently lengthy) of > references on Salem, W.NJ James Nevill. > > Would you please repost it? > > Thank you and Ho! Ho! Ho! > > Peter Neville ------------------- Peter, Below is the post I sent earlier on Nevilles of NJ and PA in response to a new list member's query. Shirley supplemented with some other notes, and I have a few more references I found a couple of months ago which I haven't transcribed yet. Do you want them, too? Sounds like you are in the Christmas spirit. Have you put together all the Christmas toys yet (bolt A in slot A under latch X with the assembly facing northeast toward the winter solstice in Norway)? Jan -------------- Linda, Welcome to the list. I don't recall anyone on our list researching the Nevilles in your query, but perhaps some of us have some clues that will help. Have you also listed your query with the other Neville list whose subscribers are looking for Nevilles in England, Ireland, Autralia, etc.? A Rev. War pension listed below concerns a Henry Nevel, Senior, of Montgomery Co., PA who was in Germantown during the Rev. War. It's possible he was related to Peter or Henry Nevell found in Robert Engle's will of 1696. Where did you find Robert's will? Other records below relate to a James Nevill/Nevell who was in the West Jersey area in the 1600s (Salem and Burlington are both mentioned in the records below). James also worked for William Penn in Pennsylvania. I am going to list more notes than you probably wish to see, but I was intending to post the Salem, New Jersey Nevill notes to the list anyway. If they don't help you, maybe they will help someone else. -------------------- Selected Records from Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Applications (copied by a correspondent in Shreveport, LA 2/1989) Henry Nevel Pennsylvania #541916 Co. Montgomery, Pennsylvania, Priv., Capt. Lamar's (or LaMorris) Company Inf. Col. De Haas Regiment in Pennsylvania 1st Pennsylvania Batt. from 27 Oct. 1775 - 1776 Certificate of pension issued 26 Apr 1832 - sent to Morristown, PA Montgomery Co., Pennsylvania - Court of Com. Pleas - 16 Apl 1832 Henry Nevel, Senior, resident in said county - weaver, age 79 - marched from Germantown to Canada in 1776 - His Batt. burned Fort St. Anns a British fort on St. Laurence River in Canada - honorably discharged at Philadelphia 24 Dec 1776 - His discharge paper was taken from his house by British at battle of Germantown in which he was engaged as volunteer under Capt. Haslett Co. - Col. Curry's Regt. Reason for not making earlier application - he owned house and 10 acres - but last 10 years afflicted with gravel or stone - can't work I have no wife living - My children consist of two sons and four daughters - married and have own family to support. Lists property and debts. Earlier query about pension from Annie D. Sanders, 424 North Street, McSherrytown, PA, 21 Sep 1933. ---------------- Patents and Deeds and Other Early Records of New Jersey 1664-1703. Edited by Wm. Nelson. Gen. Pub. Co., Inc. Baltimore, 1976. Page 316 East Jersey Deeds, etc., Liber G p. 174 ...; also 1/2 of 10 undivided shares of West Jersey, heretofore granted by John Fenwick to Edmond Warner and John Edridge, with the half of all other land in West Jersey, reserved by said Fenwick for himself and called Fenwick's Colony, and 4,500 a., the residue of 10,000 a., heretofore granted by Fenwick to Edmond Warner, which last half and 4,5000 a. were bo't by grantor of said Warner. Page 341 Town Grants, New Salem, Liber A p. 16 1679 Inrolled June 6. Do [Patent]. Same to John Payne of Salem, planter, for 10 a. there, to be called Payne's Pytle, on NEUILLS ST. along the Ten Acres Creek and next to Richd Gibbs. p. 342 Town Grants, New Salem, Liber A p. 32 1685 _____. Do [Patent]. Same [Executors of John Fenwick] to JAMES NEUILL [footnote ref. #1 after his name; footnote given below] of New Salem, gentleman, and wife Creseda, for 29 acres in New Salem between John Mattox, his own plantation, the Millers Creek and a small one (rest destroyed). Page 342 footnote #1 to James Neuill name above: JAMES NEVILL was a weaver, of Stepney, London, but in the West Jersey records is usually styled "gentleman," indicating that he did not follow his trade in this country. He came over with Fenwick, and brought a wife, but apparently no children. He seems to have had a decided taste for the law, and a fondness for writing, which led Fenwick to appoint him Secretary for the Salem Colony, April 30, 1678. He was a magistrate (commissioned Oct. 26, 1679), a conveyancer and scrivener, real estate agent, and a little of everything else. He signed the West Jersey Concessions, March 3, 1676-7. In 1681-4 he was an agent of William Penn, adversely to Fenwick. One of the volumes of Salem Records is filled with miscellaneous memoranda, made by him, of leases, law suits, contracts, etc., etc., of the greatest interest and value to the local historian. [Note-Jan: On p. 341: William Penn, "Proprietor and Governour of Pennsilvania, also Proprietor of Salem Tenth, West Jersey" listed as an executor of will of John Fenwick along with Samuel Hedge, John Smith, and Richard Tindall.] Page 373 Revel's Book of Surveys [my note-Jan: Revels were also in West Jersey] p. 115 1686 June 24. Do. Do. [return of survey] by Richard Tindall, for Joshua Barkstead, of 4,984 a. on a little creek, running out of the River Caesaria. "Examined by JAMES NEVILL, Agent to Govr Penn." Page 421: West Jersey Records, Liber B, Part 1, p. 173 1686 Oct. 2 Do [power of attorney]. JAMES NEVELL of London, citizen and merchant tailor, surviving executor of Henry Stacy of London, merchant, dec'd, and one of the executors of Mary Stacy, late of Waltham Holy Crosse, Essex Co., widow, dec'd, in right of the children of said Henry and Mary, vizt.: Samuel, joint executor of his mother's will, Mary, Elizabeth and Stacy (sic), to Elias Farr, ut supra, p. 172. ["ut supra" refers to 1684 Apr. 30 Power of Attorney: Mary Stacy of Stebonheath alias Stepeny Parish, widow and executrix of Henry Stacy, to Elias Farr of Burlington, planter, to dispose of her land in West Jersey. This power of att. also found on p. 421 of book.] My note-Jan: Here we have Burlington, West Jersey (later New Jersey) associated with a Nevell reference. A reference on p. 549 to James Nevell of Stebonheath seems to indicate he was the same person as the James Nevell of West Jersey in the above footnote. Page 430 West Jersey Records, Liber B, Part 1 p. 262 1689 Aug. 12. Do. Do. [power of attorney] JAMES NAVELL of London, citizen and merchant tailor, surviving executor of Henry Stacy of London dec'd, and of Mary Stacy of Waltham Holy Crosse, Co. of Essex, widow, dec'd, to Samuel Stacy, son of Henry and Mary, now bound beyond the seas, to act as joint executor in behalf of his sisters Mary, Elizabeth and Sarah Stacy (supra, p. 173). Page 432 West Jersey Records, Liber B, Part 1 p. 274 1689-90 Feb. 24. Bond. Samuel Stacy as attorney for JAMES NAVELL, executor of his parents (supra, p. 262), to Elias Farr of Farrsfield, W. J. , for the payment of a debt. Page 547 Salem Surveys, No. 1 p. 13 1677 Oct. 6. Do. Do. [Warrant to Samuel Hedge, Surveyor General, or his Deputy Richard Hancock] for the survey of 10 acres in the Township of New Salem for JAMES NEVILL, gentleman. Page 549 Salem Surveys, No. 2 p. 7 1678 June 21. Warrant for the survey to JAMES NEVILL of Stebonheath, alias Stepney, Co. of Middlesex, weaver, as attorney for Widow Elizabeth Smith of White-Chapple, same Co., of 500 acres in Allowayes Allotment, or as near as may be on the N.E. side of Monmouth River. p. 7 1679 July 1. Return of survey of the preceding 500 acres on Allawayes Cr. along the East side of Wm. Penton and the West side of Widow Craven's plantation. p. 8 1679 May 15. Warrant for the survey to Widow Anne Craven of New Salem, of 300 acres adjoining widow Elizabeth Smith's 500 a., "as it runneth up Monmouth River." p. 9 1679 July 1. Return of the survey of the preceding 300 acres, S. Allowayes Creek, w. Elizabeth Smith. Page 549 Salem Surveys, No. 2 p. 14 1680 Sept. 13. Minutes of a special Court, JAMES NEVILL, Wm. Penton, Richard Grey, Edw. Bradway, Edw. Wade, Comrs.... Page 553 Salem Surveys, No. 2 p. 58 [no date; in 1680s section] Political Essay on the powers of law courts &c. by JAMES NEVILL, ending with: [poetry follows] Page 577 Salem Deeds, No. 2 p. 151 1684 Oct. 13. Deed. JAMES NEVILL of New Salem, W. J., yeoman, to Tobias Quainton of the same place, planter, for 16 acres there on NEVILL ST. between Charles Angelo and the road to the Miller's Bridge. Page 577 Salem Deeds, No. 2 p. 163 (Year torn off) Oct. 13. Do. [Deed]. Anna Salter of Tuckawny, Penna., widow, by her attorney JAMES NEVILL of Salem, W. J., yeoman, to Edward Bradaway of Munmouth river, W. J., yeoman, for 100 acres on Stow Creek. Page 578 Salem Deeds, No. 3 p. 12 1684 25th d. 9th m. (Nov.). Power of attorney. Joshua Berkstead of Chohanzey to JEAMES NEVILL, as agent for the settling or selling of 500 acres at Chohanzey. Page 581 Salem Deeds, No. 3 p. 148 1686 May 29. Mortgage. Roger Milton of Windham, Salem Tenth, W. J. yeoman, to JAMES NEVILL of Salem Town, planter, on 400 acres near the mouth of Salem Creek, called Windham. p. 151 1686 Nov. 11. Deed. JAMES NEVILL of Salem to Robert Ashton and Richard Darkin, both of New Castle Co., Penna., yeomen, for the tract called Windham. Page 588 Salem Deeds, No. 4 p. 103 1688 May 20. Do. [not sure what word the "do" is repeating here] Edward Champneys of Salem Town, joiner, to Francis Gibbons of Barbadoes, merchant, for 20 acres in Salem in two 10 a. lots, the first on NEVILL ST. and along the Ten Acres Creek, the other on the same street and also along said creek. p. 110 1687-8 Feb. 13. Do. [again, not sure what is repeated] JAMES NEVILL of Salem Town, W. J., yeoman, to John Paine of the same place, planter, for 16 acres, a townlot there, on the Westside of the street, adjoining Henry Salter; bought by said NEVILL and wife CRESEDA, now dec'd, of Anna Salter, widow of Henry Salter, of Salem, dec'd, April 16, 1683. p. 606 Salem Deeds, No. 6 p. 391 1694 June 6. Do. [Deed] William Salway of Pennsilvania [sic], merchant, and William Tyler of Salem Co., W.J., tanner, as guardians at litem of Margrett Salway, daughter and executrix of Thomas Sallaway, brother of William, to Willliam Hall of Salem Co., yeoman, for 16 acres, sold by JAMES NEVILL and Sarah Pile to Isaac Burges and John Snooke May 28, 1683, by them assigned to William Hall and wife Elizabeth April 10, 1684, who assigned the same to Frances and John Abbott Sept. 30, 1686, from whom James Scole received it by assignment May 1, 1689, who dying intestate the lot descended to his brother John Scole and by him was made over to the above-mentioned thomas Sallaway, from whom his daughter inherited it. [My note - Jan: I could not find a reference to 16 acres deeded from James Nevill and Sarah Pile to Isaac Burgess and John Snooke in 1683.] Page 643 NEVILL's Book of Deeds, Liber A p. 1 1684 Oct. 27. Deed. William Penn, Proprietor and governour of Pennsilvania and of Salem Tenth, W. J., by his agent JAMES NEVILL, to John Lacroy of salem Tenth, planter, for 200 acres in said Tenth, along Delaware R. and at the N. E. side of the mouth of Jeanes Creek. I did not copy any more references from this book. Jan ----------------- At 04:04 PM 8/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >-- [ From: Lisa Herdahl * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- > >I am tracing my ENGLE family line. I have been at a stand still for many >years now. Here's my problem. Robert ENGLE who came and assumed born in >Cambridgeshire, 65 miles south of London, England settled in Evesham, >Burlington County, NJ. He married Joan HORNE and had on son John Engle. >I have tons from here down. >In Robert ENGLE will he leves his wife and son everything, but in the >case that something happens he leaves it to his two brothers PETER AND >HENRY [NEVELL, NEVILL]. Robert died in 1696, so I am going to assume >that PETER and HENRY were still living in Milltan or Millbourn >Cambrigeshire, England [as stated in his will] in the year of 1696. >Finding Robert ENGLE'S parents have been the roadblock for years. >Somewhere it was found that Roberts parents were ELIZABETH ENGLAND and >JOHN ENGLE. > >The conclusion I am coming to is ELIZABETH ENGLAND [don't know if this >is maiden name] may have married ??? [possibly John] ENGLE had at least >3 sons Robert, Paul, and Jacob who at this point seems all left England >and settled in NJ and PA about 1683. ??? ENGLE may have died and >ELIZABETH married 2nd ??? NEVELL and had son's Henry and Peter NEVELL.. > >It seems the only hope I have of coming up with Robert's parents is >through Henry and Peter Nevell. The only other info I can give which may >help is that Robert joined the friends AFTER marring Joan Horne AND Paul >and Jacob settled in Germantown PA and where Mennonites, and that they >all came from what is refered as German settlement in England. > >If anyone can shed light on this, has info that will help, or has any >ideas I would really appreicate the help. Thanks in advance for any help >.. >Lisa Engle Herdahl > >

-- [ From: Jeanne Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Glenn I see what I did - and a big oops! I put neville-l-request. Sorry, my mind is going fast <g> Jeanne

Jeanne Barton tried to forward this to the Neville List earlier, but her message was either an attachment or in something other than text format. Rootsweb surname lists cannot accept attachmentss, and all information must be in straight text format. I have reformatted her original message to make it acceptable to the Neville List on Rootsweb. Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) [email protected] ___________________________________ From: Jeanne Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] Attachment: mime \ Created: Unknown FORWARD, Original message follows ------- Date: Monday, 21-Dec-98 07:03 AM From: James H Granger \ Internet: ([email protected]) To: Jeanne Barton \ PRODIGY: (ELXC78A) Subject: Re: Fw: [IMMI-GRAND-L] Virginia land records Jeanne, Here is the text of the article, as sent to me by another list subscriber. Jim Historic Land Records Deeded to Fairfax. Documents Found in Alexandria Include Transactions Dating to 17th Century By Sylvia Moreno Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, December 19, 1998; Page B10. An Alexandria lawyer has donated thousands of old Fairfax County land records-- covering transactions that date back to the 17th century -- to the county government, which will make them available to the public. The 23,000 files were moved this week from the law office of Bernard Corbett to the Fairfax County courthouse. Corbett bought the records from the law firm of Davis and Ruffner, which specialized in handling real estate transfers, when he purchased the law firm's building in Old Town Alexandria 1 1/2 years ago and moved into its offices. Brian Conley, an archivist for the Fairfax County Public Library who examined the records before Corbett donated them, said they include abstracts of Colonial documents that will be of value to anyone researching the history of Fairfax's neighborhoods and subdivisions. The collection includes about 20,000 files on individual properties and 3,000 files on subdivisions. The files that deal with the creation of Fairfax's subdivisions "will be extremely useful for those doing community histories," Conley said. "If you have a development with 300 homes, for instance, instead of tracing 300properties, this will have the history for the entire subdivision. This speeds that process up immensely. "The donated documents also will help those doing title searches, Conley said. The files will be catalogued by the Fairfax County court clerk's office, and those of historical significance will be set aside in a special collection at the courthouse. Corbett said he plans to donate to the City of Alexandria another 18,000 files covering property transfers in the Old Town area. That donation will occur in another year or two, after city officials have come up with the space to store and display the documents, Corbett said. Together, the old Fairfax and Alexandria records were in 270 file cabinets that were taking up more than 1,000 square feet in his office building, Corbett said. "In my case, it was taking up a lot of valuable space," he said. "But what we mainly wanted was to put them in the hands of the whole county to take advantage of." Corbett's brother, Christopher, a Chantilly businessman, is a co-owner of the records. The Corbetts will seek an income tax write-off for donating the documents and are in the process of having their value determined by a professional appraiser, Bernard Corbett said.

Shirley: Thanks for your response. I did not have the names of the children of George William NEVILLE and Sadie BANDY so you've given me some new clues to explore. I can confirm much of the information you posted re: the children of Henry Harrison NEVILLE and Elizabeth BANDY using published Harrison Co MO cemetery records and the 1880 census (although I've found many errors in the published cem. records so I really need to eyeball the tombstones myself next time I'm back there). -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- It certainly sounds like you and George O. Neville have copies of the same Bible. My info on the Neville/Bandy children is slim. Perhaps someone else can add something. The Neville Family of England and The United States by Frances Beal Smith Hodges (pub. 1964 by Mrs. John Hart Wilson) shows three children for George William Neville & Sadie Bandy: Vera Lucille, William Leslie & George. For Henry Harrison Neville & Elizabeth Bandy it shows Martha Frances, William Otis, Mary, Nellie, Ray & unnamed twins. I have a few dates for this second family from an LDS Family Group Sheet and from Cedar Hill, Harrison Co. Cem. Rec's. This material remains to be verified. Martha Frances, b 8 May 1863, d 12 Sept 1875 or 76 ae 13y 3m 4d William Otis, b 3 Dec 1865, m Dollie Forbes 1889 Mary, b 21 Jly 1868, m A Achrantz 25 Jan 1893 Nellie, b 31 Oct 1879 Ray E, b 19 May 1882, d 12 Apr 1884, ly 10m 23d twins, d 11 Sept 1861 Shirley I don't know where the info came from that was on the LDS Family Grp Sheet. -------- REPLY, End of original message --------

Following is a complete transcription of the Bible Record I have: "Copy of Record from family Bible of William Nevill, Sr. William Nevill born Apr 5th 1788. Mildred Nevill, his wife, " Oct 29th 1791. Their children as follows: Sarah Jackman Nevill born Mar 1st 1808 died June 17th 1834 Malinda Jane Nevill born Jan 1st 1810 Elizabeth Kilpatrick Nevill " Apr 24th 1812 Henry O'Bannon Nevill " June 25th 1815 James Morgan Nevill " " " 1815 [twins] William Warder Nevill " July 1st 1819 Joseph Dotson Nevill " Aug 8th 1822 John Rowen Nevill " Jan 28th 1828 Mildred Cinderella Nevill " Feb 17th 1830 George Walker Nevill " Jan 17th 1833 Copied from Bible by Melissa Hunley and sent to Virginia Anderson and that copy sent to me at Bethany, Mo. in 1912." [The "me" apparently refers to Lillian Nevill Prentiss (1870-1959), granddaughter of James Morgan Nevill]

Hi Jan, I can't find your 8/31 post to the list (apparently lengthy) of references on Salem, W.NJ James Nevill. Would you please repost it? Thank you and Ho! Ho! Ho! Peter Neville

Glenn, I know you are not asking for donations but I think there are plenty of this list who are willing to pool our resources to get a few pages up and running. Let us know if you don't find a sponser and lets see what we can do. ---------- > From: Glenn Gohr <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Free Web Space for our Surname > Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 7:41 AM > > Dear Researchers: > > We have alll been given a wonderful opportunity by Rootsweb. We can have > free web space on the WWW on the Rootsweb server to post items such as > queries, wills, deeds, census records, cemetery records, marriage records, > etc. > > If no one else wants the job, I am willing to coordinate these pages. But > there is one requirement. The person who requests the web space on a > particular surname needs to be a Rootsweb Sponsor. Depending how much you > sponsor Rootsweb determines how many surname pages you can sponsor. I > believe the ratio is: $12.00 to sponsor one surname page. $25.00 would > sponsor 2 surname pages. $50.00 for 4 surnames. $100.00 for 8 surnames. > > I'm assuming that someone on the list is a Rootsweb sponsor. If so, let me > know, and I will submit your name as the sponsor, and see if they will > allow me to still be the coordinator of the page. Or, if you would rather, > you may contact Rootsweb yourself about this, and you could be the sponsor. > If you are already a Rootsweb Sponsor, then they will accept your previous > donation. > > Here is how to contact Rootsweb about a donation if you wish to: > > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > These surname pages on the Rootsweb server are on a FIRST COME FIRST SERVE > basis. I assume this means that whoever contacts them first can be in > charge of a certain surname. Although, they also say they do not have > enough available web space for every single surname yet. So we need to > jump on this opportunity. Several family surname pages are already on the > Rootsweb server. > > I am the list manager for quite a few different surname lists with > Rootsweb. I cannot financially afford to sponsor a web page for each of > the surnames I am working with. So I'm counting on someone else who is a > Rootsweb Sponsor to assist in this way. > > I believe they want all these requests in ASAP and before the end of the > year. > > Sincerely, > > Glenn Gohr > [email protected] > ________________________________________- > > Here is the message from Rootsweb: > > To all surname listowners... > > GenConnect and RootsWeb is proud to announce that GenConnect now offers > surname boards to RootsWeb sponsors. This is a wonderful way to compliment > your surname lists. (Please note... Surname boards are granted on a > first-come/first-serve basis to RootsWeb sponsors. We cannot reserve a > surname for anyone.) > > If you are interested in one of these boards please visit > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/sponsors.html > where you will find information on how to request a board for your > surname(s). > > If you are not familiar with GenConnect, spend some time visiting some of > our pages. > > Homepage: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > Surname index: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html > > Thanks, > Nancy Trice > GenConnect SysAdmin > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried the Rootsweb Surname Helper Search Engine? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html

Dear Researchers: We have alll been given a wonderful opportunity by Rootsweb. We can have free web space on the WWW on the Rootsweb server to post items such as queries, wills, deeds, census records, cemetery records, marriage records, etc. If no one else wants the job, I am willing to coordinate these pages. But there is one requirement. The person who requests the web space on a particular surname needs to be a Rootsweb Sponsor. Depending how much you sponsor Rootsweb determines how many surname pages you can sponsor. I believe the ratio is: $12.00 to sponsor one surname page. $25.00 would sponsor 2 surname pages. $50.00 for 4 surnames. $100.00 for 8 surnames. I'm assuming that someone on the list is a Rootsweb sponsor. If so, let me know, and I will submit your name as the sponsor, and see if they will allow me to still be the coordinator of the page. Or, if you would rather, you may contact Rootsweb yourself about this, and you could be the sponsor. If you are already a Rootsweb Sponsor, then they will accept your previous donation. Here is how to contact Rootsweb about a donation if you wish to: RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html These surname pages on the Rootsweb server are on a FIRST COME FIRST SERVE basis. I assume this means that whoever contacts them first can be in charge of a certain surname. Although, they also say they do not have enough available web space for every single surname yet. So we need to jump on this opportunity. Several family surname pages are already on the Rootsweb server. I am the list manager for quite a few different surname lists with Rootsweb. I cannot financially afford to sponsor a web page for each of the surnames I am working with. So I'm counting on someone else who is a Rootsweb Sponsor to assist in this way. I believe they want all these requests in ASAP and before the end of the year. Sincerely, Glenn Gohr [email protected] ________________________________________- Here is the message from Rootsweb: To all surname listowners... GenConnect and RootsWeb is proud to announce that GenConnect now offers surname boards to RootsWeb sponsors. This is a wonderful way to compliment your surname lists. (Please note... Surname boards are granted on a first-come/first-serve basis to RootsWeb sponsors. We cannot reserve a surname for anyone.) If you are interested in one of these boards please visit http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/sponsors.html where you will find information on how to request a board for your surname(s). If you are not familiar with GenConnect, spend some time visiting some of our pages. Homepage: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html Surname index: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html Thanks, Nancy Trice GenConnect SysAdmin

Connie, It certainly sounds like you and George O. Neville have copies of the same Bible. My info on the Neville/Bandy children is slim. Perhaps someone else can add something. The Neville Family of England and The United States by Frances Beal Smith Hodges (pub. 1964 by Mrs. John Hart Wilson) shows three children for George William Neville & Sadie Bandy: Vera Lucille, William Leslie & George. For Henry Harrison Neville & Elizabeth Bandy it shows Martha Frances, William Otis, Mary, Nellie, Ray & unnamed twins. I have a few dates for this second family from an LDS Family Group Sheet and from Cedar Hill, Harrison Co. Cem. Rec's. This material remains to be verified. Martha Frances, b 8 May 1863, d 12 Sept 1875 or 76 ae 13y 3m 4d William Otis, b 3 Dec 1865, m Dollie Forbes 1889 Mary, b 21 Jly 1868, m A Achrantz 25 Jan 1893 Nellie, b 31 Oct 1879 Ray E, b 19 May 1882, d 12 Apr 1884, ly 10m 23d twins, d 11 Sept 1861 Shirley I don't know where the info came from that was on the LDS Family Grp Sheet. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Thanks, Shirley: Although I have rather extensive Neville files, I had no info on JULIAN NEVILLE, other than an assumption that he lived in New Orleans. He is mentioned by name in a 30-page typed manuscript written by my great grandmother about her family's experiences escaping from NO to Northern Louisiana (Minden) where they lived for the duration of the Civil War. She describes JULIAN NEVILLE as a "kinsman of mine....and a Union man" who was deeply indebted to her husband, a wealthy cotton factor. I was just interested in learning more about him and his family. I'll do some searching in NO the next time we visit or pass through there. Cheers and best wishes for the Holidays, Jerry Dalton