Patricia, What an interesting post. My mother has done research on the Melungeons and has given some programs on them at the library where she works. She became interested in them when she was researching the Appalachain area of eastern KY. They lived mainly in the mountains from VA to GA. The doctor's statement about anemia indicating Melungeon blood is interesting. I asked mother what she thought, and she said the anemia might have been a type associated with ethnic groups around the Mediterreanean Sea. Based on what she has read, she guessed your niece's ancestors have been around this country for several generations and that some lived in the Appalachain area. When the blood test indicated a kind of anemia associated with the mid-Easterners (Turkey, in particular) or southern Europeans, the doctor could make a pretty good guess about who some of her ancestors might have been. Mother is basing her speculation on a book she read which was written by someone who discovered his Melungeon heritage after he was diagnosed with a lung ailment peculiar to those in the Mediterreanean area. If you are descended from the Melungeons, you may have a difficult time proving it without a DNA test. I read in KY Explorer that a University in Turkey is now doing those very tests to see if known descendants have DNA in common with the Turkish people. I guess you know they are said to be quite a mix, supposedly originating with various nationalities of sailors dropped off on the Carolina coast by a Spanish ship (or ships) blown off course when returning to Spain from Cartegena in South America. The sailors, who were Portuguese and Turkish as well as other ethnicities, gradually moved west from the coast and integrated with others on the fringes of society, including the Indians and Anglo-Indians. According to old stories (some fact, mostly legend), the Melungeons were so different from other races, they were scorned by all, including the African American slaves. Those with Melungeon heritage often tried to hide it. It is not likely you will find that ethnic identity on any census. The article I read in KY Explorer told of how those of Melungeon descent sometimes have children who look very different from each other with one having the nose and complexion of a Turkish native, another looking blond and northern-European, another appearing Hispanic, and a fourth perhaps having red hair and fair skin typical of the Irish--all parts of the mix in the mountains. One name for Melungeons in KY was Carmelites (or -lights, probably in reference to the color of their skin). That term has become confused with Campbellites in some families who were told they were Carmelites. The Campbellites were a religious group following Alexander Campbell and the teachings of the Disciples of Christ order (Christian Church today). The Melungeons were called by many other names, including Turks in the SC mountains. Much is being written about them today, and people are trying to reclaim their Melungeon heritage (it's amazing how many people in KY are now saying they think they have Melungeon heritage). Several books have been written about them, and I understand that information is available on the internet. As to possible Cherokee heritage, it too was often hidden in records, particularly after the removal of the Cherokee to MO and OK. I have personally found one case of a person known to have been Cherokee who is listed as white on the census. Have you tried doing research in Native American records to see if you could find a Sutton-Nevils connection? Sorry I can't give you any specifics about your original question about Mary's heritage. We have had some other list members who were connected with your George Washington Nevils line. I will be glad to check their e-mail addresses and send them to you. Have you seen the Nevils history in The People's History of Claiborne Co., TN. It has some information in it that seems to be based more on assumptions than facts, but it gives a good idea of those who may be associated with your group. Jan >A cousin told me Mary Sutton, first wife of George Washington Nevils b. >1810, and her parents were fullblooded Cherokee. I don't have info to >support this. I'll ask him where he got the info. He also said we were >descendants of the Melungeons, but I don't know where or how. Cousin >seems to have a lot of material, but I doubt if I'll ever see it. He >had a typed document, probably from handwritten copy, about my >grgrandfather, George Washington Nevils. Parts of it didn't agree with >my information, and I really believe mine is correct. My dad visited >his grandfather, GW Nevils, as a child. He inherited $100 from him when >his grandfather died in 1913. There are descendants of this Nevils >family that I believe would never admit to being part Cherokee Indian. >Thru the years, comments have been made that there was Indian blood in >my family. > Melungeons: A doctor asked my niece once if she was a descendant of >the Melungeons. Her traces of anemia indicated this, so the doctor >said. Does that tell you anything? > Pat O'Neal > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried GenConnect? >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > >

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Jan: I have not received an answer to my query. WFP is West Feliciana Parish, Louisiana. I have searched Soundex for them in La and Tx and have found not a thing. I guess my best bet is to go to WFP and look 'on the spot'. Bob Smith

Jan & David Faulkner wrote: > > Patricia, > > Welcome to the list. We have had others searching the Nevils line related > to Geo. Wash. Nevils and Mary Sutton but no information that Mary and her > family may have been Cherokee. What led you to suspect that heritage? > > Jan > > At 09:02 PM 12/16/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Seeking data on VA/TN family of MARY SUTTON, b. 5/10/1818, d. 7/1871, > >daughter of Thomas Sutton and Hannah Lawson. Mary Sutton was first wife > >(married 10/29/1840)to my great-grandfather, GEORGE WASHINGTON NEVILS, > >b. ca. 1810, d. 6/29/1913. WERE MARY AND HER PARENTS CHEROKEE INDIAN? > > > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Neville Heritage Society Home Page: > >http://www.prairienet.org/neville/ > > > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Please do NOT send attachments to the list. Jan, A cousin told me Mary Sutton, first wife of George Washington Nevils b. 1810, and her parents were fullblooded Cherokee. I don't have info to support this. I'll ask him where he got the info. He also said we were descendants of the Melungeons, but I don't know where or how. Cousin seems to have a lot of material, but I doubt if I'll ever see it. He had a typed document, probably from handwritten copy, about my grgrandfather, George Washington Nevils. Parts of it didn't agree with my information, and I really believe mine is correct. My dad visited his grandfather, GW Nevils, as a child. He inherited $100 from him when his grandfather died in 1913. There are descendants of this Nevils family that I believe would never admit to being part Cherokee Indian. Thru the years, comments have been made that there was Indian blood in my family. Melungeons: A doctor asked my niece once if she was a descendant of the Melungeons. Her traces of anemia indicated this, so the doctor said. Does that tell you anything? Pat O'Neal

Peter, Thanks for the great posts of Nowell and Nevill! Your notes do make a case for them perhaps being the same families in the records you cited. If you didn't file the following note from Barbara Jensen in Dec., you might want to now. She found a North Carolina ref. to Richard Nowell in the same area where James and Dorothy Nevill showed up in the late 1600s (Bath/Beaufort Co., NC area). Other Nevills coming to NC with James and Dorothy included Richard. As you know, we have discussed James and Dorothy perhaps being the same two people of that name up in Northampton Co., VA (across the water from Somerset Co., MD) but have found no hard evidence to support the idea yet. Shirley established that James of Norhampton Co., VA was probably the son of Richard Nevell imported by Randall Revell. Jan At 03:01 PM 12/6/98 -0500, Barbara Jensen wrote: >>From "Province of North Carolina 1663-1729 Abstracts of Land Patents" by >Margaret M. Hofmann: >Patent Book One >Page 23 Richard Nowell 1 September 1694 400 acres on little River in >Perquimans Precinct, joining the mouth of a branch, William Tomlin, and >the pocoson of the River. signed Philip Ludwell, Tho. Harvery, Wm. >Wilkison, Francis Tomes, Benj. Laker, Tho. Pollock, Saml. Swann > >Page 147 James Keith 8 September 1707 635 acres at Smyths point, >joining ye branch and Mr. Nevill. signed Thomas Cary, Saml. Swann, >Richd. Sanderson, W. Glover

Patricia, Welcome to the list. We have had others searching the Nevils line related to Geo. Wash. Nevils and Mary Sutton but no information that Mary and her family may have been Cherokee. What led you to suspect that heritage? Jan At 09:02 PM 12/16/98 -0500, you wrote: >Seeking data on VA/TN family of MARY SUTTON, b. 5/10/1818, d. 7/1871, >daughter of Thomas Sutton and Hannah Lawson. Mary Sutton was first wife >(married 10/29/1840)to my great-grandfather, GEORGE WASHINGTON NEVILS, >b. ca. 1810, d. 6/29/1913. WERE MARY AND HER PARENTS CHEROKEE INDIAN? > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Visit the Neville Heritage Society Home Page: >http://www.prairienet.org/neville/ > >

Bob, Did you ever get a response to your query below? What county and state for this 1850 census? I don't have anything to add but wondered if you had learned more about your line. Jan At 10:42 AM 12/7/98 EST, you wrote: >Could anyone tell me the relationship between Stephen and Willis NEVILLE? >They are listed on the 1850 WFP Census as next-door neighbors, Willis as >dwelling 330 and Stephen as 331. I don't find Stephen on the 1860 census. > >Bob Smith > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Visit the Neville Heritage Society Home Page: >http://www.prairienet.org/neville/ > >

Jerry, I was not following the discussion on Julian Neville very closely and may have missed quite a bit. Do you have other Neville connections besides what your great-grandmother wrote? Joseph B. Neville's A 370-Year History of One Neville Family, p. 51, shows the death date for Julian Neville, son of Morgan Neville, as 1882 (no birthdate given). No source given for this information in Neville's book. In Watt Ella Nevils Wilson's book The Neville Family of England and the United States, p. 14, is the following on Julian: "Julian Neville, died July 1882, a wealthy merchant of New Orleans before the Rebellion; an outspoken Union man, who was stripped of everything and died poor." Again, no source is given for this information. List member Ren Neville, who was in the process of moving before Christmas and may not have his computer going right now, is a descendant of Morgan Neville, Julian's father. He has collected a great deal of information on this line and may be able to help you. You said you have extensive Neville files. Have you done much LA Neville research? We have some list members looking for their roots there. Jan Faulkner At 09:03 AM 12/17/98 EST, you wrote: >Thanks, Shirley: > >Although I have rather extensive Neville files, I had no info on JULIAN >NEVILLE, other than an assumption that he lived in New Orleans. He is >mentioned by name in a 30-page typed manuscript written by my great >grandmother about her family's experiences escaping from NO to Northern >Louisiana (Minden) where they lived for the duration of the Civil War. She >describes JULIAN NEVILLE as a "kinsman of mine....and a Union man" who was >deeply indebted to her husband, a wealthy cotton factor. I was just >interested in learning more about him and his family. I'll do some searching >in NO the next time we visit or pass through there. > >Cheers and best wishes for the Holidays, Jerry Dalton > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried the Rootsweb Surname Helper Search Engine? >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > >

Can't say for sure, but Thomas Cary was likely of the Virginia Cary family. There were two early early Cary families. One in Mass who moved to NY, then PA then VA then KY and the other that stayed in Va. until early 1700's then migrated to NC and eventually some crop up Alabama. They are allied to BALLS (allied to Washington) and (I'm trying to remember, Greens perhaps?) In AL early 1800's a Cary married a FRIEND migrated from the Swedish Friends up near the Welsh Tract. Friends also married Enochs (married to Browns) who married Nevilles etc in VA/PA borde area. At any rate, another VA connection if Thomas Cary pans out. VA Cary's are very well researched and easy to look up. I really need to get my notes put into a genealogy program! Laura ---------- > From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Nowell/Nevill > Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 12:34 AM > > Peter, > > Thanks for the great posts of Nowell and Nevill! Your notes do make a case > for them perhaps being the same families in the records you cited. > > If you didn't file the following note from Barbara Jensen in Dec., you might > want to now. She found a North Carolina ref. to Richard Nowell in the same > area where James and Dorothy Nevill showed up in the late 1600s > (Bath/Beaufort Co., NC area). Other Nevills coming to NC with James and > Dorothy included Richard. As you know, we have discussed James and Dorothy > perhaps being the same two people of that name up in Northampton Co., VA > (across the water from Somerset Co., MD) but have found no hard evidence to > support the idea yet. Shirley established that James of Norhampton Co., VA > was probably the son of Richard Nevell imported by Randall Revell. > > Jan > > At 03:01 PM 12/6/98 -0500, Barbara Jensen wrote: > >>From "Province of North Carolina 1663-1729 Abstracts of Land Patents" by > >Margaret M. Hofmann: > >Patent Book One > >Page 23 Richard Nowell 1 September 1694 400 acres on little River in > >Perquimans Precinct, joining the mouth of a branch, William Tomlin, and > >the pocoson of the River. signed Philip Ludwell, Tho. Harvery, Wm. > >Wilkison, Francis Tomes, Benj. Laker, Tho. Pollock, Saml. Swann > > > >Page 147 James Keith 8 September 1707 635 acres at Smyths point, > >joining ye branch and Mr. Nevill. signed Thomas Cary, Saml. Swann, > >Richd. Sanderson, W. Glover > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried the Neville Query List on GenForum? > http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/neville

Jan, my note should have read SC/NC. I'm still not sure where the Welsh Neck settlement was except that it was on the Peedee but did find that the Welsh tract was in CECIL CO MD!! http://clab.cecil.cc.md.us/ccps/jlemma/NewMuns.htm <exerpt from that page: In 1701 the Welsh Tract (only a small part of which is in Cecil County) was granted to a colony of Welsh Baptists. Penn was again creating a protective barrier between Pennsylvania and Maryland, this time on his eastern (east of New Ireland) boundary, when he granted this land to these Welsh settlers. Penn granted them thirty thousand acres. Penn was also trying to get closer to the navigable waters of the Chesapeake Bay. When the Welsh arrived in these lands they found a few inhabitants who claimed these same lands were granted to them by Lord Baltimore. The Welsh with some dffficulty drove these settlers off their newly acquired lands. These Baptists founded a church on Iron Hill. Their church was the third Baptist Church founded in America. The now existing meeting house was constructed in 1747. Slide #35 The Welsh also found iron ore in this region. A furnace and forge was in operation on the Christina Creek near the Iron Hill mine by 1725. The period of time from the late 1600's to the early 1700's saw many new settlements arising in Maryland and in the surrounding region. It was a time period that saw the beginnings of churches, communities, farms, industry and roads in the young colonies. It was also a period of struggle and eventual compromise or coexistence between various factions who wanted the same lands: Penn and Lord Baltimore, the native peoples and the newcomers. The face of the region was changing and growing pains often accompany the face of change. <end> Something that might interest you, is that my friend and geneaology expert, Hermon Fagely, keeps hinting broadly and keeps finding instances where IRONworks seem to tie the families together. Many of my early allied families (also allied to Nevilles) seem to own or work at ironworks. Perhaps there was a network of them and each one kept in contact with the others somehow. That could explain some of the reason why they all married each other. Well, hope this information gives you a boost. Laura ---------- > From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Re: Beaufort Co NC Nevil > Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 9:26 PM > > Shirley, > > I have been looking back over your post (below) on the abstract of Thomas > Williams' will in which you mention the problem with the date translation. > > >Jan, > > > >I looked for a few things at NGS today. The will of Thomas Williams has > >been abstracted in - Dr. Stephen E Bradley, Jr., "Early Records of NC, > >vol. VII, Wills 1750-1755 (From the Secretary of State Papers)" > >(Keysville, VA: Stephen E Bradley, Jr., 1994). > > > >I suspect that the document had an error in the date, or perhaps it was > >just hard to read. Bradley translated the will date as 7 Feb 1757 and the > >March court date as 1750. Obviously that can't be right. Since these > >wills were only supposed to include 1750-1755, a date of 1757, 8 or 9 > >would not fit. The name you have as Wyriott Ormaond is Wyriot Ormond in > >the published abstract. They show the second witness as Moses (X) Nevil, > >not Thos William Junr. > > Shirley, I have a copy of J. Brian Grimes' abstract of the will in Abstract > of NC Wills (Gen. Pub. 1975). He shows the will date as Feb. 17, 1757 and a > March court date of 1758 when the will was exhibited. While those dates > don't fit the supposed range of dates for wills in Bradley's book > (1750-1755), the 1757 date Grimes has for when the will was written does > match Bradley's; the only difference is Feb. 7 in Bradley's abstract and > Feb. 17 in Grimes' version. The court dates on when the will was exhibited > in court do differ with Grimes showing the March 1758 date and Bradley's of > 1750. > > Grimes' abstract (p. 413): > Williams, Thomas Beaufort County > February 17, 1757. March court, 1858. Sons: THOMAS (land on the East side > of the mouth of Bath Town Creek, bought of Wm. Baker, and lot in Bath Town > No. 39), CHARLES and JOHN (land in the fork of Cuckolds Creek), ROBERT. > Daughters: TEMPERANCE, ANN, MARY, SARAH, and HANAH WILLIAMS, ELIZABETH > PRITCHARD. Land in the fork of Nevils Creek devised to son, CHARLES. > Estate in England and Wales ordered divided among wife and children. Wife > and Executrix: ANN. Executors: WYRIOTT ORMAOND, JAMES ELLISON, COLEMAN > ROE and THOMAS WILLIAMS. Witnesses: WILLIAM DOWD, JACOB NEVIL, JR., MOSES > NEVIL. Clerk of the Court: William Chauncy. > > After looking back at the copy of the microfilm I had on Thomas Williams' > power of attorney filed 1757 (transcription below) and the date when his > will was filed in court (which did come after the p. of a. in the court > record book), I can see the date I was having trouble transcribing from the > microfilm (copy below) could very well be 1758 for the date when Thos. > Williams' will was filed. What do you think? Does 1758 seem like the most > likely date for when the will was filed? > > I am trying to keep track of dates associated with the Nevilles in Beaufort > Co. as Paddy and I look at Moses Nevil in that county and her Moses > Nevill(e) group in Harford Co., MD. There was a Williams connection with > Paddy's Harford Co. group, too. > > Jan > ___________________________________________________________________ > The LDS microfilm records I used at the FHC are as follows: > Roll 0234276: NC County Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions (Beaufort Co., NC > 1736-1878); Roll 1672364: Wills and Estate Papers - Beaufort Co., NC > 1633-1978 (roll beginning with McDaniel, Andrew and ending with Randolph, > Justus F.); Roll 1906923: Beaufort Co., NC Estate Records (roll beginning > with Jones, John and ending with Shacklefor, James); Roll 0234281: Will > Records & Index 1720-1960 (Index F-P for 1720-1868) > ------------------- > In the following 1757 document Thomas Williams gives power of attorney to > wife Ann and Wyriott Ormaond: > > Beaufort Co., NC (prob. from NC County Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for > Beaufort Co., NC) > June Court 1757 > Know all Men by those Presents that I Thomas Williams of Beaufort County Mariner > For Divers good Causes & Considerations me hereunto moving, do Make Ordain > Authorize & Appoint & Appoint [sic] my wife Ann Williams & Wyriott(?) > Ormaond Esqr. my true & Lawfull Attorneys for me and in my Name & to my Use > to Ask Demand Sue for. . . .by these presents allowing all and whatsoever my > said Attorneys in my Name or otherways shall Lawfully do or Cause to be done > in or about all or any of the aforsd. matters & things by Virtue of those > presents and Witness whereof I have hereunto Sett my Hand & Seal the > Seventeenth Day of > February Anno Domini 1757. > Sealed and Delivered [signed] Thomas Williams seal > in the Presence of William Doud > Jacob Nevil Juener > Thos William Junr. > > My note-Jan: All names written in clerk's hand. > ----------------------- > My note-Jan: The date for the court record below looks like 1755 but that > would not fit with the will written in 1757; perhaps it should be 1758 or 1759. > March court 175(5)? (Probably form NC Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for > Beaufort Co.) > The last Will & Testament of Thomas William decd. was exhibited into court > and proved by the oath of Jacob Nevil Jun. who swore he was of sound and > disposing mind & memory at the time he executed it and that he saw Wilm. > Doud & Moses Nevil jun. the other subscribing witnesses set their hands > thereto And at the same time Ann Williams and Thomas Williams qualified as > Extrs. thereto by taking the oath by Law appointed. Ordered that the > Secretary have notice that Letters testamentary may issue. > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > You may contact the Neville list manager at: > mailto:[email protected]

Shirley, I have been looking back over your post (below) on the abstract of Thomas Williams' will in which you mention the problem with the date translation. >Jan, > >I looked for a few things at NGS today. The will of Thomas Williams has >been abstracted in - Dr. Stephen E Bradley, Jr., "Early Records of NC, >vol. VII, Wills 1750-1755 (From the Secretary of State Papers)" >(Keysville, VA: Stephen E Bradley, Jr., 1994). > >I suspect that the document had an error in the date, or perhaps it was >just hard to read. Bradley translated the will date as 7 Feb 1757 and the >March court date as 1750. Obviously that can't be right. Since these >wills were only supposed to include 1750-1755, a date of 1757, 8 or 9 >would not fit. The name you have as Wyriott Ormaond is Wyriot Ormond in >the published abstract. They show the second witness as Moses (X) Nevil, >not Thos William Junr. Shirley, I have a copy of J. Brian Grimes' abstract of the will in Abstract of NC Wills (Gen. Pub. 1975). He shows the will date as Feb. 17, 1757 and a March court date of 1758 when the will was exhibited. While those dates don't fit the supposed range of dates for wills in Bradley's book (1750-1755), the 1757 date Grimes has for when the will was written does match Bradley's; the only difference is Feb. 7 in Bradley's abstract and Feb. 17 in Grimes' version. The court dates on when the will was exhibited in court do differ with Grimes showing the March 1758 date and Bradley's of 1750. Grimes' abstract (p. 413): Williams, Thomas Beaufort County February 17, 1757. March court, 1858. Sons: THOMAS (land on the East side of the mouth of Bath Town Creek, bought of Wm. Baker, and lot in Bath Town No. 39), CHARLES and JOHN (land in the fork of Cuckolds Creek), ROBERT. Daughters: TEMPERANCE, ANN, MARY, SARAH, and HANAH WILLIAMS, ELIZABETH PRITCHARD. Land in the fork of Nevils Creek devised to son, CHARLES. Estate in England and Wales ordered divided among wife and children. Wife and Executrix: ANN. Executors: WYRIOTT ORMAOND, JAMES ELLISON, COLEMAN ROE and THOMAS WILLIAMS. Witnesses: WILLIAM DOWD, JACOB NEVIL, JR., MOSES NEVIL. Clerk of the Court: William Chauncy. After looking back at the copy of the microfilm I had on Thomas Williams' power of attorney filed 1757 (transcription below) and the date when his will was filed in court (which did come after the p. of a. in the court record book), I can see the date I was having trouble transcribing from the microfilm (copy below) could very well be 1758 for the date when Thos. Williams' will was filed. What do you think? Does 1758 seem like the most likely date for when the will was filed? I am trying to keep track of dates associated with the Nevilles in Beaufort Co. as Paddy and I look at Moses Nevil in that county and her Moses Nevill(e) group in Harford Co., MD. There was a Williams connection with Paddy's Harford Co. group, too. Jan ___________________________________________________________________ The LDS microfilm records I used at the FHC are as follows: Roll 0234276: NC County Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions (Beaufort Co., NC 1736-1878); Roll 1672364: Wills and Estate Papers - Beaufort Co., NC 1633-1978 (roll beginning with McDaniel, Andrew and ending with Randolph, Justus F.); Roll 1906923: Beaufort Co., NC Estate Records (roll beginning with Jones, John and ending with Shacklefor, James); Roll 0234281: Will Records & Index 1720-1960 (Index F-P for 1720-1868) ------------------- In the following 1757 document Thomas Williams gives power of attorney to wife Ann and Wyriott Ormaond: Beaufort Co., NC (prob. from NC County Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for Beaufort Co., NC) June Court 1757 Know all Men by those Presents that I Thomas Williams of Beaufort County Mariner For Divers good Causes & Considerations me hereunto moving, do Make Ordain Authorize & Appoint & Appoint [sic] my wife Ann Williams & Wyriott(?) Ormaond Esqr. my true & Lawfull Attorneys for me and in my Name & to my Use to Ask Demand Sue for. . . .by these presents allowing all and whatsoever my said Attorneys in my Name or otherways shall Lawfully do or Cause to be done in or about all or any of the aforsd. matters & things by Virtue of those presents and Witness whereof I have hereunto Sett my Hand & Seal the Seventeenth Day of February Anno Domini 1757. Sealed and Delivered [signed] Thomas Williams seal in the Presence of William Doud Jacob Nevil Juener Thos William Junr. My note-Jan: All names written in clerk's hand. ----------------------- My note-Jan: The date for the court record below looks like 1755 but that would not fit with the will written in 1757; perhaps it should be 1758 or 1759. March court 175(5)? (Probably form NC Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions for Beaufort Co.) The last Will & Testament of Thomas William decd. was exhibited into court and proved by the oath of Jacob Nevil Jun. who swore he was of sound and disposing mind & memory at the time he executed it and that he saw Wilm. Doud & Moses Nevil jun. the other subscribing witnesses set their hands thereto And at the same time Ann Williams and Thomas Williams qualified as Extrs. thereto by taking the oath by Law appointed. Ordered that the Secretary have notice that Letters testamentary may issue.

William, What a great find on your William J. Neville! Looks pretty certain that William J. Neville of Accomack Co., VA was Charleston, SC Joshua Neville's descendant. Once you get the generations clearly linked with evidence of who William's father was, you should have your line all the way back to Antrim County, Ireland in the 1700s! We have a world-wide Neville list, too, so maybe you will be able to find some distant cousins still living in Ireland. I have a South Carolina computer index to references for Joshua and son Henry's legal dealings in Charleston if you would like me to mail you a copy of it. I ordered it from the SC State Archives, and it is called a COM index. My copy is about 10 years old so references may have been updated since then if more court records have been uncovered. I know you can also find this index through a program at a Family History Center if one is near you. It may be available on the internet, too. I am sure the index will be of interest to you because it gives good information about the Neville cases and parties involved. Apparently, some Charleston folks liked beautifully crafted funiture but were not so good about paying their bills after Joshua and son Henry did work for them. One of their cases involves trying to collect from one of the Neufvilles (the Neufvilles have been a topic of discussion on the Neville discussion list lately). Are you now on the Neville list? Jan At 05:38 PM 1/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >Jan I have found further information on my great great grandfather William J. Neville. In the 1870 Accomack CO. VA. census he is listed as a cabinet maker born in South Carolina. Also in the Baltimore sun a wedding announcement that Wm... J. Neville of Charleston S.C. married Mary H. Nelson of Accomack CO. on July 25, 1854.I assume he was living in Baltimore at the time. I will next try to find the marriage certificate which may list his father's name and other information

Glenn, Many thanks to you, Jeanne Barton, and Michele Ule for all you are doing to set up the GenConnect boards. I am working on some source notes related to the Willliam Norvell/Nevill(e) surname in Isle of Wight and Gloucester Co., VA area and a possible Reuben Norvel/Nevil descendant in Albemarle/Amherst Co., VA area. As you know from earlier discussions, in some published accounts, a John Neville of the Isle of Wight/Glouscester Co. area has been claimed by two different groups with some accounts showing him related to the Fauquier Co., Nevilles and others showing him as part of the William Neville group of Isle of Wight. (Wm.'s group also said to be connected with the Edgecombe/Granville/Halifax/Orange Co., NC Nevilles). I know you are very busy, but when you have time, would you mind posting the sources for the data you have in your post below or letting me know the address where I can find those sources. Thanks for any help you can provide. I think if we can put together some of what Gabe and Peter have been posting with the possible Noell/Neville link in MD/northern VA and and the Norvell/Nevill link, we might come up with some new ideas (I guess answers might be too much to hope for) on the early Neville in this country. Jan At 07:11 AM 1/9/99 -0600, you wrote: >Dear Collmore, Bohannon & Neville Researchers: > >The Collmore connection that I show is: > >1. Cecily COLLMORE; md. 5 July 1658 at St. Michael's, Barbados to Dunkin >BOHANNAN, Sr., b. ca. 1637 Scotland, d. aft. 1678 Gloucester Co., VA >2. Elizabeth BOHANNAN (sister of Joseph Bohannan, below), b. ca. 1665 VA, >d. ? VA; md. ca. 1685 Isle of Wight Co., VA to John NEVILLE, Sr. (brother >of Elizabeth Neville, below), b. ca. 1661 Northampton Co., VA, d. ca. 1733 >VA; >Joseph BOHANNAN (Buchanan) (brother of Elizabeth Bohannan, above), b. bef. >1684 Gloucester Co., VA; md. Elizabeth NEVILLE (sister of John Neville, >above), b. ca. 1691 Gloucester Co., VA >3. Joseph NEVILLE, Sr. (son of John NEVILLE, Sr. & wife Elizabeth >BOHANNAN), b. ca. 1707 Isle of Wight Co., VA, d. aft. 1790 Hardy Co., VA; >md. ca. 1729 in VA to Ann BOHANNAN, b. ca. 1710 VA, d. ca. 1777 Hampshire >Co., VA (daughter of Joseph BOHANNAN and wife Elizabeth NEVILLE) (This >makes Joseph and Ann double first cousins.) > >Thanks to Michelle Ule for helping to get a GenConnect Query Board set up >for the Collmore surname. > >This message board is for researchers searching the name COLLMORE and >variant spellings. Please when you post a message to the board include in >the subject the NAME(S), LOCATION(S) and DATE(S) for your query. Other >boards can also be set up for posting ~ Bible Records ~ Biographical >Sketches ~ Deeds ~ Obituaries ~ Pension Records ~ and Wills, but someone >else would need to be the administrator for those other categories. If you >have any questions or comments please send me an e-mail. > >If you have any queries or records you would like to share, please post >them. If you aren't sure how to post queries to the various boards, try >looking at some of the records posted on other surname boards at: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html > >Please save this message or bookmark it so you will have the address for >finding the board. If you lose the addresses of the other boards they >will be difficult to find until those having Collmore websites make links >to these boards which I am hoping will happen. I plan to add it to my >Collmore website at: >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5821/collmore.html > >GenConnect Query Board for COLLMORE >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Collmore > >Global Search for all Surnames: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi?search > >Good luck to all of you in your research and Happy New Year! > >Glenn Gohr (GenConnect Collmore Query Administrator) >[email protected] > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? >http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm > >

Donna, I posted a list of George W. and Rachel K. Nevill's children some time ago (mostly gleaned and transcribed from Joseph Neville's 370-Yr. History). I thought I had forwarded a copy of that info. to you when you joined the list. Sorry, I will do so right away if you don't have a copy of 370-Yr. History. Jan At 05:48 PM 1/7/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Hi, again all, I may have missed it but has anyone ever posted a list of >George Washington Neville and Rachel Killebrew's children? I know they >had: >Robert Buckner Neville (1822-1909) >Elizabeth Earle Neville, m a Mr. Smith > >but they also may have had at least 2 other sons James, and maybe Charles? >who ended up in Tazewell Co. IL. Anyone have this list and in birth >order? > >Donna > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Please do NOT send attachments to the list. > >

I think that is has been almost a year since we signed up for membership. Isn't it time to do it again? Even tho I have not been able to find my gggrandmother Elizabeth (Nevel, Nevill etc) b: abt 1852 KY and d: 1885 MO m: to Leroy Brownlow. I have learned so much about researching from being on the List. Thank you so much. Remona Turner, Modesto, CA

Dear Collmore, Bohannon & Neville Researchers: The Collmore connection that I show is: 1. Cecily COLLMORE; md. 5 July 1658 at St. Michael's, Barbados to Dunkin BOHANNAN, Sr., b. ca. 1637 Scotland, d. aft. 1678 Gloucester Co., VA 2. Elizabeth BOHANNAN (sister of Joseph Bohannan, below), b. ca. 1665 VA, d. ? VA; md. ca. 1685 Isle of Wight Co., VA to John NEVILLE, Sr. (brother of Elizabeth Neville, below), b. ca. 1661 Northampton Co., VA, d. ca. 1733 VA; Joseph BOHANNAN (Buchanan) (brother of Elizabeth Bohannan, above), b. bef. 1684 Gloucester Co., VA; md. Elizabeth NEVILLE (sister of John Neville, above), b. ca. 1691 Gloucester Co., VA 3. Joseph NEVILLE, Sr. (son of John NEVILLE, Sr. & wife Elizabeth BOHANNAN), b. ca. 1707 Isle of Wight Co., VA, d. aft. 1790 Hardy Co., VA; md. ca. 1729 in VA to Ann BOHANNAN, b. ca. 1710 VA, d. ca. 1777 Hampshire Co., VA (daughter of Joseph BOHANNAN and wife Elizabeth NEVILLE) (This makes Joseph and Ann double first cousins.) Thanks to Michelle Ule for helping to get a GenConnect Query Board set up for the Collmore surname. This message board is for researchers searching the name COLLMORE and variant spellings. Please when you post a message to the board include in the subject the NAME(S), LOCATION(S) and DATE(S) for your query. Other boards can also be set up for posting ~ Bible Records ~ Biographical Sketches ~ Deeds ~ Obituaries ~ Pension Records ~ and Wills, but someone else would need to be the administrator for those other categories. If you have any questions or comments please send me an e-mail. If you have any queries or records you would like to share, please post them. If you aren't sure how to post queries to the various boards, try looking at some of the records posted on other surname boards at: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html Please save this message or bookmark it so you will have the address for finding the board. If you lose the addresses of the other boards they will be difficult to find until those having Collmore websites make links to these boards which I am hoping will happen. I plan to add it to my Collmore website at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5821/collmore.html GenConnect Query Board for COLLMORE http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Collmore Global Search for all Surnames: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi?search Good luck to all of you in your research and Happy New Year! Glenn Gohr (GenConnect Collmore Query Administrator) [email protected]

Dear Bohannon & Neville Researchers: As you probably know, there is reported to be a double connection between the Bohannons and the Nevilles. Dunkin Bohannan married Cecily Collmore. If I have this figured out correctly, Dunkin had a daughter, Elizabeth Bohannan who married John Neville, Sr. They had Joseph Neville, Sr. who married his double cousin, Ann Bohannan. Ann Bohannan is reported to be the daughter of Joseph Bohannan and Elizabeth Neville. Joseph Bohannan would be a son of Dunkin & Cecily. Elizabeth Neville would be a daughter of John Neville, Sr. & Elizabeth Bohannan mentioned above. Thanks to Michelle Ule for helping to get these boards set up. Maybe these will help to sort out all the Bohannon connections. Please pass the word along to others about these boards. There are now 7 GenConnect boards for BOHANNON and variant spellings. These boards will become great resources for research as the information is posted. GenConnect has a global search engine for all GenWeb counties and all surnames that have GenConnect boards. The Bohannon boards are for Queries ~ Bible Records ~ Biographical Sketches ~ Deeds ~ Obituaries ~ Pension Records ~ and Wills. Only the Query board can have replies. All other boards do not deem a reply. Any replies made to any board other than a Query board will have to be deleted with no notice so please heed this warning. If you have any records you would like to share, please post them on the appropriate boards. As of this writing, all of the boards are empty so it's going to take you who are subscribed to this discussion list to get these boards filled with information. If you aren't sure how to post queries to the various boards, try looking at some of the records posted on other surname boards at: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html Please save this message or bookmark it so you will have the addresses for finding the boards. If you lose the addresses of the other boards they will be difficult to find until those having Bohannon websites make links to these boards which I am hoping will happen. I plan to list these on my website at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/5821/bohannan.html Here are the addresses for the Boards: GenConnect Query Board for BOHANNON http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Bohannon Bible Records: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/BohannonBibl Biographies: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/BohannonBios Deeds: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/BohannonDeed Obits: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/BohannonObits Pensions: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/BohannonPens Wills http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/BohannonWill Global Search for all Surnames: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi?search Good luck to all of you in your research and Happy New Year! Glenn Gohr (Bohannon GenConnect Administrator) [email protected]

It looks farly clear to me that the Dorchester MD Nowells were neighbors of Frenchmen. The records below show: 1) James Nowell transfering land that he appearantly got from Anthony/Antoine Le Compte called "Chance" to John Harwood. LeCompte was one of the Frenchmen naturalized in MD in the 1660s or 70s. 2) James Nowell Sr. transfers land adjacent to "Chance" to his son John in 1699, 3) much later in 1754, Edward Nowell gets part of "Nowell's Plantation" adj. "Harwoods Chance". The Dorchester Nowells at least associated with some Frenchmen, and it looks like Edward was likely descended from the James and/or Johns. If the Nowells were Nevills (based on the Queen Anne Co. William Nowell and William Nevill records similarities) maybe Edward identified himself as French because his father James or John married one of the LeCompt girls? The Lecompt family became quite prominent and Edward may have been pround to have their blood. Who knows? ABSTRACTS OF THE LAND RECORDS OF DORCHESTER CO MARYLAND, James A. McAllister Jr. 4 old 70/Jan 20 1689/90 James Nowell of Dorchester county, planter and Margaret his wife to John Harwood same county, carpenter: "Nowell's Pokety" called "Chance" formerly laid out for Anthony Le Compte. Wit: Phill Pitt, Margaret Bleth. Acknowledged Mar 4 1689/90 before Henry Trippe and John Brooke. Thomas Pattison, clerk. Vol A, p. 58. 5 old 151/Jun 6 1699/James NOWELL Senr. Of Dorchester County, planter, to his son John NOWELL of Dorchester Co, planter: 150 a. called "NOWELL's Pockety" on the north side of Monsieurs Creek of Great Chaptank river, anj land laid out for Anthony leCompte called "Chance". If said John dies w/o lawful issue, said land to revert to doner. Ackn: Mar 6, 1699. Vol B 15 old 99/March 4, 1754/ William Meredith and Lettice his wife of the Colony of Virginia in King and Queen County in Parish of Strayton, Gent. to EDWARD NOWELL of Dorchester County, Mariner: part of tract called "NOWELL's Plantation" on Choptank River, adj. "Harwoods Chance" and "St. Anthonys" and containing 300 a. more or less. William Byus and John Trippe or either of them, named Attorneys for grantors to acknowledge deed. Wit: James Noell, Michael Edwards. Proved by wit and acknowledged by Wiliam Byus and John Trippe, Attorneys, March 19 1754 before Thomas Macheel (?) And James Cox Gray Justices.

Lord Baltimore issued his letter inviting French Huguenots (and other persecuted Protestants) to come settle in Maryland in 1733. Too late to have enticed our Edward over. There were however about 20 Frenchmen "naturalized" in Maryland in the 3rd quarter of the 1600s, including including a few in Dorchester County such as Antoine LeCompte, and at least on in Cecil county. There is also a "law" (or something passed) in the mid 1600s stating that the various Swedes, French, Dutch, Italians and other foreigners in Maryland may now own property, and recognizes that they had been doing so de facto already.

On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 17:48:24 -0600 (CST) Donna Carol Browning <[email protected]> writes: > >Hi, again all, I may have missed it but has anyone ever posted a list >of >George Washington Neville and Rachel Killebrew's children? I know >they >had: >Robert Buckner Neville (1822-1909) >Elizabeth Earle Neville, m a Mr. Smith > >but they also may have had at least 2 other sons James, and maybe >Charles? >who ended up in Tazewell Co. IL. Anyone have this list and in birth >order? > >Donna Donna, I don't have a definitive list, but will be glad to share with you what I have. Most still needs documentation, even if there are no question marks. George was on the 1820 census in Montgomery Co., TN & on the 1830 & 1840 Hickman Co., KY censuses. It would appear that his wife died before the 1840 census, perhaps in childbirth or soon after as the last female (assuming this child on the census was his) was born 1835-40. From those records it appears he had 11 children, 6 boys & 5 girls. The order of his children is unknown. I have arranged them as best I could. Note that I had a different death date for Robert Buckner Nevill. If others can correct or add to what I have, I would appreciate it. Unproven children of George Washington Nevill & Rachel Killebrew: 1. Christopher Owen, b 8 Oct 1800, Clarksville, TN m (1) Mary Ross, 30 Nov 1826, Christian Co, KY m (2) Elizabeth L Lindsey, 6 Nov 1846, Eureka, IL d 26 Nov 1869, Eureka, IL 2. John Bayliss, b 3 Nov 1810 m Elizabeth Ann Morrow, 12 Dec 1839, Hickman Co, KY d 3 Jan 1888, Texas Co, MO 3. Mary [??m Thomas Morrow, 23 Apr 1840, Hickman Co, KY??] 4. James [?James William?, b c1815, TN?] [m?? Margaret Gaines, 2 Apr 1844, Tazewell Co, IL??] 5. Elizabeth Earle, b 16 May 1817, Montgomery Co, TN m Asa Sersey Smith, 1837 d 8 Mch 1901, Mackinaw, Tazewell Co, IL 6. William [b Mch 1818?] [??m Malinda C Despain??] [d 24 or 27 Apr 1880, Douglas Co, MO??] bur [??Pleasant Hill Cem, Texas Co, MO??] 7. Catherine 8. Robert Buckner, b 27 Sept 1822, Montgomery Co, TN m Clarissa J Berry 1849 d 7 Sept 1907, Carlisle Co, KY 9. Joseph, b 27 Sept 1822, Montgomery Co, TN m Mardenia/Modena/Ronna Wilson, 17 Sept 1846, Hickman CO, KY 10. Bryan, [?Edwin Bryan? res 1850 with Christopher?, b c1827?] unm in 1850? 11. female [named Elizabeth according to a correspondent; since there is an earlier Elizabeth who lived to maturity this doesn't make since unless the child went by a middle name] Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]