I've just finished updating my NEAVILLE family page: http://www.prairienet.org/~ryan/neaville.htm I've added two new sections on Samuel NEAVILL who lived in Indiana and later in Marion County, Illinois. I also added a section on the NEAVILLEs who lived in Jo Daviess County, Illinois. The bulk of info is still found in chapters 3 and 8 on the NEAVILLE families who resided in Wayne, Effingham, and Marion Counties in Illinois. Also, very handy, is the index. The names in the index will link directly to their corresponding page in the book: http://www.prairienet.org/~ryan/index.htm

Does anyone know of this Sibba Newell b. 1780 VA below? Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> Would like information on possible parents of this Benjamin Bryant and any information on his first two children. Descendants of Benjamin Bryant 1 Benjamin Bryant b: October 1749 in Amherst Co., Va. d: March 06, 1835 in Warren Co., Ky. .. +Nancy Gragg b: 1755 in Amherst Co., Va. m: Aft. September 1771 in Augusta Co., Va. d: Aft. 1838 in Warren Co., kY . 2 Benjamin Bryant, Jr. b: Abt. 1772 . 2 William Bryant b: Abt. 1773 . 2 Daniel B. Bryant b: January 01, 1775 in Amherst Co., Va. d: April 29, 1829 in White Co., Il. ..... +Sibba Newell b: June 13, 1780 in Va. m: 1796 d: August 27, 1870 in White Co., Il. . 2 Susannah Bryant b: Bet. 1780 - 1782 in Va. d: 1856 in Herald's Prairie, White Co., Il. ..... +Nehemiah Kello b: 1781 in Delaware d: Bet. 1850 - 1859 in Herald's Prairie, White Co., Il. . 2 Nancy Bryant b: Bet. 1783 - 1784 in Amherst Co., Va. ..... +Henry Snell b: in Greenbriar Co., Va. m: October 30, 1806 . 2 Peachy Bryant b: 1786 in Amherst Co., Va. d: 1872 in Warren Co., Ky. ..... +John Snell, Jr. b: in Greenbriar Co., Va. m: July 29, 1805 in Lewisburg, Va. d: 1817 in Norfolk, Va. of disease contracted in the War . *2nd Husband of Peachy Bryant: ..... +Sylvester Martin b: 1774 in Va. m: April 25, 1826 in Warren Co., Ky. d: October 1844 in Warren Co., kY ==== BRYANT Mailing List ==== The New Bryant Homepage is located at http://www.poncacity.net/awiusdi/index.htm Researching in the following areas these surnames: EASTERN KY: LEMASTER, BROWN, HAMILTON, HILL, FERGUSON, WILLIAMS, VAN HOOSE, RAMEY, CURTIS, DAVIS, BLANTON,FUGATE, PELFREY, PRESTON, LACY, AUXIER, CRAIG, JONES, JUSTICE, CARY, FRIEND, OSBORN, BAZZELL. NORTH CAROLINA: BRYAN (1700'S Anson Co.), MC KENZIE (Iredell Co), VAN HOOSE OHIO/WEST VIRGINIA: FRIEND, BAZZELL, MC CLAIN, SINES, SKILES, HARFORD, HATFIELD, SURFACE, DILLON, TAYLOR, CROW, BROWN, SAYER, RAY, WOOD, GLENN, DANBRIDGE, NEVILLE, Cherokees named Smith

This is mostly for Remona, but others will surely benefit. Back in Dec. & early Jan. Remona posted info. on her Brownlow family from the Laclede Co. Census. She asked about the family listed next whether that was a Nevil family or not. I have access to all the Missouri censuses at the Public Library here in Springfield, MO. I live about an hour away from Laclede Co., MO. Here is the correct census listing for the Brownlows. I could read it fairly clear on the microfilm: 1880 Census, Osage Twp., Laclede Co., MO, 10 June 1880 Page 17, Sup. Dist. No. 4, E.D. 77 #139 #139 Brownlow, Leroy W M 34 md farmer MO TN NC " Elizabeth W F 28 md keeping house KY VA KY " Allice W F 10 s MO MO KY " James W M 7 s MO MO KY " Lorra W F 5 s MO MO KY " Ida W F 3 s MO MO KY " Margarett W F 5/12 Dec. s MO MO KY #140 #140 Nowel, Sarah W F 60 wid housekeeping can't read or write KY NC SC " Mary W F 26 dau. S KY KY KY Elizabeth Brownlow, wife of Leroy was Elizabeth Nevill, according to Remona's records. The next family, household #140, dwelling #140 is Sarah NOWEL. That is the spelling on the microfilm. Sarah Nowell is the right age to be Elizabeth's mother and is born in KY, which is is where Elizabeth's mother is reported to have been born. Mary Nowell would be the right age (2 yrs. younger) to be Elizabeth's sister. If the census is accurate, Mary could be a half-sister, as her father is listed as born in KY, while Elizabeth's father is listed as being born in VA. Of course this could just be a matter of interpretation as boundary lines changed between KY & VA. The father could have been born in the part of VA that later became KY. Also, I think NOWEL could just as well be NEVIL in all actuality. The census takers don't always spell correctly & sometimes they don't listen to what is said by the responders. It does make sense that Sarah would be Elizabeth's mother, living in the very next household. Does anyone know who Sarah's husband would have been? Glenn Gohr [email protected]

Can anyone place this Nevil for me? Can anyone tell me about where Berry Mt is? Thanks! Laura (descendant of Margaret Berry Matthews) 1 Dec 1773 Henry Key & wife Mary, AC, to Chas. Irving & Martin Key, Albemarle Co., (Margin: Orig, del. to Chas. Irving 22 Mar 1774) Henry and wife are about to remove to South Carolina and most of goods sent on to new habitation. L5, 97 acres pat. to Key, 5 June 1765. Lines: Key, Findley’s Gap, and 160 acres pat. in 1771. 400 acres pat. 15 Aug 1764. Lines: Jno Harmer, Key. Tract of 273 acres bought of Thos Phillips on W side of Cub Creek. 150 acres pat. to Key 16 Jun 1759. 400 acres in AC on branch of Tye on N side Berry’s Mt. 300 acres in AC on branch in same location as 400. Lines: Harmer, King, Col. Fry, Key. Power of Atty to them to sell and pay debt due Geo. Kippen & Co., Chas, Irving is factor; many evil and disposed persons might otherwise seize land. Wit: Wm Cabell Jr, Jas Nevil, Wm Scruggs, JAS MATTHEWS, Cornl Thomas, Jno Strutton. Page 117 is order to AC JP’s Wm Cabell Jr, Jas ?Nevil & Cornl Thomas to quiz Mary as to total of 2180 acres conveyed above in AC and Albemarle. Order of 4 Dec 1773; done 6 Dec 1773 by Cabell & Thomas

John, The following reference to a Cornelius Nevill is too early to be yours in NY, but you may find the information of interest. The last time I checked (last year), no one on our list had any information about this man. Maybe someone does now. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index: 1982-1985 Cumulation Early Settlers of Maryland by Skordas, p. 333 p. 333: Nevell, John n.a.; Maryland 1633 p. 333: Nevill, John n.a.; Maryland 1633 p. 334: Nevill, Richard n.a.; Maryland 1633 p. 334: Nevill, Richard n.a.; Maryland 1634-1641 p. 333: Nevell, John n.a.; Maryland 1639 p. 333: Nevill, Ann n.a.; Maryland 1639 p. 334: Nevill, Richard n.a.; Maryland 1641 p. 333: Nevell, John n.a.; Maryland 1646 with wife p. 333: Nevill, John n.a.; Maryland 1646 with wife p. 333: Nevill, John n.a.; Maryland 1651 p. 333: Nevell, Joanna n.a.; Maryland 1662 p. 333: Nevill, Benjamin n.a.; Maryland 1665 p. 333: Nevell, Mary n.a.; Maryland 1674 p. 333: Nevill, CORNELIUS n.a.; Maryland 1679 I don't know what the abbreviation n.a. means. That information is not in the pages I copied. Jan

John, I received your post about Cornelius Neville and will work on it more this weekend. I don't have any record of a connection between the Nevills in the Albemarle/Amherst Co., VA area and those in NY. However, in checking old posts for information that might be relevant to your search for Syracuse, NY Nevilles, I found one from Gabe Neville that I think may be of interest to you. (Gabe is one of our list members.) The Syracuse, NY connection may be a coincidence but worth checking out. Jan ------------------ Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by aus-e.mp.campus.mci.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01297 for <[email protected]>; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19334; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=U.S._House_of_Re%[email protected]> From: "Neville, Gabe" <[email protected]> To: "'Neville List'" <[email protected]> Subject: FW: reply on family names` Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:18:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 29 TEXT Resent-Message-ID: <"_cekb.A.bpE.nIID0"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/500 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-UIDL: e5d8d2cb4373b1e499eca256d6375aa9 Here's an Email my sister forwarded to me. Sounds like a line we haven't seen before. I've sent her a message encouraging her to join the group. >---------- >From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]] >Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 1997 4:25 PM >To: [email protected] >Cc: Neville, Gabe >Subject: reply on family names` > >Hi, Lyra....glad to hear from you...one of our sons used to live >in Santa Fe, so we'd fly into Albuquerque when we visited him..loved >what we saw of the city, and I love that whole high desert country. > Cotuit is a small village on Cape Cod, MA--on the south shore >halfway >between Hyannis and Falmouth (the main big towns)...Marstons Mills >is the next village no-east of us. We retired down here after many years >in Syracuse, NY. The Nevilles ( my husband's family) come from New >England... he is John F. Jr.....his gr-gr-gr-?-grandfather (Thomas) came >over to Boston from (we think) County Kerry in Ireland back in 1830---in >his own little fishing boat...carrying several other people all escaping >from British slavery in Ireland at the time. They set up fishing no.of >Boston on a little island near Beverly,MA. So most of the Nevilles >here lived around the Boston area, as far as he knows. We never did get >a good family tree figured out. > Hope this answers your question. What are you doing in >Albuquerque? sincerely, Laura Neville > ------------------ At 02:48 PM 1/11/99 +0800, you wrote: >I have been watching with anticipation the Neville List in the hope that >there might be some connection to my Neville's. >Cornelius Neville was originally born in Syracuse N.Y. and migrated down to >O'Fallon, St. Clair Co. Illinois. He married Anna Barbara Petzold who was >born in Germany. They had at least one son John Henry Neville who was born >22, Dec. 1863 in O'Fallon, St. Clair Co., Illinois. >Would anyone on the list know anything about these Neville's > >Regards, >John Aramowicz >Perth, W.A. AUSTRALIA >[email protected] > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Notice the Neaville... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:38:03 -0500 From: Diana Flynn <[email protected]> To: Rebecca Lewis Rowley <[email protected]> Subject: OBIT: Carrie Sanders THE BEDFORD DAILY TIMES MAIL BEDFORD, INDIANA FRIDAY, NOV. 8, 1940 WIDELY KNOWN WOMAN PASSES Mrs. Carrie Sanders, Widow Of Veterinarian, Dies Late Thursday. Mrs. Carrie Sanders, prominent Orange county resident and widow of Dr. H. M. Sanders, widely known veterinarian, passed away Thursday afternoon at 2:10 o'clock, following a critical illness of one week. She had been in failing health for several months. Mrs. Sanders was 64 years of age. She had lived in Mitchell for several years, and later moved to a farm near Wesley Chapel. Of late, she had been residing in the old Jones famly homestead, on State Road 37 about five miles east of Orleans. The daughter of Moses and Mary Hardman Jones, Mrs. Sanders was a native of Orange county born Dec. 13, 1875. Her husband passed away May 24, 1935. Surviving are two brothers, Arvie and Charles Jones, both of Orange county, and two sisters, Miss Ida Jones of Orange county, and Mrs. Blanche Neaville, Pittsburgh, Pa. The remains were returned to the residence yesterday to lie in state until the funeral, which will be held Saturday afternoon at 2 o'clock from Wesley Chapel. The Rev. N. I. Schoolfield, pastor of the Mitchell Methodist church, will officiate, and burial will be in the Mitchell cemetery. Haverly Mortuary is in charge. Reprinted with permission of "The Times Mail".

Dear Jan, I have been monitoring the Neville discusion and have noticed that there is a Cornelius Neville who was married and had a son named John. Would this Cornelius Neville be from Syracus, New York? If so his wife could be Anna Barbara Petzold! Would you let me know what you find out. John

Shirley, I am not sure I ever thanked you for your Nov. and Dec. posts of extensive notes on James Nevil of Albemarle and Amherst Co. I am just now getting around to comparing them to what I have. I also just realized a lawsuit you listed may have actually stated that some of James and Lucy's children were born out of wedlock. I just want to check with you to see what you think about the following abstract you posted: after 1784 - Chancery Suit in Williamsburg Chancery Court entitled Thomas vs Neville: Captain James Neville made his will 7 Mch 1752 & it was proved 9 Nov 1752. He m twice: By his first wife (name not given) he had: (1) James Neville, who d 1784 leaving Lewis; (2) Joanna Brown; (3) Hannah Matthews; (4) Mary Douglas. By his second wife, Lucy thomas, he had: (5) Cornelius Thomas, born out of marriage, who m & had John, Cornelius, Elizabeth (m John Wood), Lucy (m James Lewis), Sally (m Thos Moore); (6) Bethania, also born before marriage, m George Hilton; (7) Martha m Henry Hobson; (8) Elizabeth, d under age & unmarried; (9) Judith m Robert Mitchell of Richmond; (10) Sally m 1st Michaux & 2nd Vaughan & had a son Jacob Michaux & 3 daus, Sally m Christopher Haskins, Judith m 1st Wm Hendrick & 2nd Palmer, & Lucy m Tscharner Woodson. The widow, Lucy Neville m 2nd Abraham Childress [Wm & Mary Q 19:61] -------- Do you think the above suit actually stated that Cornelius and Bethenia were born out of wedlock or that the Wm. & Mary Q. editor was offering an interpretation of the Thomas names in James and Lucy Thomas Nevil's family? Different topic: I see from this same posting where the Palmer name came into that Nevil family. I knew I had seen the name somewhere. A Neville Palmer is working near where I live. His family is from one of the counties near Lexington, KY, but he doesn't know much about his family history, although he would like to. Thank you for taking the time to transcribe your notes. You have made so many invaluable contributions to the Neville discussions. Jan

Hi All, I posted a query on GenForum about Louis Carroll NEVIL known as "Kelly" born Feb 14, 1862 and vanished sometime in the 1930's. Kelly was known to Hobo and the family has no idea where he wound up. I received a reply that there is a Louis NEVILLE buried by himself at Wharton Cem. in Red River Co. TX. This is between Avery and Clarksville, TX. Kathy Duncan, who was kind enough to provide this info. says she had no luck tying Louis to the familys in that area. Does anyone have further info on this Louis? The family would like to end a 60 year old mystery. Milton Webb [email protected]

I have a Bartholomew Neville born abt 1820 in Cork Co. Ireland married Emmiline Cox daughter of I.C. Cox of Beaver Falls Pa. Jennifer

Hi Diane ! Thanks anyway. If I find anything to connect, I'll keep you posted. Roni

In a message dated 1/26/99 10:34:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << This is the first time I've seen anyone connect the Nevills and Cox's. I have an Elizabeth Cox b 1766 in MD (married to John McGee b. prob. in VA) whose grandson, Hiram Martin, married Catherine Jane Nevill in Barren Co., KY (prob daughter of Joseph Nevill and Ann Mackay). I don't think these Nevills connect with yours, but how about the Cox's? >> Hi Roni All I know about "my" Robert Cox is that he came from north of Belfast as a young man to VA right after the Revolution. He left behind in Ireland a mother and a brother, Thomas. Unfortunately, I have not traced the family in Ireland so therefore do not know whether there might be a connection there to your Cox family. Diane Wilson Flynn [email protected]

Hi Diane! I'm another Nevill researcher but haven't had time to do anything but watch lately...This is the first time I've seen anyone connect the Nevills and Cox's. I have an Elizabeth Cox b 1766 in MD (married to John McGee b. prob. in VA) whose grandson, Hiram Martin, married Catherine Jane Nevill in Barren Co., KY (prob daughter of Joseph Nevill and Ann Mackay). I don't think these Nevills connect with yours, but how about the Cox's? Roni Jones

In a message dated 1/24/99 1:51:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I had previously found one brief one-liner giving Galena mining permit info, but it had only one Neavill, and not John,... That you and Chris Heaton have the names James, John, and Alex, with a few dates, is a real revelation. The info that Chris Heaton passed to you,... does it give any other information, such as sector, location, or the like on any of the three? >> No -- only what I sent you. On 8/2/96, she sent me a photocopy of her notes, which she made at the Platteville Library. <<A second area, or just comment: I hadn't considered that newpapers - the Galenian - would be that useful at that early a date, giving Ephraims's marriage information in 1832.>> That info came from Sharon (and maybe from Marilyn to Sharon to me). Supposedly, the marriage info for Ephraim Neavill and Rachel Cox was in the very first issue of the Galenian. Here's my transcription of a very poor negative microfilm of the Galenian, at least twice photocopied: At Council Hill on the 29th ult. by the Rev. Mr. Thomas, Mr. EPHRAIM NEVIL, to MIss RACHEL COX. [The Rev. Mr. Thomas was still preaching in 1849 -- at White Oak Springs, La Fayette County, Wisconsin, [in a lead mining area where Ephraim, his family, and his friends also lived] according to History of La Fayette County, Wisconsin. (Chicago: Western Historical Company, MDCCCLXXXI) <Wondering outloud if there are also the names John Luff Meredith (their father) or John Thomas Wheeler Meredith (their younger brother) getting Galena mining permits. (Is the mining permit information online somewhere?)> See my answer to question no. I. Wayne -- thank you for all the information you have given me -- I keep collecting the names of people who surrounded the various NEAVILLS as friends and allied families because they all seemed to travel together or at least follow each other from place to place. Sometimes, when I can't find my people in the census, I look for my peoples' friends and neighbors and find them that way: For instance, I have already mentioned the COX family: Thomas COX[Sr.], Rachel's older brother, was a member of three territorial legislatures. His father and mother, Robert and Jane/Jean (Robinson) COX married in KY, migrated to Illinois (Kaskasia, Randolph County) somewhere around 1811 [allegedly with some of their friends -- and the NEAVILLS--but I have not been able to substantiate that.] Robert served in War of 1812 and "drowned in a freshet" abt 1814. Thomas served in the war and as the Census enumerator in Randolph Co. in 1810. Rachel’s brother, Col. Thomas Cox, had an impressive and colorful history as a pioneer in five territories: KY, MI, WI, IL and IA. Among other things, he was a deputy sheriff, census taker, tax collector, lieut.-colonel in the militia, soldier in the Black Hawk War, tavern keeper, surveyor, justice of the peace, IL state senator, Register of the Springfield U.S. Land Office, Speaker of the House of Representatives, IA Territory, and President of the Sixth Territorial Council, IA. (Col.) Thomas Cox was also, by some reports, an alcoholic and a vigilante. He d. in 1844 at the age of 57 of pneumonia and “congestion of the liver.” Five years later, his widow, Roba Bartlett Cox, her children and their families set out for California, arriving at Cajon Pass just before New Year’s Day, 1850. In the same party was Rachel’s brother, John W. COX and his family, as well as many old friends and neighbors from IA. The group arrived in Los Angeles on May 1, 1850 where John Gregg NICHOLS, jr. became the first child b. of American parents when he was b. 15 April 1851 to Florida (Cox) and John Gregg Nichols, sr. Nichols, sr. became the third mayor of Los Angeles, serving in 1852 and again from 1857 to 1858. Other friends and/or relatives, many of whom eventually went to California, had the surnames SAWTELL(E), NEW, HILLIARD, MALLARD, HULING, SANDRIDGE and SEAMANDS. (Gen.) John G. McDONALD and (Gen.) James COLLINS also came West. I have some information on why so many people left the lead mining regions of Illinois and Wisconsin which I will post in a future e-mail. Diane Wilson Flynn [email protected]

Can anyone post the early Maryland records (with source citations hopefully) for immigrant "Port Tobacco John" and especially his son William and any/all records related to the research to these early individuals? I have only managed to collect discussions of the records without ever seeing the actual records. In trying to sort out the Talbot/Queen Anne's County Nevilles, some connections seam to have emerged with 17th century William Nevill of Charles County. I'm hoping that we can finally figure out what happened to William. Thank you much! Peter Neville

Jeanne, Thanks for the response. As a novice trying to work my way through all of this; it sure is good to get feedback. I like your idea that West Chester is on the West side of the river from Chester. My understanding is that William was accused of bigamy in Charles County, but I don't actually have ANY of the early John, William etc. records. I only have what I've gleaned from NEVILLE-LIST e-mail postings. As for the exact date for Wm. Nevill conveying the West Chester lot to Sarah Noble, the book does show the exact date. I'll have to go through Talbot Co. Records. INNKEEPING: ---------- Your suggestion that the house William Nevill gave to Sarah Noble may have been an Ordinary can be backed up with some evidence. I found the record in a book called "Innkeepers of MD" or something (I still haven't retraced my steps to i.d. the source). The author is not explicit, but seems to link the the Wm Nevill to S. Noble house to "Innkeeping." I'm inserting the full record at the message bottom. John Nevil was an Innholder 80 years later and lived at "Fork" (same location as the Inn?): 15 July 1777 - 19 January 1778. JOHN NEVIL (Innholder) to Thomas Williams, Taylor - a lease of 3 ½ acres, part of the "Fork" whereon JOHN now dwells - a term of four years, paying yearly on 10 August the sum of £50 rent - Thomas to have firewood and timber for necessary repairs from any part of JOHN's land called "Birmingham's Fortune." JOHN to provide materials to build a shed to the side of the stables, to cover the old meat house and to lay an upper `floar' in the barn and pay the workmen and help saw the board timber. Wits: James Roberts, James Massey. [QA Co. Land Rec _. _. _. p. 124] [QA Co, MD Land Rec, Bk 8. Leonard. 1997]. (My Note: John Nevil bought Birmingham's Fortune in 1770 from George Lambdin of Kent County on Delaware -- QA Co, MD Land Rec, BK 7. Leonard. 1997. p.70) A John Nevil is on the rent roll for "Fork" from at least 1705 - 62: John Nevell: Land: Fork, Acrage: 3.5a; Dates: 1705-1762; Ref: #12-520. [MD Archives Index #56, Rent Rolls 1639-1776 _ v. 1-13 ] So, John the Innkeeper living at "Fork" in 1777/8 looks like the same family line as John Nevil on the rent roll for "Fork" starting in 1705 -- only 9 years after Wm. Nevill and Sarah Noble appear to be in the Ordinary business in West Chester. March 26, 1694 William Nevill and wife Jane of Talbot Co (Northern part of which became Queen Anne's in 1706) sold lots to John Salter at the FORKS of Chester river [Talbot Co. Land Rec. L.L. #7, p99-100.] I need to determine where "Fork" is and see if it could concevabley be related to the Forks where Wm. & Jane Nevill sold lots to Salter in 1694 and/or to the Wm. Sarah Noble conveyance. If Wm. sold a few lots to Salter, maybe he kept a few for himself and family? Nevills also had lots in King's Town, so it might be in that area: 19 April 1739. William Shepard, Yoeman, and Catharine his wife, to JOHN NEVILL, Planter - consideration £50 current and 3,000 pounds of tobacco - part of a lot adjoining Number Eleven in Kings Town. William and Catherine (she being first privately examined) acknowledged their deed before William Jumpe and Thomas Wilkinson. Alienation fine, one pence sterling, paid to Richard Tilghman, Jr. (QA Co. Land Rec _. _. _. p. 217) [QA Co, MD Land Rec, Bk 3. Leonard. 1997]. I clearly have quite a bit more work to do. I'm supposed to be off work next Monday, I'll try to get to either NGS or DAR library. A FEW LAST THOUGHTS: -------------- Note that Richard Tilghman, Jr. in the Kings Town transaction. That's kinda interesting given Calvert Co John's will: NEVILL, John, Calvert Co., 5th Oct., 1673 - 14th Oct., 1674. To RICHARD TILLMAN, Talbot Co., personalty. Patrick Sullivant of Talbot Co., ex. and residuary legatee of state, real and personal. Test: Ralph Blackhall, Jas. Barkhurst. 2. 16. [Maryland Calander of Wills] There are several Neville/Tillghman records in QA Co from 1736 - 1760s, including land sales etc. There's a Tilghman's Island in Talbot County just across the river from the town of Neavitt. Hmm...? FULL CITATION FROM "MD INNKEEPERS": ---------------------------------- Innkeepers of Maryland (?) 6 March 1688. Thomas Bruff, Innholder, purchased 200 acres on Chester River called "Ramsey's Folly," only one of the many transactions by which he obtained a large amount of land. Some by patent, some by purchase. One of these purchases has to do with a mysterious town called "Westchester" - formally laid out by 1689, but by whom and for what purpose? The first mention is the sale of a lot in the town, called "Whitehall; "followed by a sale of another lot in 1691 and 1693, all to John Salter. In 1694 WILLIAM NEVILLE conveyed to SARAH NOBLE the 64th lot in the town of Westchester together with a forty by twenty feet dwelling house. On 10 April 1696 Thomas Bruff, Innholder, sold a lot in Westchester to John Salter - of which no record of purchase can be found. By 15 June 1697 Thomas and Rhoda had moved to Doncaster on Wye River where they carried on the Tavern until Thomas' death in 1702. He provided for Rhoda during her lifetime; divided "Crouche's Island" and land at Doncaster between his sons Richard and Thomas; divided "Knottley's Enjoyment" between his daughters Susanna Bruff and Rebecca (Russell), and made a gift of personalty to Mary Stevenson, a third daughter (Thomas Bruff's will MCW II:246). P. 48. Peter Neville ============================================================ X-Message: #2 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:00:47, -0500 From: [email protected] ( JP BARTON) To: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Talbot Co. Free Library Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- [ From: Jeanne Barton * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Peter: I don't know anything about the Talbot Library, that mesg. was on one of the other lists I am on - but it sounded good. Yes, I spotted your post ref. the Westchester town lot - I don't think I've ever seen that before. I just didn't have time to ponder it, as I would like to. The name Westchester threw me off - this a.m. it dawned on me its probably West Chester, i.e., west of the town of Chester/Chestertown, on the river. I couldn't find it on my modern map, but it just may have been a designation meaning the west side of the river, as the river ran through the town, if I recall. You know, that's a pretty good size building, for the times [20x40]. I wonder if it was a public building, like a ordinary? I've seen church sizes noted as 20x40. John Salter was a commissioner or similar office, and evidently a land speculator, as I've come across other deeds to him, while browsing some books trying to make sense of all this. Chester Town was in existance as early as 1650s, although outranked as a port by Oxford, downriver, at the time. It evidently was deep-water even up until around the Revolution, when it was very active as a port of exit, and shipbuilding center. I also had the same thought about William and Sarah Noble, and William and his wife, Jane - possibly father and son? If you have it at your fingertips - wasn't the court record about William possibly living in bigamy in Charles Co.? If not, where? William married Sarah Noble 1694, and the same year [see if you can get the exact date] conveyed the Westchester lot to her... I wonder what this suggests? Are they an older couple and he is securing her financial security in case of his death? Then, is this lot among the lots sold by William & Jane 26 Mar 1694 [which would be 1695]? This surely needs more investigation. Now - from the book Ship Passenger Lists New York and New Jersey 1600- 1825 by Carl Boyer: John Fenwick's Colony - the oldest English speaking settlement on the DE River, Salem Co., NJ. Passengers on the Griffith 1675: [arrived, fall, 1675] p. 215 James Nevill History of the Colony.... New Jersey... p. 217 One moiety or half part of the province of NJ belonged to the Lord Berkeley, and now was sold to John Fenwick, in trust for edward Bylling and his assigns. Fenwick, in 1675, set sail to visit the new purchase in a ship from London, called the Gritfith; arriving after a good passage... he called [the place] Salem... near the DE River. Other passengers... Richard Noble... This was the first English ship that came to West Jersey, and none followed for two years, owing to a difference between Fenwick & Byllinge ... The proprietors, William Penn, Nicholas Lucas, E. Byllinge, John Eldridge and Edmond Warner.... Among other purchases of the West Jersey lands were two companies, one made up of Friends of Yorkshire, the other Friends of London [Quakers]. The same book has a list of oath of abjuration 1715-16: Rachel Neufeile [of New Rochell, widow] I think I've posted all this previously, but I'm including it to ponder if their is some connection with James Neville and Richard Noble arriving at the same time... Jeanne

---------- > From: Milton Webb <[email protected]> > To: Gibson <[email protected]> > Subject: Ships lists > Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 3:45 PM > > If you have family that came to America abourd a ship, this is a great site > to use. The site has been posted to the list before but has just moved to a > new address. > > http://istg.rootsweb.com/ > > Milton

Hi Diane, Again, you provide terrific information, THANKS! You provided several more good leads on puzzling questions that I have. I had previously found one brief one-liner giving Galena mining permit info, but it had only one Neavill, and not John,... That you and Chris Heaton have the names James, John, and Alex, with a few dates, is a real revelation. The info that Chris Heaton passed to you,... does it give any other information, such as sector, location, or the like on any of the three? A second area, or just comment: I hadn't considered that newpapers - the Galenian - would be that useful at that early a date, giving Ephraims's marriage information in 1832. I don't know where both Alexander M. and John D. were married, but assume it must have been in the Jo Daviess Co IL area, since they were already mining there prior to marriage dates (1831 and Apr 8, 1838). The disconnect I have is figuring out how/why the sisters that they married (Maria Louisa and Elizabeth Ann Meredith) arrived in that area - previous to that, I had them born and raised in Champaign Co, OH). So, I'll need to go back and search. Any one have easy access to those years of the Galenian?! Wondering outloud if there are also the names John Luff Meredith (their father) or John Thomas Wheeler Meredith (their younger brother) getting Galena mining permits. (Is the mining permit information online somewhere?) Thanks for the admonition about considering circumstantial evidence as an "open and shut case". I agree with you about the need for PROOF; I need to muzzle my exuberance! Cheers, Wayne Olsen Bonney Lake, WA

I have Nancy Ward Allen (mother of Elizabeth, William, Daniel & Polly Ward) living in Franklin Co, IL by 1820 with husband (2) James Allen. Daniel Ward & wife Suzanna Ferrill were living nearby. There are marriages for John Ward, William Ward (son of Daniel) and Nathan Ward in Hamilton Co IL 1829-1838. Those are still a few generations before Geo. W. Ward and Lela Nevels. I don't know Lela, but a place to look? Lela b. 1881 should have a death certificate someplace? And/or Geo W. Ward? Info from Neva Muehlenbein [email protected] She was descended from one of the Allen children . ____ Barbara McNamer