Seeking information on Francis NEVILLE, b. about 1764, d. 1843 Boston, MA. Francis m. Sopia COLE who d. 31 May 1813 aged 46. Their children were William who went to sea and was never heard of again. Samuel G.,Frank and Sophia, twins and Ann, b. 23 Feb. 1803. Samuel NEVILLE's mother wrote "I have heard my father(Samuel) tell what a lovely woman his mother was but how very cruel his father was to the extent he ran away from home three times, twice to Charleston, S.C. and after a third attempt taken by a Baptist minister to Derry, NH.Francis NEVILLE was married twice and it wasthe step-mother that caused the trouble. Pa's father (Francis) followed him to Charleston and brought him back and he tied him to a post in the cellar and whipped and the neighbors interfered and once he tied both boys to a tree and whipped them severely." These were extracts from a letter from Mrs. Elizabeth Neville Eldridge. This family saga presents several questions. 1. Charleston is a long way from Boston so what took young boy that distance. NEVILLE or COLE relatives? 2. William may not have wanted to return to a cruel father and step-mother. He might be a William NEVILLE who appeared out of nowhere, perhaps in the South. 3. Who was the cruel step-mother? Daughter Ann was taken under the wings of a couple from Trinity Church in Boston and married John Capen HUBBARD who was a very successful furniture maker in Boston. The only clue I have found was a christening of a William NEVILLE in 1800 in London, England, father Francis NEVILLE, mother Sophia. Can anyone give a suggestion for solving this mystery? Francis died in an Almshouse in Boston so there was no will. Jane Kennard Gilman

Hello again, Neville trackers. Looking for anyone else connected to these Nevilles. 1850 Pike Co. Missouri Census... William Neville, M, 65, Farmer, 2500, Pennsylvania Lucy B. " , F, 60, Virginia John T. " , M, 25, Farmer, Kentucky Pike Co. Missouri Land Patents, Township 54N/4W William Nevill, 1831,1833,1848, in sections 27,28 Joseph B. Nevill, 1838, in section 27 Presley Nevile, 1839, in section 21 Presley also appears in 1850 census including son, Joseph B., born abt. 1837. No marriage or census record found for Joseph B. Excerpt from History of Grant Co., Wisconsin - Biography of Francis H. Bonham: ... On Dec. 23, 1830, he was married by Rev. Mr. Watters in Pike Co., Mo., to Mary Ann, daughter of William and Lucy (Oglesby) Nevel of Shelby Co., Ky., where she was born May 24, 1812; ... ------------------- George Allison Dixon, CA

I've started a new website for those of us researching the surnames NEAVILLE, NEAVILL, and NEAVEILL: http://www.prairienet.org/neaville/homepage.html It has my complete work in progress "The Neaville Family of Southern Illinois" which includes a 1000+ name index. I also started a photo archives, so if any of you have some old (or new) photos that you can send, I'd love to add them to the collection. Thanks, Ryan

Ryan: Your webpage is really looking good! http://www.prairienet.org/neaville/homepage.html Thanks for giving us contributers credit, too. . . . I recently did some more research in Sacramento, CA, on the family of Ephraim Neavill and came up with more children for his daughter Emily A. [Neavill] New who are included below, along with the other descendant information I promised you. I am more than willing to share information about my sources with other researchers of this family. [Maximize your e-mail screen for best viewing.] More later, Diane Wilson Flynn Descendants of Ephraim Neavill 1 Ephraim Neavill b: 15 July 1806 Virginia d: 25 March 1894 Whittier, Los Angeles County, California +Rachel Cox b: Bet. 1807 - 1809 Kentucky m: 29 April 1832 Council Hill, Jo Daviess County, Illinois, by the Rev. Mr. Thomas d: 24 May 1845 White Oak Springs, La Fayette County, Wisconsin 2 Mary Jane Neavill b: 25 March 1833 Scales Mound, Illinois d: 28 February 1907 Berkeley, Alameda County, California +Edwin Sawtell b: 2 May 1829 Springfield, Erie County, Pennsylvania m: 10 October 1852 White Oak Springs, Monticello twp., Lafayette County, WI d: 29 January 1893 Roseville, Placer County, California 3 William E. Sawtell b: 9 October 1853 Wisconsin d: 18 December 1911 Roseville, Placer County, California +Estella A. Schellhous b: abt. 1864 m: 25 December 1886 Roseville, Placer County, California d: 20 December 1939 Placer County, California 3 Fayette Sawtell b: 2 February 1855 Wisconsin d: 28 February 1873 Wisconsin 3 Ruth Sawtell b: 7 July 1857 Wisconsin d: 1945 +Thomas Henry Pasco m: 16 February 1882 White Oak Springs, Lafayette County, WI 3 Caroline Sawtell b: 15 October 1859 Wisconsin d: Bef. 1885 Wisconsin 3 Edwin Sawtell, Jr. b: 13 March 1863 d: 2 December 1944 +Luetta/Etta/Ettie Scott m: 25 August 1887 Wisconsin 3 James Collins Sawtell b: 28 September 1864 White Oak Springs, Lafayette County, WI d: 16 June 1910 Candle, Alaska near Nome +Melinda Rachel Pratt m: February 1889 San Francisco, California 3 Philip Sheridan Sawtell b: 15 July 1866 Wisconsin d: 14 July 1950 Blackwell, Oklahoma +Sarah D. Cronkelton m: 29 March 1894 Elgin, Illinois 3 Junius Neville Sawtelle b: 3 January 1868 Madison, Wisconsin d: 27 September 1939 Long Beach, Los Angeles County, California +Myrtle Iva Fisher m: 9 April 1901 Sacramento, California 3 Guy Everett Sawtell b: 5 May 1871 Wisconsin d: 13 June 1945 Modesto, Stanislaus County, California +Louise Caroline Elber m: 2 February 1911 4 Guy Sawtelle 3 Eva Sawtell b: 6 October 1872 Wisconsin d: 6 August 1873 Wisconsin 3 Mazie Sawtell b: 26 March 1874 Wisconsin d: 1957 +William Hughes m: 5 September 1900 Roseville, California 3 Lola Sawtell b: 9 September 1876 Wisconsin d: 10 February 1892 Roseville, California 3 Myrtle Sawtelle b: 14 March 1879 Wisconsin d: 1 July 1967 Berkeley, Alameda County, California +Charles Godfry Keehner, Jr. b: 26 November 1877 Roseville, Placer County, California m: 9 April 1902 Roseville, California d: 21 July 1958 Berkeley, Alameda County, California 4 Carol Keehner +Hubert E. Long 4 Evelyn Keehner +Henry Brown 4 Alice Lenore Keehner b: 1919 Berkeley, Alameda County, California +Forrest Lamont Honnold m: 31 August 1941 Berkeley, Alameda County, California 2 Ellen Collins Neavill b: 5 February 1835 Illinois d: 12 November 1907 Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California +________ Red m: Bef. 1856 Placer County?, California 3 Ella M. Red b: 1856 Placer County, California d: 22 April 1938 Los Angeles County, California +Warren A. Scott b: abt. 1844 d: 9 April 1916 Los Angeles County, California 4 Flora E. Scott d: Aft. 4 April 1938 4 Mary (Sadie) Louise Scott d: Aft. 1938 *2nd Husband of Ellen Collins Neavill: +John McGraw b: 22 October 1826 Pennsylvania m: 18 March 1858 Cherokee, Bridgeport tp, Nevada County, California d: 27 January 1897 Grass Valley, Nevada County, California 3 James A. McGraw b: abt. 1859 California d: Aft. 3 October 1923 3 Wyatt J. McGraw b: Aft. 1859 2 Emily A. Neavill b: May 1837 Illinois d: 28 December 1916 Fresno, Fresno County, California +William H. New m: 4 March 1853 ?, but probably Illinois d: 11 April 1869 Galena, Jo Daviess County, Illinois? 3 Elinora New b: abt. 1854 3 _____ New b: abt. 1856 3 _____ New b: abt. 1857 3 _____ New b: abt. 1858 3 Mary New b: abt. 1860 d: Aft. 1916 +L. G. Fisher m: ?, [no children in 1910 (0,0), was married 9 years] d: Bef. 1910 3 _____ New b: abt. 1862 3 _____ New b: abt. 1863 3 Ellen C. New b: abt. 1865 Illinois d: Aft. 1910 ?, probably California +Charles M. Chalup b: abt. 1873 Ohio m: abt. 1900 ?, probably California d: Aft. 1916 California 4 Mary L. Chalup b: abt. 1902 4 Alice Ellen Chalup b: abt. 1903 3 Evaline New b: abt. January 1867 d: 12 July 1868 Galena, Jo Daviess County, Illinois? 3 _____ New b: abt. 1869 2 Edward J. Neavill b: abt. 1840 Wisconsin 2 Evaline Neavill b: abt. 1841 Iowa d: 23 June 1867 Guilford twp., Jo Daviess County, Illinois +Obadiah Taylor b: 7 November 1831 Jo Daviess County, Illinois m: 1 April 1858 d: Aft. 1878 3 Sophronia E. Taylor b: abt. 1859 Guilford twp.?, Jo Daviess County?, Illinois? 2 Harriet Elizabeth Neavill b: abt. 4 April 1844 Iowa d: 4 April 1903 Los Angeles County, California +Alvy Anderson Bloss b: 14 August 1829 Chautauqua, New York m: 18 March 1858 Cherokee, Bridgeport twp., Nevada County, California d: 2 October 1908 Fruitvale (near Oakland), Alameda County, California 3 Ephraim Parley Bloss b: 26 January 1860 d: 12 July 1885 Los Angeles County, California 3 Ida May Bloss b: 25 December 1861 d: 25 March 1929 Los Angeles County, California +Irving G. Rodgers b: abt. 1850 m: 21 December 1881 d: 2 February 1906 San Francisco, San Francisco County, California *2nd Husband of Ida May Bloss: +Edwin J. Fleming b: abt. 1872 m: 15 May 1909 Los Angeles, California d: 23 September 1930 Los Angeles County, California 3 Harriet Ellen Bloss b: 14 June 1866 Nevada City, Nevada County, California d: 3 January 1902 Lindsay, Tulare County, California +William Karin Flynn b: 11 June 1853 Stockton, San Joaquin County, California m: 15 March 1889 Lindsay, Tulare County, California d: 26 July 1923 Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California 4 Gertrude Neville Flynn b: 7 May 1890 Lindsay, Tulare County, California d: 10 January 1968 Los Angeles County, California +William Walter Mitchell b: 8 August 1890 Lemoore, Kings County, California m: 15 November 1910 Fresno, Fresno County, California d: 26 February 1966 Los Angeles County, California 4 Alvy Karin Flynn b: 4 July 1892 Bloss family homestead, San Gabriel Canyon,Azusa, Los Angeles County, California d: 4 April 1977 Long Beach, Los Angeles County, California 90801 +Jane Ellen Cassidy b: 1899 m: 4 May 1918 Bakersfield, Kern County, California d: 29 November 1956 Palm Springs, Riverside County, California *2nd Wife of Alvy Karin Flynn: +Kathryn M. Harper m: 5 January 1958 d: 27 April 1979 Los Angeles County, California 4 Emma May Flynn b: 16 May 1894 Lindsay, Tulare County, California d: 7 November 1974 +Robert Hammeraas, Sr. *2nd Husband of Emma May Flynn: +Charlie Marlowe 4 Owen Edward Flynn b: 4 April 1896 d: 13 October 1957 Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California +Eva D. (or P.?) Fyffe b: 2 April 1884 m: 26 March 1925 d: 20 February 1974 San Diego County, California 4 William Bruce Flynn, Sr. b: 31 July 1900 Lindsay, Tulare County, California d: 28 October 1972 Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara County, California +Alice Louise Kratt b: 29 June 1909 town of Marilla, Erie County, New York m: 25 March 1926 Taft, Kern County, California 3 Alvy Anderson (Allie) Bloss, Jr. b: 22 October 1868 New Columbia Hill on Road to Cherokee d: 17 February 1933 Los Angeles County, California +Greta (_______) m: Bet. 1900 - 1904 d: 10 February 1946 San Bernardino County 4 Mildred Bloss b: 13 November 1904 Los Angeles, California d: 17 April 1948 Los Angeles County, California +J. D. Doyle 3 Flora Mabel Bloss b: April 1873 d: 20 March 1880 Nevada City, Nevada County, California 3 Edna Collins Bloss b: 31 August 1885 East Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California d: 18 July 1965 Roseville, Placer County, California +Wallace M. Gordon b: abt. 1877 m: 4 May 1912 Los Angeles, California d: 27 November 1955 Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California 3 Ethel Neville Bloss b: 31 August 1885 East Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California d: 3 August 1942 Los Altos, Santa Clara County, California +Harold Ira Wood b: 16 September 1886 San Francisco, San Francisco Co., California m: 10 November 1910 Oakland, California d: 17 August 1973 Grass Valley, Nevada County, California 4 Neville Wood b: 1913 Oakland, Alameda County, California +Ignacio Freiboth m: May 1939 Papeete, Tahiti d: abt. 1942 Tahiti? *2nd Husband of Neville Wood: +Dmitry Benjamen Gumensky b: abt. 1898 Russia m: July 1942 Hawaii d: 21 May 1956 Berkeley, Alameda County, California *3rd Husband of Neville Wood: +Carl Kuhne b: 10 November 1902 Germany? m: 10 April 1964 Stanislaus County, California *4th Husband of Neville Wood: +Eivind Pedersen b: 21 January 1906 Copenhagen, Denmark m: 1 February 1970 d: 1 May 1990 *2nd Wife of Ephraim Neavill: +Catharine Van Hook b: 30 September 1814 New Jersey m: 1 October 1850 Lafayette County, Wisconsin d: 9 November 1894 Valles Mines, Jefferson Co, Missouri 2 Oscar Neavill b: abt. May 1850 d. after 1860 2 Eunice (Unus) Neavill b: 1852 Lafayette, Wisconsin +John Perks 2 Julia E. Neavill b: 26 September 1853 Lafayette County, Wisconsin d: 4 December 1914 St. Clair twp., St. Clair County, Illinois +_______ Saulsby m: Bef. 1871 Illinois? d: Bef. June 1880 3 Henry Saulsby b: abt. 1871 Illinois 3 Ephraim Saulsby b: abt. 1875 Illinois *2nd Husband of Julia E. Neavill: +George Boul b: abt. 1848 m: 26 April 1881 French Village, St. Clair County, Illinois d: 13 April 1936 St. Clair County, Illinois 3 William Boul b: abt. 3 September 1881 Illinois? d: 13 March 1916 St. Clair County, Illinois 3 Ephraim Boul 2 Adelia Neavill b: 1856 Wisconsin d: 8 September 1869 St. Clair County, Illinois

Quite by chance my wife found a Willis Nevell in the 1810 census of Isle of Wight County, Va. Has anyone searched this family and did he have a son named Stephen?? Bob

At 12:01 AM 26/02/99 -0500, Jan Faulkner wrote: >Paul, > >...I guess you know >Paddy's friend Carmen Matterson, another descendant of James and Eve >DeShired Nevills. Carmen says that James was probably James Thomas Nevills >or Thomas James Nevills. Has your research led you to the same conclusion? I spoke to Carmen by phone at Christmastime and still owe her a response to a 14 page letter she sent me shortly after that. Sure wish she had an E-mail address but, unfortunately, she doesn't own a computer. She has stayed in touch with my parents for several years now, but, as their movements are so seriously restricted (both are over 80) they passed the torch to me a couple years ago. Yeah, the temptation is tremendous to speculate that his name was Thomas James. There were SOO many of them later on... The first multiple given name in his immediate family was Agnes Nancy (James' will, believe it or not, says "Agnes or Nancy"; does the ambivalence sound familiar?) followed shortly after by her brother's - William Pew Nevills - born about 1798 in Stamford Twp.(and I know some people who will take exception to the late date, but, folks, this is the only son of James and Eve who DIDN'T serve on the British side in the War of 1812-14; he was simply too young). Our James, born about 1748, has a colourful history tramping the Sussex Co. NJ countryside from about 1775 on. Although he was educated, a schoolteacher, in fact, he did survey work in northern NJ until he and Eve made the arduous trek to Ontario about 1788. He is probably the one down there printing Bible tracts for Indians at the outbreak of the Revolutionary war, and almost certainly the one who got himself thrown in jail on Long Island for a couple years before they shipped him back to NJ where he was released by taking the Patriot oath (wink, wink). He petitioned the right people (my FATHER's ancestor, Nathathiel Pettit) and got himself, Eve, and their 5 (at that time) children out of there as quickly as possible. >Have you ever considered James Nevill who served in Washington Co., PA >during the Rev. War as a possibility for your James? I haven't and from the above you can see why. All of his friends were Loyalists, mostly of German descent (He liked their politics AND he liked their religion - the Warners, the Ostranders, the Youngs, the Vanderburgs and so many others), but he was no pacifist. He was probably one of the early converts to Wesleyan Methodism. I embrace the NC connection because of the Loyalist families, the Wilkersons, the Davis', the Hall's, all of Orange County, who, I believe, knew James' progenitors. James' children married these families descendants in Ontario. Moreover a child of James' oldest son Abraham (born 1780 in NJ) passed down the idea that the family was originally from Virginia from generation to generation. This man, William, born 1813, married the niece of Colonel Tom Talbot (one of the most powerful men in Upper Canada for many years), actually sought out an estate finder in London, England, and paid money to close the connection with "William Neville of York" and/or "Sir Thomas Neville" (whom I haven't found yet but is referred to on one of the more obscure Broderbund CD's implying he was in the Colonies 1700 or before; no lookups are listed for it and I don't own Familytreemaker). I have copies of that correspondence. Worst case scenario, assuming William was just another "wannabe", I still liked the James Neville, born 1849 Halifax Co NC (I have been using c1848 for MY James for almost two years now for reasons too long to go into here, but well before I read Jesse M Lawrence Jr's piece on 'William, the Immigrant'), the one of whom Jesse Lawrence says "need to research this James Neville". But I have another problem. I have discovered an entire family of "cousins" up here that nobody has even heard of much less has info on. As follows: - Andrew Nevills b 1800, didn't serve, lived and raised a family in Lambeth near London, Ontario. - Thomas Nevills Sr. b c1798, lived and raised a family in West Flamboro, near Hamilton, Ontario (including a son, Thomas Jr b 1824). - Richard Nevills b c1790, served with the 4th Lincoln out of Grimsby in the early days of the War of 1812 (not the 2nd Lincoln, like my family did). - James Nevills, Major, b 1787, served with the 1st Middlesex, lived and raised a family in St. Thomas, Ontario. (A few folks seem to know about him). NONE OF THESE ARE THE CHILDREN OF JAMES & EVE. (and Paddy doesn't claim them, either). I have, through the strongest CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence, concluded that they are 1st cousins of James & Eve's children. In other words, James had a brother... Who was he?? A cryptic entry in the IGI might provide a clue, but I have never had any luck in getting answers from submitters. As follows: Jacob NEVELS (M).............christened 10 Jun 1796 Ba: C511241 Father: John NEVELS German Reformed Church, New York So: 534209 Mother: Sarah VAN OSTRAND Rhinebeck-cobleskill, Schoharie NY Pr: 1002782 The date is right. The place is right. The fact that Abraham, (nephew of John, above?), son of James, also married an Ostrander girl (Deborah, b 1785, daughter of Andress, granddaughter of Isaac) really makes me wonder. Jesse Lawrence Jr mentions a Thomas b 1732 as a brother of 1749James, but not a John. So what does that do to one of my theories?? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. >...Paddy has pointed out >that the Barnes surname is linked with her Nevills. Several Barneses are >buried in the same cemetery as the Nevills in Harford Co., MD where Paddy's >Nevills lived. > Try as we might Paddy and I don't really believe we are related at all, at least, not on this continent. There are no Barnes in my line and my database is over 2000 handpicked individuals and still growing. Paul Bingle Brampton, Ontario, CANADA E-mail: [email protected]

Hi Paddy, Jan and others, Were y'all ever able to determine if Moses Nevill of Beaufort, NC had any connection with Moses of Harford Co, MD? I followed your exchanges but don't recall seeing how the comparison of signatures flushed out. Also, this was the record that Jan found that was VERY interesting: 1753, July 17, WILLIAM NEVILLE, son of JACOB, is named as grandson of Edward Matthews in Craven Co., NC will. Also named in Matthews will: daughter Ann (wife of Cornelius Gray), Mary Matthews, Elizabeth Winfield and Sarah Matthews; daughters Pricilla, Lucretia and Luremia Matthews Executrix. Lawrence Hyland Executor. Test: Martin Hagen, Thomas Mitchell, Elizabeth Rigbe. (NC Hist. & Gen. Reg., Vol. 1, p. 345, "Abstracts of Wills.") Was anyone ever able to determine if this Thomas Mitchell was the Thomas Mitchell of Harford? I'd also like to point out that not only does this record have Nevilles, Matthews, and Thomas Mitchell in the same record as was pointed out earlier, but that the Hyland family was very prominent in Cecil county and had business dealings my Nevilles over a few generations. So, we have Nevilles, Matthews, Thomas Mitchell and Hyland all in one record. Paddy, I confess that I've never developed a grasp on the structure of your Harford County Neville family. Would you happen to have some kind of synopsis, narrative or family group sheets that I could get copies of to digest? Thanks, Peter ------------------------Reply Separator--------------------- X-Message: #8 Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 20:37:03 -0500 (EST) From: Paddy Chitty <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [NEVILLE-L] Edward Neville/Jean de Neufville Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Peter & Gabe, I know I mentioned this to Jan but do not think I posted it to the list. My Thomas NEVILL s/o Moses of Harford, MD, married Mary SECORD in 1808 here in Ontario, Canada. Mary SECORD is a descendant of Ambroise SICARD of New Rochelle, New York who was a contemporary of Dr. Jean de Neufville. I have often wondered if the families were acquainted some 100 years earlier in N.Y. Just some food for thought. Paddy

Jan, I have two documents with James NEVIL's signature. Both concern the coming marriage of Polly NEVIL and Wm WHITEHEAD. The first is a marriage bond of 6 July, 1819 that Wm C Whitehead and Reuben J. NEVIL entered, it is signed by Wm C WHITEHEAD and James NEVIL. The second is a document asking the clerk of Amherst Co. to let Mr. William C Whitehead have a license to marry Polly NEVIL and is signed by Thomas NEVIL (the C signature), Reuben J NEVIL and James NEVIL dated 6 July 1819. Milton ---------- > From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Nevils that stayed in TN > Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:01 PM > > Milton and Daris, > > The James Nevil, b. 1796, who is in the family tree Thomas and Elizabeth > Tiller Nevil, which Daris shared, shows him married to Sally Schrader 22 May > 1818. I have a microfilm copy of the Amherst Co., VA Marriage records which > show the marriage as follows: 1818 May 22 James Nevils, husband; Sally > Shrader, wife; George Shrader, security & witness. > > There is one problem with James Nevil who m. Sally Shrader. He seems to be > listed in two different families. In Ivan B. Nevill, Sr.'s book, Genealogy > of the Nevill Family, he is also shown as James Nevil (no birth or death > date), the son of Col. James Nevil who was born 1728 and died 12-20-1784 in > Amherst Co., VA. Col. James Nevil does name a son James in his will, which > is in the Nevill book. Ivan Nevill shows the source for the will as Amherst > Co. Will Book 2, 1780-1786; he also shows the will was presented to court > Feb. 7, 1785. I am trying to learn what happened to the James named in the > will of 1784 and the James who was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Tiller > Nevil, who also lived in Amherst Co.. It looks like two James Nevils could > have been in Amherst Co. about the same time. How did you learn that Thomas > had a son James? > > Jan > > > == > Husband: James NEVIL > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > Birth: 1796 > Death: > Burial: > Marriage: 22 May 1818 > Father: Thomas C. NEVIL (b 1764) > Mother: Elizabeth TILLER > ============================================================ > ============== > Wife: Sally SHRADER > > > At 01:44 AM 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote: > >Not all of Thomas line left TN and went to TX. James and family stayed. > >These burials are in the Old Baker Cemetery, now the Bradford Cemetery, in > >Bradford right down the road from Skullbone. > > > >NEVIL Suzanne wife of James 3-27-1834 5-4-1854 > >NEVIL M.A. wife of J.M. 1-6-1849 2-4-1892 > >NEVIL James Madison 12-16-1838 11-28-1912 > > > >There are several more all descendants of James. > > > >Milton > > > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > >You may contact the Neville list manager at: > >mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried GenConnect? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html >

>From what I have gathered to date, I don't think James, son of James & Mary (Lewis) Neville, had any heirs. He appears on the personal property tax lists for the first time in 1787, which allows us to make a birth estimation. I suggest those interested in him take a look at the Amherst County deeds. The early ones were transcribed & published by Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis in The Deeds of Amherst County, Virginia 1751-1807 and Albemarle County Virginia 1748-1763. This James is likely the man for whom an administration bond was issued 27 November 1832, Nelson Co., VA to Lafayette Nevil who would have been his nephew (Nelson Co. Wills D:203). Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Jan, I looked in my database on James, son of Thomas, and I don't show any sources. I must have gotten the info from local relatives here in the Dallas area. The James Madison that Milton and I were originally discussing is actually the son of Reuben Nevil (Sr). It gets very confusion with all these James Nevil's :-). Daris Jan & David Faulkner wrote: > Milton and Daris, > > The James Nevil, b. 1796, who is in the family tree Thomas and Elizabeth > Tiller Nevil, which Daris shared, shows him married to Sally Schrader 22 May > 1818. I have a microfilm copy of the Amherst Co., VA Marriage records which > show the marriage as follows: 1818 May 22 James Nevils, husband; Sally > Shrader, wife; George Shrader, security & witness. > > There is one problem with James Nevil who m. Sally Shrader. He seems to be > listed in two different families. In Ivan B. Nevill, Sr.'s book, Genealogy > of the Nevill Family, he is also shown as James Nevil (no birth or death > date), the son of Col. James Nevil who was born 1728 and died 12-20-1784 in > Amherst Co., VA. Col. James Nevil does name a son James in his will, which > is in the Nevill book. Ivan Nevill shows the source for the will as Amherst > Co. Will Book 2, 1780-1786; he also shows the will was presented to court > Feb. 7, 1785. I am trying to learn what happened to the James named in the > will of 1784 and the James who was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Tiller > Nevil, who also lived in Amherst Co.. It looks like two James Nevils could > have been in Amherst Co. about the same time. How did you learn that Thomas > had a son James? > > Jan > > > == > Husband: James NEVIL > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > Birth: 1796 > Death: > Burial: > Marriage: 22 May 1818 > Father: Thomas C. NEVIL (b 1764) > Mother: Elizabeth TILLER > ============================================================ > ============== > Wife: Sally SHRADER > > At 01:44 AM 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote: > >Not all of Thomas line left TN and went to TX. James and family stayed. > >These burials are in the Old Baker Cemetery, now the Bradford Cemetery, in > >Bradford right down the road from Skullbone. > > > >NEVIL Suzanne wife of James 3-27-1834 5-4-1854 > >NEVIL M.A. wife of J.M. 1-6-1849 2-4-1892 > >NEVIL James Madison 12-16-1838 11-28-1912 > > > >There are several more all descendants of James. > > > >Milton > > > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > >You may contact the Neville list manager at: > >mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried GenConnect? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html

Paul, Welcome to the list and thank you for the great post! I guess you know Paddy's friend Carmen Matterson, another descendant of James and Eve DeShired Nevills. Carmen says that James was probably James Thomas Nevills or Thomas James Nevills. Has your research led you to the same conclusion? Have you ever considered James Nevill who served in Washington Co., PA during the Rev. War as a possibility for your James? Philip Nevill served in the same county, and may be the same Philip Nevill who is found in MD Rev. War records. In the 1790s a Philip Nevill appeared in the Spanish Natchez Territory records (present day Mississippi in the area along the MS River around Natchez. James Nevill appears in one record of property with which Philip is also associated. Since Philip's daughter Mary (Polly) Nevill McFall Ashley stated that she was born in MD, I think the Philip Nevill in MS is the same as the one found in PA and MD records in the Rev. War. Some of those who went to Natchez were looking for land and others were disaffected with the outcome of the Revolutionary War. James disappeared from the records after a 1790's reference to his land on Bayou Pierre. Later the land was bought by William Mackey, but Philip was given as the owner, not James. So far, no record of transfer of the land has turned up (much information may still be in the Spanish Archives in Madrid or the Cuban archives). I have no idea what the relationship between Philip and James might be. I think it is possible Philip was an indentured servant who came to MD shortly before the war (have a reference to a Philip Nevil who left London for MD in early 1770s), and who may have joined the patriots' cause to escape indenture. James is a puzzle. We don't know if he died shortly after coming to Natchez or got there and didn't like the climate and went somewhere else. Philip named his son Thomas, which could be a family name on his side of the family. I have posted records which back up the above information and will be glad to do so again, but I just wanted to see what you thought about James Nevill who was in the Washington Co., PA Rev. War records. One other little tantalizing detail: according to a group sheet from a Philip Nevill descendant, one of Philip's daughters, Nelly Nevill Travillion, named a son Philip Bass or Barnes Nevill. Paddy has pointed out that the Barnes surname is linked with her Nevills. Several Barneses are buried in the same cemetery as the Nevills in Harford Co., MD where Paddy's Nevills lived. Jan At 11:42 AM 2/24/99 -0500, you wrote: >A few weeks back I remember reading about a website <http://leo.vsla.edu> >which had frustrated the efforts of one of the listmembers. My brouser IS >Java enabled so I tried myself and got a pleasant surprise. Most of these >Neville individuals are not new, but, for anyone interested, I deduce that >copies of these wills can be obtained from microfilms on repository at the >Library of Virginia, 800 East Broad Street, Richmond, VA. And there is much >more there... > > >NAME Nevill, Grace. >DATE 1706. [Will probated 24 Sept. >1706] >SOURCE Deeds, Orders, Wills, etc., 13, 1706-1710 (Reel 6) > p. 6. Will pro. 24 Sept. 1706. > p. 9. Exors. bond rec. 24 Sept. 1706. >NOTE Part of index to York County Wills and Administrations >(1633-1811) >PLACE York County (Va.) >FORM Wills. aat. >COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. > > >NAME Nevel [Neivel], John. >DATE 1730. [Will probated 27 July >1730] >SOURCE Will Book, Vol. 3, 1726-1734 (Reel 23) > p. 213-214. Will pro. 27 July 1730 >NOTE Part of index to Isle of Wight County Wills and >Administrations (1628-1800) >PLACE Isle of Wight County (Va.) >FORM Wills. aat. >ADDED ENTRY Neivel, John. >COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. > > >NAME Neavile [Nevell] [Nevill] [Neavill], John. >DATE 1740. [Will probated 23 Feb. >1740] >SOURCE Wills and Accounts, Vol. 4, 1733-1745 (Reel 24) > p. 320-322. Inv. & Appr. rec. 23 Mar. 1740 > p. 542-546. Accounts rec. 26 Aug. 1745 > p. 317-318. Will pro. 23 Feb. 1740 >NOTE Part of index to Isle of Wight County Wills and >Administrations (1628-1800) >PLACE Isle of Wight County (Va.) >FORM Wills. aat. >ADDED ENTRY Nevell, John. >ADDED ENTRY Nevill, John. >ADDED ENTRY Neavill, John. >COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. > > >NAME Neavill, Elizabeth. >DATE 1747. [Will probated 8 Oct. >1747] >SOURCE Wills and Accounts, Vol. 5, 1745-1752 (Reel 24) > p. 79-81. Will pro. 8 Oct. 1747 > p. 87. Inv. rec. 12. Nov. 1747 >NOTE Part of index to Isle of Wight County Wills and >Administrations (1628-1800) >PLACE Isle of Wight County (Va.) >FORM Wills. aat. >COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. > > >NAME Nevil, James. >DATE 1752. [Will probated 9 >November 1752] > Will dated [?] March 1752 Will proved 9 November 1752 St. >Ann's Parish >NOTE Part of index to wills not listed in Virginia Wills and >Administrations, 1632-1800 > (Torrence). >COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. > > >NAME Nevel, James. >DATE 1785. [Will probated 7 Feb. >1785] >SOURCE Will Book No. 2, 1780-1786 (Reel 16) > p. 215-216. Exors. bond rec. 7 Feb. 1785. > p. 224-226. Inv. & Appr. rec. 2 May 1785. > p. 211-215. Will pro. 7 Feb. 1785. >NOTE Part of index to Amherst County Wills and Administrations >(1761 - 1800) >PLACE Amherst County (Va.) >FORM Wills. aat. >COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. > > >If you've read this far, the strangest one of them all comes from a >different section of the Electronic Library (Unlike the ones above, these >files are only viewable as G4 TIFF picture >files, and I am reminded of the prohibition against sending attachments to >the list) This is, then, my rendering: > >SUBJECT VIGINIA COLONIAL RECORDS PROJECT >DOCUMENT 04778 >SURVEY REP'T 5009 >DEPOSITORY Principal Probate Registry >CLASS Will - Register Books 247 PYNE >TITLE Will of John Nevell >DATES 1697 >REFERENCES Probate Act Book 1697, 205. >EXAMINED 9 May 1961 >EXPOSURES 1 >This entry is on the fourth folio, verso, of 247 PYNE. >Will of John Nevell, bound on a voyage to the Straits. >To his wife and two daughters his whole estate: one third to his wife Mary >Nevell, one third to his daughter Mary Nevell, and one third to his daughter >Elizabeth Nevell, paying £50 apiece to his sisters Elizabeth Nevell and >Martha Carpender. (thus the text; the relation of the bequests is not >clarified.) >Signed 2 November 1696. Witness Jno Sabbartory, Stephen Thexer, Hannah >Finnch. >Probate 2 November 1697 to Mary Nevell, relict of Vice Admiral John Nevell, >late of the parish of St Margaret, Westminster, Co. Mdx., but deceased in >Virginia. - "buried St. Johns church Hampton VA." > > >Granted, it would appear that this John had no sons. But the whole entry >intrigues me. >1/ I am looking for a "Sir Thomas Neville" on the eastern seaboard about >this time and > here we have John, a Vice-Admiral. >2/ For about an hour I thought we had a Virginia - Maryland connection >(which many of > you are looking for). After all, St Margarets, Westminster IS in >Maryland (and for > those who don't believe me, the hamlet of Westminster, MD, was renamed >or superceded, > at least, by the village of Cape St. Claire). To the best of my cursory >research > this MD county was always Anne Arundel (across the bay from West >Chester!) but NOT > Middlesex Co. so I am forced to suppose that we are talking about St >Margaret's, > the church parish associated (still today) with Westminster Abbey in >West London, > England (now Greater London but then Middlesex County). > >Since this is my first post to this list (although I have read all of yours >back through >1997) I'm another part of Paddy Chitty's Ontario puzzle. Where she's >looking for the >ancestors of Moses, I'm looking for the ancestors of James & Eve. Her >search has taken >her to Cecil Co. MD and New Rochelle NY, mine to the Nansemond VA > >Halifax/Orange Co. NC >Nevilles (We're probably NOT connected, although our ancestral cousins only >lived a few >farms apart up here...). > >Paul Bingle >Brampton, Ontario, CANADA >E-mail: [email protected] > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Please do NOT send attachments to the list. > >

Milton and Daris, The James Nevil, b. 1796, who is in the family tree Thomas and Elizabeth Tiller Nevil, which Daris shared, shows him married to Sally Schrader 22 May 1818. I have a microfilm copy of the Amherst Co., VA Marriage records which show the marriage as follows: 1818 May 22 James Nevils, husband; Sally Shrader, wife; George Shrader, security & witness. There is one problem with James Nevil who m. Sally Shrader. He seems to be listed in two different families. In Ivan B. Nevill, Sr.'s book, Genealogy of the Nevill Family, he is also shown as James Nevil (no birth or death date), the son of Col. James Nevil who was born 1728 and died 12-20-1784 in Amherst Co., VA. Col. James Nevil does name a son James in his will, which is in the Nevill book. Ivan Nevill shows the source for the will as Amherst Co. Will Book 2, 1780-1786; he also shows the will was presented to court Feb. 7, 1785. I am trying to learn what happened to the James named in the will of 1784 and the James who was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Tiller Nevil, who also lived in Amherst Co.. It looks like two James Nevils could have been in Amherst Co. about the same time. How did you learn that Thomas had a son James? Jan == Husband: James NEVIL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Birth: 1796 Death: Burial: Marriage: 22 May 1818 Father: Thomas C. NEVIL (b 1764) Mother: Elizabeth TILLER ============================================================ ============== Wife: Sally SHRADER At 01:44 AM 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote: >Not all of Thomas line left TN and went to TX. James and family stayed. >These burials are in the Old Baker Cemetery, now the Bradford Cemetery, in >Bradford right down the road from Skullbone. > >NEVIL Suzanne wife of James 3-27-1834 5-4-1854 >NEVIL M.A. wife of J.M. 1-6-1849 2-4-1892 >NEVIL James Madison 12-16-1838 11-28-1912 > >There are several more all descendants of James. > >Milton > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >You may contact the Neville list manager at: >mailto:[email protected] > >

Daris, I believe they both were, but it is just from the inscriptions on the stones. I don't have any other documentation. Milton ---------- > From: Daris A Nevil <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Re: Nevils that stayed in TN > Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 5:22 PM > > Milton, > > Are Suzanne and M.A. both wives of James Madison NEVIL? I also show that James > Madison was married to Luzania MOUNT. This info came from Clint NEVIL of > Oklahoma, who is decended from James and Luzania. > > Daris > > > Milton Webb wrote: > > > Not all of Thomas line left TN and went to TX. James and family stayed. > > These burials are in the Old Baker Cemetery, now the Bradford Cemetery, in > > Bradford right down the road from Skullbone. > > > > NEVIL Suzanne wife of James 3-27-1834 5-4-1854 > > NEVIL M.A. wife of J.M. 1-6-1849 2-4-1892 > > NEVIL James Madison 12-16-1838 11-28-1912 > > > > There are several more all descendants of James. > > > > Milton > > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > You may contact the Neville list manager at: > mailto:[email protected] >

Hello Alice and Jerry... According to my kinship calculator then we're cousins... My line of Braggs descended from Anne Neville (John Mauzy's and Lucy's sister) who married Thomas Blakemore. They had (among others) a dau named Lucy Neville Blakemore who married Thomas Bragg. Lucy Neville Blakemore and Thomas Bragg had a son John Blakemore Bragg. John Blakemore Bragg married Lucinda Crump and had a son named Thomas Churchill (or Churchville) Bragg who fought in the Northern army in the Civil War. Thomas is buried in Ava (Douglas County), MO. Thomas C. Bragg married Elizabeth Amy L. Carter and had a son Daniel Bragg. Daniel Bragg had a son named William who had (among others) twin sons named James and John. John Bragg (b. March 6, 1901, Douglas Cty, MO) was my grandfather. The family moved to Nodaway County (northwest MO) before WWI and that's where my father Robert Bragg was born. (William and his oldest son moved on to California during the dustbowl years of the depression and never returned) That's the long and short of it. Alice -- any verification of this in anything you have seen? At 11:51 PM 2/23/99 -0600, Walter J Bell wrote: > > >> >>LUCY was the dau of CAPT GEORGE NEVILLE and his second wife MARY >>GIBBS. She >>(LUCY, that is) was a sister of ANN NEVILLE who married THOMAS >>BLAKEMORE. >> >>And Lucy had a brother, John Mauzy Blakemore who married Letitia Amelia >Buck and they had (among others) twin sons who are pictured in the >Blakemore book in their Confederate uniforms, Marcus Newton Blakemore and >Richard Mauzy Blakemore. Marcus Newton Blakemore married Angela Sanford >Warner - I have their marriage bible - and they are the parents of my >grandmother, Letitia Warner Blakemore wh married William Fouchee Latham >and are the parents of my father, Fred Blakemore Latham. > >We do get up to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area as my husband also has family >in that area. Next time, if feasible, I'd be happy to come traveling >with my bible and show it to you. I've taken it to Culpepper where it >was coveted but it returned home with me. Oh, in it I have an original >photograph taken the same as the one in the Blakemore book. > >Adios, ahora. > Cousin Alice > >PS One day soon, I'd love to go over the data I have on what I think your >line is down from Lucy. I may need some correction. The Blakemore book >is not totally accurate. It had my grandmother dying 60 years early. A >typo most likely, but wrong for those NOT in the know. > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried the Neville Query List on GenForum? >http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/neville > > >

Milton, Are Suzanne and M.A. both wives of James Madison NEVIL? I also show that James Madison was married to Luzania MOUNT. This info came from Clint NEVIL of Oklahoma, who is decended from James and Luzania. Daris Milton Webb wrote: > Not all of Thomas line left TN and went to TX. James and family stayed. > These burials are in the Old Baker Cemetery, now the Bradford Cemetery, in > Bradford right down the road from Skullbone. > > NEVIL Suzanne wife of James 3-27-1834 5-4-1854 > NEVIL M.A. wife of J.M. 1-6-1849 2-4-1892 > NEVIL James Madison 12-16-1838 11-28-1912 > > There are several more all descendants of James. > > Milton

A few weeks back I remember reading about a website <http://leo.vsla.edu> which had frustrated the efforts of one of the listmembers. My brouser IS Java enabled so I tried myself and got a pleasant surprise. Most of these Neville individuals are not new, but, for anyone interested, I deduce that copies of these wills can be obtained from microfilms on repository at the Library of Virginia, 800 East Broad Street, Richmond, VA. And there is much more there... NAME Nevill, Grace. DATE 1706. [Will probated 24 Sept. 1706] SOURCE Deeds, Orders, Wills, etc., 13, 1706-1710 (Reel 6) p. 6. Will pro. 24 Sept. 1706. p. 9. Exors. bond rec. 24 Sept. 1706. NOTE Part of index to York County Wills and Administrations (1633-1811) PLACE York County (Va.) FORM Wills. aat. COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. NAME Nevel [Neivel], John. DATE 1730. [Will probated 27 July 1730] SOURCE Will Book, Vol. 3, 1726-1734 (Reel 23) p. 213-214. Will pro. 27 July 1730 NOTE Part of index to Isle of Wight County Wills and Administrations (1628-1800) PLACE Isle of Wight County (Va.) FORM Wills. aat. ADDED ENTRY Neivel, John. COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. NAME Neavile [Nevell] [Nevill] [Neavill], John. DATE 1740. [Will probated 23 Feb. 1740] SOURCE Wills and Accounts, Vol. 4, 1733-1745 (Reel 24) p. 320-322. Inv. & Appr. rec. 23 Mar. 1740 p. 542-546. Accounts rec. 26 Aug. 1745 p. 317-318. Will pro. 23 Feb. 1740 NOTE Part of index to Isle of Wight County Wills and Administrations (1628-1800) PLACE Isle of Wight County (Va.) FORM Wills. aat. ADDED ENTRY Nevell, John. ADDED ENTRY Nevill, John. ADDED ENTRY Neavill, John. COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. NAME Neavill, Elizabeth. DATE 1747. [Will probated 8 Oct. 1747] SOURCE Wills and Accounts, Vol. 5, 1745-1752 (Reel 24) p. 79-81. Will pro. 8 Oct. 1747 p. 87. Inv. rec. 12. Nov. 1747 NOTE Part of index to Isle of Wight County Wills and Administrations (1628-1800) PLACE Isle of Wight County (Va.) FORM Wills. aat. COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. NAME Nevil, James. DATE 1752. [Will probated 9 November 1752] Will dated [?] March 1752 Will proved 9 November 1752 St. Ann's Parish NOTE Part of index to wills not listed in Virginia Wills and Administrations, 1632-1800 (Torrence). COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. NAME Nevel, James. DATE 1785. [Will probated 7 Feb. 1785] SOURCE Will Book No. 2, 1780-1786 (Reel 16) p. 215-216. Exors. bond rec. 7 Feb. 1785. p. 224-226. Inv. & Appr. rec. 2 May 1785. p. 211-215. Will pro. 7 Feb. 1785. NOTE Part of index to Amherst County Wills and Administrations (1761 - 1800) PLACE Amherst County (Va.) FORM Wills. aat. COLLECTION Virginia wills and administrations. If you've read this far, the strangest one of them all comes from a different section of the Electronic Library (Unlike the ones above, these files are only viewable as G4 TIFF picture files, and I am reminded of the prohibition against sending attachments to the list) This is, then, my rendering: SUBJECT VIGINIA COLONIAL RECORDS PROJECT DOCUMENT 04778 SURVEY REP'T 5009 DEPOSITORY Principal Probate Registry CLASS Will - Register Books 247 PYNE TITLE Will of John Nevell DATES 1697 REFERENCES Probate Act Book 1697, 205. EXAMINED 9 May 1961 EXPOSURES 1 This entry is on the fourth folio, verso, of 247 PYNE. Will of John Nevell, bound on a voyage to the Straits. To his wife and two daughters his whole estate: one third to his wife Mary Nevell, one third to his daughter Mary Nevell, and one third to his daughter Elizabeth Nevell, paying £50 apiece to his sisters Elizabeth Nevell and Martha Carpender. (thus the text; the relation of the bequests is not clarified.) Signed 2 November 1696. Witness Jno Sabbartory, Stephen Thexer, Hannah Finnch. Probate 2 November 1697 to Mary Nevell, relict of Vice Admiral John Nevell, late of the parish of St Margaret, Westminster, Co. Mdx., but deceased in Virginia. - "buried St. Johns church Hampton VA." Granted, it would appear that this John had no sons. But the whole entry intrigues me. 1/ I am looking for a "Sir Thomas Neville" on the eastern seaboard about this time and here we have John, a Vice-Admiral. 2/ For about an hour I thought we had a Virginia - Maryland connection (which many of you are looking for). After all, St Margarets, Westminster IS in Maryland (and for those who don't believe me, the hamlet of Westminster, MD, was renamed or superceded, at least, by the village of Cape St. Claire). To the best of my cursory research this MD county was always Anne Arundel (across the bay from West Chester!) but NOT Middlesex Co. so I am forced to suppose that we are talking about St Margaret's, the church parish associated (still today) with Westminster Abbey in West London, England (now Greater London but then Middlesex County). Since this is my first post to this list (although I have read all of yours back through 1997) I'm another part of Paddy Chitty's Ontario puzzle. Where she's looking for the ancestors of Moses, I'm looking for the ancestors of James & Eve. Her search has taken her to Cecil Co. MD and New Rochelle NY, mine to the Nansemond VA > Halifax/Orange Co. NC Nevilles (We're probably NOT connected, although our ancestral cousins only lived a few farms apart up here...). Paul Bingle Brampton, Ontario, CANADA E-mail: [email protected]

[email protected] wrote: > LUCY NEVILLE had natural seven sisters and one stepsister, MARY, daughter of > her father's first marriage to ANN (HANNAH) BURROUGHS. > > I realized my error as soon my message was dispatched. Sorry for the > confusion. > > Jerry > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Neville Heritage Society Home Page: > http://www.prairienet.org/neville/ George Neavill (Neville) married Hannah Symes b.1695 d. 31 Dec. 1728. Not Hannah Burrougs - she was married to another Neville. The above is from parish records - Middlesex , Va. This book is at Clayton Lib., Houston. I believe one can find the name of H. Symes parents in it, which I failed to do.

LUCY NEVILLE had natural seven sisters and one stepsister, MARY, daughter of her father's first marriage to ANN (HANNAH) BURROUGHS. I realized my error as soon my message was dispatched. Sorry for the confusion. Jerry

Alice: Just re-read your 2/24/99 12:07:50 AM message re JOHN MAUZEY BLAKEMORE. If I understand what you wrote, you were suggesting that JOHN MAUZEY BLAKEMORE was brother of LUCY NEVILLE and, thus, also of her eight sisters. I don't believe this is correct. Nothing I have found suggests a son was born to CAPT GEORGE NEVILLE and MARY GIBBS. GEORGE NEAVILL's (sic) will dated 26 Feb 1774, proved in Fauquier County court 27 Jun 1774, lists nine daughters (MARY, LUCY, MILDRED, SUSAN, ELIZABETH, LETITIA, ANN, JUDITH and JOANNA). There is no mention of a son; although several sons in law are mentioned Here's where the confusion arises, I think. CAPT GEORGE BLAKEMORE, son of Capt. THOMAS BLAKEMORE and ANN NEVILLE, m. 26 May 1783, ELIZABETH MAUZEY, b. abt 1756, d. abt 1824. They had seven children (according to my records). Their first born was LUCY NEVILLE BLAKEMORE, b. 5 May 1784, m. 5 Apr 1802, WILLIAM RICHARDSON BUCK, and their 6th child, was JOHN MAUZEY BLAKEMORE, b. 4 Jun 1798, d. 29 Jul 1853, m. 10 Aug 1820, LETITIA AMELIA BUCK. Thus, LUCY NEVILLE BLAKEMORE and JOHN MAUZEY BLAKEMORE, were brother and sister. Does this make sense to you? Cheers! Jerry Dalton

Hi Alice: I would love to see your Bible whenever you're in the area and when it's convenient. With regard to Blakemore, I have found plenty of mistakes in his work. On the other hand, he did a hell of a job gathering data and much of it is -- to my knowledge, at least -- accurate. Last year I spent a lot of time trying to track down a copy of the book. Finally talked to the publishing house in Richmond who bought the printing firm that printed the book. It was published privately -- probably just distribution to family members -- and the publishing house had no copies. I have sent inquiries to several living Blakemore descendants to see if they might have an extra or unwanted copy. Also have requests out to a number of rare/used book sellers. So far nothing. I have a fairly complete list of Lucy Neville and Wm. Waller Calmes descendants, I continue working on uncovering descendants of Lucy's sisters and their families. Have lots of info and names, undoubtedly lacking lots, too. We live in what is known as far North Dallas, several blocks east of Preston Road and about 3½ miles north of I-635 (LBJ Freeway). We are about 1½ mile from the Prestonwood Town Center mall which is slowly being demolished. If you will me when you're in town, I can meet you wherever you may be. Cheers and best wishes, Jerry