Thanks, Milton, for the reply. When I have time, I am going to go back and look at this fellow again. I had never noticed the discrepancy between the two Amherst Co., VA Nevil groups, with both showing Sally Shrader as the wife of their respective Jameses, until last week. Jan At 01:19 AM 3/4/99 -0800, you wrote: >Jan, >I have a James in Gibson Co., James Madison NEVIL, this James was born in >1838 and would have been a son of Reuben SR. I do not have any info on >whether the James that signed the documents ever came to Gibson Co. >Milton >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Volunteer of "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" >at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnstewar/genkin.htm > >---------- >> From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Nevils that stayed in TN >> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:32 PM >> >> Milton and Daris, >> >> Thank you for the information about James. I went back through the >Amherst >> Co. deed book and the microfilm copies I have of Amherst records but >can't >> find anything that would indicate which James Nevil married Sally >Shrader, >> yours or the one in the Capt. James Nevil line (the line we haven't been >> able to connect with your Thomas. Maybe the probate records in Amherst >Co. >> or the Nelson Co, VA records will show something. >> >> Did James, the son of Thomas, go to Gibson Co., TN? >> >> Jan >> >> At 11:09 AM 2/26/99 -0800, you wrote: >> >Jan, >> >I have two documents with James NEVIL's signature. Both concern the >coming >> >marriage of Polly NEVIL and Wm WHITEHEAD. The first is a marriage bond >of 6 >> >July, 1819 that Wm C Whitehead and Reuben J. NEVIL entered, it is signed >by >> >Wm C WHITEHEAD and James NEVIL. The second is a document asking the >clerk >> >of Amherst Co. to let Mr. William C Whitehead have a license to marry >Polly >> >NEVIL and is signed by Thomas NEVIL (the C signature), Reuben J NEVIL >and >> >James NEVIL dated 6 July 1819. >> >Milton >> > >> >---------- >> >> From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Nevils that stayed in TN >> >> Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:01 PM >> >> >> >> Milton and Daris, >> >> >> >> The James Nevil, b. 1796, who is in the family tree Thomas and >Elizabeth >> >> Tiller Nevil, which Daris shared, shows him married to Sally Schrader >22 >> >May >> >> 1818. I have a microfilm copy of the Amherst Co., VA Marriage records >> >which >> >> show the marriage as follows: 1818 May 22 James Nevils, husband; Sally >> >> Shrader, wife; George Shrader, security & witness. >> >> >> >> There is one problem with James Nevil who m. Sally Shrader. He seems >to >> >be >> >> listed in two different families. In Ivan B. Nevill, Sr.'s book, >> >Genealogy >> >> of the Nevill Family, he is also shown as James Nevil (no birth or >death >> >> date), the son of Col. James Nevil who was born 1728 and died >12-20-1784 >> >in >> >> Amherst Co., VA. Col. James Nevil does name a son James in his will, >> >which >> >> is in the Nevill book. Ivan Nevill shows the source for the will as >> >Amherst >> >> Co. Will Book 2, 1780-1786; he also shows the will was presented to >court >> >> Feb. 7, 1785. I am trying to learn what happened to the James named in >> >the >> >> will of 1784 and the James who was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth >Tiller >> >> Nevil, who also lived in Amherst Co.. It looks like two James Nevils >> >could >> >> have been in Amherst Co. about the same time. How did you learn that >> >Thomas >> >> had a son James? >> >> >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> >> >> == >> >> Husband: James NEVIL >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >> > >> >> -------------- >> >> Birth: 1796 >> >> Death: >> >> Burial: >> >> Marriage: 22 May 1818 >> >> Father: Thomas C. NEVIL (b 1764) >> >> Mother: Elizabeth TILLER >> >> >> >>============================================================ >= >> > >> >> ============== >> >> Wife: Sally SHRADER >> >> >> >> >> >> At 01:44 AM 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote: >> >> >Not all of Thomas line left TN and went to TX. James and family >stayed. >> >> >These burials are in the Old Baker Cemetery, now the Bradford >Cemetery, >> >in >> >> >Bradford right down the road from Skullbone. >> >> > >> >> >NEVIL Suzanne wife of James 3-27-1834 5-4-1854 >> >> >NEVIL M.A. wife of J.M. 1-6-1849 2-4-1892 >> >> >NEVIL James Madison 12-16-1838 11-28-1912 >> >> > >> >> >There are several more all descendants of James. >> >> > >> >> >Milton >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >> >> >You may contact the Neville list manager at: >> >> >mailto:[email protected] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >> >> Have you tried GenConnect? >> >> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html >> >> >> > >> > >> >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >> >Have you tried GenConnect? >> >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Neville Heritage Society Home Page: >> http://www.prairienet.org/neville/ >> > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried GenConnect? >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > >

Daris, Milton, Jan etc., I suspect some of this is a repeat, but I will post it in the hopes it helps someone. The Amherst Co., VA Marriage Register 1763-1852 has: 22 May 1818 Nevils, James & Sally Shrader, George Shrader sec. & wit. [I don't have a page number in my notes; I used microfilm at VSL. I did make a note in 1985 that the register was not indexed & that I needed to look at it again.] I do not know George Shrader's relationship. There is a George Shrader on the 1820 VA census index as on page 35A of Amherst Co. I have two sources for Rutherford cemetery records, that differ somewhat. Stones River Chapter SAR & Rutherford Co Hist Soc, Rutherford Co, TN Cemeteries, Vol. 1, Northwest Third of County (1985 or 1975?) p132 Ward Cemetery on Walter Hill Quadrangle Sarah S Nevill, mother of Sarah A Ward, d 21 Feb 1882 Sarah Ann Agnes Nevil Ward, wf of Best Ward, 6 Nov 1820-June 1910 Rutherford Co Hist Soc, Publication No 8, Winter 1977 p62 Ward Cemetery, edge of Florence [Most people buried here were members of Bethel Church] 1. Sara Ann Agnes Shreader Neville 2. Best Ward d ae 24 3. Mrs Jarrell, dau of Sarah Ann Agnes Nevill 4. Letitia Neville, d as a young lady 10. Sara Ann Agnes Nevile Ward, b 1819, d ae 91 NOTE that Sarah Ward's birth would be consistent with an 1818 Amherst Co VA marriage of James Nevill & Sarah Shrader, The Colonial Hardy Murfree Chapter DAR, Rutherford Co TN Marriage Records 1804-1850 p22 Cain, George & Elizabeth Nevils, 18 Dec 1829 p23 Parker, Phillip & Anne Nevil, 19 Nov 1829 p36 Ward, Best & Sarah Ann Nevil, 25 Sept 1838 p53 Jarrell, Edmond T & Emeline E Nevill, 9 Jly 1844 Porch, Deane, 1850 Census of Rutherford Co, TN (1967) p20 9 Sept 223 Thomas G Nevil, 44, m, farming, VA Elizabeth, 29, f, VA Mary A, 9, f TN, sch Caroline, 6, f, TN, sch Elizabeth, 3, f, TN Catharine, 10/12, f, TN William H Hagar, 31, m, blacksmith, VA Elizabeth Hagar, 57, f, VA p36 263 George I Cain, 50, m, farming, VA Elizabeth, 46, f, VA, can't r/w ... Reubin J, 10, m, TN p52 378 Best Ward, 42, m, farmer, 3000, NC Sarah A A. 30, f, VA Jas, 10, m, TN, sch ... Emeline E, 2 f, TN p59 424 Jno Nevil, 31, m, carpenter, TN Mary A, 25, f, TN Jas, 2, m, TN infant, 3/12, f, TN Saml Hope, 18, m, carpetner, TN Richard, 24, m, carpenter, TN 425 SARAH A NEVIL, 50, f, VA Emeline E Jarrell, 28, f, VA Mary E, 4, f, TN Sarah E, 2, f, TN George A, 7/12, f[sic], TN Note that Sarah A Nevil was born ca 1800 in VA and Sarah A A Ward was born ca 1820 in VA. So, if this was the Sarah Shrader who m James Nevil gives some idea of her age at least. John Nevil who lived next door was born ca 1829 in TN. Davidson Co TN marriages show a license but not return of John J Nevels to Mary Ann Hope 13 Apr 1848. WPA, Tennessee Records of Rutherford County Wills, Settlements & Inventories, Vol. 8, 1830-1832 (1938) p141 Inventory of the estate of James Nevils deceased, sold by Walter Keeble administrator etc. on the 28th of Nov. 1830 - The purchasers included Reuben Nevils, Mrs. Nevil (widow), Thomas Nevil Note that the first name of the widow is not mentioned. The 1840 census of Rutherford Co, TN does have a female Sarah however who appears to be a widow. SARAH NEVIL, 0 males, 1 f 15-20, 1 f 40-50 Anyway, for those trying to sort these families out, several different TN counties need to be examined. Shirley Wilcox ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Jan, I have a James in Gibson Co., James Madison NEVIL, this James was born in 1838 and would have been a son of Reuben SR. I do not have any info on whether the James that signed the documents ever came to Gibson Co. Milton ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Volunteer of "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnstewar/genkin.htm ---------- > From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Nevils that stayed in TN > Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 10:32 PM > > Milton and Daris, > > Thank you for the information about James. I went back through the Amherst > Co. deed book and the microfilm copies I have of Amherst records but can't > find anything that would indicate which James Nevil married Sally Shrader, > yours or the one in the Capt. James Nevil line (the line we haven't been > able to connect with your Thomas. Maybe the probate records in Amherst Co. > or the Nelson Co, VA records will show something. > > Did James, the son of Thomas, go to Gibson Co., TN? > > Jan > > At 11:09 AM 2/26/99 -0800, you wrote: > >Jan, > >I have two documents with James NEVIL's signature. Both concern the coming > >marriage of Polly NEVIL and Wm WHITEHEAD. The first is a marriage bond of 6 > >July, 1819 that Wm C Whitehead and Reuben J. NEVIL entered, it is signed by > >Wm C WHITEHEAD and James NEVIL. The second is a document asking the clerk > >of Amherst Co. to let Mr. William C Whitehead have a license to marry Polly > >NEVIL and is signed by Thomas NEVIL (the C signature), Reuben J NEVIL and > >James NEVIL dated 6 July 1819. > >Milton > > > >---------- > >> From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Nevils that stayed in TN > >> Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:01 PM > >> > >> Milton and Daris, > >> > >> The James Nevil, b. 1796, who is in the family tree Thomas and Elizabeth > >> Tiller Nevil, which Daris shared, shows him married to Sally Schrader 22 > >May > >> 1818. I have a microfilm copy of the Amherst Co., VA Marriage records > >which > >> show the marriage as follows: 1818 May 22 James Nevils, husband; Sally > >> Shrader, wife; George Shrader, security & witness. > >> > >> There is one problem with James Nevil who m. Sally Shrader. He seems to > >be > >> listed in two different families. In Ivan B. Nevill, Sr.'s book, > >Genealogy > >> of the Nevill Family, he is also shown as James Nevil (no birth or death > >> date), the son of Col. James Nevil who was born 1728 and died 12-20-1784 > >in > >> Amherst Co., VA. Col. James Nevil does name a son James in his will, > >which > >> is in the Nevill book. Ivan Nevill shows the source for the will as > >Amherst > >> Co. Will Book 2, 1780-1786; he also shows the will was presented to court > >> Feb. 7, 1785. I am trying to learn what happened to the James named in > >the > >> will of 1784 and the James who was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Tiller > >> Nevil, who also lived in Amherst Co.. It looks like two James Nevils > >could > >> have been in Amherst Co. about the same time. How did you learn that > >Thomas > >> had a son James? > >> > >> Jan > >> > >> > >> == > >> Husband: James NEVIL > >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > > >> -------------- > >> Birth: 1796 > >> Death: > >> Burial: > >> Marriage: 22 May 1818 > >> Father: Thomas C. NEVIL (b 1764) > >> Mother: Elizabeth TILLER > >> > >============================================================ = > > > >> ============== > >> Wife: Sally SHRADER > >> > >> > >> At 01:44 AM 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote: > >> >Not all of Thomas line left TN and went to TX. James and family stayed. > >> >These burials are in the Old Baker Cemetery, now the Bradford Cemetery, > >in > >> >Bradford right down the road from Skullbone. > >> > > >> >NEVIL Suzanne wife of James 3-27-1834 5-4-1854 > >> >NEVIL M.A. wife of J.M. 1-6-1849 2-4-1892 > >> >NEVIL James Madison 12-16-1838 11-28-1912 > >> > > >> >There are several more all descendants of James. > >> > > >> >Milton > >> > > >> > > >> >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > >> >You may contact the Neville list manager at: > >> >mailto:[email protected] > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > >> Have you tried GenConnect? > >> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > >> > > > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > >Have you tried GenConnect? > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > > > > > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Neville Heritage Society Home Page: > http://www.prairienet.org/neville/ >

Paul, Thank you for your interesting reply to my questions about your group. I have read a little about the NC loyalists and know that some did go to the Natchez Territory (later Mississippi) and across the MS River to Louisiana, which were under Spanish rule during the Rev. I did not know about those loyalists who went to Canada. Do you find any Alstons, Dromgooles, or Mulkeys in the Canadian immigrants from North Carolina? Those families were in the NC area, and some of them seemed to have had mixed reactions to the rebellion. The names are found in the same area as Nevilles in NC and MS, and there is a family connection of the Altstons to the Dromgooles and in turn, to the Nevills/Nevels in Mississippi. The earliest reference to Nevills who lived in the area which ultimately became Halifax Co. and Orange Co., NC is to Benjamin Nevill. Although some genealogies show he is part of the Isle of Wight/Nansemond Co., VA Nevill group, that connection has not been definitely established (even though the histories show it). Clues do point to the connection, but more work needs to be done on that part of the line. I have some questions about the following quote from your post: >Worst case scenario, assuming William was just another "wannabe", I still >liked the James Neville, born 1849 Halifax Co NC (I have been using c1848 >for MY James for almost two years now for reasons too long to go into here, >but well before I read Jesse M Lawrence Jr's piece on 'William, the >Immigrant'), the one of whom Jesse Lawrence says "need to research this >James Neville". Was 1849 a typo? Should it be 1749? Do you have the date of Jesse's post? I looked for it and couldn't find it. I wonder how Jesse established the birthdate for James? Do you know Mark Neville, another of your line who has been a member of the Neville List? He lives in KY, the same state where I live. Jan4

Milton and Daris, Thank you for the information about James. I went back through the Amherst Co. deed book and the microfilm copies I have of Amherst records but can't find anything that would indicate which James Nevil married Sally Shrader, yours or the one in the Capt. James Nevil line (the line we haven't been able to connect with your Thomas. Maybe the probate records in Amherst Co. or the Nelson Co, VA records will show something. Did James, the son of Thomas, go to Gibson Co., TN? Jan At 11:09 AM 2/26/99 -0800, you wrote: >Jan, >I have two documents with James NEVIL's signature. Both concern the coming >marriage of Polly NEVIL and Wm WHITEHEAD. The first is a marriage bond of 6 >July, 1819 that Wm C Whitehead and Reuben J. NEVIL entered, it is signed by >Wm C WHITEHEAD and James NEVIL. The second is a document asking the clerk >of Amherst Co. to let Mr. William C Whitehead have a license to marry Polly >NEVIL and is signed by Thomas NEVIL (the C signature), Reuben J NEVIL and >James NEVIL dated 6 July 1819. >Milton > >---------- >> From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Nevils that stayed in TN >> Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:01 PM >> >> Milton and Daris, >> >> The James Nevil, b. 1796, who is in the family tree Thomas and Elizabeth >> Tiller Nevil, which Daris shared, shows him married to Sally Schrader 22 >May >> 1818. I have a microfilm copy of the Amherst Co., VA Marriage records >which >> show the marriage as follows: 1818 May 22 James Nevils, husband; Sally >> Shrader, wife; George Shrader, security & witness. >> >> There is one problem with James Nevil who m. Sally Shrader. He seems to >be >> listed in two different families. In Ivan B. Nevill, Sr.'s book, >Genealogy >> of the Nevill Family, he is also shown as James Nevil (no birth or death >> date), the son of Col. James Nevil who was born 1728 and died 12-20-1784 >in >> Amherst Co., VA. Col. James Nevil does name a son James in his will, >which >> is in the Nevill book. Ivan Nevill shows the source for the will as >Amherst >> Co. Will Book 2, 1780-1786; he also shows the will was presented to court >> Feb. 7, 1785. I am trying to learn what happened to the James named in >the >> will of 1784 and the James who was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Tiller >> Nevil, who also lived in Amherst Co.. It looks like two James Nevils >could >> have been in Amherst Co. about the same time. How did you learn that >Thomas >> had a son James? >> >> Jan >> >> >> == >> Husband: James NEVIL >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -------------- >> Birth: 1796 >> Death: >> Burial: >> Marriage: 22 May 1818 >> Father: Thomas C. NEVIL (b 1764) >> Mother: Elizabeth TILLER >> >============================================================ > >> ============== >> Wife: Sally SHRADER >> >> >> At 01:44 AM 2/22/99 -0800, you wrote: >> >Not all of Thomas line left TN and went to TX. James and family stayed. >> >These burials are in the Old Baker Cemetery, now the Bradford Cemetery, >in >> >Bradford right down the road from Skullbone. >> > >> >NEVIL Suzanne wife of James 3-27-1834 5-4-1854 >> >NEVIL M.A. wife of J.M. 1-6-1849 2-4-1892 >> >NEVIL James Madison 12-16-1838 11-28-1912 >> > >> >There are several more all descendants of James. >> > >> >Milton >> > >> > >> >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >> >You may contact the Neville list manager at: >> >mailto:[email protected] >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >> Have you tried GenConnect? >> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html >> > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried GenConnect? >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html > >

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 4:01 AM Subject: Neville >Grant Researchers: > >My Jan 1999 issue of Keyhole (Gen Soc of SW PA) list the following for >the May 2nd meeting. I will quote. > >"May 2 NEVILLE FAMILY & HOUSE - Mrs. Retta Campbell, Director of >Interpretation for the Neville House Associates, will give a lecture and >slide program of the Neville Family's 18th Century origins, their >connections with Geo. Washington, Lafayette, family involvement with >Revolutionary War, Whiskey Rebellion, etc. Neville House occupied by >descendants for 200 years." > >Sounds interesting - wish I could go. > >Here is the website for the society: www.cobweb.net.gssp. >I checked it when they first got it, but not recently. > >Mike >

Jan: You lured me out of the woodwork!! Not fair, I'm sick. Couple of comments from me. First, I'm not convinced that Solomon Nevill Sr. was named Solomon CORBIN Nevill. I have never seen his name this way in a primary source. I have not even seen a middle initial C. for him that I remember. I think the assumption has been made that he was Sr. and Solomon Corbin Nevill was Jr. I'm thinking that 1777 was too early for the common usage of middle names. Can any one shed any light on that? Jeanne Barton, what do you think? I think the Corbin name was added with Jr.'s generation. My gut feeling is that Drury A. Neville was a Drury Allen Neville. That's a favorite name among the early Allens. If he is a son of John Sims Neville, then I'd look for John's mystery wife to have an Allen connection since I do not know of any up the Neville-Walton-Sims line. Also Barbara "Heston" Neville's name was most likely Barbara Hester Neville, named after her maternal grandmother Barbara (Hester) Walton. That Heston clue led me astray since 1984. She married Needham B. Farrier. I have Annette Travis as Granderson (Grandison) Neville's THIRD wife. His first was Minerva Peterson who married as her second husband Meredith Howard. They had a long marriage and many children! Kathy

Hi everyone, Last year Bob Nevels of College Station, TX shared a NC Neville file he obtained from Jim Robertson, a descendant of one of the NC lines. I have not corresponded with Mr. Robertson and do not know how he obtained his data, but I thought I would pass along a couple of things in his file that might be worth checking out and verifying by those who have connections with Halifax Co./Orange Co. Nevilles. I noticed the chart shows an Albert Gallatino Neville, son of John Sims Neville (John b. 1801). John was one of the sons of Solomon Corbin Nevill (1777-1848) and Susanna Walton. I wonder if Albert Gallatino Neville could be the A. G. Nevill, age 27 on the 1850 Dallas Co. AR census, in the household of Drury A. Nevill, age 30. Both were from NC. Could he be the Albert G. Nevels referred to by Alice Lee in a post in which she gives family information about Albert G. Nevels (Nevill) who married Alice's great-aunt, Martha Jane Harvill, in Dallas Co., AR in 1852? Review of Alice's post below: >E-mails from Alice Lee 9/25/96, 10/24/96, and 6/7/97: >My great-aunt, Martha Jane Harvill married Albert G. Nevels (Nevill) in >Dallas Co., AR, June 15, 1852. She died; don't know about him. He should >be on a census with his family in 1850. Children William and Candis moved to >Ashley Co., AR with grandparents in 1867; at least, Candis did; not sure >about William. Candis's name is spelled many ways, including Navals. >Location might help your search. I haven't researched Nevels. >Our connection with the Nevels family is a rather distant one; my >great-grandfather's sister, Martha Jane Harvill, married Albert G. or J. Nevels >in Dallas County May 13, 1852. By 1860, she evidently was dead, since her two >children, Candice and William, were living with their grandparents. I have >not been able to find any record of their deaths, but they lived in the Tulip >township at some time... >Candice was still with my great-grandparents in Ashley Co. in 1870. I have found no >trace of her after that. No marriage record or anything, and no trace at all of >William. In a recent post, Shirley noted that a William Nevill was on the 1860 Dallas Co. census and suggested the possibility that he might be the son of A. G. Nevill found with Drury Nevill on the 1850 Dallas Co., AR census. I have not looked at the actual census, only the index, so I don't know Wm.'s age on the 1860 census. However, if A. G. Nevill is the Albert G. Nevill who m. Martha Jane Harvill in 1852 in Ashley Co., his son William would have been young in 1860. A look at the census, as Shirley suggested, would help determine Wm.'s age and the household where he resided. The index I have shows an asterisk by Wm.'s name. Although I did not copy the key, I think I remember that the asterisk indicates the person was living with a head of household who had a different surname (AR 1860 U.S. Census by Mrs. Warren Gill Bonner, Marianna, AR). Drury's will might also help clarify some relationships. Thank you, Shirley for the census information. Shirley L Wilcox wrote: > > A Drury A. Nevill left an 1879 will in Dallas Co., Arkansas (D:227). I > have not seen the will. However, note the following: > > 1850 Dallas Co., AR > p48/96 > 654 654 Drury A Nevill, 30, m, carpenter, 1350, NC > A G Nevill, 27, m, carpenter, NC > Walter Scott, 19, m, laborer, NC > > Note that A G Nevill is not shown with a wife. I would look for Drury > being a possible brother. > > There was a William Nevill on the 1860 Dallas Co., AR census, p983 > according to a census index & a Thomas Nevill p195 Ashley Co. Perhaps > William was Albert's son. Have you checked the census? The Thomas in > Ashley Co. may be the man born c1826 who m Mary Ann Jones 1852. > In looking at the Nevilles in and around Dallas Co., it may help to remember that Dallas Co., AR resident Elijah H. Green & Melissa Nevill were married in Halifax Co., NC on 16 Sep 1834; Thos. M. Pierce, bm. (Source: David B. Gammon & William L. Murphy, Jr. Marriage Records/Halifax County, North Carolina/1758-1872). They also lived in Tulip Township in Dallas Co., according to Linda P. Smith, who is researching Elijah and Melissa Nevill. Linda's husband's grandfather had a brother Elijah Nevil Green b. 12 Aug 1874. Below is what Jim Robertson's chart shows on the Orange Co., NC group of Solomon Corbin Neville (1777-1848) who married Susanna Walton. Their children: 1. Edward Walton Neville, b. 1798 2. Jesse Parks Neville, b. 1799 3. John Sims Neville, b. 1801 (my note - Jan: spouse not shown, but one child listed. I wonder if Drury Nevill on 1850 AR census could also be a child of John's?) (1) ALBERT GALLATINO NEVILLE 4. Barbara Heston Neville, b. 1803, m. ____ Farrier 5. Edwin Walton Neville, 1806 - 1891, m. (1) Rachel Higginbotham (my note - Jan: the family later lived near Fulton, KY - Hickman Co.) Their children: (1) Joseph Walton Neville, b. 1829 (2) Solomon L. Neville, b. 1832 (3) Benjamin Franklin Neville, b. 1834 (4) Mary Ann Neville, b. 1838 Edwin Walton Neville, 1806 - 1891, m. (2) Elizabeth Ann Peebles. Their children: (5) Henry Clay Neville, 1842 - 1845 (6) Maria Louisa Neville, b. 1844 (7) Betsy Ann Neville, b. 1846 - 1847 (8) George Peoples Neville (9) Infant Neville (1848 - 1848) (10) Laura Neville, b. 1850 (11) Margaret Isabella Neville, 1852 - 1893 6. Solomon Corbin Neville, Jr. 1808 - 1881, m. Francis Slaughter Bell Long (later lived in Montgomery Co., TN). Their children: (1) Nimrod Neville, 1830 - 1832 (2) Eugenia Neville, 1832 - 1871, m. James L. Alexander (3) Barbara Ann Neville, 1834 - 1908, m. John A. Miller (4) Indiana Neville, 1835 - 1836 (5) Rosella Neville, 1837 - 1838 (6) Martha Cash Neville, b. 1838 (7) Frances Neville, 1840 - 1842 (8) Adaline Neville, 1841 - 1851 (9) Richard Slaughter Neville, b. 1847 (10) Elizabeth Vaughn Neville, 1850 - 1877, m. B. B. Nesbit 7. Elizabeth Whitley Neville, b. 1809, m. Granderson Vaughn 8. Grandison Dandridge Neville, b. 1812 - 1878, m. Annette Travis (my note: Descendant Kathy Duncan shows this marriage as second one for Grandison and at least two more children.) (1) Josiah Hoskins Neville, 1847 - 1905 (2) Edwin Jarrett Neville, 1849 - 1943 9. Susanna Orange Neville, b. 1814 I have not worked on verifying the information on the above chart. It is meant to be used only as a guide for possible areas of research for identifying the Dallas Co. and Ashley Co., AR Nevill/Nevels groups. Jan

George, I think John & Virginia (Fore) Nevill moved to Meade Co. KY & that she was a widow prior to the 1850 census. KY Ancestors, Jan 1966, Vol 1 #3 p82 Nevill, John F, born Shelby Co, KY, son of John & Virginia Nevill; died Meade Co, 31 Mch 1853, age 24, married. Nevill, Emily B, b Meade Co, dau of John & Ann E Nevill; d Meade Co, 18 July 1853, age 1. Nevel, Mary T, b Hardin Co, dau of Samuel R & Hannah E Nevel; place of death not given, d 1 March 1856, age 3. 1840 Census Meade Co, KY p123 John Nevill, 1 m 5-10, 1 m 10-15, 2 m 20-30, 1 m 40-50, 1 f -5, 1 f 5-10, 1 f 15-20, 1 f 30-40, 1 f 40-50; 10 slaves 1850 Census Meade Co, KY p174 KY Dist 60 60 John B Watts, 56, m, farmer, 2000, KY Rebecca, 56, f, KY ... Sarah E Nevell, 3, f, KY ... p175 70 70 Virginia Nevill, 55, farming, VA, can't r/w Augustus, 18, m, farming, KY Amelia, 15, f, KY, sch Clarissa A, 12, f, KY, sch Sarah J, 10, f, KY, sch Laura V, 9, f, KY 1860 Census Meade Co, KY p498 PO Garnettsville 909 905 John B Watts, 66, m, farmer & Methodist Minister, 3216, 1190, KY Rebecca, 66, f, KY Robert N, 31, m, farmer, 800, 140, KY Henry Moore, 22, m, farm laborer, MO Sarah E Nevill, 12, f, KY, sch Wm Fay, 12, m, KY COMMENTS John H Nevill may have been the father of the John who m Virginia Fore. The son John could be the male 16-26 on the 1810 Shelby Co KY census. John H Nevill was on Shelby County's 1800 tax list. Meade Co, KY Marriages Amelia Nevill m Peter Peters, 25 Feb 1856 Clarissa Nevill m John M Peters, 3 Feb 1859 Joseph F Nevill m Jane M Watts 19 May 1846 Sarah E Nevell m Henry B Curry, 1 June 1869 Sarah Jane Nevill m Jerome Kennedy, 8 Dec 1858 Shirley Wilcox On Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:04:25 -0800 George Allison <[email protected]> writes: >Shirley, > >Thank you for posting your 1820 Shelby census data. I found my notes >for >1810, and they are almost as I remembered them: > >Oswald Nevill: 1 m -10, 1 m 26-45 2 f -10, 1 f 26-45 >John H. Nevil: 1 m 16-26, 1 m 45+ 1 f 45+ >William Nevill: 1 m -10, 1 m 10-16, 1 m 25-45 5 f -10, 2 f 25-45 > >Note that the children of Oswald match up perfectly with 10-16 aged >children of "Oswell" in 1820, and the ages appear consistent with >being >married about 1805. John in 1820 must be the one that married >Virginia >Fore in 1815. If he appears in the 1810 census, he must be the one in >the >John H. Nevil household. William Neville in 1820 matches up well with >my >William, except for the male, 10-16. There should be Presley(1811), >Mary >Ann(1812), Lydia(1813?), and perhaps a Joseph B(?). On the other >hand, the >William household of 1810 creates more questions than answers. I >would >like to find John Nevill and wife Virginia and/or George Frederick and >wife >Amelia (Nevill) in 1850 to see if they too were born in Pennsylvania. >Any >ideas where they might be found? They appear to be the Nevills most >comparable in age to my William from this clan. >------------------- >George Allison >Dixon, CA > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I received this from someone. If you have any answers, please respond to her email address: [email protected] wrote: > I know this sounds strange, but I am searching a Nevil Thomas,the Thomas name > was changed from Delongville way on back in time.There was a Dr.Neville > Thomas. > I know one of them was in Virginia for a time, and I find records of a Nevil > as being the last name with no info , with Thomas being the first name.Because > of records picking up first lst ,etc.I was wondering what specific lines do > the Nevils' have that you know of? > Its' a shot in the dark,but,this other lady researching Nevil has no info on > the last name, but can pick up a Thomas.I said there is always that > possibility. > Would you have any input on this?If so, let me know......I would appreciate > anthing you might have. > > Like I say, all we know is that the line of Nevil started with a Dr.Bernard > Thomas Delongville, and came down to a Nevile Jerome Thomas and some records > Ifind have Nevil listed as the last name instead ofThomas. > > Thanks, > Jeanne

Shirley, Thank you for posting your 1820 Shelby census data. I found my notes for 1810, and they are almost as I remembered them: Oswald Nevill: 1 m -10, 1 m 26-45 2 f -10, 1 f 26-45 John H. Nevil: 1 m 16-26, 1 m 45+ 1 f 45+ William Nevill: 1 m -10, 1 m 10-16, 1 m 25-45 5 f -10, 2 f 25-45 Note that the children of Oswald match up perfectly with 10-16 aged children of "Oswell" in 1820, and the ages appear consistent with being married about 1805. John in 1820 must be the one that married Virginia Fore in 1815. If he appears in the 1810 census, he must be the one in the John H. Nevil household. William Neville in 1820 matches up well with my William, except for the male, 10-16. There should be Presley(1811), Mary Ann(1812), Lydia(1813?), and perhaps a Joseph B(?). On the other hand, the William household of 1810 creates more questions than answers. I would like to find John Nevill and wife Virginia and/or George Frederick and wife Amelia (Nevill) in 1850 to see if they too were born in Pennsylvania. Any ideas where they might be found? They appear to be the Nevills most comparable in age to my William from this clan. ------------------- George Allison Dixon, CA

Has anyone come across an Oswald Neville in Maryland? There is a reference to a man of this name in the Maryland Genealogical Society Bulletin, date unknown. Oswald Nevil/Nevill/Neville appears to be a rare occurrence - none appearing in the social security death index. Only other occurrences I have found - Oswald Nevil/Nevill, Shelby County KY marriages and 1810 census, who may also appear in Everton Family Pedigrees. Does anyone have additional information on these (perhaps the one and only) Oswald(s) Nevil/Nevill/Neville? --------------- George Allison Dixon, CA

George, I had decided the William Neville on Shelby Co KY's 1820 census must be the one who was there in 1810, but I could be wrong. 1820 Census Shelby CO, KY p151 Oswell Neville, 1 m -10, 1 m 10-16, 2 f -10, 2 f 10-16, 1 f 26-45, 1 f 45+; 2 in agriculture, 1 slave John Nevill, 2 m -10, 1 m 26-45, 1 f 16-26; 1 in agriculture?, 2 slaves p161 William Neville, 2 m -10, 1 m 10-16, 1 m 26-45, 2 f -10, 1 f 26-45; 1 in agriculture, 2 slaves I have John H Nevile on the 1820 census of Gallatin Co, KY but my notes show no other Nevills there on that census. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Wayne, There was no mention of why they moved to Wisconsin. I think the lead mining in the area probably offered better wages than young men could find elsewhere. According to the bio, Francis Bonham was first in Grant Co. three years before I can place the William Neville family in Missouri. Five Bonham brothers as well as some of their adult children all obtained land in Grant County in 1839. I don't know that any of them moved there on a permanent basis before then. At 02:58 PM 2/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi George, > >You gave an intriguing excerpt of the History of Grant Co, WI, bio of >Francis H. Bonham: > >"... On Dec. 23, 1830, he was married by Rev. Mr. Watters in Pike Co., >Mo., >to Mary Ann, daughter of William and Lucy (Oglesby) Nevel of Shelby Co., >Ky., where she was born May 24, 1812; .." > >Did the bio give any indications why Francis Bonham and Mary Ann Nevel >settled in Grant Co, such as other relatives in the area? > >Reason I ask is that my line includes 2 brothers Alexander M. Neavill (b. >1811somewhere in KY) and John D. Neavill (b. 1807 somewhere in TN) who >settled in the Grant Co WI area, Both arrived in the Galena Jo Daviess Co >area of IL about 1827 and Alexander moved on to Potosi, Grant Co, WI about >1840. Still haven't found their parents, so your info on William and Lucy >was very interesting. By the1880 census, Alexander's parents were both >born in VA. > > >Wayne Olsen >Bonney Lake, WA > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried the Neville Query List on GenForum? >http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/neville > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Allison e-mail: [email protected] Registrar's Office, 124 Mrak Hall University of California, Davis voice: (530) 752-2618 Davis, CA 95616 fax: (530) 752-0329 --------------------------------------------------------------------------

Shirley, I looked at William Nevill in the 1810 Shelby Co. census and concluded that he was not my William, having 5 girls under 10 (a little much for newlyweds), and 2 women 25+ (Lucy should have been 20). I didn't bother to check 1820, but that was before I found the positive link to Shelby Co. Now I wish I had checked 1820 to see if it was the same household. I am looking at John H. Nevil as possibly the father my William Neville. He was the father of Amelia (m. George Frederick, 24-Dec.-1808). Perhaps he is also the father of Oswald (m. Susannah Wardfail). Amelia M. Nevill m. Edmund A. Truman (20-Mar.-1934), dau. of Susan, William H. Nevill bondsman. I assume this might be the William you mentioned, buried in the same cemetery as Susan. I don't have my 1810 census notes handy, but if I recall there were two boys under 10 in the Oswald household. These might be Henry, who you indicated Susan was living with in 1850, and William H. John H. Nevil in addition to himself had only one other male (16-25) in his household. This could account for one of the other Nevills married by 1821 in Shelby Co. (John, James, Thomas), leaving two unaccounted for. A second Oswald (m. Mrs. Charles Roger, 1806 or 1795?), not appearing in the census, could be the father of some of these. If my William is not the one in the census, then another father is needed for him as well. Of course, some of the Nevills married in Shelby Co. could be from another nearby county. I am intrigued by the middle name of Lydia Evans Nevill. I am researching my Bartlett line that leads back to Shelby Co. as well, with ties to Daviess Co., and Johnson and Owen Co.'s, Indiana. I have Bartlett/Evans marriages in Daviess Co. KY and Owen Co., IN. I assume there must be a connection to an Evans family somewhere along the path of this Neville line. Perhaps that is the maiden name of William's mother. At 10:44 AM 2/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >George, > >I was glad to see the info from the History of Grant Co WI which calls >Mary Ann Neville Bonham a daughter of William & Lucy Oglesby Neville. >Her birth of 24 May 1812, Shelby Co, KY is also helpful. Marion Keranen >said that Lydia Evans Neville (m Edward Trabue) was born 1 Jan 1813. If >they were both William's children, then one birth date may be wrong as >that makes two births only 7 months apart. > >I still can't place William on the 1810 and 1820 census. > >Shirley > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried the Neville Query List on GenForum? >http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/neville > >

Hi George, You gave an intriguing excerpt of the History of Grant Co, WI, bio of Francis H. Bonham: "... On Dec. 23, 1830, he was married by Rev. Mr. Watters in Pike Co., Mo., to Mary Ann, daughter of William and Lucy (Oglesby) Nevel of Shelby Co., Ky., where she was born May 24, 1812; .." Did the bio give any indications why Francis Bonham and Mary Ann Nevel settled in Grant Co, such as other relatives in the area? Reason I ask is that my line includes 2 brothers Alexander M. Neavill (b. 1811somewhere in KY) and John D. Neavill (b. 1807 somewhere in TN) who settled in the Grant Co WI area, Both arrived in the Galena Jo Daviess Co area of IL about 1827 and Alexander moved on to Potosi, Grant Co, WI about 1840. Still haven't found their parents, so your info on William and Lucy was very interesting. By the1880 census, Alexander's parents were both born in VA. Wayne Olsen Bonney Lake, WA

George, I was glad to see the info from the History of Grant Co WI which calls Mary Ann Neville Bonham a daughter of William & Lucy Oglesby Neville. Her birth of 24 May 1812, Shelby Co, KY is also helpful. Marion Keranen said that Lydia Evans Neville (m Edward Trabue) was born 1 Jan 1813. If they were both William's children, then one birth date may be wrong as that makes two births only 7 months apart. I still can't place William on the 1810 and 1820 census. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Following is what a search of "Neville" at NUCMC (http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc) turned up: Author: Neville, Joseph. Title: Letter, 1875. Author: Neville, Carlton. Title: Carlton Neville collection, 1975-1977. Author: Wrinch, Dorothy, 1894-1976. Title: Papers, 1919-1975. Author: Neville, A. C. (Arthur Courtenay) Title: Papers, 1837-1935. Author: Neville, Phoebe. Title: Cartouche. Published: [New York] : Dance Notation Bureau, 1984, c1983. Author: Bay Shore Street Railway Co. Title: Minutes, 1908-1910. Author: Neville, George. Title: Papers of George Neville [manuscript], 1834-1863. Author: Neville, Emily Cheney. Title: Traveler from a small kingdom : production material. Author: Neville, Emily Cheney. Title: The seventeenth-street gang : production material. Author: Neville, Emily Cheney. Title: It's like this, cat : production material. Author: Neville, Emily Cheney. Title: Fogarty : production materials. Author: Neville, Emily Cheney. Title: Berries Goodman : production material. Author: Neville, Emily Cheney. Title: Papers, 1963-1969, Author: Cook, Frederick Albert, 1865-1940. Title: Papers, 1881-1977 (bulk 1891-1940). Author: Kerr, George A. Title: Papers : of George A. Kerr, 1927-1936 [manuscript] Author: American Artists Group. Title: American Artists Group records, 1934-1965. Author: Neville, Henry, 1837-1910. Title: Letter to [?]. Boston, MA. 1891 Jan. 8. Title: Selection of Harvey A. Neville as president of Lehigh University collection, 1961. Author: Neville, Bert. Title: Alabama steamboats papers, 1952-1966. Author: Neville, Mark. Title: Letters, 1987-1989 : to Dan Sicoli. Author: Neville, Mark. Title: Letter, [1989] : to the editors. Author: Neville, Robert, 1905-1970. Title: Papers, 1925-1970. Author: Lindenhurst Historical Society (Lindenhurst, N.Y.) Title: Personal letter collection, 1792-1973. Author: Elliott, Jesse D. (Jesse Duncan), 1782-1845. Title: Papers, 1824-1839. Author: Neville, Edwin Lowe, 1884- Title: Letters, 1938-1939, to Lewis Mumford. Author: Lehigh University. Title: Letter, 1962, to Lewis Mumford. Author: Neville, Tam Lin. Title: Waking alone in winter, 5 a.m. : TMs, [1970-1979] Author: Neville, Tove. Title: Letter, 1966 May 2 : to [George Hitchcock] Author: Neville, Tam Lin. Title: Post card, 1980 July 18 : to Bonnie Johnson. Author: Neville, Tove. Title: Letter, 1964 Dec. 22 : to John Logan. Author: Johnson, Bonnie. Title: Post card, 1980 July 18 : to Tam Lin Neville. Author: New York (State). Bureau of Military Statistics. Title: Administrative correspondence files, 1859-1875 (bulk 1860-1866). Author: Roskolenko, Harry. Title: Papers, 1928-1981. Author: Gilbert, W. S. (William Schwenck), 1836-1911. Title: Letters, undated, to Henry Neville. Author: Ashcroft, Glenn B. Title: Glenn B. Ashcroft papers, 1851-1927. Author: Neville, Jill, 1932- Title: Letter, 1966 Oct. 26 : to Martin Seymour-Smith. Author: Neville, Richard, 1941- Title: Letters, 1966-1967 : to Martin Seymour-Smith. Author: Rickard, Greville, 1889 or 90-1956. Title: Greville Rickard papers, 1917-1956 (inclusive) Author: Lindbergh, Anne Morrow, 1906- Title: Anne Morrow Lindbergh papers, 1906-1988 (inclusive).

Hi, Sorry to be so long in answering. Work has been - work and extremely time consuming/stressful this past week. So, I just now got around to reading this. I did not have the information you mention regarding the Lucy Blakemore/Thomas Bragg family. Can you name for me any siblings of John? I did not have John. I did have four others and had heard that one of Thomas/Lucy's grandchildren was the General Braxton Bragg. True? False? or undetermined? However, I've never been able to determine exactly how the rumor-mill got to Braxton. It became a guessing game for me. Whether it is true or not is not a large concern for me. George Blakemore and his brother Thomas are more important to me, personally. Now, Braxton would be a feather in my cap, according to one of my husbands cousins. Either way - it's good to find another cousin. And - just who is the person hiding behind einstein's dog? ( Guess I should research that? ) I would like any other information you have on your line - as far as you give it out. Thanks Alice ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Your mention of Schoharie County is the first reference I have seen which may begin to extend my line. My father, gf, and ggf lived there and in adjoining Montgomery County. However, I have been unable to find anyone else with a Neville link to this part of New York State. Prodded by your posting I did a web search and encountered some excellent work by the historians of Schoharie County. They have posted on line a history of the county covering the period 1713 to 1882 entitled: HISTORY OF Schoharie County, NEW YORK, WITH Illustrations and Biographical Sketches OF SOME OF ITS PROMINENT MEN AND PIONEERS. By William E. Roscoe. The web site is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyschoha/roscoes.html In the history of the town it is noted that the founder had immigrated from NJ perhaps establishing a relationship to NY Nevilles who may have followed. The excitement came when I read the following: "Theodore Nevills commenced the same business (mercantile ed.) here and after a successful trade of six years, a conflagration swept his property away together with adjoining buildings which have not been replaced." By inference I conclude this Theodore to be in my line as my gf name was Theodore John Neville and ggf John Nevill(e). It is fascinating to ponder why and how the name evolved during this period. Especially since the grave marker for my ggf has Neville on one side with the date of death and Nevill on the other when the plot was first established (I presume). Anyway, this may help in your search for information for Schoharie County.