Paddy, I am really intrigued by some of the Davis & Mitchell possible ties going to Orange Co, NC then to Canada. There are lots of intermarriages. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Would someone be kind enough to post a family group sheet for James & Eve DeShired Nevill? I am trying to sort some things out & can't find a group sheet for them. Shirley WIlcox ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Several people in our research group will recognize their ancestors below. Virgil D. White, Index to Volunteer Soldiers in Indian Wars & Disturbances 1815-1858, Vol II, L-Z (Waynesboro, TN: The National Historical Pub Co, 1994) p1023 Neaville, Elihus, Pvt & sgt, srv in Smith's & Hunt's Cos of Cawlfield's Battn of AL Mtd Vols in the FL War Neaville, George W, Pvt, srv in Smith's & Hunt's Cos of Cawlfield's Bttn of AL Mtd Vols in Fl War p1029 Nevel, George, Pvt, srv in Nichols' Co of the 61st Mtd Riflemen in the IN Mil in the Black Hawk War Nevels/Nevel, Allen, Pvt, srv in Martin's Co of Chisolm's AL Mil Vols in the FL War Nevels, Harvey, Sgt, srv in Capt Burns' Co of the 3rd Regt in the 3rd Brig of IL Mtd Vols in the Black Hawk War Nevil, John, Pvt, srv in Capt Duncan's Co of Dodge's Regt of Mtd Rifflemen in the IL Vols in the Black Hawk War Nevil, John, Sgt, srv in Capt Scales' Co of Inf in the 27th Regt of IL Mil in the Black Hawk War Nevill, Jesse, Pvt, srv in Roberts' Co of the 1st TN Mtd Mil in the Seminole (FL) War Nevill, Joshua, Pvt, srv in Chism's Co of the 1st Vol Mtd Gunmen of West TN in the War of 1818 Nevill, Patrick, Cpl, srv in Co A of the 1st AR Mtd Gunmen called out for protection of the Sabine Frontier in 1836 Nevill, Philip, Pvt, srv in Smith's Co os Smith's Regt of LA Vol Mil in the FL War Nevill, Thomas E, Pvt, srv in Cherry's Co of Lauderdale's Bttn of TN Mtd Inf in the Cherokee War Neville, Alexander M, Sgt, srv in Capt Dowling's Co of Arty in the 27th Regt of IL Mil in Black Hawk War Neville, E, Pvt, srv in Capt Scales' Co of Inf in the 27th Regt of IL Mil in the Black Hawk War Neville, James, Pvt srv in Thomas' Co of IA Mil in the Black Hawk War Nevils, Squire, Pvt, srv in Hardin's Co of Porter's 1st GA Inf in the Creek War Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I have been researching some on the War of 1812; I do have a list of soldiers from Kentucky who served in the War (I don't have it at hand as I type this, I'll have to search through my files) but there were several Neavills listed. I've been unable to find out which Neavills were in which units and which units served at the Battle of New Orleans; maybe someone on the list can give us some ideas on resources to use to sort this out. Your information about George Barrett is quite interesting and the first good clue I've had on Elihu in some time. Your list of Elihu's children is correct; and the names are common but similar. I'll try to find my list of Kentucky Neavills who served in the War of 1812, James -----Original Message----- From: BARBARA A MCNAMER <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, March 06, 1999 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] NC, AR, & AL Nevilles >James Graham, >I don't know if George Neavill was in the War of 1812?? Is there a >place to find out who served in that war and esp. in the Battle of >New Orleans? George was born ca 1760-1765, so he would have been >pushing 50 years old in 1812? The property in Jackson Co AL seems to >be too much of a coincidence, although I have found no records of >George himself there!? [Elihu Neavill, Geo. W Neavill & George >Barrett (Patsy Neavill) ?] .... (A bunch of George's kids were born >in AL) ....... > >George was old enough, maybe Elihu could be a grandson? Although I >have not found another Neavill around that could be the in between >generation? George left Kentucky ca 1811? First child I have born >in Alabama was ca 1815? So, I have three or four years unaccounted >for there? > >Lots of questions and no answers............ > >My ancestor, Elisha Neavill (George's son) had children George >W(ashington), Mahala, John M & William H(enry). >Elihu had children (correct me if I am wrong): >James A [Geoge had a son James] >Elijah [George had a son Elijah] >Elizabeth [George had a wife Elizabeth] >Mary [George had other grandchildren named Mary?] >John C. [Elizabeth's father was John and Elisha's son also] >William H. [Same as Elisha's son?] >Sarah [George had other grandchildren named Sarah?] >CW [could this be GW?] >? >Of course except for the E names, they are pretty ordinary, but they >do show up in other grandchildren also ? So who was in that Battle of >New Orleans??????????????? > >____ >Barbara >

There were several early MD Noble's who could have been related to Sarah Noble who supposedly m William Neville. Peter Wilson Coldham, Settlers of Maryland 1679-1700 (GPC) p123 Noble, Isaac Som Noble's Lot, 73A, 6 Mch 1686 Som Winterbourne, 100A, 10 July 1683 Noble, John StM Noble's Victory, 50A, 17 Aug 1682 Noble, Robert Tal Noble's Addision, 150A, 12 Mch 1680 Tal Noble's Meadow, 150A, 24 Oct 1681 Tal Noble Range, 200A, 1 Jly 1679 Noble, William Som Cherry Garden, 86, 10 Nov 1695 Som Timber Grove, 150, 15 June 1683 I have not checked for Hartshorn or Whitman Shirley Wilcox ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Peter, Did you ever get a copy of the letter Nonette Swedberg has that Wilson Neville wrote? In looking though old posts I see you asked when Harford was formed from Baltimore. The year was 1773. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Peter, Your new (Feb.) expiration of records is great. I have done very little Talbot or Queen Anne Co research. The 15 June 1694 Talbot Co. deed of William Neville to Sarah Noble is very interesting. This is three years before William produced a certificate (1697) saying he married Sarah Noble in Salem 28 Oct 1694. Westchester is not in Henry Gannett's 1904 Gazetteer of MD. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

James Graham, I don't know if George Neavill was in the War of 1812?? Is there a place to find out who served in that war and esp. in the Battle of New Orleans? George was born ca 1760-1765, so he would have been pushing 50 years old in 1812? The property in Jackson Co AL seems to be too much of a coincidence, although I have found no records of George himself there!? [Elihu Neavill, Geo. W Neavill & George Barrett (Patsy Neavill) ?] .... (A bunch of George's kids were born in AL) ....... George was old enough, maybe Elihu could be a grandson? Although I have not found another Neavill around that could be the in between generation? George left Kentucky ca 1811? First child I have born in Alabama was ca 1815? So, I have three or four years unaccounted for there? Lots of questions and no answers............ My ancestor, Elisha Neavill (George's son) had children George W(ashington), Mahala, John M & William H(enry). Elihu had children (correct me if I am wrong): James A [Geoge had a son James] Elijah [George had a son Elijah] Elizabeth [George had a wife Elizabeth] Mary [George had other grandchildren named Mary?] John C. [Elizabeth's father was John and Elisha's son also] William H. [Same as Elisha's son?] Sarah [George had other grandchildren named Sarah?] CW [could this be GW?] ? Of course except for the E names, they are pretty ordinary, but they do show up in other grandchildren also ? So who was in that Battle of New Orleans??????????????? ____ Barbara

I am sending this pretty much as it was. The Carmen mentioned is Carmen MATTESON of FL who is researching the family of James NEVILLS. She believes he is related to my MD NEVILL line. My ancestor Moses NEVILL of Harford Co., MD married Elizabeth MITCHELL a daughter of Thomas MITCHELL of Harford Co. and Hannah OSBORN. Richard MITCHELL (a brother of my Thomas MITCHELL) and his wife Elizabeth WILLIAMS had a grandson John MITCHELL s/o Thomas MITCHELL and Anne PRESTON, who married Hannah DAVIS d/o Joseph DAVIS and Susannah CRAWFORD. Hannah DAVIS had a sister Cassandra DAVIS who married William NEVILLE and lived near Dublin MD. l would very much like to find out if this Davis family is related to any or all of the Davises mentioned below. I sent the following to Jan a while ago and asked her if she thought I should post it to the list and/or Shirley. She suggusted that it was worth posting to the list so here it is: Paddy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- After talking to Carmen on the weekend, I was gathering together some Davis information I have to send to her. She is a descendant of Thaddeus DAVIS. I started looking at what I had and it got me to wondering about something so I thought I'd run it past you and see if you think it is worth posting to the list or sending to Shirley. It's all very airy fairy but see what you think. I will try to explain it as best I can: Carmen descends from Eve DeShired and James NEVILLS of N.J. | through *Abraham NEVILLS = Deborah OSTRANDER Deborah OSTRANDER's parents were *Andrew OSTRANDER and Jane DAVIS Jane DAVIS was a daughter of Thaddeus DAVIS below. DAVIS, Thaddeus m ? Children: Phoebe m. Wm. LEE *Jane m Andrew OSTRANDER Note: At this point I do not Lydia m Peter OSTRANDER know where Thaddeus Loyal DAVIS came from before Thaddeus settling here as a **Hall United Empire Loyalist Wright Richard William Deborah m. Simeon Relyea Lois m Cornelius Van Volkenburg So there is a DAVIS/NEVILLS connection here. Also hold the thought that they named a son Hall. There was another Davis family who arrived as Loyalists about the same time. They were from MD and Orange Co. N.C. DAVIS, Thomas m 1)**Deborah HALL d/o James & Mary Hall of Orange Co. N.C. Children: Jane m. Wm Potts Mary m Wm. Vail Fanny m Usual WILSON Thomas Anne m. James STEWART Elizabeth m Caleb WOOD Margaret m. Joseph Brant ROUSSEAUX Robert William Alexander John Susan m Michael BURKHOLDER [NB- Burkholders intermarry with VOLLICKS aka James Van Valkenburgh] David m. 2)Margaret WILLIAMS Children: Pamelia m William Pew NEVILLS (from Carmen's Nevills line) Louisa m Samuel PEW David James NB Thomas DAVIS was born in 1764 at Forresters Creek, Orange Co. N.C. He was the son of Robert DAVIS (probable son of Thomas & Mary DAVIS) who it is believed was born in Baltimore, MD c1735. So, we have another Nevills connection here. There was another Davis family that was UEL and also came here from MD, a William DAVIS and wife Hannah PHILLIPS. William is believed to be another son of Thomas and Mary Davis and uncle of Thomas DAVIS who married Deborah HALL. I believe that Thaddeus DAVIS is in some way related to this second group from MD and NC but cannot prove it. I would love to find out if these Davis families are in any way connected to the the family of Jane and Cassandra DAVIS. I know this is all very convoluted but I see connections. I also do Moore research and can tell you that Moores who settled here had connections to the families that married into these Davis families. Sources for the above: The Loyalists in Ontario: Sons and Daughters of the American Loyalists of Upper Canada and The Davis Family of Norfolk County by James Stengel.

Rev. Frederick W. Bailey, Early Massachusetts Marriages Prior to 1800, Third Book (1914, reprinted by GPC 1968 with the 3 vols bound as one) Reading [1653-1726] 29 May 1644 Linn Village shall be called Reading p77 Thomas Hartshorn & Sarah ______, 10 Apr 1661 p79 Thomas Hartshorn & Hannah _____, 10 May 1671 Clarence Almon Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700 shows these references as two different men. Thomas Hartshorn born 1648 m(1) Hannah Goodwin 1671, m(2) Sarah Swan 1674. A second Thomas Hartshorn died 1683 & m(1) Susannah Buck & (2) Sarah ?Ayres Lamson, wd of Wm 1661. There is no Neville/Noble marriage nor is there a Richard Whittman m Mary (witnesses for William Nevil). Shirley Wilcox ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

One clue I have about Elihu Neavill is that there was a biography of his son, James A., published in Goodspeed book done in Arkansas. In that book, it states that James' grandfather Neavill (Elihu's father) served in the War of 1812 from Kentucky and "was with General Andrew Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans". Do you know if the old George was in the War of 1812? James Graham -----Original Message----- From: BARBARA A MCNAMER <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 8:15 AM Subject: [NEVILLE-L] NC, AR, & AL Nevilles >"I have a strong hunch that Elijah and Elihu Nevill who are in land >records >of AR are part of the Halifax group, too, because the Greens who >intermarried with the Nevilles in Halifax Co., NC, had a fondness for >the >Elisha, Elijah, Elihu names. Last year, Charles Graham noted the >following >on Elihu Nevill: he was given a land grant in Jackson Co., Alabama in >1830; >a Geoge W. Nevill was given a land grant immediately next to Elihu's. > Elihu >moved from Alabama to White county, Arkansas in 1844, one of the >original >settlers of that county. According to Arkansas Census records in >1850, >Elihu was born in Kentucky (he would have been born in 1805). " > >I have some loose threads, I may have mentioned before. >George S. Barrett ( and son John) also had land ajoining or near >Elihu and George W. Neavill in Jackson Co. AL. George Barrett was >the husband of Patsy Neavill of Wayne Co KY. Old George Neavill of >Wayne Co KY gave concent to their marriage as a father of Patsy. So. >.........could Patsy, George & Elihu be possible siblings? Then Ryan >has info that the Wayne Co KY & IL Neavill's families came from NC >as Neufville's. So, this thread goes from NC to (maybe TN) to KY to >AL? > >There are a whole lot of missing pieces. Too bad there are not more >records in Alabama...........Old George did not stay anywhere for >very long. I haven't a clue as to where he was 1760-1800. No >records in Alabama 1811-1830. Interesting that Elihu and George W. >got land grants the same year that old George took off for Illinois? >(1830). So all I am going on are a couple of records in Wayne Co KY >1800-1811 and jump to Effingham Co IL from 1830-1835. > >George S. Barrett and Old George Neavill both ended up in Missouri? >Now wave a magic wand and connect all of the dots??? > >____ >Barbara >

Ruth Nevels sent me a Confederate soldier's record for a Lafayett Nevels in Mississippi. He could be part of the Obadiah Nevil group in Barnwell Co., SC who came to MS. Several in the Barnwell Co. group were using the same given names as the James Nevil/Mary Lewis group in Amherst Co., VA. However, I am wondering if the Lafayette Nevil of Nelson Co., VA could have a connection with the one in MS or be the same person. The Confederate record Ruth sent shows the following: Lafayett Nevels, Co. M, Wood's Regiment, Confederate Cavalry (1st Regiment Mississippi Cavalry / Wirt Adams' Regiment Cavalry), Private. Company Muster Roll of the organization named above for Dec. 31, 1861 to April 30, 1862. Enlisted April 10(?), 1862 in *Monroeville(?) by Yancey. Period: During the war. *[My note - Jan: The place of enlistment is hard to decipher. Maybe Ruth can read her copy better than I can read mine. It could be Masonville or Menserville or something else. If it is Monroeville, that would be in Alabama, which makes it plausible that this Lafayette had some connection with Zach. Nevil who went to AL from Amherst Co., VA; maybe the son who was b. ca 1818 (birthdate according to Ivan Nevill's book) or a grandson.] Jan Jan, I too have wondered if Zachariah's son Lafayette went to MS. Civil War Pension Records for Richard Nevil (#1327661 Rejected) who was a Pvt, F 12 LA show he enlisted June 1863, Vicksburg, MS & was discharged Oct 1865, Memphis, TN. He was a slave & says he was born 25 Dec 1838 at Nelson Co, VA. His former owners were Fayette Nevil, William Forbes, William Talbert & Felra? Murphy & John Young. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Jan, Zachariah who m Ann Scott Jefferson was not the one who went to Tuscaloosa Co, AL. That Zachariah died 1830 in Nelson Co, VA. He had a son James Lewis Nevill who m Dorothy Moorman & it was their son Zachariah who m Ann Lewis 1853 in Tuscaloosa, AL. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

The information from Kathryn Green's 'book' on the Nevilles indicates that the James Nevills in my line died in Ontario in March of 1811. I have been using the name Eve as the name of his wife, since in various places in her work she indicates that she was originally Eve DeShired. However, in another portion of the 'book' she is listed as Eve (Emeline or Angline De Shired). She died in 1828. I currently do not have any information on how old James or Eve were. They were married in about 1778. There is one reference to James nevills had a character reference dated 3/17/1786 written by Nathaniel Pettit of Newton, Sussex County, New Jersy. He states his friends were Hugh Hegerty, Steven Hegerty and John Pettit. There are times at which I wish there were fewer James Nevills to choose from. James Neville is thought to be Irish and Eve to be of German stock. I wish I had a better idea of how to go about finding more about James, but since I am not in New Jersey, I doubt I have access to anything to follow back further.

On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:51:48 -0500 (EST) Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> writes: >Shirley, > >Thank you very much for your all your helpful details and insightful >analysis. Based on your notes, it seems that James Nevil, son on the >Rev. War Thos. Nevil who went from Amherst Co., VA to Rutherford Co., >TN, is the one who married Sally Shrader, and that Sara Ann Agnes >Shreader Neville, buried in Rutherford Co., TN, and Sally Shrader are >the same person. That leaves the other James of Amherst Co., son of >James Nevil and Mary Lewis, without a wife, and the Ivan B. Nevill >GENEALOGY OF THE NEVILL FAMILY incorrect with regard to that James. Yes, that is correct. > >I am interested in any stray James, William, and/or Martin >Neville/Nevill/Nevil/Nevils/Nevel/Nevels around the end of the 1700s >and beginning of the 1800s. > >If James, son of James Nevil and Mary Lewis first appeared on the tax >list of AC in 1787, he must have been b. ca. 1766 or before. I am going >to check Nelson Co., VA to see what I can turn up on the estate that >Lafayette Nevil administered in Nelson Co. for a James Nevil. I would >like to know what the James Nevil, b. ca. 1766, was doing in the early >1800s. He may have been in Buckingham Co. for a time. Unfortunately few records for this county are available. >Do you think Lafayette Nevil who administered the estate in Nelson Co. >the same one who was the son of Zachariah Nevil who m. Ann Scott Jefferson >and went to Tuscaloosa, AL? I am only aware of one early Lafayette in this area & he was Zach's son, so my guess was that he was administrator of his uncle's estate. >You mentioned that you thought James, son of James and Mary Lewis >Nevil, never married, which would account for a nephew administering >his estate. >An abstract in THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VA, 1761-1807 AND >ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VA 1748-1763 by Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis supports that >idea. >p. 393 of book >Deed Book I, p. 473: 17 Feb. 1803. Jas. Lewis, Cornelius Nevil, [my >note: according to the index of DB I, Jas. Lewis is a mistake in >transcription. I agree; the common was left out. >It should be Jas., Lewis, & Cornelius Nevil], Rowland Edmunds & wife >Eliz., Chas. A. Lewis & wife Sally, Wm. O. Murray & wife Lucy, Clough >Shelton & wife Mary, Saml. Edmunds & wife Ester, Amherst Co., to Zach. Nevil, AC, for L213-7-6, 142 1/2 acres. Lines: S fork Rockfish, Jas. Nevil, Zach. Nevil, Cornl. Nevil, Peter Legrand, Dutch Creek road. There >is doubt whether brothers and sisters of Jas. Nevil, in case he dies >without issue, would not be entitled to tract by virtue of their >father's will; they rel. all rights. >Wit: Hardin P. Lewis, Jno. B. West, Jno. Staples. > >My note: The stipulation in the will of the father of the above >children (James Nevil 1784 will in Amherst Co.; Will Book 2) that seems >to be causing the problem in the above deed is as follows: "My Will and >Desire is that if any of my children die before they have children >themselves that their part may be equally divided between the rest of >their brothers and sisters." >Although the language of the deed abstract is ambiguous, it looks like >the bothers and sisters were being very kind in relinquishing all rights >to James's part of the estate in case he died without children. That >relinquishment to him alone and to none of the other brothers or >sisters would seem to indicate he was the only one of them without >children or without the prospect of having children at the time of the >deed, thus probably not married (or else he had had a really bad >accident--sorry, I couldn't resist <g>). > >I have not followed him any later than the 1807 references to him in >the Amherst Co. Deed book. > >Ruth Nevels sent me a Confederate soldier's record for a Lafayett >Nevels in Mississippi. He could be part of the Obadiah Nevil group in >Barnwell Co., SC who came to MS. Several in the Barnwell Co. group were >using the same given names as the James Nevil/Mary Lewis group in Amherst >Co., VA. However, I am wondering if the Lafayette Nevil of Nelson Co., >VA could have a connection with the one in MS or be the same person. The >Confederate record Ruth sent shows the following: > >Lafayett Nevels, Co. M, Wood's Regiment, Confederate Cavalry (1st >Regiment Mississippi Cavalry / Wirt Adams' Regiment Cavalry), Private. >Company Muster Roll of the organization named above for Dec. 31, 1861 >to April 30, 1862. Enlisted April 10(?), 1862 in *Monroeville(?) by >Yancey. >Period: During the war. > >*[My note - Jan: The place of enlistment is hard to decipher. Maybe >Ruth can read her copy better than I can read mine. It could be >Masonville or Menserville or something else. If it is Monroeville, that >would be in Alabama, which makes it plausible that this Lafayette had >some connection with Zach. Nevil who went to AL from Amherst Co., VA; >maybe the son who was b. ca 1818 (birthdate according to Ivan Nevill's >book) or a grandson.] > >Shirley, do you know if there is a publication which has the VA tax >lists, or does one have to use microfilm? A few lists here & there are transcribed, but to get a long run picture you have to use the film. When I was using these over 10 years ago, most were not filmed. It is very time consuming & tedious but usually has dividends. The 1800 tax list for Amherst Co. is in Vol 5 & 6 of The Virginia Genealogist. The last year I found James Nevil in Amherst Parish was 1801. I have record of Zachariah & Cornelius Nevil through 1807 in Amherst. There was no list for any county in 1808. Nelson Co. was formed in 1808 from Amherst & Cornelius & Zariah Nevil are on the 1809 of Nelson Co. In 1815 it switches to Estate of Cornelius Nevil. The name Zachariah Nevil stays every year through 1828 which is the last year I checked Nelson Co. A James Nevil shows up in Nelson Co. taxes for the first time in 1813. >Jan > > >At 11:37 AM 3/4/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Daris, Milton, Jan etc., >> >>I suspect some of this is a repeat, but I will post it in the hopes >it >>helps someone. >> >>The Amherst Co., VA Marriage Register 1763-1852 has: >> 22 May 1818 Nevils, James & Sally Shrader, George Shrader sec. & >wit. >>[I don't have a page number in my notes; I used microfilm at VSL. I >did >>make a note in 1985 that the register was not indexed & that I needed >to >>look at it again.] >> >>I do not know George Shrader's relationship. There is a George >Shrader on >>the 1820 VA census index as on page 35A of Amherst Co. >> >> >>I have two sources for Rutherford cemetery records, that differ >somewhat. >> >>Stones River Chapter SAR & Rutherford Co Hist Soc, Rutherford Co, TN >>Cemeteries, Vol. 1, Northwest Third of County (1985 or 1975?) >>p132 Ward Cemetery on Walter Hill Quadrangle >> Sarah S Nevill, mother of Sarah A Ward, d 21 Feb 1882 >> Sarah Ann Agnes Nevil Ward, wf of Best Ward, 6 Nov 1820-June 1910 >> >> >>Rutherford Co Hist Soc, Publication No 8, Winter 1977 >>p62 Ward Cemetery, edge of Florence >> [Most people buried here were members of Bethel Church] >> 1. Sara Ann Agnes Shreader Neville >> 2. Best Ward d ae 24 >> 3. Mrs Jarrell, dau of Sarah Ann Agnes Nevill >> 4. Letitia Neville, d as a young lady >> 10. Sara Ann Agnes Nevile Ward, b 1819, d ae 91 >> >> >>NOTE that Sarah Ward's birth would be consistent with an 1818 Amherst >Co >>VA marriage of James Nevill & Sarah Shrader, >> >> >>The Colonial Hardy Murfree Chapter DAR, Rutherford Co TN Marriage >Records >>1804-1850 >>p22 >> Cain, George & Elizabeth Nevils, 18 Dec 1829 >>p23 >> Parker, Phillip & Anne Nevil, 19 Nov 1829 >>p36 >> Ward, Best & Sarah Ann Nevil, 25 Sept 1838 >>p53 >> Jarrell, Edmond T & Emeline E Nevill, 9 Jly 1844 >> >> >>Porch, Deane, 1850 Census of Rutherford Co, TN (1967) >>p20 9 Sept >> 223 Thomas G Nevil, 44, m, farming, VA >> Elizabeth, 29, f, VA >> Mary A, 9, f TN, sch >> Caroline, 6, f, TN, sch >> Elizabeth, 3, f, TN >> Catharine, 10/12, f, TN >> William H Hagar, 31, m, blacksmith, VA >> Elizabeth Hagar, 57, f, VA >>p36 >> 263 George I Cain, 50, m, farming, VA >> Elizabeth, 46, f, VA, can't r/w >> ... >> Reubin J, 10, m, TN >>p52 >> 378 Best Ward, 42, m, farmer, 3000, NC >> Sarah A A. 30, f, VA >> Jas, 10, m, TN, sch >> ... >> Emeline E, 2 f, TN >>p59 >> 424 Jno Nevil, 31, m, carpenter, TN >> Mary A, 25, f, TN >> Jas, 2, m, TN >> infant, 3/12, f, TN >> Saml Hope, 18, m, carpetner, TN >> Richard, 24, m, carpenter, TN >> 425 SARAH A NEVIL, 50, f, VA >> Emeline E Jarrell, 28, f, VA >> Mary E, 4, f, TN >> Sarah E, 2, f, TN >> George A, 7/12, f[sic], TN >> >>Note that Sarah A Nevil was born ca 1800 in VA and Sarah A A Ward was >>born ca 1820 in VA. So, if this was the Sarah Shrader who m James >Nevil >>gives some idea of her age at least. John Nevil who lived next door >was >>born ca 1829 in TN. Davidson Co TN marriages show a license but not >>return of John J Nevels to Mary Ann Hope 13 Apr 1848. >> >> >>WPA, Tennessee Records of Rutherford County Wills, Settlements & >>Inventories, Vol. 8, 1830-1832 (1938) >>p141 >> Inventory of the estate of James Nevils deceased, sold by Walter >>Keeble administrator etc. on the 28th of Nov. 1830 - >> The purchasers included Reuben Nevils, Mrs. Nevil (widow), Thomas >>Nevil >> >>Note that the first name of the widow is not mentioned. The 1840 >census >>of Rutherford Co, TN does have a female Sarah however who appears to >be a >>widow. >> SARAH NEVIL, 0 males, 1 f 15-20, 1 f 40-50 >> >>Anyway, for those trying to sort these families out, several >different TN >>counties need to be examined. >> >>Shirley Wilcox >> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

"I have a strong hunch that Elijah and Elihu Nevill who are in land records of AR are part of the Halifax group, too, because the Greens who intermarried with the Nevilles in Halifax Co., NC, had a fondness for the Elisha, Elijah, Elihu names. Last year, Charles Graham noted the following on Elihu Nevill: he was given a land grant in Jackson Co., Alabama in 1830; a Geoge W. Nevill was given a land grant immediately next to Elihu's. Elihu moved from Alabama to White county, Arkansas in 1844, one of the original settlers of that county. According to Arkansas Census records in 1850, Elihu was born in Kentucky (he would have been born in 1805). " I have some loose threads, I may have mentioned before. George S. Barrett ( and son John) also had land ajoining or near Elihu and George W. Neavill in Jackson Co. AL. George Barrett was the husband of Patsy Neavill of Wayne Co KY. Old George Neavill of Wayne Co KY gave concent to their marriage as a father of Patsy. So. .........could Patsy, George & Elihu be possible siblings? Then Ryan has info that the Wayne Co KY & IL Neavill's families came from NC as Neufville's. So, this thread goes from NC to (maybe TN) to KY to AL? There are a whole lot of missing pieces. Too bad there are not more records in Alabama...........Old George did not stay anywhere for very long. I haven't a clue as to where he was 1760-1800. No records in Alabama 1811-1830. Interesting that Elihu and George W. got land grants the same year that old George took off for Illinois? (1830). So all I am going on are a couple of records in Wayne Co KY 1800-1811 and jump to Effingham Co IL from 1830-1835. George S. Barrett and Old George Neavill both ended up in Missouri? Now wave a magic wand and connect all of the dots??? ____ Barbara

Kathy, Thank you for the clarifications, corrections, and comments on Solomon C. and Drury A. Nevill, Barbara Hester Nevill Farrier, and Granderson Nevill. I have seen Barbara's family in the Mont. Co., TN census many times, right there with the Whitfields and Killebrews who were related to the other bunch of Nevills, the George Nevill group, in that county. I have never seen a connection between the Killebrews and Nevills over in the Edgecombe/Granville/Halifax Co./Orange Co., NC area, yet that is the area from which the Killebrews came, not the western NC/SC border area where George's group lived before coming to TN. I wonder if some lost Neville/Killebrew link in Edgecombe, etc. Co. is what drew John, son of George, and your Solomon together in Mont. Co., TN, rather than a Neville link? Do you happen to know if John Sims Nevill, father of Albert Galllatino Nevill, lived in Orange Co.? Also, have you found evidence that John's middle name was Sims? Jim Robertson's chart is the only place I have seen a middle name for John. Have you ever corresponded with Jim? (Sorry to be asking so many questions when you are sick. I am in no hurry for a reply <g>.) As for the Dallas Co., AR Nevill/Nevels group, it looks to me like some of the Orange Co. & Halifax Co., NC group made their way to AR. Linda Smith's group in Dallas Co., AR, Elijah Hillman Green & Malissa Eunice Nevils (married in Halifax Co., NC), had sons Sterling Dudley Green and George Willis Green who were born in TN, according to Linda. The Hillman name was also used by one of the Nevills from Halifax Co., NC, who went to AL (Lois Boesh's ancestor), and Willis and Sterling are names also found in the Halifax/Orange Co. Neville chart of Jim Robertson. In addition, Linda stated that her husband's grandfather had a brother Elijah Nevil Green b. 12 Aug 1874 -- it looks like some of the Nevill-Green clan from Halifax Co., NC were trading that Elijah name back and forth. I have a strong hunch that Elijah and Elihu Nevill who are in land records of AR are part of the Halifax group, too, because the Greens who intermarried with the Nevilles in Halifax Co., NC, had a fondness for the Elisha, Elijah, Elihu names. Last year, Charles Graham noted the following on Elihu Nevill: he was given a land grant in Jackson Co., Alabama in 1830; a Geoge W. Nevill was given a land grant immediately next to Elihu's. Elihu moved from Alabama to White county, Arkansas in 1844, one of the original settlers of that county. According to Arkansas Census records in 1850, Elihu was born in Kentucky (he would have been born in 1805). I am wondering which one of those Nevills in Halifax or Orange Co. might have come to KY where they had children, or at least the child Elihu Nevill. Since we know for sure some of the Halifax Co., NC group was in AL, that could explain why Elihu Nevill went there before going to AR. Do you happen to know which Solomon Nevill is on p. 233, 1840 Franklin Co., AL census? I couldn't find him in the Bureau of Land Mgmt. index for AL and no other Nevill is listed on the census in Franklin Co. for 1840 so I couldn't place him with one of the Halifax Co., or more likely Orange Co., NC groups. (BTW, I guess everyone else has already figured out that the BLM records available on line are a great supplement to census records. I just realized the other day that if I put the BLM state indexes of specific surnames with my census files and tax lists, I have an even better picture of where some of my people were at specific times.) Jan At 10:42 PM 3/2/99 -0600, you wrote: >Jan: > >You lured me out of the woodwork!! Not fair, I'm sick. > >Couple of comments from me. First, I'm not convinced that >Solomon Nevill Sr. was named Solomon CORBIN Nevill. I have >never seen his name this way in a primary source. I have >not even seen a middle initial C. for him that I remember. >I think the assumption has been made that he was Sr. and >Solomon Corbin Nevill was Jr. I'm thinking that 1777 was too >early for the common usage of middle names. Can any one shed >any light on that? Jeanne Barton, what do you think? I think >the Corbin name was added with Jr.'s generation. > >My gut feeling is that Drury A. Neville was a Drury Allen Neville. >That's a favorite name among the early Allens. If he is a son >of John Sims Neville, then I'd look for John's mystery wife to >have an Allen connection since I do not know of any up the >Neville-Walton-Sims line. > >Also Barbara "Heston" Neville's name was most likely Barbara >Hester Neville, named after her maternal grandmother Barbara >(Hester) Walton. That Heston clue led me astray since 1984. She >married Needham B. Farrier. > >I have Annette Travis as Granderson (Grandison) Neville's THIRD >wife. His first was Minerva Peterson who married as her second >husband Meredith Howard. They had a long marriage and many children! > >Kathy > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? >http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm > >

Shirley, Thank you very much for your all your helpful details and insightful analysis. Based on your notes, it seems that James Nevil, son on the Rev. War Thos. Nevil who went from Amherst Co., VA to Rutherford Co., TN, is the one who married Sally Shrader, and that Sara Ann Agnes Shreader Neville, buried in Rutherford Co., TN, and Sally Shrader are the same person. That leaves the other James of Amherst Co., son of James Nevil and Mary Lewis, without a wife, and the Ivan B. Nevill GENEALOGY OF THE NEVILL FAMILY incorrect with regard to that James. I am interested in any stray James, William, and/or Martin Neville/Nevill/Nevil/Nevils/Nevel/Nevels around the end of the 1700s and beginning of the 1800s. If James, son of James Nevil and Mary Lewis first appeared on the tax list of AC in 1787, he must have been b. ca. 1766 or before. I am going to check Nelson Co., VA to see what I can turn up on the estate that Lafayette Nevil administered in Nelson Co. for a James Nevil. I would like to know what the James Nevil, b. ca. 1766, was doing in the early 1800s. Do you think Lafayette Nevil who administered the estate in Nelson Co. the same one who was the son of Zachariah Nevil who m. Ann Scott Jefferson and went to Tuscaloosa, AL? You mentioned that you thought James, son of James and Mary Lewis Nevil, never married, which would account for a nephew administering his estate. An abstract in THE DEEDS OF AMHERST COUNTY, VA, 1761-1807 AND ALBEMARLE COUNTY, VA 1748-1763 by Rev. Bailey Fulton Davis supports that idea. p. 393 of book Deed Book I, p. 473: 17 Feb. 1803. Jas. Lewis, Cornelius Nevil, [my note: according to the index of DB I, Jas. Lewis is a mistake in transcription. It should be Jas., Lewis, & Cornelius Nevil], Rowland Edmunds & wife Eliz., Chas. A. Lewis & wife Sally, Wm. O. Murray & wife Lucy, Clough Shelton & wife Mary, Saml. Edmunds & wife Ester, Amherst Co., to Zach. Nevil, AC, for L213-7-6, 142 1/2 acres. Lines: S fork Rockfish, Jas. Nevil, Zach. Nevil, Cornl. Nevil, Peter Legrand, Dutch Creek road. There is doubt whether brothers and sisters of Jas. Nevil, in case he dies without issue, would not be entitled to tract by virtue of their father's will; they rel. all rights. Wit: Hardin P. Lewis, Jno. B. West, Jno. Staples. My note: The stipulation in the will of the father of the above children (James Nevil 1784 will in Amherst Co.; Will Book 2) that seems to be causing the problem in the above deed is as follows: "My Will and Desire is that if any of my children die before they have children themselves that their part may be equally divided between the rest of their brothers and sisters." Although the language of the deed abstract is ambiguous, it looks like the bothers and sisters were being very kind in relinquishing all rights to James's part of the estate in case he died without children. That relinquishment to him alone and to none of the other brothers or sisters would seem to indicate he was the only one of them without children or without the prospect of having children at the time of the deed, thus probably not married (or else he had had a really bad accident--sorry, I couldn't resist <g>). I have not followed him any later than the 1807 references to him in the Amherst Co. Deed book. Ruth Nevels sent me a Confederate soldier's record for a Lafayett Nevels in Mississippi. He could be part of the Obadiah Nevil group in Barnwell Co., SC who came to MS. Several in the Barnwell Co. group were using the same given names as the James Nevil/Mary Lewis group in Amherst Co., VA. However, I am wondering if the Lafayette Nevil of Nelson Co., VA could have a connection with the one in MS or be the same person. The Confederate record Ruth sent shows the following: Lafayett Nevels, Co. M, Wood's Regiment, Confederate Cavalry (1st Regiment Mississippi Cavalry / Wirt Adams' Regiment Cavalry), Private. Company Muster Roll of the organization named above for Dec. 31, 1861 to April 30, 1862. Enlisted April 10(?), 1862 in *Monroeville(?) by Yancey. Period: During the war. *[My note - Jan: The place of enlistment is hard to decipher. Maybe Ruth can read her copy better than I can read mine. It could be Masonville or Menserville or something else. If it is Monroeville, that would be in Alabama, which makes it plausible that this Lafayette had some connection with Zach. Nevil who went to AL from Amherst Co., VA; maybe the son who was b. ca 1818 (birthdate according to Ivan Nevill's book) or a grandson.] Shirley, do you know if there is a publication which has the VA tax lists, or does one have to use microfilm? I am very grateful for the help you provided in answering questions about James Nevil who m. Sally Shrader. Jan At 11:37 AM 3/4/99 -0500, you wrote: >Daris, Milton, Jan etc., > >I suspect some of this is a repeat, but I will post it in the hopes it >helps someone. > >The Amherst Co., VA Marriage Register 1763-1852 has: > 22 May 1818 Nevils, James & Sally Shrader, George Shrader sec. & wit. >[I don't have a page number in my notes; I used microfilm at VSL. I did >make a note in 1985 that the register was not indexed & that I needed to >look at it again.] > >I do not know George Shrader's relationship. There is a George Shrader on >the 1820 VA census index as on page 35A of Amherst Co. > > >I have two sources for Rutherford cemetery records, that differ somewhat. > >Stones River Chapter SAR & Rutherford Co Hist Soc, Rutherford Co, TN >Cemeteries, Vol. 1, Northwest Third of County (1985 or 1975?) >p132 Ward Cemetery on Walter Hill Quadrangle > Sarah S Nevill, mother of Sarah A Ward, d 21 Feb 1882 > Sarah Ann Agnes Nevil Ward, wf of Best Ward, 6 Nov 1820-June 1910 > > >Rutherford Co Hist Soc, Publication No 8, Winter 1977 >p62 Ward Cemetery, edge of Florence > [Most people buried here were members of Bethel Church] > 1. Sara Ann Agnes Shreader Neville > 2. Best Ward d ae 24 > 3. Mrs Jarrell, dau of Sarah Ann Agnes Nevill > 4. Letitia Neville, d as a young lady > 10. Sara Ann Agnes Nevile Ward, b 1819, d ae 91 > > >NOTE that Sarah Ward's birth would be consistent with an 1818 Amherst Co >VA marriage of James Nevill & Sarah Shrader, > > >The Colonial Hardy Murfree Chapter DAR, Rutherford Co TN Marriage Records >1804-1850 >p22 > Cain, George & Elizabeth Nevils, 18 Dec 1829 >p23 > Parker, Phillip & Anne Nevil, 19 Nov 1829 >p36 > Ward, Best & Sarah Ann Nevil, 25 Sept 1838 >p53 > Jarrell, Edmond T & Emeline E Nevill, 9 Jly 1844 > > >Porch, Deane, 1850 Census of Rutherford Co, TN (1967) >p20 9 Sept > 223 Thomas G Nevil, 44, m, farming, VA > Elizabeth, 29, f, VA > Mary A, 9, f TN, sch > Caroline, 6, f, TN, sch > Elizabeth, 3, f, TN > Catharine, 10/12, f, TN > William H Hagar, 31, m, blacksmith, VA > Elizabeth Hagar, 57, f, VA >p36 > 263 George I Cain, 50, m, farming, VA > Elizabeth, 46, f, VA, can't r/w > ... > Reubin J, 10, m, TN >p52 > 378 Best Ward, 42, m, farmer, 3000, NC > Sarah A A. 30, f, VA > Jas, 10, m, TN, sch > ... > Emeline E, 2 f, TN >p59 > 424 Jno Nevil, 31, m, carpenter, TN > Mary A, 25, f, TN > Jas, 2, m, TN > infant, 3/12, f, TN > Saml Hope, 18, m, carpetner, TN > Richard, 24, m, carpenter, TN > 425 SARAH A NEVIL, 50, f, VA > Emeline E Jarrell, 28, f, VA > Mary E, 4, f, TN > Sarah E, 2, f, TN > George A, 7/12, f[sic], TN > >Note that Sarah A Nevil was born ca 1800 in VA and Sarah A A Ward was >born ca 1820 in VA. So, if this was the Sarah Shrader who m James Nevil >gives some idea of her age at least. John Nevil who lived next door was >born ca 1829 in TN. Davidson Co TN marriages show a license but not >return of John J Nevels to Mary Ann Hope 13 Apr 1848. > > >WPA, Tennessee Records of Rutherford County Wills, Settlements & >Inventories, Vol. 8, 1830-1832 (1938) >p141 > Inventory of the estate of James Nevils deceased, sold by Walter >Keeble administrator etc. on the 28th of Nov. 1830 - > The purchasers included Reuben Nevils, Mrs. Nevil (widow), Thomas >Nevil > >Note that the first name of the widow is not mentioned. The 1840 census >of Rutherford Co, TN does have a female Sarah however who appears to be a >widow. > SARAH NEVIL, 0 males, 1 f 15-20, 1 f 40-50 > >Anyway, for those trying to sort these families out, several different TN >counties need to be examined. > >Shirley Wilcox > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried the Neville Query List on GenForum? >http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/neville > >

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Re: The Solomon Neville, b. 1808 of Chapel Hill, N.C. I have a copy of a letter that his great-grandson, Shackelford Miller Jr. (b. 1892 ) wrote on July 17, 1959. In it, he wrote that Solomon "was in the tobacco business and moved from Chapel Hill, N.C. to Louisville, Kentucky, where he had a tobacco factory, operated largely by slaves. Following the emancipation of the slaves, he moved to Rockport, Indiana, about 1863. A daughter, Barbara Ann Neville (his grandmother) married John Miller, and they were parents of Shackelford Miller (his father) who was born February 29, 1856." Other information about descendants of Barbara is included in the letter. One other reference I found: a Drury Nevill is shown on records in connection with army pay, 1781-1785. (N.C. Col. State Recs. l7-236.) Ruth Kathy Duncan/Peter Selph wrote: > > Jan: > > You lured me out of the woodwork!! Not fair, I'm sick. > > Couple of comments from me. First, I'm not convinced that > Solomon Nevill Sr. was named Solomon CORBIN Nevill. I have > never seen his name this way in a primary source. I have > not even seen a middle initial C. for him that I remember. > I think the assumption has been made that he was Sr. and > Solomon Corbin Nevill was Jr. I'm thinking that 1777 was too > early for the common usage of middle names. Can any one shed > any light on that? Jeanne Barton, what do you think? I think > the Corbin name was added with Jr.'s generation. > > My gut feeling is that Drury A. Neville was a Drury Allen Neville. > That's a favorite name among the early Allens. If he is a son > of John Sims Neville, then I'd look for John's mystery wife to > have an Allen connection since I do not know of any up the > Neville-Walton-Sims line. > > Also Barbara "Heston" Neville's name was most likely Barbara > Hester Neville, named after her maternal grandmother Barbara > (Hester) Walton. That Heston clue led me astray since 1984. She > married Needham B. Farrier. > > I have Annette Travis as Granderson (Grandison) Neville's THIRD > wife. His first was Minerva Peterson who married as her second > husband Meredith Howard. They had a long marriage and many children! > > Kathy > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? > http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm