At 11:20 AM 09/03/99 -0500, Paddy wrote: >A couple of things you mention are of interest to me and perhaps you >could answer a couple of questions I have: >>... >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> Husband : James NEVILLS >> Birth: Abt 1748 Place : NC? >> Marr : Abt 1779 Place : Sussex Co., NJ >> Death: May 1811 Place : Thorold Twp.,Ont. >> Bur. : Allanburg, Ont. Place : Lot 95 (unmarked) >> Residence : NJ//Stamford Twp Lots 80/81; Thorold Twp Lot 116 >> Occupation : School Teacher/ Surveyors Asst/ Farmer > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >My Thomas NEVILL s/o Moses was also a Surveyors Assistant. Where did you >get the information that James was as well? I have a personal letter dated 14 Oct 1979 from a guy serious Ontario researchers have come to rely upon, Thomas B Wilson, publisher of the "Ontario Register". In his capacity as one of the trustees of The Genealogical Society of New Jersey he writes, "Further corroboration of this being the general area of James' place of residence in the 1780's is found in a SURVEY RETURN [capital's mine] dated 2 Sept 1785 for land in (old) Newton Township [Sussex County] on Laurel Brook, a branch of the Papacoting. James assisted in laying out the metes and bounds." He goes on to speculate about Eve's actual last name (as I have done), etc, but the above is my answer to your question. > >> Religion : German Reform/ Wesleyan Methodist >> Military Rec. : Loyalist; attempted an escape to England >> - Jailed NY, 1776 - May, 1777 > >Do you have a land petition for James NEVILLS of Stamford that outlines >his loyalist activities? This one is tougher and falls partly into the area that you dislike a lot - speculation. Wilson asked the same question and the answer remains the same: NO, I have never found such a document. BUT what do we know? We know that in 1796 the signature of James Nevills (as spelled) appears on a document written by Judge Nathaniel Pettit, younger brother of my 6x great grandfather on my FATHER's side, the gist of which is as follows: "To His Excellency Peter Russel, Esq. administrating the Government and Commander-in-chief in and over His Majesty's Province of Upper Canada, &c. &c. The Petition of the Subscribers Humbly Sheweth: That your petitioners were formerly inhabitants of the now United States of America and in the time of the late Revolution by his most Gracious Majesty declared to be in a state of Rebellion, which to them was a grief and vexation, and, as they were ever faithful Loyalists and never bore arms against His Majesty and as soon as in their power, after the treaty of separation, removed themselves and families into this Province... we most humbly pray that your Excellency will Grant us such relief ... as you in your wisdom, may conceive our unhappy circumstances merit, and that we may obtain the agreeable protection and benefit of the above proclamation... Newark, 12th October, 1796 [signed, and here I will only list those heads of households directly connected in some way with my family, but that happens to be almost half of them:] Nathl. Pettit, Adam Green, John Willson, Leonard Muisener, Jonathan Pettit, Andrew Pettit, Joshua Robins, Charles Pettit, John Pettit, Thos. Matthews, John Silverthorn, Henry Chrysler, William Man[n], Jeremiah London [probably Landon], James Nevills, Alex Markle, Gershom Carpenter, Joseph Corwin, John Davis, Robt. Davis, Thos. Davis, John Green" For a long time it bothered me that James Nevills never formally applied for UEL status, that is, until I read the transcripts of his son-in-law's (AND his daughter-in law's) father, Andrew OSTRANDER Sr's attempts to do just that. Andress was denied because he chose two years of servitude to an American officer over his other option, the forfeiture of his life, when he was caught trying to escape while being held prisoner at Fort Bennington (and this was of his own self-incriminating confession). I think James was just happy to get the hand-held deed for "free" land. He knew that he had taken and signed the Patriot oath to get himself out of jail. He probably wasn't proud of what he had done any more than his cell-mate, George Rapalje, (25 years later a pioneer in the Long Point Settlement) who's reluctance to sign was actually recorded. The service record of all of his sons except his youngest (who was too young to serve) speaks for itself. Incidentally, Jacob, his third son signed a petition 14 Jul, 1849 with wording MUCH stronger than the above, denouncing McKenzie's Rebellion and the then Whig government's soft treatment of the rebels and proposing the formation of a new Loyalist association. I've rambled on enough. Paul Bingle Brampton, Ontario, CANADA E-mail: [email protected]

Shirley, I got a faxed copy that I wasn't able to read. A hard copy is being snail mailed to me. I'll post it as soon as possible. Peter -------------Reply Seperator---------------- X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 17:46:28 -0500 From: Shirley L Wilcox <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Edward of MD Peter, Did you ever get a copy of the letter Nonette Swedberg has that Wilson Neville wrote? In looking though old posts I see you asked when Harford was formed from Baltimore. The year was 1773. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ______________________________

Paul: A couple of things you mention are of interest to me and perhaps you could answer a couple of questions I have: > > Family Group Record 09 Mar 1999 > Paul L Bingle > 26 Cumbrian Court > Brampton, ON L6X 2J8 > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Husband : James NEVILLS > Birth: Abt 1748 Place : NC? > Marr : Abt 1779 Place : Sussex Co., NJ > Death: May 1811 Place : Thorold Twp.,Ont. > Bur. : Allanburg, Ont. Place : Lot 95 (unmarked) > Residence : NJ//Stamford Twp Lots 80/81; Thorold Twp Lot 116 > Occupation : School Teacher/ Surveyors Asst/ Farmer ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My Thomas NEVILL s/o Moses was also a Surveyors Assistant. Where did you get the information that James was as well? > Religion : German Reform/ Wesleyan Methodist > Military Rec. : Loyalist; attempted an escape to England > - Jailed NY, 1776 - May, 1777 Do you have a land petition for James NEVILLS of Stamford that outlines his loyalist activities? Thanks, Paddy

At 12:21 PM 07/03/99 -0500, Shirley Wilcox wrote: >Would someone be kind enough to post a family group sheet for James & Eve >DeShired Nevill? I am trying to sort some things out & can't find a group >sheet for them. The Family Group Sheet, below, departs from the one that was given to me about 18 years ago in several places. Researchers of this line have been guilty of more than a few "extrapolations" over the years (There is NO WAY Eve died in 1828!) and so, not entirely without trepidation on my part, some "refinements" have been made, but, hey, I live here. This really doesn't answer questions relating to "surname associations", NEVILLS/SWAZIE, NEVILLS/DAVIS, DAVIS/GREEN, WARNER/OSTRANDER, NEVILLS/FORTNER, and a whole bunch more. Friends, bondsmen, attorneys, witnesses, next-door neighbours, fellow churchmembers, previous and subsequent landowners - these are the people that don't get accounted for on Family Group sheets. And yet, in our pursuit of the next earlier generation THESE are the one's we need to get to know. A tantalizing connundrum - Why was James & Eve's son, William Pew, taking off in 1849 from his home in Binbrook (where 3 of his children were to die of diptheria that November) to Mt. Brydges (10 miles west of London and 130 miles away) when the only Nevills living in that village, Ms Cornelia Nevills, an elderly woman, is someone whom none of us claim as an ancestor? Why did Pamela let her husband be buried down there? Who paid for his headstone? Who were the young wards of Cornelia, the Schedgell children? (These children may provide a link to the other Ontario NEVILLS branch I alluded to in an earlier post.) Ain't this fun?!! Family Group Record 09 Mar 1999 Paul L Bingle 26 Cumbrian Court Brampton, ON L6X 2J8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Husband : James NEVILLS Birth: Abt 1748 Place : NC? Marr : Abt 1779 Place : Sussex Co., NJ Death: May 1811 Place : Thorold Twp.,Ont. Bur. : Allanburg, Ont. Place : Lot 95 (unmarked) Residence : NJ//Stamford Twp Lots 80/81; Thorold Twp Lot 116 Occupation : School Teacher/ Surveyors Asst/ Farmer Religion : German Reform/ Wesleyan Methodist Military Rec. : Loyalist; attempted an escape to England - Jailed NY, 1776 - May, 1777 Other Wives : None Father : Thomas? NEVELS Mother : UNKNOWN Wife : Eve DESHIERAUD Birth: Abt 1758 Place : NJ? New Rochelle,NY? Death: Abt 1817 Place : Thorold Twp.,Ont. Bur. : Allanburg, Ont. Place : Lot 95 (unmarked) Other husbands : None Father : Mother : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Children : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Abraham NEVILLS Birth: 27 Feb 1780 Place : Sussex Co., NJ Marr : 02 Jun 1802 Place : Stamford Twp, Ont. Death: 29 Nov 1838 Place : Caistor Twp, Ont. Bur. : Caistor Twp. Place : Concess 2 Lot 4 Spouse: Deborah OSTRANDER; 12 children - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Isaac NEVILLS/NEVELS Birth: 15 Mar 1782 Place : Sussex Co., NJ Marr : Place : Stamford Twp, Ont. Death: 19 Jul 1852 Place : Stamford Twp, Ont. Bur. : Niagara Falls Place : Drummond Hill Presbyterian Spouse 1 : UNKNOWN; 3 children Spouse 2 : Rachel PEW; 3 children - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rebeccah NEVILLS Birth: Abt 1783 Place : Sussex Co., NJ Marr : Place : Death: Place : Bur. : Place : Spouse : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jacob NEVILLS Birth: 1785 Place : Sussex Co., NJ Marr : Place : Death: Place : West Flamboro Twp., Ont. Bur. : Place : Spouse : Nancy UNKNOWN; 10 children - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Andrew NEVILLS Birth: 1787 Place : Sussex Co., NJ Marr : Abt 1807 Place : Stamford Twp., Ont. Death: Place : Bur. : Place : Spouse : UNKNOWN; 2+ children - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Agnes Nancy NEVILLS Birth: 1792 Place : Stamford Twp., Ont. Marr : Abt 1816 Place : Death: 17 Jan 1866 Place : Bur. : Niagara Falls Place : Red Meeting House (Methodist) Spouse : Andrew Jr OSTRANDER; 9 children - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - James Jr NEVILLS Birth: Abt 1794 Place : Stamford Twp., Ont. Marr : 05 Jan 1831 Place : Queenston, Ont. Death: Place : Thorold Twp., Ont. Bur. : Place : Spouse : Mary WILKERSON; 3+ children - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Phebe NEVILLS Birth: 1796? Place : Stamford Twp., Ont. Marr : Place : Death: 1869? Place : Bur. : Place : Spouse : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - William Pew NEVILLS Birth: Abt 1798 Place : Stamford Twp., Ont. Marr : 18 Aug 1834 Place : St Andrews, Grimsby, Ont. Death: Nov 1849 Place : Mt. Brydges, Ont. Bur. : Mt. Brydges Place : Spouse : Pamela DAVIS; 7 children - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Paul Bingle Brampton, Ontario, CANADA E-mail: [email protected]

Here's some info on what I know about Enoch NEAVILLE. ENOCH NEAVILLE'S AGE Enoch was born sometime between 1765 and 1770. We know this because (1) the 1810 census for Wayne County, Kentucky, lists him as between the ages of 26 and 45 which means he could have been born no earlier than around 1765 and no later than 1784; and (2) the 1830 census for Wayne County, Illinois, lists him as between 60 and 70 years old which places his birth sometime after 1760 and sometime before 1770. ENOCH NEAVILLE'S BIRTHPLACE The only sources I have seen that indicate where Enoch may have been born are the Wayne County, Illinois, census records. The 1870 census lists Andrew J. Neavils (Enoch's son) / age 59 / born in Illinois / father born in Tennessee / mother born in South Carolina. Tennessee may indeed be the correct birthplace for Enoch as the earliest record I am aware of that mentions Enoch is the Knox County, Tennessee, tax list for 1796. In 1796, Enoch would have been between the ages of 26 and 31. ENOCH NEAVILLE'S MIGRATION Enoch must have left Tennessee sometime between 1796 and 1804 since he appears in various Kentucky records between 1804 and 1817. The majority of info at this time is in Wayne County, Kentucky, with a couple of records from nearby Pulaski County, and one in Adair County. Here's a timeline: 1804 Enoch purchases 76 acres in Wayne County, KY 1806 Enoch purchases 200 acres in Pulaski County, KY 1810 Enoch on census for Wayne County, KY 1811 Enoch's daughter, Anna, is married in February in Pulaski County 1811 Enoch and Barsheba Neavill sell 76 acres of land to Henry Thomas in August 1811 Enoch is surety for marriage of James Neavill and Marian Dodson in September in Wayne County, KY 1816 Enoch marries Edith Goodman in Adair County, KY 1817 Enoch Neavill was Capt of 90th Mil Dist, Wayne County, KY After 1817, Enoch disappears from Wayne County, Kentucky. In 1818, he appears on the White County, Illinois, census (part of White County later became Wayne County). In 1820, 1830 and 1840 he appears on the Wayne County, Illinois, censuses. Following are various sources for this info. ************ An Searching (genealogy quarterly) index. 1977, p. 138: Enoch Nevill on Delinquent Tax List, Knox Co., Tenn. 1796 (Captain Mannefee's Co.). The following names on tax lists copied from card file in TN State Library and Archives. TN Tax Lists: Enoch Nevill, 1796, Knox Co., p. 29 ************ Land Grants South of Green River [Kentucky] Master Index Survey # 05482 Nevell, Enoch 76 [acres] 116 [Wayne Co.] 01/11/1804 [survey date] 5 148-149 [grant book & page] [Grantee or Heirs] Same Survey # 10009 Nevell, George 150 [acres] 116 [Wayne Co.] 02/28/1809 [survey date] 8 322-323 [grant book & page] [Grantee or Heirs] Walker, Wm. Survey # 10916 Nevell, James 50 [acres] 116 [Wayne Co.] 09/09/1807 [survey date] 13 36 [grant book & page] [Grantee or Heirs] Burnett, Sham ************ THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS, Volume 1, Part 1 CHAPTER IV GRANTS SOUTH OF GREEN RIVER (1797-1866) THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY page 378 Grantee: Neavill, Enoch Acres: 200 Book: 13 Page: 342 Date Survey: 12-8-1806 County: Pulaski Watercourse: Goose Cr ************ WAYNE COUNTY, KENTUCKY 1810 CENSUS p. 355 Enoch NAVALLS 2wm -10 3wf -10 1wf 10-16 1wm 16-26 1wf 16-26 1wm 26-45 1wf 26-45 ************ PULASKI COUNTY MARRIAGE RECORDS BOOK I, 1799-1850 - Pulaski Co. Historical Soc. 25 Feb. 1811 Wm. S. Hammonds & Anna NEVILL. Stephen Sayers, surety. Enoch NEVILL, bride's father. ************ WAYNE COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGES AND VITAL RECORDS, 1801-1860 vol.2 - Bork NEVILL, James and Marion (Maryann) Dodson. Surety, Enoch NEVILLE. Bond dated 17 September, married 20 September 1810 by Richard Barrier. Endorsement on Bond: "Parents of both parties present and consented". ************ WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B., 1811 Aug 15 Recorded: 19 Aug 1811 page 2-4 Indenture: ENOCH NEVIL & BARSHEBA NEVIL of Wayne to Henry Thomas of same.. $700 for 76 acres being a tract Granted to ENOCH by the Commonwealth of Kentucky by Patent from the Registers Office dated 5 Nov 1808 on Big Sinking.. Beg. on S. side of Big Sinking Creek at a sugar tree & black walnut.. William Beaty's line.. Jesse Dodson's line.. McCulluck's line.. /s/ ENOCH (x) NEAVILL, BARSHEBA (x) NEAVIL Wit: Rodes Garth, William Walker ************ ENOCH NEVILLE married EDITH GOODMAN on February 26 1816 in Adair County, Kentucky ************ WAYNE COUNTY, KENTUCKY, 1817 Enoch Neavill was Capt of 90th Mil Dist Wayne Co (tax purposes) ************ ILLINOIS CENSUS RETURNS 1820 WAYNE COUNTY Free white inhabitance: Enoch Nevils Free white Males under 21: 1 Free white Males of 21 & upwards: 1 Free white females under 21: 3 Free white females of 21 & upwards: 1 ************ WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book D, 1821 Aug 11 Recorded 30 Aug 1821 page 269-270 Indenture: Leonard Dodson & Mary his wife to JAMES NEVELL.. $400 for 100 acres by Survey on Big Sinking... Beg. at the mouth of Dodsons fork at a walnut & a conditional line... /s/s Leonard Dodson, Mary Dodson who relinq. dower. ************ WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book D, 1827 Sep 20 Recorded: 24 Sep 1828 page 370 Indenture: JAMES NEAVILL & wife MARIAM to Mastin Durham ... $175 for 100 acres by Survey on Big Sinking... Beg. at mouth of Dodson's Fork at a walnut on a conditional line.. on Wm. Mitchell's line.. with all woods, ways, waters, fences, trees, orchards, houses... /s/ JAMES NEAVILL, MARIAM NEAVILL who relinq. dower.. Wit: Stockton Dodson, Leonard Dodson. ************ 1830 FEDERAL CENSUS, WAYNE COUNTY, ILLINOIS Enoch Nevil 1 male 5-10 years old 1 male 10-15 years old 1 male 15-20 years old 1 male 60-70 years old 1 female under 5 years old 1 female 10-15 years old 1 female 40-50 years old

Ryan, You have a great chronology of Enoch. I can even see where it could be possible that Enoch could be the father of my George W. Nevels (b. 1814). I saw a reference to George being from Russell (Co.?)which is next to Adair Co. I have never seen anything to indicate that George W. went to Ill. If so, he must have returned to Wayne Co. to marry Abbie Tucker (dau. of Moses) in 1834. That would still fit. Hmmm... Oh yes, Sinking Creek is the area where George W. lived in Wayne Co. Perhaps near the town of Delta. Thanks. Bill >From: "Ryan D. Neaveill" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NEVILLE-L] info on Enoch Neaville >Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 08:18:06 -0600 > >Here's some info on what I know about Enoch NEAVILLE. > >ENOCH NEAVILLE'S AGE > >Enoch was born sometime between 1765 and 1770. We know this because (1) >the 1810 census for Wayne County, Kentucky, lists him as between the >ages of 26 and 45 which means he could have been born no earlier than >around 1765 and no later than 1784; and (2) the 1830 census for Wayne >County, Illinois, lists him as between 60 and 70 years old which places >his birth sometime after 1760 and sometime before 1770. > >ENOCH NEAVILLE'S BIRTHPLACE > >The only sources I have seen that indicate where Enoch may have been >born are the Wayne County, Illinois, census records. The 1870 census >lists Andrew J. Neavils (Enoch's son) / age 59 / born in Illinois / >father born in Tennessee / mother born in South Carolina. Tennessee may >indeed be the correct birthplace for Enoch as the earliest record I am >aware of that mentions Enoch is the Knox County, Tennessee, tax list for >1796. In 1796, Enoch would have been between the ages of 26 and 31. > >ENOCH NEAVILLE'S MIGRATION > >Enoch must have left Tennessee sometime between 1796 and 1804 since he >appears in various Kentucky records between 1804 and 1817. The majority >of info at this time is in Wayne County, Kentucky, with a couple of >records from nearby Pulaski County, and one in Adair County. Here's a >timeline: > >1804 Enoch purchases 76 acres in Wayne County, KY > >1806 Enoch purchases 200 acres in Pulaski County, KY > >1810 Enoch on census for Wayne County, KY > >1811 Enoch's daughter, Anna, is married in February in Pulaski County > >1811 Enoch and Barsheba Neavill sell 76 acres of land to Henry Thomas in >August > >1811 Enoch is surety for marriage of James Neavill and Marian Dodson in >September in Wayne County, KY > >1816 Enoch marries Edith Goodman in Adair County, KY > >1817 Enoch Neavill was Capt of 90th Mil Dist, Wayne County, KY > >After 1817, Enoch disappears from Wayne County, Kentucky. In 1818, he >appears on the White County, Illinois, census (part of White County >later became Wayne County). In 1820, 1830 and 1840 he appears on the >Wayne County, Illinois, censuses. > >Following are various sources for this info. > > >************ > >An Searching (genealogy quarterly) index. 1977, p. 138: Enoch Nevill on > >Delinquent Tax List, Knox Co., Tenn. 1796 (Captain Mannefee's Co.). > >The following names on tax lists copied from card file in TN State >Library >and Archives. > >TN Tax Lists: > >Enoch Nevill, 1796, Knox Co., p. 29 > > >************ > >Land Grants South of Green River [Kentucky] Master Index > >Survey # 05482 Nevell, Enoch 76 [acres] 116 [Wayne Co.] >01/11/1804 [survey date] 5 148-149 [grant book & page] >[Grantee or Heirs] Same > >Survey # 10009 Nevell, George 150 [acres] 116 [Wayne Co.] >02/28/1809 [survey date] 8 322-323 [grant book & page] >[Grantee or Heirs] Walker, Wm. > >Survey # 10916 Nevell, James 50 [acres] 116 [Wayne Co.] >09/09/1807 [survey date] 13 36 [grant book & page] >[Grantee or Heirs] Burnett, Sham > >************ > >THE KENTUCKY LAND GRANTS, Volume 1, Part 1 >CHAPTER IV GRANTS SOUTH OF GREEN RIVER (1797-1866) >THE COUNTIES OF KENTUCKY >page 378 >Grantee: Neavill, Enoch >Acres: 200 >Book: 13 >Page: 342 >Date Survey: 12-8-1806 >County: Pulaski >Watercourse: Goose Cr > >************ > >WAYNE COUNTY, KENTUCKY 1810 CENSUS >p. 355 > >Enoch NAVALLS >2wm -10 >3wf -10 >1wf 10-16 >1wm 16-26 >1wf 16-26 >1wm 26-45 >1wf 26-45 > >************ > >PULASKI COUNTY MARRIAGE RECORDS BOOK I, 1799-1850 - Pulaski Co. >Historical Soc. > >25 Feb. 1811 Wm. S. Hammonds & Anna NEVILL. Stephen Sayers, surety. >Enoch NEVILL, bride's father. > >************ > >WAYNE COUNTY, KENTUCKY MARRIAGES AND VITAL RECORDS, 1801-1860 vol.2 - >Bork > >NEVILL, James and Marion (Maryann) Dodson. Surety, Enoch NEVILLE. Bond >dated 17 September, married 20 September 1810 by Richard Barrier. >Endorsement on Bond: "Parents of both parties present and consented". > >************ > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book B., 1811 Aug 15 >Recorded: 19 Aug 1811 >page 2-4 > >Indenture: ENOCH NEVIL & BARSHEBA NEVIL of Wayne to Henry Thomas of >same.. $700 for 76 acres being a tract Granted to ENOCH by the >Commonwealth of Kentucky by Patent from the Registers Office dated 5 Nov >1808 on Big Sinking.. Beg. on S. side of Big Sinking Creek at a sugar >tree & black walnut.. William Beaty's line.. Jesse Dodson's line.. >McCulluck's line.. >/s/ ENOCH (x) NEAVILL, BARSHEBA (x) NEAVIL Wit: Rodes Garth, William >Walker > >************ > >ENOCH NEVILLE married EDITH GOODMAN on February 26 1816 in Adair County, >Kentucky > >************ > >WAYNE COUNTY, KENTUCKY, 1817 >Enoch Neavill was Capt of 90th Mil Dist Wayne Co (tax purposes) > >************ > >ILLINOIS CENSUS RETURNS 1820 >WAYNE COUNTY >Free white inhabitance: Enoch Nevils >Free white Males under 21: 1 >Free white Males of 21 & upwards: 1 >Free white females under 21: 3 >Free white females of 21 & upwards: 1 > >************ > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book D, 1821 Aug 11 >Recorded 30 Aug 1821 >page 269-270 > >Indenture: Leonard Dodson & Mary his wife to JAMES NEVELL.. $400 for >100 acres by Survey on Big Sinking... Beg. at the mouth of Dodsons fork >at a walnut & a conditional line... /s/s Leonard Dodson, Mary Dodson who > >relinq. dower. > >************ > >WAYNE CO. KY, Deed Book D, 1827 Sep 20 >Recorded: 24 Sep 1828 >page 370 > >Indenture: JAMES NEAVILL & wife MARIAM to Mastin Durham ... $175 for >100 acres by Survey on Big Sinking... Beg. at mouth of Dodson's Fork at >a walnut on a conditional line.. on Wm. Mitchell's line.. with all >woods, >ways, waters, fences, trees, orchards, houses... /s/ JAMES NEAVILL, >MARIAM >NEAVILL who relinq. dower.. Wit: Stockton Dodson, Leonard Dodson. > >************ > >1830 FEDERAL CENSUS, WAYNE COUNTY, ILLINOIS > >Enoch Nevil >1 male 5-10 years old >1 male 10-15 years old >1 male 15-20 years old >1 male 60-70 years old >1 female under 5 years old >1 female 10-15 years old >1 female 40-50 years old > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? >http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Jan, James & Dorothy (Moorman) Nevil had a son Robert Lafayette, shown as Robert L on the 1850 census. He supposedly was a Confederate in the CW. Maybe he is the Lafayette, MS soldier, going by his middle name. A J Lewis & wife Dorotha are on page 189 of the 1850 Tuscaloosa Co, AL census. With them are Nevels children Zachariah 14, Ann 15, Roberta 12 & Robert L 10. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

BARBARA A MCNAMER wrote: > " I remember Ryan did find a reference to a ship in a > biography of one of the IL Neavills and the ship was also associated > with > the Neufville group, but I did not realize he had established an > actual link > between the two groups. I may have missed some of the discussion. > " > > >From foggy memory, the article was from Wayne Co, IL and said the > Neavill's of that county were related to the guys of the ship. And > Enoch was the only Neavill in that county. I guess we are still > assuming that George (of Effingham Co IL) and Enoch (of Wayne Co, IL) > were related and possibly brothers. Ryan, help me explain it?? Here's what I have. In May and June of1918 a series of newspaper articles appeared in the Wayne County Press by William Robert Jones. Jones was the editor of the Yellville, Arkansas, Mountain Echo, though he was a native of Wayne County. In the articles he recorded his remembrances and those of other early inhabitants of the area. The following paragraph is an excerpt from one of these articles: The roster of Virginia and North Carolina show a great number of Harrises who were soldeirs of the Revolution. There was a Robert Harris of North Carolina that was one of the signers of the first Declaration of Independence at Meckleburg. He also lost an arm at Guilford Court House. There was also a Thomas Harris that was captured at Charleston when General Lincoln capitulated in 1780. This Harris was kept prisoner on the British ship, TORBAY, for several months, along with the following men whose relatives finally found their way into Wayne County: Francis Bailey, Jonathon Clark, James Cox, Richard Cummings, Joseph Dunlap, Richard Edwards, Thomas Elliot, Sr., Joseph Elliot, John Evans, Wm. Elliot, Michell George, Lieut. Stephens Lee, George Jones, Philip Meyers, Lieut. Samuel Miller, Lieut. Wm. Harvey, William Graves, David Hamilton, John B. Holmes, William Holmes, Col. Stephen Moore, William Murphey, John Morgan, John Neville, Jr., Wm. Neville, John Owen, Job Palmer, Joseph Robinson, Col. Richard Clough Anderson, John Scott, Sr., John Stephenson, Jr., Daniel Stephenson, Samuel Smith, Stephen Shrewsbury, Lieut. Simeon White, Isaac White, Benjamin Wheeler, John Waters, Jr., William Wilcox, Lieut. John Black, Joseph Ball, John Edwards, and others. Later when I was doing a GenWeb search of the name NEUFVILLE, I found the following page: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/nc+index+4177536670+F This is from the North Carolina State Records. It is a letter from Letter from Stephen Moore and John Barnwell to General N. Greene written from the prison ship FORBAY in Charlestown (Charleston) Harbor on 18 May 1781. It lists the prisoners of the ship including the names that Jones listed in his Wayne County Press articles though many of the names are spelled slightly differently: CLARKE instead of CLARK, COMMIUS instead of CUMMINGS, and NEUFVILLE instead of NEVILLE. The person who edited the online list says: "These were doubtless prisoners mostly of the battle of Camden, Aug, 1780. Those of the two States cannot be separated, but the list is of interest in itself."

Ruth, I don't know anything about this NC family, but there are two possible previous generations in the census. First, Zachariah is living next door to Richard (47) & Sarah (47) Nevill, who are of an age they could be his parents, & living with him is Lydia Nevill (75) who is of an age she could be a grandmother. From the births of Zachariah's children it appears they moved from NC to TN between 1844 and 1848. Shirley Wilcox On Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:19:03 -0600 Ruth Nevels <[email protected]> writes: >Ther is also a Zachariah Nevill in Madison Co, Tennessee in 1850. To >which family does he belong? Ruth > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Ther is also a Zachariah Nevill in Madison Co, Tennessee in 1850. To which family does he belong? Ruth Jan & David Faulkner wrote: > > At 08:48 PM 3/5/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Jan, > > > >Zachariah who m Ann Scott Jefferson was not the one who went to > >Tuscaloosa Co, AL. That Zachariah died 1830 in Nelson Co, VA. He had a > >son James Lewis Nevill who m Dorothy Moorman & it was their son Zachariah > >who m Ann Lewis 1853 in Tuscaloosa, AL. > > > >Shirley > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > Shirley, > > Thank you for the correction about Zach. and Ann Scott Jefferson, their sons > James L. Nevil and Lafayette Nevil, and James L. Nevil's son, Zach. L. > Nevil! I have it right in my notes but got mixed up in my thinking when > writing about Lafayett Nevels found in a MS record for Confederate service. > Afterthoughts are dangerous when I don't check them with sources, too. It's > amazing (awful) how one sentence can have so many errors! > > In the same sentence, I also should not have stated that the family went to > AL from Amherst Co., VA. I don't have information which suggests they were > living in Amherst Co. before they went to AL. Ivan Nevill's book, GENEALOGY > OF THE NEVILL FAMILY, shows that James L. Nevill m. Dorothy Louise Moorman 3 > Oct 1831 in Albemarle Co., VA, and that first child, Zachariah Lewis Nevill, > was born 7 April 1833 in Albemarle Co., while the second child, Ann Caroline > Nevill was born 7 March 1836 in Tuscaloosa, AL. Also, Ivan Nevill shows > that James L. Nevill's estate was settled in Scottsville, Albemarle Co., VA > 1 Jan 1853 by administrator R. L. Jefferson for the years 1844-1852. > > I should have stated the following in my 3/4/99 post: > > >If it [enlistment place of Lafayett Nevels, Co. M, Wood's Regiment, > Confederate Cavalry (1st Regiment Mississippi Cavalry / Wirt Adams' Regiment > Cavalry), Private] is Monroeville, that would be in Alabama, which makes it > plausible that Lafayett Nevil, MS Confedrate soldier, had some connection > with Zach. and Ann Scott Jefferson Nevil and their son James L. Nevil, since > Zach. and Ann had another son named Lafayette b. ca 1818 (birthdate > according to Ivan Nevill's book). James L. Nevil went to AL from perhaps > Albemarle Co., VA. Maybe the Lafayett Nevels who served in a MS company > during the Civil War is the son of Zach. and Ann Scott Jefferson or a > grandson. > > I have more thoughts on the above and on Lafayette Nevil (but will try to > keep them straight <g>). Ivan Nevill shows that Dorothy L. Moorman (b. 1818 > VA - d. 1879 Moundville, AL), who was the wife of Lafayette's brother, James > L. Nevil, married (2) Andrew Jackson Lewis in 1842. He also shows that she > died in Moundville, AL and is buried in the Lewis Cemetery in Moundville. > Thus, on the 1850 AL census, she would have been in a Lewis household. > Maybe Lafayette lived with sister-in-law Dorothy Moorman Nevil Lewis's > family, which would account for his not being found in AL on the 1850 or > 1860 census. Present-day Moundville is just below the Tuscaloosa County > line in Hale Co. but was probably in Tusc. Co. in 1850s. > > The IGI index to 1850 AL shows > Squire Nevels, Tuscaloosa Co. #230 (more on him in a > separate post) > Zachariah Nevels, Tuscaloosa Co. #189 (He would probably be > the son of James L. and Dorothy Moorman Nevil, but I have > not looked at the microfilm to verify this.) > > The IGI index to 1860 census shows > Mary Nevell, Tuscaloosa Co. # 555, Collins Beat (I don't > know who she is) > > I don't have the indexes to the Lewis family in 1850 and 1860 AL census nor > the 1850 and 1860 VA census indexes to check for Lafayette Nevil. > > Zach. Lewis Nevill, son of James L. and Dorothy Moorman Nevil, m. Ann M. > Lewis 8 Nov 1853 in Tuscaloosa, AL and moved to TX before daughter Ellen > Nevill was b. in LaGrange, TX, 29 Sept. 1858 (Source is Ivan Nevill book, > again; I haven't checked these dates). > > Thank you for the reference to Richard Nevil, former slave of Fayette Nevil > and Civil War soldier living in LA, who stated he was from Nelson Co., VA. > That is a good clue! > > Jan > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Neville Heritage Society Home Page: > http://www.prairienet.org/neville/

Milton and Daris, I have been looking for some surname that is linked with both Nevil groups who were in Amherst Co. and finally noticed one today when I was looking at Ivan Nevil's book. It is the Whitehead name. It may be coincidence, but I thought you might be interested if you are trying to find out more about Thomas Nevil's family in Amherst Co., VA. Ivan Nevill's line is shown in his book as follows: James Nevil b. ca 1686; d. 11-9-1752. James is shown to have m. (1) a Widow Keen, but this is probably an error. A James Nevil of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania did marry a Widow Keen, but he was in a different generation than James b. ca 1686. Although the name of James's first wife is not known, he had four Nevil children before he had children by Lucy Thomas, his second wife. One of the 4 known children of the first marriage includes James Nevil, b. 1728 - d. 12-24-1784; m. Mary Lewis. One of their sons was the James Nevil, mistakenly shown to have m. Sally Shrader in 1818 in Amherst Co. Based on Shirley's notes, we can conclude that your James, son of Thomas, is indeed the one who m. Sally Shrader. Another of their sons was Zachariah Nevil who m. 1806 to Ann Scott Jefferson (niece of Thomas Jefferson, according to Ivan Nevill). Zach d. ca. 1830 and his estate was administered in Nelson Co., VA. In his book, Ivan Nevill published the administration bond for the estate of Zach. Nevil. It is found in Will Book D, 1930-1836, Nelson Co., VA. I don't know if the following administration bond indicates an actual family relationship between John Whitehead and Zach. Nevil, but Whitehead was one of the administrators for Zach.' estate. Know all men by these present, that we Jesse Jopling, James L. Nevil, John Whitehead, Reuben R. Patterson, James Woods, Jr. and Willis H. Wills, are held and firmly bound unto Robert Rives, Sam Loving, Alex. Brown and Littleberry N. Dixon, Gentlemen, Justices of the Peace for the County of Nelson, now sitting in court, and their successors, in the just and full sum of thirty thousand dollars, to which payment well and truly to be made to the said Justices, and to their successors, we being ourselves and each of our heirs, executors and administrators, jointly and severally by their presents. Sealed with our seals and dated this 24th day of May 1830. The condition of this obligation is that, if the said Jesse Jopling and James L. Nevil administrators of the goods, chattels and credits of Zachariah Nevil deceased, do make a true and perfect inventory of all and singular the goods, chattels and credits of the said deceased, which have or shall come to the possession or knowledge of them the said Jesse Jopling and James L. Nevil, or in the hands or possession of any other person or persons, for them, and the same, so made, do exhibit into the court of Nelson County, when they shall be thereunto required by the said court; and such goods, chattels and credits do well and truly administer according to law; and further, do make a just and true account of their actings and doings there in, when hereto required by said court, and all the rest of the said goods, chattels and credits, which shall be found upon the account of the said administration the same being first examined and allowed by the Justices of the said Court for the time being, shall deliver and pay unto such persons respectively, as are entitled to the same by law; and it shall hereafter appear that any last will and testament was made by the said deceased, and the same be proved in Court, and the executor obtain a certificate of the probate thereof and the said Jesse Jopling and James L. Nevil, do, in such case, being required, render and deliver up their letters of administration: then this obligation to be void, else to remain in full force. (Signed) Jesse Jopling James L. Nevil John Whitehead Reuben B. Pateson James Woods, Jr. W. H. Wills In a Court held for Nelson County the 24th day of May 1830. This administration bond was executed and acknowledged in Open court, by the parties thereto, and ordered to be recorded. Teste S. Garland Clerk Maybe this will help in some of your future research for Thomas's family in VA. Jan

The following census reference is from AIS (Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc.), not IGI, as I posted earlier: Index to 1850 AL shows Squire Nevels, Tuscaloosa Co. #230 (more on him in a separate post) Zachariah Nevels, Tuscaloosa Co. #189 (He would probably be the son of James L. and Dorothy Moorman Nevil, but I have not looked at the microfilm to verify this.)

The 1830 census AIS index for FL shows: Elisha Neville, Duvall Co., FL 018 No Twp listed At 10:09 PM 3/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >Several people in our research group will recognize their ancestors >below. > > >Virgil D. White, Index to Volunteer Soldiers in Indian Wars & >Disturbances 1815-1858, Vol II, L-Z (Waynesboro, TN: The National >Historical Pub Co, 1994) >p1023 > Neaville, Elihus, Pvt & sgt, srv in Smith's & Hunt's Cos of >Cawlfield's Battn of AL Mtd Vols in the FL War > Neaville, George W, Pvt, srv in Smith's & Hunt's Cos of Cawlfield's >Bttn of AL Mtd Vols in Fl War >p1029

" I remember Ryan did find a reference to a ship in a biography of one of the IL Neavills and the ship was also associated with the Neufville group, but I did not realize he had established an actual link between the two groups. I may have missed some of the discussion. " >From foggy memory, the article was from Wayne Co, IL and said the Neavill's of that county were related to the guys of the ship. And Enoch was the only Neavill in that county. I guess we are still assuming that George (of Effingham Co IL) and Enoch (of Wayne Co, IL) were related and possibly brothers. Ryan, help me explain it?? ____ Barbara

Shirley and others interested in the AL Neville groups, While I was looking at Zach. Nevil who lived in Tuscaloosa, AL and whose family was from Amherst and Albemarle Co., VA, I realized Squire Nevels, a person whom Ruth and I have discussed before, was living in the same county at the same time as Zach. I don't know if there is any relationship between the two but will post some information I have that might help those of you searching AL. 12/14/98 post from me to Arlin Nevels Mathews: Here's what I have in my files on your Monroe Co., GA James Wesley Nevels: The 1832 Gold Lottery of Georgia / Containing a List of the Fortunate Drawers in Said Lottery, pub. by Southern Historical Press, Rev. S. Emmett Lucas, Jr. p. 386, Monroe County: Squire Navels, Butts Militia District, Land Lot No. 965, District 18, Section 3. Family chart compiled in 1983 by Gladys Nevels of Ringgold, GA; forwarded to me by Ruth Nevels of Vicksburg, MS: Walter Brown Nevels, b. 29 July 1918 Colquitt Co., GA son of William Bonnie Nevels, b. April 18, 1891 Terrell Co., GA; d. 1 May, 1961 Mitchell Co., GA; m. Carrie Lillian Williams, b. 30 Nov. 1884 Webster Co., GA; d. 17 Aug. 1961 Mitchell Co., GA. son of William Wesley Nevels, b. Sept. 4, 1864 Stewart Co., GA; d. 25 June, 1951 Colquitt Co., GA; m. 18 Aug. 1889 Mary Lucy Oxford, b. 21 Sept 1872 Terrell Co., GA; d. 21 May 1940 Colquitt Co., GA. son of James Wesley Nevels, b. 3 Oct. 1831 Monroe Co., GA; d. 2 March 1911; m. Mary Jane Bishop, b. 7 July 1832; d. 30 Aug, 1905. Gladys also stated she had found James Wesley Nevels' application for Civil War pension at the state archives and that showed him b. 3 Oct 1831 in Monroe Co., GA. She went on to say that the Monroe Co., GA 1830 census shows only one Nevels: Squire Nevels, b. NC and his wife, both between the ages of 20 and 30 (I don't know where Gladys got the information about Squire being born in NC since that information was not given on the federal census until 1850). In 1840 Squire, his wife, and two male children, one under 5 and one between the ages of 5 and 10, were in Troup Co., GA. In 1850, Squire and his wife, Lotty (b. GA) were living in Tuscaloosa Co., AL with no children in the home. Gladys said that Squire and Lotty may have been the parents of James Wesley Nevels, but she had found no real proof. Perhaps you could check the probate records in Tuscaloosa to see what happened to Squire and/or Lotty's estates when they died. A property division might name children. Since you have found that James Wesley Nevels' father was b. in NC, you have another good clue that Squire may be his father (if Glady's note about Squire's birthplace is correct). ---------------- Post from Arllin Nevels Matthews to Jan Faulkner 12/15/98 Jan: Thanks for your e-mail regarding James Wesley Nevels 1. Yes, Gladys Nevels - Sale City, GA - and I are researching the same Nevels family as follows: 1. Squire Neville/Elizabeth (Lotty ??) 2. James Wesley Nevels 3. William Wesley Nevels [my note-Jan: Gladys' husband's grandfather] 3. Charlie Burton Nevels [my note-Jan: Arlin's grandfather] 2. I found a "strike over" in the family bible entry for James Wesley Nevels.. "John" was originally entered, was marked through, and James entered over the name John... In the 1850 census for Chambers County, AL, Elizabeth Nevels is listed as head of household, with son, James Wesley, age 19. Also, found in Chambers County, AL - marriage bonds for James Wesley and Mary Jane Bishop. (My ggrandparents) This would indicate that James' mother's name was Elizabeth...... 3. 1850 Tuscaloosa County, AL - Squire Nevels - Question ?? If Squire Nevels living in Tuscaloosa County, AL with "Lotty" and Elizabeth Nevels living in Chambers County, AL with son, James Wesley, did Squire and Elizabeth "divorce"? Gladys indicates that Squire Nevels and Lotty are listed on the 1850 Tuscaloosa County, AL census with no children in the hsehold. As Gladys states, we have found no proof that Squire Nevels is the father of James Wesley.... 4. Squire Nevels (b. ca 1800-1810) married a Bishop. Interesting that Squire Nevels and his son (?James Wesley) both married Bishops.... End of post from Arlin Nevels Matthews ---------- Jan

Jane and others, I just realized the reply I sent to Jane went to her private e-mail and not the list. I am reposting it to the list in case some of you see something that might link with information you have which could help Jane. Jan ------------ Jane, Welcome to the Neville List! I have the following reference to a Francis Neville in NC. I have not checked the primary source, and there are discrepancies in the abstracts I found in two different publications. 1725, April 16, FRANCES NEVILL, in NC will names John Collins and Lucy his wife, John Armour, Old Madam Britt. (NC Hist. and Gen. Reg.) (See below 1735 ref. Need to check these sources.) 1735, April 20, FRANCIS NEVILL, in Little Rivers, NC will mentions legatees James Collins and wife Luce; John Armor ("My Bote"). (Grimes' Abstracts of NC Wills) Even though the above Francis Nevill died before your Francis was born, I thought you might be interested in the reference as a possibility for a related Neville family who might have come to this country before yours. I have never found any other NC information about this person and do not know if he was related to any of the other NC/SC groups I have studied. During what time was Samuel going to Charleston? A Joshua Nevill and a John Nevill immigrated from Ireland to Charleston in the late 1700s. They do not appear to be related. Joshua and son Henry were called cabinetmakers (generally same as furniture makers) in Charleston. One descendant has stated that her family story is that Joshua was originally from England. I don't think anyone has verified that yet, but I thought this story also worth mentioning since your Ann Neville m. Hubbard who was a furniture maker. A de Neufville family also lived in Charleston. (Some descendants have spelled the name Neuville and Neville). They were Huguenots, but some of the family lived in England before coming to Charleston. I will look further in my notes to see if I can find a Neville/Cole connection in SC. In American Genealogical-Biographical Index, among the many references to books and publications where Neville/Nevill/Nevil, etc. information can be found are several Neville references related to a genealogy column of Boston Transcript 1906-1941 (newspaper). The column is described as the greatest single source of material for genealogical data of New England area for the period 1600-1800. The AG-BI has a index of the issues and the numbers for the Neville references. Are you familiar with this source? What a good find on the Neville christening information in England! Jan At 10:19 PM 2/26/99 -0800, you wrote: >Seeking information on Francis NEVILLE, b. about 1764, d. 1843 Boston, >MA. Francis m. Sopia COLE who d. 31 May 1813 aged 46. Their children >were William who went to sea and was never heard of again. Samuel >G.,Frank and Sophia, twins and Ann, b. 23 Feb. 1803. Francis NEVILLE was >married twice and it wasthe step-mother that caused the trouble. Pa's >father (Francis) followed him to Charleston and brought him back and he >tied him to a post in the cellar and whipped and the neighbors >interfered and once he tied both boys to a tree and whipped them >severely." These were extracts from a letter from Mrs. Elizabeth Neville >Eldridge. > >This family saga presents several questions. > >1. Charleston is a long way from Boston so what took young boy that >distance. NEVILLE or COLE relatives? > >2. William may not have wanted to return to a cruel father and >step-mother. He might be a William NEVILLE who appeared out of nowhere, >perhaps in the South. > >3. Who was the cruel step-mother? > >Daughter Ann was taken under the wings of a couple from Trinity Church >in Boston and married John Capen HUBBARD who was a very successful >furniture maker in Boston. > >The only clue I have found was a christening of a William NEVILLE in >1800 in London, England, father Francis NEVILLE, mother Sophia. > > Can anyone give a suggestion for solving this mystery? Francis died >in an Almshouse in Boston so there was no will. > > Jane Kennard Gilman > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried the Rootsweb Surname Helper Search Engine? >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/surhelp/srchall.html > >

At 08:48 PM 3/5/99 -0500, you wrote: >Jan, > >Zachariah who m Ann Scott Jefferson was not the one who went to >Tuscaloosa Co, AL. That Zachariah died 1830 in Nelson Co, VA. He had a >son James Lewis Nevill who m Dorothy Moorman & it was their son Zachariah >who m Ann Lewis 1853 in Tuscaloosa, AL. > >Shirley > >___________________________________________________________________ Shirley, Thank you for the correction about Zach. and Ann Scott Jefferson, their sons James L. Nevil and Lafayette Nevil, and James L. Nevil's son, Zach. L. Nevil! I have it right in my notes but got mixed up in my thinking when writing about Lafayett Nevels found in a MS record for Confederate service. Afterthoughts are dangerous when I don't check them with sources, too. It's amazing (awful) how one sentence can have so many errors! In the same sentence, I also should not have stated that the family went to AL from Amherst Co., VA. I don't have information which suggests they were living in Amherst Co. before they went to AL. Ivan Nevill's book, GENEALOGY OF THE NEVILL FAMILY, shows that James L. Nevill m. Dorothy Louise Moorman 3 Oct 1831 in Albemarle Co., VA, and that first child, Zachariah Lewis Nevill, was born 7 April 1833 in Albemarle Co., while the second child, Ann Caroline Nevill was born 7 March 1836 in Tuscaloosa, AL. Also, Ivan Nevill shows that James L. Nevill's estate was settled in Scottsville, Albemarle Co., VA 1 Jan 1853 by administrator R. L. Jefferson for the years 1844-1852. I should have stated the following in my 3/4/99 post: >If it [enlistment place of Lafayett Nevels, Co. M, Wood's Regiment, Confederate Cavalry (1st Regiment Mississippi Cavalry / Wirt Adams' Regiment Cavalry), Private] is Monroeville, that would be in Alabama, which makes it plausible that Lafayett Nevil, MS Confedrate soldier, had some connection with Zach. and Ann Scott Jefferson Nevil and their son James L. Nevil, since Zach. and Ann had another son named Lafayette b. ca 1818 (birthdate according to Ivan Nevill's book). James L. Nevil went to AL from perhaps Albemarle Co., VA. Maybe the Lafayett Nevels who served in a MS company during the Civil War is the son of Zach. and Ann Scott Jefferson or a grandson. I have more thoughts on the above and on Lafayette Nevil (but will try to keep them straight <g>). Ivan Nevill shows that Dorothy L. Moorman (b. 1818 VA - d. 1879 Moundville, AL), who was the wife of Lafayette's brother, James L. Nevil, married (2) Andrew Jackson Lewis in 1842. He also shows that she died in Moundville, AL and is buried in the Lewis Cemetery in Moundville. Thus, on the 1850 AL census, she would have been in a Lewis household. Maybe Lafayette lived with sister-in-law Dorothy Moorman Nevil Lewis's family, which would account for his not being found in AL on the 1850 or 1860 census. Present-day Moundville is just below the Tuscaloosa County line in Hale Co. but was probably in Tusc. Co. in 1850s. The IGI index to 1850 AL shows Squire Nevels, Tuscaloosa Co. #230 (more on him in a separate post) Zachariah Nevels, Tuscaloosa Co. #189 (He would probably be the son of James L. and Dorothy Moorman Nevil, but I have not looked at the microfilm to verify this.) The IGI index to 1860 census shows Mary Nevell, Tuscaloosa Co. # 555, Collins Beat (I don't know who she is) I don't have the indexes to the Lewis family in 1850 and 1860 AL census nor the 1850 and 1860 VA census indexes to check for Lafayette Nevil. Zach. Lewis Nevill, son of James L. and Dorothy Moorman Nevil, m. Ann M. Lewis 8 Nov 1853 in Tuscaloosa, AL and moved to TX before daughter Ellen Nevill was b. in LaGrange, TX, 29 Sept. 1858 (Source is Ivan Nevill book, again; I haven't checked these dates). Thank you for the reference to Richard Nevil, former slave of Fayette Nevil and Civil War soldier living in LA, who stated he was from Nelson Co., VA. That is a good clue! Jan

Jane, If you do not have access to American Genealogical-Biographical Index at your local library, I can scan the Neville/Nevill/Nevil, etc. references related to a genealogy column of Boston Transcript and send them to you in an attached file by private e-mail. I am still looking for SC Neville-Cole references. Coales were associated with the Neville family in northern VA much earlier than the time of Francis. Although it looks like yours came from England much later, you might want to file the following from list member Shirley Wilcox: James Handley Marshall, Abstracts of the Wills and Administrations of Northampton Co., VA 1632-1802 (Camden, ME: Picton Press, 1994). p52 Northampton Orders VIII, No. 8, 1657-64 Hickman, Elizabeth, -28 Dec 1659. An inquest held at house of RICHARD NEVELL could not determine the cause of her death, although bodily injury was apparent. -p58 p60 Deeds, Wills etc. IX No. 7, 1657-1666 NEVELL, RICHARD - 25 Sept 1659/2 Nov 1659. "Entire state to my wife Mary Nevell." Wit: John Coale, George (X) Such, p48 {59} ---------------- Have you tried the Charleston, SC Roots-L list? Someone on it might have information about the SC Coles. I am sorry I can't be of more help. However, I won't forget your Neville-Cole connection and will keep looking. The link sticks in my mind because the Nevels group I am researching in Mississippi lived on Cole's Creek in Jefferson Co. Jan ----------------------------- >Jan, > >All of your suggestions are good ones. Samuel Neville must have run away >to Charleston after his mother Sophia COLE died which was in 1813, at >age 46. Her gravestone in the first burying ground at Dorchester, MA >reads: > "Beneath a harmless mortal sleeps, > Peace to the spot on which she lies, > This grave her precious ashes keep, > Whose soul is blessed above the skies > Her faith was steadfast, her hope was sure > With Christ to dwell forever more." > >Francis NEVILLE was a butcher in Boston. I have not been able to find a >record of his second marriage but as his father and stepmother were >cruel to him perhaps he ran away to Charleston to join members of his >mother's family. > >Also, I cannot find any more information on Samuel G. NEVILLE, Frank >NEVILLE, Sophia NEVILLE (twins) > or William NEVILLE who went to sea. They were all born from about >1795-1803. > >How do I find the references to the genealogy columns in the Boston >Transcript? I thought I looked through everything in the Boston Public >Library and the NEHGS library. Also a staff member at NEHGS spent hours >on this same search and the only helpful information was the fact that >Ann Neville was " taken under the wings" of a couple who were members of >Trinity Church in Boston. It just seems strange that there is so little >to go on. > >Thank you for your help. > >Jane > >

At 09:15 AM 3/5/99 -0500, you wrote: Then Ryan >has info that the Wayne Co KY & IL Neavill's families came from NC >as Neufville's. So, this thread goes from NC to (maybe TN) to KY to >AL? Barbara, Did Ryan actually establish a link between a Neavill group in KY and/or IL and a Neufville group? The Halifax, NC Neville group, to whom I referred in the previous post as possibly related to Nevilles in AL, KY, and/or AR, have never been linked to the Neufvilles. The de Neufvilles of the South originally lived in Charleston, SC before migrating to GA and maybe AL, but I have never seen an actual link between their group and the NC Nevilles (of any spelling). I remember Ryan did find a reference to a ship in a biography of one of the IL Neavills and the ship was also associated with the Neufville group, but I did not realize he had established an actual link between the two groups. I may have missed some of the discussion. Charleston, SC was the scene of quite a bit of action during the Revolution. Presley Neville and his father John Neville (Gen. John of Pittsburg, PA) were prisoners of war in the NC/SC area for a while, so it is possible that an ancestor of the IL Neavills could have been in the same area as the Neufvilles in SC and not be related. Ryan and I did discuss the SC Neufvilles because the IL reference he quoted had a note that the family was French. Did he perhaps find more evidence of a link I missed? The de Neufvilles of SC had a Benj. Marshall Neufville in their family, and this name has intrigued me. The Marshall surname, including a Benj. Marshall, is associated with the Wm. Nevill group of Isle of Wight/Nansemond Co., VA. The Halifax & Orange Co., NC group is likely (but not proven) to have been linked with the Wm. Nevill group and the Marshall group of IOW/Nansemond Co., VA. I suspect the Benj. Nevill name in the IOW/Nansemond Co., VA family came from the link with Benj. Marshall. This tiny clue has led me to speculate before about my "grand" Huguenot immigrant theory and wonder if Wm. of IOW might be connected with other Hugenot immigrants up and down the coast in the 1600s, including the Neufvilles, but I have nothing else to support my idea...yet. Jan

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------795449D91FB7F6AACF7C0ABD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paddy and all, Found this on line in the Ontario court records and picked up on the DAVIS and Orange Co. N.C. connection. When I have time to dig I think I have more. Dave Neville The Court met on June 1, 1829, to consider the claim of Robert Davis on the estate of John Davis. Robert Davis was the son of James Davis. - affidavits to John Robins and Robert Davis re the estate - Court Case re administration of estate of John Davis, who had war losses - Statement by Robert Davis, Walpole Township, Haldimand County, formerly of Orange County, North Carolina, that he owed money to Mary Davis from the estate of John Davis. Dated June 8, 1830. - Claim by Caleb Wood, Windham Township, Norfolk County, for wife, June 8, 1830. - Claim by William Potts, Woodhouse Township, Norfolk County, for wife, June 8, 1830. - Claim by John Cline for his four children, through their late mother, Jane Cline, May 8, 1835. Settlement to: - four children of Mrs. Cline; - three children of Mrs. Matthews; - Mrs. Davis; - Robert Davis; - late Mrs. Derickson and two children; - James Davis; - Ann Bowles; - late Thomas Davis children - dated 1837 - Claim by Pamelia Nevills, Binsbrook Township, Wentworth County, empowering David Davis, Saltfleet Township, as her attorney. Dated June 23, 1838. Witnessed by Elias Pettit. - Claim by William A. Davis and Margaret Rousseau, Barton Township, Wentworth County, son and daughter of the late Thomas Davis. Empowering Thomas Davis, Saltfleet Township. Dated January 4, 1840. Witnessed by Elijah Secord and W.B. Proctor. Listing of Receipts of Shares of Estate Distributed: - Caleb Wood, June 8, 1830, for wife's portion; - William Nott, June 8, 1830, for wife's portion; - Robert Davis, June 8, 1830; - Abraham Mathews, February 21, 1831, for wife's portion; - John Cline, April 16, 1831, for wife's portion; - Uzal Willson, June 16, 1831, for wife's portion; - William Vail, June 14, 1831, for wife's portion; - Ann Stewart, August 25, 1831; - Robert Davis, November 12, 1831; - John Davis, June 9, 1832; - Michael Burkholder, June 9, 1832, for wife's portion; - Joseph B. Rosseau, November 22, 1833, for wife's portion; - William A. Davis, November, 1833; - Robert Davis, December 1, 1834; - Robert Davis, April 15, 1835; - John Cline, for children, May 8, 1835: Peter James; Mary Ann; John William; Eliza Jane; - Job Lodor for James Davis and Ann Bowles of Orange County, North Carolina, May 30, 1835; - Uzal Willson, May 30, 1835; - John Davis, June 30, 1835; - William Potts, January 11, 1836; - Pamelia Nevills, February 12, 1836; - Caleb Wood, February 12, 1836; - Michael Burkholder, February 12, 1836; - for sale of land, Robert Davis, August 2, 1837, per William Wilson; - Abraham Matthews, September 9, 1837, for late wife's children; - Thomas Davis, per John Robins, February 16, 1838; - William Wilson, July 21, 1836; - Louis Sevid, September 8, 1836; - Robert Davis, August 2, 1837; - William Potts, February 7, 1838, for wife, Jane's portion; - Michael Burkholder, February 8, 1838, for wife, Susan Davis, portion; - John Davis, 8 February 1838; - Thomas Davis, 16 February, 1838; - Caleb Wood, 20 February, 1838, for Oisabeth, his wife; - John Cline, 26 February, 1838, for late wife Jane; - Fanny Wilson, daughter of late Thomas Davis, 3 July, 1838; - David Davis, son of late Thomas Davis, and nephew of late John Davis; - Job Lodor for Ann Bowles and James Davis, 3 May, 1838; - Mary Vail, daughter of late Thomas Davis, October 1839; - Ann Stewart, daughter of late Thomas Davis, 2 October, 1839; - Thomas Davis, 11 January, 1840; - James Davis, 25 September, 1840. - Note saying all accounts to John Robins of Mary Davis and estate of her late husband John Davis, 13 January, 1845. INVENTORY A: NOTES - Medcalf and Culver - Millard - Richardson - Robins - William Wilson - no date INVENTORY B: 30 June 1827 by John Robins and William McCool Administrative Accounts of Estate, Listing of Notes: - Henry Medcalf; - Aquillar Millard; - Reuben Richardson; - Abner Owen; - Phillip Yong; - Joseph Wrigley; - Thomas Davis; - Joseph Mathew; - Phillip Bastbinder; - John Robins; - Jacob Langs; - Nathaniel S. Dudley; - John Yong; - William Gorden; - William and John Wilson INVENTORY C: 1 June 1829: - additions - Accounts - blacksmith tools at Jacob Walker sold to James Hunt; - owed by P. Beemer; - owed by J.J. Harris; - owed by Peter Millard; - owed by Samuel Millard; - owed by John McCall Junior; - owed by A. Curtis; - owed by M. Freeman; - owed by Richard Dell; - owed by Sellick. WHERE LINE STOCK WENT: - William Thomas; - Philip Bemer; - Jacob Lang Junior; - Rowan M. Michael; - A. Griffin; - M. Wright; - James Wilson; - Adam P. Thibalt; - J. Pettit; - Adam Thomas; - John Clark. ACCOUNTS: - Henry Medcalf, note due February, 1825; - Joseph Culver, note due February, 1825; - Aquela Millard, note due 1 October, 1827; - Reuben Richardson's note due; - Abner Owen's note; - Philip Young note; - Joseph Wrigley's note; - Thomas Davis note; - Joseph Mashaws note; - Philip Vasbunders note; - John Robins note; - Jacob Lang's note; - Nathaniel Dudley's note; - John Young's note; - William Gordon note; - William and John Wilson. INVENTORY - Jacob Walker - James Kenster - Alex McIntosh - Robert Davis Junior - A. Bemer - Robert Davis ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE: - Richard Dell; - Peter Millard; - Samuel P. Millard; - John McCalph; - William Wilson; - Thomas Finch; - John Clark; - M. Stael; - John Young. PAYMENTS MADE #1: - James Mitchell; - John Elsen; - John Robins; - Henry S. Collins; - F.S. Walsh; - Duncan Campbell; - William Willson; - John Robins; - A.A. Rapelje, Esquire; - J.B. Askin, Esquire; - John Kirkpatrick; - Solomon Walker; - Henry Medcalf; - John Pettit; - Jacob Langs; - Levi Farnsworth; - James Graham, Esquire; - William Potts; - M. Selick; - Nathan Smith; - H. Webster; - Doctor Duncombe; - Henry Walker; - G. Gurnette; - David Marr; - A. Griffin; - Jacob Pettit; - Sarah Wrigley; - Peter Willson; - Philip Vasbinder; - David Marr. PAYMENT RECEIVED FROM: - P. Bemer; - Jacob Lang Junior; - R. McMichael; - ____ Wright; - William Powell; - Joseph Wilson; - Henry Medcalf; - Aquila M. Millard; - Abner Owen; - Joseph Wrigley; - Thomas Davis; - Joseph Mashaw. AMOUNT PAYED BY: - Philip Vasbinder; - John Robins; - Nathaniel Dudley; - William Gordon; - William Willson; - Richard Dell; - Peter Millard; - Samuel Millard; - John M. Cabfer; - Alanding Curtis; - Robert Davis. DEBTS OWED BY DECEASED: - Jared R. Tyler; - Robert Davis. MARY DAVIS ADMINISTRATRIX: - citation to M. Davis; - citation to Robert Davis. 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