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    1. [NEVILLE-L] NEVILL of MD & ON CAN
    2. Paddy Chitty
    3. Hi Paul, Thanks for your recent postings. I have a few comments on a couple of things you said: 1) Your March 9th posting: Mention of Cornelia NEVILLS. I believe there is a good chance Cornelia NEVILL(s) of Caradoc Twp. is mine. John NEVILL s/o Moses NEVILL was living in Southwold Twp. as was Moses. There is an entry in the Ontario Crown Land Record Index which says a John Nevill residence Southwold was given a military land grant in Caradoc Twp. I have not researched this at all. 2) Your Mar 10th posting: re: my connections to the Davis line - I have no definite connection it is just that a Nevill lines in MD that connect with my Mitchell line also connect to Davises and my Mitchells married Nevills and that is the extent of it. I also have another tenuous Davis connection here in ON. That being my great grandfather's sister Maloa DICKHOUT married as her 2nd husband a Truman Hall DAVIS who was from N.Y. but there is that "Hall" thing again. You also mentioned the VanKeuren name. Are you aware of the VanKeuren burial in the Sensabaugh Cemetery in Wainfleet? 3) Your March 11th post: You ask if I said "something about Alston's"? No I did not. That's it for loose ends. Paddy

    03/19/1999 09:37:57
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Cornelia NEVILLS
    2. Hi Paul: After posting my last message to you I noticed something which really has be wondering in light of my saying that Cornelia was probably linked to my John NEVILL s/o Moses. It may be a coincidence that he had land there and she was living there, unless he sold his land to a Nevills relative. This needs to be investigated to see if it is the same land. John's was SE 1/2 of lot 15 in the 3rd. Concession Caradoc Twp. Issued as a Free Military Grant on Nov. 26, 1822. What I found was on pg. 38 of an article entitled The Davis Family which was written by Jim Stengel for The Long Point Settlers Journal, Vol. 3 Number 1, January, 1996. In it he states: "Pamelia Davis, born April 31, 1813, died 10 Jan. 1913. She married William Pew Nevills, born 8 Feb. 1809, died Nov. 19, 1849. She lived at Binbrook and Mount Bryges. 6 children: Margaret Ann; Louisa Elizabeth m John A.****Skedgell;***** Maria; William Alexander m. Esther Swayze; Thomas; Helen; John Davis m. Ellen Swayze." Did Pamelia really live to be in her 100th year? So it looks like this answers the question you posed: "who were the young wards of Cornelia, the Schedgell children? The bigger question now is who was Cornelia and better still who was her husband? Incidently, I read the entry in the 1871 census entry for those living with Cornelia as Skedgell, [possibly] Agness age 32 and Helen age 2. Also living there was James Nevills age 22 and John Henry the hired hand. Paddy

    03/19/1999 02:01:30
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Cornelia NEVILLS
    2. Hi Paul: After posting my last message to you I noticed something which really has be wondering in light of my saying that Cornelia was probably linked to my John NEVILL s/o Moses. It may be a coincidence that he had land there and she was living there, unless he sold his land to a Nevills relative. This needs to be investigated to see if it is the same land. John's was SE 1/2 of lot 15 in the 3rd. Concession Caradoc Twp. Issued as a Free Military Grant on Nov. 26, 1822. What I found was on pg. 38 of an article entitled The Davis Family which was written by Jim Stengel for The Long Point Settlers Journal, Vol. 3 Number 1, January, 1996. In it he states: "Pamelia Davis, born April 31, 1813, died 10 Jan. 1913. She married William Pew Nevills, born 8 Feb. 1809, died Nov. 19, 1849. She lived at Binbrook and Mount Bryges. 6 children: Margaret Ann; Louisa Elizabeth m John A.****Skedgell;***** Maria; William Alexander m. Esther Swayze; Thomas; Helen; John Davis m. Ellen Swayze." Did Pamelia really live to be in her 100th year? So it looks like this answers the question you posed: "who were the young wards of Cornelia, the Schedgell children? The bigger question now is who was Cornelia and better still who was her husband? Incidently, I read the entry in the 1871 census entry for those living with Cornelia as Skedgell, [possibly] Agness age 32 and Helen age 2. Also living there was James Nevills age 22 and John Henry the hired hand. Paddy

    03/19/1999 01:52:31
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Moses & John NEVILL of Harford Co.
    2. Jan, Shirley and anyone else interested, I noticed on the print out of the General Index to Real Estate Conveyances, Etc., Beaufort Co. N.C. - Grantors, that I received from Carmen and sent a copy on to you, Jan, that there was an entry for a Jacob NEVIL, Grantor on March 5, 1758 to Cornelius BELL and another in Dec. 1760 to a Moses NEVILL. What caught my eye, and it likely means nothing, was the Bell entry. In the trip diary of Thomas WELSH when he and the Nevills were on their exodus from Harford, MD. on Sept. 16, 1793, they stopped on that day and "breakfasted at Mr. Bells + Roads Paid 46". This probably means nothing at all but I thought I'd mention it just in case. It just seemed odd that they would stop for breakfast on the morning they left and pay for it. The next day they dined with Joshua GUYTON who was a relative before bunking down for the night in York PA at the Blue Ball. Another thing I noticed in the trip diary and you may want to have a look for yourselves, Jan & Shirley and see what you think (see pg. #1418). The entries here are for weight of baggage. On the inventory for J. NEVILL, along with the charge for the weight of his trunk, irons, sundries and beds is what looks like a weight charge for a Mrs. BURNS and then a charge for screws. Mrs. Burns was charged 16 shillings (I presume). On the goods weighed for Moses NEVILL (pg. 1419) is the same 16 shilling charge for "wife". So, I'm wondering, who the heck is Mrs. BURNS and who was she to John NEVILL? I also notice that on the inventory/weight for Thomas WELSH there is a 15 shilling charge which TW has not named and which I presume was likely for his wife. So who was Mrs. Burns and why wasn't Martha NEVILL on the weight list for John Nevill. Does Mrs. BURNS mean anything to anyone with regard to a Nevill family? I guess this entire posting should have borne the subject: Desperation Observations. Paddy

    03/19/1999 01:14:26
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Cecil Co. Nevilles?
    2. Jan, Shirley, Peter, Gabe, and others, I have gone back over all the material you sent Jan and Shirley, and could not find a quick answer to what has been running through my mind. It is probably contained in the material but I am just not seeing it. Here is my line of thinking and question: Moses NEVILL, my ancestor came to Canada from Harford Co. MD in 1793, in the company of Thomas WELSH and John NEVILL. I do not know what the relationship was between Moses and John but feel it very likely that they are closely related. Moses named his sons Thomas (which could have been for his father-in-law Thomas MITCHELL), Kent (definitely a Mitchell given name) and John (not a Mitchell name). I have pretty much figured out who the 6 children of Moses were. John NEVILL, on the other hand, is pretty much a mystery. A Land Petition by Thomas WELSH says " "Elizabeth Mitchell wife of Moses Nevill has 6 children, Martha wife of John Nevill has 2 children". The petition was dated Dec. 5, 1796. In another Land Petition Welsh states that Ephriam Cole MITCHELL is the eldest child of Martha NEVILL and that he is under 21 and living with Thomas Welsh. I know from later census records that Ephriam was born about 1786. His mother Martha was born 1759 making her 27 when he was born. So I'm thinking that John NEVILL was at least her age or older. That aside, I believe the other child of Martha and John Nevill was Mary NEVILL who was also under the wing of Thomas Welsh and who I know form her tombstone inscription was born 25 Nov. 1789. So, the dates of Ephriam and Mary's births would indicate 1) that Martha Mitchell and John NEVILL were married prior to the 1790 Census of MD and 2) that they should be shown with 2 children on that census. If you have waded through the above and are still with me, my question is: which John NEVILL on the MD Census of 1790 fits the bill of a man with a male under 16 and a female under 16? I only have a couple of pages of the MD census so don't know if there may be John NEVILLs in other areas that could fit the profile. Perhaps if I could figure out which one he is likely to be on the census and see what other Nevills are living close by, then it might be some indication of which family he belongs to. I know that's a lot of "ifs" but ifs are all I have at the moment. Could one of you with the complete printed census have a look if it would not be too much trouble. I have no idea if it is a huge amount of pages to go through but if it is don't go to the trouble, just tell that is the case and I will order in the census microfilm. Thanks. Paddy Thomas WELSH raised Ephriam Cole MITCHELL and at least one daughter who I believe was Mary NEVILL. I also found a Margaret NEVILLE on an 1813 list of school children in Charlotteville Twp. where Thomas WELSH lived so she could also be a possible child of Martha Nevill. So what I don't know for sure is when Thomas WELSH said in his petition that as I know that Moses was not living there at that time. John NEVILL himself stayed in Humberstone Twp. some distance away.

    03/19/1999 01:14:24
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Re: LDS Web Site and Genealogy
    2. Marilyn Georgeson
    3. I receive a newsletter daily about LDS church activities. These two were received today with links to read about the whole story MORE ON CHURCH GENEALOGY ONLINE See http://newsnet.byu.edu/noframes/show_story.cfm?number=9841 A "Computer Genealogy Conference" was held at BYU on Thursday. LDS Church spokesman Dale Bills commented on the Church's plans: "We are committed to creating a service that will significantly enhance people's ability to do (genealogy) research in the privacy of their own homes." As for the possibility of combining with other online services, Bills commented, "The church is open to making family history resources work well for as many people as possible. If that means cooperative work, we may look into it." ===== FAMILY HISTORY IN NEW JERSEY See http://www.bergen.com:80/home/mormon18199903189.htm Thanks to Gems subscriber Sherman Watkins <[email protected]> for this reference from the Bergen (New Jersey) Record. The article examines the focus placed on genealogy and family history by the LDS Church, and the doctrines and beliefs behind the emphasis. The article also mentions the Church's efforts to help non-LDS patrons: "On a recent Wednesday morning, about eight patrons -- all non-Mormons -- were doing research at the Family History Center in the LDS Church in Emerson. Four volunteers were on hand to help with the research. Of those, only Luella Mathusek of Dumont and Marrianne Perkins of Englewood (who is Eric Perkins' mother) are Mormons." Marilyn Georgeson

    03/19/1999 11:33:59
  1. 03/18/1999 05:47:22
    1. Re: [NEVILLE-L] Shirley et al, 17th C MD Nevilles, Nobles and Hartshornes
    2. Shirley L Wilcox
    3. > > Thanks for the encouragement. I've now accumulated quite a few >records > from Queen Anne and Talbot Counties. I'm in the process of >trying to sort > through them and determine the lines. If you're interested, I'd >be happy > to drop off a copy the records on the way home from work one >evening. > That would be great. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    03/17/1999 08:16:13
    1. [NEVILLE-L] NEW LDS WEB SITE
    2. FYI, I am not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter day Saints (Mormons) nor am I a spokesman or apologist for them. I think we genealogists need to put their current problems/delays in bringing up their new website into perspective. Without their efforts creating the IGI, filming thousands of valuable source documents, establishing Family History Centers (Libraries), etc., we would all have a lot more difficulty tracing our ancestors. We should be applauding their efforts; not moaning and groaning because we can't have access to it immediately. Most of us have waited several hundred years to gather our family info, why can't we wait patiently and appreciatively a little while longer? Cheers, Jerry Dalton, Dallas

    03/17/1999 03:12:01
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Shirley et al, 17th C MD Nevilles, Nobles and Hartshornes
    2. Shirley, You wrote: >"Your new (Feb.) expiration of records is great. I have done >very little Talbot or Queen Anne Co research. The 15 June 1694 >Talbot Co. deed of William Neville to Sarah Noble is very >interesting. This is three years before William produced a >certificate (1697) saying he married Sarah Noble in Salem 28 >Oct 1694. Thanks for the encouragement. I've now accumulated quite a few records from Queen Anne and Talbot Counties. I'm in the process of trying to sort through them and determine the lines. If you're interested, I'd be happy to drop off a copy the records on the way home from work one evening. You wrote: >"Rev. Frederick W. Bailey, Early Massachusetts Marriages >Prior to 1800, Third Book (1914, reprinted by GPC 1968 >with the 3 vols bound as one) >Reading [1653-1726] >29 May 1644 Linn Village shall be called Reading p77 >Thomas Hartshorn & Sarah ______, 10 Apr 1661 >p79 >Thomas Hartshorn & Hannah _____, 10 May 1671 Concerning Hartshorn marrying William Neville and Sarah Noble & the marriage being witnessed by Richard Whittman: This is circumstantial at best, but there were Whitman's active in the church in the Boston area in the late 1600s. It seems reasonable (though I have no knowledge of the practices at that time) that Deacons etc may have witnessed weddings. I didn't find any Richards though. CENSUS: WEYMOUTH MEN IN 1678-79 The nanies of such Persons in Weymouth as took the oath of allegiance to His Majesty, Charles I V, before the Worshipful Joseph Dudley, Assistant, in the year 1678-79: Deacon John Whitman Sexit. Jn- Whitman Peter Neville ============== X-Message: #2 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:25:06 -0500 From: Shirley L Wilcox <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [NEVILLE-L] Talbot Co, MD Peter, Your new (Feb.) expiration of records is great. I have done very little Talbot or Queen Anne Co research. The 15 June 1694 Talbot Co. deed of William Neville to Sarah Noble is very interesting. This is three years before William produced a certificate (1697) saying he married Sarah Noble in Salem 28 Oct 1694. Westchester is not in Henry Gannett's 1904 Gazetteer of MD. Shirley

    03/17/1999 02:23:02
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Elizabeth K. Nevil Blunt
    2. Shirley L Wilcox
    3. Floyd, Your Elizabeth was born in Barren Co. KY probably in the part that became Hart Co. in 1819. I have a birth date of 24 Apr 1812 for her. There is a Bible record for this family at the Harrison Co. (MO) Genealogical Society which another correspondent sent to me. I have no marriage date/dates for Betsey and like you have seen what was printed by Mrs. Hodges. I do have her on the 1850 Mason Co., IL census as well as her brother William. In Dec. we had a post by Connie L Sheets <[email protected]> who is a Shirley researcher & she said Mildred Holtslaw's mother is said to have been a Shirley. She has a photocopy of the Neville Bible record. I suggest you contact her for Holsclaw information too. Do you have a death date & place for Betsey Neville Blunt? I have very little on her - just her birth date & the 1850 census. I would be interested in her children & their names & births etc. The father William Neville was born 5 Apr. 1788 according to the Bible (another record says 15 Apr.) & his wife Mildred was born 29 Oct. 1791. William was a son of James & Sarah Neville. Sarah's maiden name has variously been given as Blackburn, Joyce, Jackson or Jackman. I am leaning towards Jackman since William & Mildred named their first child Sarah Jackman Neville. Do you know how your Betsey got the middle name of Kilpatrick? She & her siblings have middle names (Jackman, Kilpatrick, O'Bannon, Morgan, Warder, Dotson, Rowen, Walker) that are surnames so they probably have some significance. I have only an initial S for Betsey's sister Mildred, but given what Connie Sheets said, that S could likely stand for Shirley. Shirley Wilcox On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:44:18 -0700 "Floyd R. Nelson" <[email protected]> writes: >My great-greatgrandmother was Elizabeth K. Nevil Blunt, born c 1811 >(l850 >census) in Kentucky - probably Hart, Green or Barren Co.; married >Laban >Blunt c1825; died 18 May 1863 Mason Co., Ill. William Nevil her >possible >brother lived nearby. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    03/16/1999 06:13:26
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Elizabeth K. Nevil Blunt (c1811-1863)
    2. Floyd R. Nelson
    3. My great-greatgrandmother was Elizabeth K. Nevil Blunt, born c 1811 (l850 census) in Kentucky - probably Hart, Green or Barren Co.; married Laban Blunt c1825; died 18 May 1863 Mason Co., Ill. William Nevil her possible brother lived nearby. A privately printed book: The Neville Family of England and The United States, published by Watt Ella Nevils Wilson, compiled by Frances Beal & Smith Hodges lists the family of William Nevils (b1766) of Barren Co., Ky., who married Millinder Holsclaw. Named is a "Betsy Nevils, born 1812, died in Ky; married lst Gilpatrick; married 2nd...Blunt. She had five children." Does anyone have information on the family of this William Nevils? Does anyone have additional information about this "Betsy?" I've been at the proverbial brick wall for some time. I am a newcomer to this site and just mailed in my membership to the Heritage Society. The information is very impressive and beautifully presented. My compliments. Thanks for all help/and/or/ hints. Beverly J. Ellison Nelson [email protected]

    03/15/1999 08:44:18
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Nevilles in Texas
    2. Glenn Gohr
    3. For those that haven't seen the Texas Handbook on-line site, it has 46 different articles on Nevilles. It can be found at http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online Do a search for Neville. Then just click on title for full text. I'm sure there are additional entries for variant spellings. Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) [email protected]

    03/15/1999 04:15:18
    1. Re: [NEVILLE-L] MD NEVILL(S)/DAVIS connections?
    2. Paul, I was very interested in reading about your Schoharie County connection as my ggf is buried in Argusville, a small town in the northern part of the county. My gf and father were raised in that area (Schoharie and Montgomery counties) along with his three brothers. You mentioned the Huegenot connection/intermixing and I think I can offer a concrete example of your premise as my ggf John Nevill (b: 8/8/1811) married Julia Grantier, a surname and line about which I can find nothing, by the way. Unfortunately, my knowledge of the family past that is negligible and I am hoping you may perhaps open a window to it. Regards, Rey Neville

    03/14/1999 02:58:54
    1. [NEVILLE-L] NEAVILLE in Missouri
    2. BARBARA A MCNAMER
    3. "Newton County, Missouri" ."In 1831, four families joined the settlement. They were George McInturf, Joseph Ross, Nathaniel Turner and the John Smith families. Many began to settle after this in the next few years, the Whites, Haley, Northcutt, Stamps, Harris, Bowen, Green, Lansford, Neaville, Liles, Major Puttman and Marrs." Ryan, A very interesting possibility? As far as I can figure, Old George went to MO ca 1834 and died there 1835? But, Along with him came his daughter Katherine (& husband Jesse) WHITE. And "our" James Neavill had a son Enoch D. Neavill and a grandson William Nathan Neavill. William Nathan NEAVILL b 1864 married Amanda LANDSFORD in 1886 in Fairview, Newton Co MO!? I believe I corresponded with a descendant of William Nathan Neavill. Anyway, those three surnames could connect some of this family to Newton Co MO? Old George had 10 children with him in 1830 in IL and only 7 could be found back in Effingham Co, IL by 1840. And I still think he had many more unknown children. The history of Effingham Co says George Died along the Gasconade River.......maybe he was traveling at the time? I just looked and Newton Co is in the far south west corner of MO. So has anyone that has been looking hard at Missouri Neavilles come up with any strays that could belong to George b 1760-65? I looked in Missouri a little, but no bells rang? Now I have to find my notes and/or look again. ____ Barbara

    03/14/1999 01:52:17
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Neville/Rapalje
    2. Jan & David Faulkner
    3. Paddy, Paul, and others, You may have the following notes, but I thought I would post them to see what others think. I am not sure where a comparison of families who went to Canada and to Mississippi in the 1700s will lead us, but I hope those who are familiar with one or the other area might see something that will provide clues for both our searches. We Mississippi Nevels/Nevils/Nevills are stuck on the same generation as you Canadian Neville/Nevills. Carmen Matterson, descendant in same group as Paul, sent me the following information. The Talbot Register (Appendices), p. 344 & 345 14 October 1815 V. Petition of Colonel Talbot to Royal and Patriotic Society with further list of suffers along Talbot Road The accumulated distresses of the inhabitants of the County of Middlesex suffered the third of September last compels Colonel Talbot again to implore the benevolent aid of the Loyal and Patriotic Society towards the relief of the undermentioned persons, who have been robbed by their ferocious enemy, who returned to Port Talbot about the 20th of September, burnt the mills and other buildings belonging to Colonel Talbot, together with the houses and barns of Colonel Burwell and several others, thence extending their depredations sixteen miles down Talbot Road, taking all the horses and pillaging the houses of every article of clothing, and destroying such furniture as could not be conveniently carried off. List of the sufferers furnished by Colonel Talbot: 1. Alexander Ross, a wife and five children. 2. Ned McNeal, a wife and two children. 3. Timothy Neal, single. 4. Richard Barrett, single. 5. Jeremiah Cranmer, mother 70 years of age. 6. Henry Ramey, single 7. William Shaff, single. 8. David Mandeville, a wife and seven children. [my note-Jan: note this name with Neavils in Marlboro, SC post of yesterday.] 9. David [Daniel?] Rapelje, a wife and nine children. [Brackets and Daniel? listed as is in the book.] 10. Garrett Smith, a wife and four children. 11. Thomas Curtis, a wife and six children. 12. Archibald McNeal, a wife and two children. 13. George Lawrence, a wife and three children. 14. William Lee, a wife and eight children. 15. George Clark, a wife and four children. 16. Benjamin Watson, a wife. 17. John Davis, a wife and four children. 18. Joseph Mann, a wife and five children. 19. William Toles, a wife and seven children. 20. Hooker (Hosker?) Lee. [parentheses mine; first name illegible in my copy-Jan] 21. Jeremiah Rapelje. 22. George Rapelje. [my note-Jan: a Geo. Rapalje also in Natchez Territory-early Mississipi records; family from New York & New Jersey.] 23. Justus Wilcox, a wife and six children. 24. James Neville, a wife and two children. 25. Margaret Peace, a widow, and four children. 26. John Brae, a wife and four children. 27. Finlay Grant, single. The Elgin Historical and Scientific Institute Reminiscences of George Kerr, of St. Thomas pp. 52 & 53 Mandeville's house was of logs... The New England Mills were then a log building used as a grist mill by Captain Rapelje... Captain Rapelje died, I think, in May 1832, at Yarmouth Heights, in a big two-storey log house, opposite Major Neville's. I was at St. Thomas the day he died. Mrs. Merritt was the only child of the Mandevilles. The Mandeville cottage, east of the Gravel Road was built by Merritt, when he got married. This was in the '40s. About 1829 or 1830, Rapelje sold and deeded his land, (lot 1, con. 8), and the mills to Lucius Bigelow. Bigelow sold, giving bonds for deeds, but before the deeds were made, Bigelow died. Hence there were difficulties in the titles traced through him. ........... Captain Rapelje was of medium build, a better looking man in every way than Jerome. (Jerome was Daniel's son. He died in 1894.) He was a very cleaver, good man. He was deeply regretted by the neighbors when he died. His death created a real sensation. ........... Arch'd McNeil's house was a log house. The frame house, west of the Catholic Chruh, built by John Davis, his son-in-law, occupies nearly its site. Joseph [my note-Jan: Carmen has put Josias above his name.] Barnes house was about where Barnes street is now. He came from Luddy Lane, or near there. His children were: William (a cripple, who died near Brower's, at Catfish Creek), Amos, Minor, Joseph, and Mrs. Anderson Montross.

    03/14/1999 01:25:46
    1. [NEVILLE-L] NEW NEVILLE BOOK
    2. Ren Neville
    3. Last month I mentioned that I had received a copy of Ron Carlisle's new book titled "The Story of Woodville" more commonly know in Pittsburgh as the Neville House. Since then I have received ordering information (Ryan, you might want to put this on our page). If you are interested in purchasing this great works, you can do so as follows: Send $18.95 plus $2.00 postage to: The Pittsburgh History and Landmarks Foundation 450 The Landmarks Building One Station Square Pittsburgh PA 15219 Mark the envelope attention of "Neville House Book" -- ============================================================ Ren and Judy Neville vom Junggesellental Rottweilers Wörterbuch Publishing 925-516-4976 voice/FAX Webpage: http://home.earthlink.net/~beschutzer "If God so clothe the grass of the field.....shall He not much more clothe you" MATT. 6:30

    03/14/1999 09:59:34
    1. Re: [NEVILLE-L] New Book(?)
    2. Glenn Gohr
    3. Regarding the book by Olin V. Mapes on Westmoreland nee Neville, I have the first ed. The 2nd ed. is only slightly revised & I was disappointed that I received the first ed. from Heritage Books when the 2nd ed. was already available. Probably the 3rd ed. & in CD-Rom is also only slightly revised. The book does include a lot descendants of this family in family group type format; however, most of the sources are not listed. It is an interesting study, but it is not documented very well. I assume that most people know that General William Westmoreland is a descendant of this family that changed its name from Neville to Westmoreland upon immigration to the U.S., taking the title name of their holdings back in England, rather than their surname. I believe the 2nd ed. in book form is still available from Heritage Books also, if you are not familiar with this lineage and still want to get it. Glenn Gohr (Neville & Neville-Origins List Manager) [email protected] ---------- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [NEVILLE-L] New Book(?) Date: Saturday, March 13, 1999 10:02 AM Dear Glenn and List, I recently ran across a Neville-Westmoreland Family CD-ROM at Heritage Books (www.heritagebooks.com) part of the ad read: "The family under study lived in the northern part of England near the Scottish border. The story begins with Ernisius Neville, born in 1090, and tracks the family to the present, through Thomas Neville and his son James, who changed the name to Westmoreland when he sailed to America in 1652." Westmoreland ne Neville, 3rd Revision, by Olin V. Maupes Anyone have any knowledge or information on this CD in particular? ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== Have you tried GenConnect? http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html

    03/14/1999 07:46:51
    1. [NEVILLE-L] Marlboro Co., SC Nevilles
    2. Jan & David Faulkner
    3. Does anyone know anything about the Neavil/Neavel/Neville family in the following abstracts from Marlboro, SC records? They lived in the Pee Dee area of eastern South Carolina not far below the North Carolina border. Issac Neaville/Neavil could possibly be related to the Neufvilles in Charleston, SC, because Issac is a name that was used in their family. However, in all the indexes to records I have seen for the Pee Dee area, Isaac's name is never spelled as Neufville. Jan 1800 Census Marlboro Co., SC George Neville 56 Rachel Neville 56 William Neville 56 1810 Census Marlboro Co., SC William Nevel 1820 Census Marlboro Co., SC --- Nevils Wills of Marlboro County, South Carolina by Delwyn Associates, 171 N. Monroe Street, Albany, GA 31701 Note in foreword: "Almost all of the wills in Books B and D also appear in Will Book A--however in some instances the names are spelled differently and the date differ as do the names of a few of the witnesses. Generally, the contents of the wills are alike though not exactly the same in both wills... "It was not possible to obtain any information as to why the above mentioned discrepancies appear. The abstracts of the wills are made from the wills as they appear in Marlboro County records and it is suggested that the researcher obtain both wills when a duplication occurs in order to ascertain which is more correct. One possible explanation for the differences and the repetition is that the wills have been re-recorded one or more times and that in doing this errors have crept in. "Attention is called to the fact that many of these testators seem to have migrated from Anson and Richmond Counties of North Carolina and this offers a source to be searched for records of these people prior to their arrival in Marlboro County, South Carolina." p. 29 Isaac Neavil /s/25 Nov. 1793 /p/ 3 Dec. 1798 Sons: William, George Grandson: Thomas Perkins, the last of his portion it being the last part of the portion of Martha Perkins, deceased. Excr: son Willliam Wit: Herman Gibbs, George Shanks, Aaron Windham, William Windham, F. Kenady, Cornel Mandeville, William Kennedy Note: Also signing this will was Rachel (X) Neavil p. 33 Isaack Neaval /s/25 Nov. 1793 /p/ 3 Dec. 1798 Wife: Rachael Son: William (tracts of land that had been granted to Malcom Murphy, Thomas Wooley, and John Alson); George. Grandson: Thomas Perkins (the last part of the portion due Martha Perkins, deceased.) Excr.: son William Wit: Hermon Gibbs, George Shanks, Horon Windham, William Windham Rachael Neaval signs also with (x). p. 115 Roda Neaval /s/ 4 June 1820 /p/ 3 Aug. 20 Sister: Rachel Windham, Hannah Blackmon Bros: John Whittington, Nathaniel and Levi Whittington, Francis Nephews: John and Levi Windham, Gadi, James, Francis Whittington, Nathaniel Whittington, Thomas Windham Nieces: Elizabeth Mansingle (?), Roda Broach, Elizabeth Allison, Ann Whittington and Hannah Murphy, Elizabeth Dunnam, Martha McRa, Rachel Cr_____? Excr: brother Nathaniel Whittington, James Crawford, John Windham, Rachel Windham Wit: Charles Irby, Wm. Carloss, Wm. Bristow p. 209 William Neaval /s/14 July 1816 /p/17 Dec. 1816 Wife: Rhoda "my reputed daughters": Rachel Crawford (minor); Martha McRee wife fo John McRee. Each 1/3 of estate, that portion to Martha in trust to Rhoda Neaval, James Crawford Jun., and John Windham Excr: wife Rhoda and friends John Windham and James Crawford Wit: Hezekiah Alison, Gade Whittington and Levi Windham p. 210 William Neaval same as above except in one place wife is given as "Reday" and in another as "Roda." This will recorded twice in different handwriting. p. 92 Francis Whittington /s/ 13 July 1816 /p/26 Aug. 1816 Wife: Patience Son: Nathaniel Whitington (slaves in trust to Ezeciah Alison) Gadi Whitington Dau: Elizabeth Allison Gr.children: Sarah McTyer, Robert McTyer, Wm. McTyer and all the rest of the children of Elizabeth Alison Mentions property "which fell from Willilam McTyer deceased to my daughter Elizabeth and the three children of P. McTyer. Excr: son Gadi and Ezeciah Alison Wit: Wm. Neavel, Geo. Hodges, Elijah Payne p. 93 and 94 William Neavel /s/14 July 1816 /p/7 Dec. 1816 Wife: Rhoda To: Rachel Crawford "my reputed daughter" if she should die with heirs then her 113 of estate in trust to James Crawford Jr. and John Windham for "my other reputed daughter," Martha McRee, the wife of John McRee. Excr: wife Rhoda, James Crawford Jr. and John Windham Wit: Hezekiah Alison, Gadie Whitington, Levi Windham Maroborough county, South Carolina / Minutes of the County Court 1785-1799 and Minutes of the Court of Ordinary 1791-1821 by Brent H. Holcomb, C.A.L.S. March term 1787: A deed of conveyance from John Daniel to Isaac Purkens was proved by Isaac Neavil and John Lee, which was order'd to be rec'd. Ordered that Isaac Neavil be allowed to take out Tavern License with giving bond according to Law. March term 1794 Rachael Perkins returned a citation published praying for the admn. of the estate of isaac Perkins decd... Ordered that a dedimus be directed to Samuel Brown Esq. to qualify George Cherry, David Mandeville, Cornelius Mandeville, Benjamin Rogers, and William Neville as appraisers of the estate of Isaac Perkins decd. Ordered that Isaac Neville be appointed guardian for Thomas Perkins son of Isaac Perkins decd, bond for L 100 sterling with David Mandeville security. Sept. term 1794 Rachel Perkins admx. to the estate of Isaac Perkins decd. returned a dedimus, warrant of appraisement, and appraisement of the estate of sd. decd which was orderd. to be recorded. Ordered that Rachel Perkins admx. of the estate of Isaac Perkins decd do sell all the personal estate of said decd, on a credit untill 1st Jan 1796. Ordered that Isaac Neavel be appointed guardian for Thomas Perkins, he being appointed last May term with an ordered...David Mandeville security; the sd. Mandeville not complying therewith...William neavill security... Rachel Perkins returned an acct. of the sale of the personal property of the estate of Isaac Perkins decd. Dec. Term 1798 William Neavil appeared in open court and proved the will of Isaac Neavill decd, the due execution of which was proved by George Shanks. Ordered that a dedimus be directed to Benjamin Rogers Exqr. to qualify Cornelius Mandeville, Frances Whittington, Francis Burton, David Kirby and John Windham as appraisers. October 8 1804. Rachel Windham produced the will of Hon Windham decd which wa proved by William neavil, one of the wit: widow Rachel Windham & John Windham extx. & exor; dedimus issued to William neavel to qualify John cooper, Thomas Knight, Hezekiah Ellison, francis Whittington, and George Hodges as appraisers. March 18 1805. Elizabeth Frizel Kerby returned a citation duly published for admn. on the estate of David Kirby late of Marlborough District decd; entered into bond with Francis Whittington and David Mandeville, sec. for $5000; dedimus to Geroge Hodges Esq. to qualify Wm. Neavil, Francis Whittington, John Cooper, William Brown and James Megee as appraisers. March 3rd 1806. Francis Whittington produced the will of Elizabeth Whittington late of Marlborough District decd; proved by Elizabeth Frizzell Kerby, a wit; qualified Francis Whittington exr; dedimus issued to William Neavel Esq. to qualify George Hodges, John Cooper, Ezekiah Ellison, Baker Wiggins, and Thomas Purkens as appraisers. March 32st 1806. Proved will of Elizabeth Whittington late of Marlborough Dist. widow decd; by Elizabeth Frizel Kerby a wit; qualified Francis Whittington, exr. March 10th 1808. Right Bruce returned a citation for admn. on the estate of William Bruce, late of Marlborough dist. decd; entered into bond with Willliam Brown and Hezekiah Alison for $600; dedimus issued to George Hodges to qualify Francis Whittington, Wm Neavel, Joseph Gourley, James Megee and William Brown as appraisers. October 28th 1808. William Grice returned a citation for admn. on the estate of William Grice Senr. decd; entered into bond with George Shanks and William Neavel for $400; dedimus issued to Wm Neavel to qualify Francis Whittington, Nathaniel Whittington, Arthur Tomkins, Daniel Baker and George Hodges Esqr. as appraisers.

    03/13/1999 11:20:54
    1. Re: [NEVILLE-L] NEAVILLE in Missouri
    2. Ryan My Ephraim Neavill was also in Missouri for a period of time --- in the 1860 Census, he was found there by Chris Heaton as "Ephram Nevil", a miller, with wife "Catherine," son Edward "Nevil." daughters "Unus," Julia and Adelia and stepson Franklin Heaton. Son Edward J. Neavill and stepson Franklin Davenport Heaton were miners. [Census: 1860 Washington County, Missouri, Union Township, p. 76, line 9.] I have not been able to find any trace of Edward J. Neavill after that census, so I do not know whether he stayed there in MO, moved to another state, died, was killed in the Civil War or what. Ephraim's second wife, Catharine (Van Hook) (Heaton) Neavill, was living with her son Franklin Davenport Heaton in Valles Mines, Jefferson County, MO when she died 9 Nov 1894. She is buried there. [About 1884, Ephraim had gone to California to live with his married daughters, Harriet Elizabeth (Neavill) Bloss and Ellen Collins (Neavill) (Red) McGraw.] He died at Whittier, Los Angeles Co. 25 March 1894, soon after he began receiving an Army Pension for his service in the Blackhawk War of 1832. Catharine immediately applied for the widow's pension, but died before she received it. Diane Wilson Flynn

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