Barbara fyi - there is a new list - [email protected], set up for ex-Prodigy, and soon to be ex-Prodigy folk. A good place to look for past friends and connections Jeanne

Paddy, Shirley and Others, Shirley wrote: "HYPOTHESIS - STILL TO BE PROVEN I have possible children for David & Martha, & I think this was Martha's second marriage. I believe she m(1) as Martha Laurence on 18 Aug 1752 at St Luke's Parish, Queen Anne Co, MD, William Wharton. She then m(2) 28 Sept 1758 St Luke's Parish, David Nevil. He seems to have died by March 1769 and she m(3) Wm Sarey or Larey? by 1771. The David Nevil who died by 1771 left children George, Ann, Mary & Esther." I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it was the Seney family that Martha married into family after Davids death. The Seneys were a French Hugaunot family that the Nevilles married into in 1732 (or so if memory serves) when Mary Neville married Solomon Seney. The Nevilles seem to have had alot of other interaction with the Seneys as well over the years. For example: Walter Neville sold land to John Seney in 1767 in QA County and David Nevil (below) sells land to Joshua Seney in 1785. What record are you looking at for your hypothesis? This is what little I've pieced together so far on David & Co.: Walter Nevill (?-1741) m. Bridget ___ (?-1748) Sons: John, DAVID, Walter Jr, Daus: Rachel, Mary (m. Solomon Long) (MD Wills) Bridget (?-1748) remarries to William Primrose, blacksmith Sons: John Navil, DAVID Nevil Daus: Rachel Nevil, Catherine Nevil Wit: John Nevil, Jr. David Nevil, guardian of Walter Nevill (minor) 1762 1767 - David lives at Wharton's Adventure owned by minor George Wharton (QA Land Rec, Bk 6, Leonard p. 130) 1770 - Martha Nevill, widow of David Nevill (QA Land Rec, Bk 7, Leonard p. 77) 1785 - David Nevill (son of David?), House Joiner, to Joshua Seney, 3.5 acres near Church Hill where David Nevil (is this the deceased David?) lately dwelt. (QA Land Rec, Bk 8, Leonard p. 179) 1785 - Elizabeth, wife of David Nevil (QA Land Rec, Bk 8, Leonard p. 179) Shirley also wrote: "I had tentatively identified John Sr. as the man who m Sarah Richardson & John Jr. as his son John S. Nevil who m Elizabeth. These families later moved to Beaver Co, PA. Peter, this is your branch, what are your thoughts?" Yes, we have always identified John Sr. as the man who m Sarah Richardson & John Jr. as his son John S. Nevil who m Elizabeth. I am one who believes that nothing is ever "proven", but I am confident that these Johns are our line. Peter Neville =================reply separator============================================ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:06:12 -0500 From: Shirley L Wilcox ><[email protected]> To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: >[NEVILLE-L] 1790 Census for MD > >On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:59:32 -0500 [email protected] >writes: > Paddy and others, > > Below are all the Nevilles, etc. that I've found in the 1790 US >Census. It looks to me like John Nevil Sr of Cecil Co is the only one that fits your bill. I will double check to see if there isn't more info on him. > > 1790 US Census, MD: > Ann Arundel County: > Nowell, Gilbert, 3 white males 16 or older, 2 white females > Nowell, ______, 3 white males 16 or older, 1 white female > > Cecil County, Elk Neck Hundred: > John Nevil Sr. 2 white males 16 or older, 2 white males > under 16, 8 white females, 1 slave > John Nevil Jr. 1 white male 16 or older, 2 white females > Thomas Newell 1 white male 16 or older, 1 white females > I had tentatively identified John Sr. as the man who m Sarah Richardson & John Jr. as his son John S. Nevil who m Elizabeth. These families later moved to Beaver Co, PA. Peter, this is your branch, what are your thoughts? Shirley > Frederick County: > Navel, Peter, 1 white male 16 or older, 1 white male under >16, 2 > white females > > Harford County: > Jas. Newell, 3 white males 16 or older, 1 white male under >16, 2 white females > Moses Nevell, 1 white male 16 or older, 2 white males, 4 >white females > > Kent County: > Newell, John, 2 white males 16 or older, 4 white males under >16, 4 white females, 13 slaves > > Queen Anne's County: > David Nevil 1 male 16 or older, 2 males under 16, 3 >females, 3 slaves > James Nevill 1 male 16 or older, 3 males under 16, 3 >females, 4 slaves > > > Have you ever explored a possible connection between Martha Nevil >of (I guess) Harford county and Martha Nevil of Queen Anne county? > TESTAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS INDEX, MD Archives: > Name Year County Liber Folio > Martha Nevel 1762 Queen Anne's 39 19,21 > Martha Nevell 1761/2 Queen Anne's 38 57,134,22,345 > Martha Newell 1762/3 Queen Anne's 39 45, 64, 146, >164, 195 > > DEBT BOOK INDEX, MD Archives: > - Martha Nevil, 1769 41 > Mt. Gilboa, Sayers Range Addition, Wharton's >Adventure, Williams Beginning > > Maryland Marriages by Robert Barnes: > St Luke's Parish, Queen Anne Co.: > David Nevill m 28 Sep 1758 Martha Wharton > > Your Martha was born 1759; maybe she was a "honeymoon baby" to >David and Martha? > > Peter Neville HYPOTHESIS - STILL TO BE PROVEN I have possible children for David & Martha, & I think this was Martha's second marriage. I believe she m(1) as Martha Laurence on 18 Aug 1752 at St Luke's Parish, Queen Anne Co, MD, William Wharton. She then m(2) 28 Sept 1758 St Luke's Parish, David Nevil. He seems to have died by March 1769 and she m(3) Wm Sarey or Larey? by 1771. The David Nevil who died by 1771 left children George, Ann, Mary & Esther. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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Paddy and others, I could swear that I once collected a record of a Ruth Nevil and some other Neville being orphans and adopted by someone. I'll check my stack of less organized records and see what I can find. As for the 1790 Census, there is no record of a Mary Burns or a Mathew Burns in Maryland. There is a Mathew Barnes in Charles Co (3 white males 16+, 1 white male under 16, 5 white females and 2 slaves). I don't know how good a candidate he would be. There are three records for Mary Burns in Pennsylvania: Northampton County (the current Northampton Co is on the Eastern border of the State and dead center North-South-wise -- I don't know what the 1790 bounderies were) Lower Saucon Township Mary Burns and 2 other free persons Northampton County (not returned by township) Mary Burns and 2 other free persons (my note: looks kinda like a double count to me) Philadelphia, Northern District between Vine and Race Streets and from Delaware River to the Schuylkill River Mary Burns, 1 white male 16+, 1 white female Hope this helps. Peter ============================================================ >X-Message: #3 <Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:36:27 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: >[NEVILLE-L] John NEVILL of Harford & Mrs. Burns > >In a recent posting to the list I mentioned discovering for the first >time that a Mrs. Burns is mentioned on a page in the trip diary of >Thomas WELSH dated 1793 when he and the families of Moses NEVILL and >John NEVILL left Harford Co., MD for Canada. The name was included >on an itemized list of goods weighed for transport (I believe to >cross Lake Ontario from Oshwego N.Y. to Kingston, ON). I don't know >how I missed it in the past but can only think it was because of >where it was in the diary and my aversion to all things mathematical. > Anyway, the name is clearly Mrs. Burns and it was written by Thomas >WELSH, a well educated intelligent man and the brother-in-law of both >John and >Moses NEVILL, all 3 men being married to Mitchell sisters. So >presumably Welsh knew who the lady in question was and how to spell >her name so I >am satisfied that the name is Burns. > >I began searching my files and found the following which Shirley >Wilcox had kindly given me: > >Brumbaugh, Gais Marcus. Maryland Recores. Lancaster Pa. Lancaster >Press, Inc. Vol. 2. 1828. indexed >p. 171 1776 Harford Lower Hundred, Harford Co. >Burns, Mathew (tax), 60 >Mary, 41 >NEVEL, Ruth, 10 >NEVEL, John, 7 > >I think it very likely that the John NEVIL and Mary BURNS mentioned >above are the same two people who accompanied Thomas WELSH to Canada >in 1793. >I still do not know the relationship between John NEVILL and Moses >NEVILL. > >I have already run this past Shirley Wilcox and Jan Faulkner and for >their thoughts and wonder if anyone else on the list can connect to >John NEVILL and Mrs. Burns? This is the best lead I have had in a >long time and proof that you should periodically go over your files. > >John and Ruth could be orphaned children of a relative of Mrs. Burns, >her own illegit. children if she was born a NEVILL, or she could be >their mother in a second marriage. > >Peter Neville has kindly sent me the Nevilles in MD on the 1790 >census and none match John who should have had a wife, a daughter and >1 male under 16 who would have been his wife's son Ephriam Cole >MITCHELL. Now I am thinking that perhaps he was still living in the >household of Mrs. Burns in 1790 and will ask Peter if he could check >this out for me. > >If anyone can shed any light on who Mary BURNS might be it would be >very helpful. Thank you. > >Paddy >in Ontario, Canada > >______________________________

"I have a copy of Elijah Field Neavill's death certificate and it says his parents were Elijah Neavill and Sarah Greenwalt. The informant was a Lela Lucker." Ryan 1850 census - Pheba age 24 1860 census - Phebe age 36 1870 census - I did not fine Pheba or Elijah? Marriages: Elijah F. Neville .....parents Elijah Nevills and Phila Greenwood to Amanda Austin Jan 16, 1886 Henry E. Nevill .......parents Eliza Nevill [Elijah] and Fealy Greenwood to Edith E. Hatcher Apr 8 1886 Lela Neavill .......parents Elijah Neavill and .......Austin to Paul Tucker Sept 16 1912 So, maybe Elijah's grand-daughter, Lela Tucker, got it wrong? Her grandparents were propably dead before she was born? The Greenwood/Greenwalt switch is understandable, but how did we get from Pheba/Phebe/Phila/Feely to........Sarah? I thought maybe her name was Ophelia? The only other idea I came up with is that Elijah left the county and married a second time to a Sarah? His son George left the county ca 1870, maybe Elijah did too? Elijah Field Neavill ended up in Logan Co IL? [Elijah had a daughter Phebe and also a daughter Sarah?] So, have I made my case for Pheba/Phebe/Phila/Feely Greenwood?? ____ Barbara

No Mark Rectors but: from Fauquier Families, 1759-1799 Uriah Rector sells part of tract formerly owned by John Rector, dec'd to Thomas Neavil 154 acres. I think the date is 1778. On same page and having nothing to do with Rectors (except as allied families) Redman, Elizabeth bound to Joseph Neavill 1766 and Joseph Neavill appt. Admin 1759 to Richard Redman. *** Another Neavill/Rector**** John Rector Jr (s/o John s/o John Jacob the emmigrant) sues George Neavill Jr 1765 Green/Rector Elizabeth Green marriage bond 12/22/1794 to Lewis Rector bondsman is George Green elizabeth Green a minor d/o Joeseph Green marriage bond to Moses Rector 2/25/1778 bondsman William Rector. >Thank you for the information you posted recently regarding the Squire >Nevels name and the use of Squire in the Williams and Boone families. > >In the Rector family, have you found a Mark Rector. I apologize if I have >asked this question before. James Nevels was on a Tennessee passport with >Mark Rector in the 1790s. I think he is the same James Nevels who was in >Jefferson Co., MS records in the late 1790s with a Humphrey Beardin, who was >also on the Tennessee Passport. > >Jan > >At 06:10 PM 3/7/99 -0600, you wrote: > >> I'm finding that many of the Rectors and allied families >>moved into NC/SC then up (for some reason) to Washington Co Va >>and into eastern KY. Mary Bryan Van Hoose's spouse was born >>on land neighboring Morgan Bryan's (in-laws with Daniel Boone.) >>Morgan Bryan's migration is Frederick (1730's) south to various >>points in Va, then NC. The same is true for Squire Williams >>family (Peedee River NC/SC... allied to Davis and Anderson). >>The same is true for the early Ramey (Remy, Reamy...) family... >>also allied to both the Brown and Bryan family. >> The Van Hoose family split and some are living in Alabama >>today. The rest live on the Big Sandy in Kentucky. Other allied >>by marriage surnames are Lewis (of the Washington allied >>family), Clark, Preston (also an allied family of >>Washington), Price, Yokum, Lemaster and Hite. >> As a matter of fact, the Rectors married into the Boone >>family early on. I'd look for places where the Boones and >>Bryans lived to find out more about Squire Neville's family. >

Shirley, Laura, and others interested in James Neville of Lincoln/Barren Co., KY, A few years ago, Ruth Nevels sent me some information one of her correspondents found the LDS archives in Salt Lake City. It is a little puzzling, and I am wondering if anyone else has seen the following: Genealogies of Kentucky Families Joyce-Nevil History James Nevil and wife Sarah Joyce lived at Harrodsburg, Pa. for land early day. Does anyone know if a member of the Joyce family gave the above information? Shirley has stated that Sarah's name has been listed various ways including Blackburn, Jackson, Jackman, and Joyce. I found a Harrisburg, PA but could not find a Harrodsburg, PA. A Harrodsburg, KY station was established about the time James Neville came in the 1770s from Fauquier Co., VA to Lincoln Co. (when it was still part of VA). I don't know if he ever lived at Harrodsburg. Does anyone else know? Did James perhaps also live in PA for land? I am guessing that if he did, it would have been in the area where his brother Gen. John Neville was scouting land for Geo. Washington, as well as for himself. One of those areas was in Washington Co., PA. Does anyone know if James Neville of Fauquier Co., VA and Lincoln/Barren Co., KY ever owned land in Pennsylvania? The only James Nevill I find in records in Washington Co. is the one who served as a ranger on the frontier during the Revolution. Philip Nevill also served as a ranger in that county, and he is probably the man of that same name in Mississippi in 1790s. James Neville of Barren Co., KY does not mention service in PA on his Rev. War pension application. In transactions and proofs of claims for William Mackey in the Natchez Court Records (Mississippi), a James Nevill appears to have owned the same 100 acres of land Philip Nevill owned. It may be coincidence, but William Mackey is also the name of a relation of James Neville of Lincoln/Barren Co., KY. Adam Jackman is another name found with the Barren Co., Ky Nevilles and also near the Nevilles in Jefferson Co., MS--perhaps another coincidence. Does anyone have anything on the Mackeys or Jackmans in Barren Co., KY, which might indicate a Mississippi connection? Jan

In a recent posting to the list I mentioned discovering for the first time that a Mrs. Burns is mentioned on a page in the trip diary of Thomas WELSH dated 1793 when he and the families of Moses NEVILL and John NEVILL left Harford Co., MD for Canada. The name was included on an itemized list of goods weighed for transport (I believe to cross Lake Ontario from Oshwego N.Y. to Kingston, ON). I don't know how I missed it in the past but can only think it was because of where it was in the diary and my aversion to all things mathematical. Anyway, the name is clearly Mrs. Burns and it was written by Thomas WELSH, a well educated intelligent man and the brother-in-law of both John and Moses NEVILL, all 3 men being married to Mitchell sisters. So presumably Welsh knew who the lady in question was and how to spell her name so I am satisfied that the name is Burns. I began searching my files and found the following which Shirley Wilcox had kindly given me: Brumbaugh, Gais Marcus. Maryland Recores. Lancaster Pa. Lancaster Press, Inc. Vol. 2. 1828. indexed p. 171 1776 Harford Lower Hundred, Harford Co. Burns, Mathew (tax), 60 Mary, 41 NEVEL, Ruth, 10 NEVEL, John, 7 I think it very likely that the John NEVIL and Mary BURNS mentioned above are the same two people who accompanied Thomas WELSH to Canada in 1793. I still do not know the relationship between John NEVILL and Moses NEVILL. I have already run this past Shirley Wilcox and Jan Faulkner and for their thoughts and wonder if anyone else on the list can connect to John NEVILL and Mrs. Burns? This is the best lead I have had in a long time and proof that you should periodically go over your files. John and Ruth could be orphaned children of a relative of Mrs. Burns, her own illegit. children if she was born a NEVILL, or she could be their mother in a second marriage. Peter Neville has kindly sent me the Nevilles in MD on the 1790 census and none match John who should have had a wife, a daughter and 1 male under 16 who would have been his wife's son Ephriam Cole MITCHELL. Now I am thinking that perhaps he was still living in the household of Mrs. Burns in 1790 and will ask Peter if he could check this out for me. If anyone can shed any light on who Mary BURNS might be it would be very helpful. Thank you. Paddy in Ontario, Canada

On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:59:32 -0500 [email protected] writes: > Paddy and others, > > Below are all the Nevilles, etc. that I've found in the 1790 US >Census. It looks to me like John Nevil Sr of Cecil Co is the only one that fits your bill. I will double check to see if there isn't more info on him. > > 1790 US Census, MD: > Ann Arundel County: > Nowell, Gilbert, 3 white males 16 or older, 2 white females > Nowell, ______, 3 white males 16 or older, 1 white female > > Cecil County, Elk Neck Hundred: > John Nevil Sr. 2 white males 16 or older, 2 white males > under 16, 8 white females, 1 slave > John Nevil Jr. 1 white male 16 or older, 2 white females > Thomas Newell 1 white male 16 or older, 1 white females > I had tentatively identified John Sr. as the man who m Sarah Richardson & John Jr. as his son John S. Nevil who m Elizabeth. These families later moved to Beaver Co, PA. Peter, this is your branch, what are your thoughts? Shirley > Frederick County: > Navel, Peter, 1 white male 16 or older, 1 white male under >16, 2 > white females > > Harford County: > Jas. Newell, 3 white males 16 or older, 1 white male under >16, 2 white females > Moses Nevell, 1 white male 16 or older, 2 white males, 4 >white females > > Kent County: > Newell, John, 2 white males 16 or older, 4 white males under >16, 4 white females, 13 slaves > > Queen Anne's County: > David Nevil 1 male 16 or older, 2 males under 16, 3 >females, 3 slaves > James Nevill 1 male 16 or older, 3 males under 16, 3 >females, 4 slaves > > > Have you ever explored a possible connection between Martha Nevil >of (I guess) Harford county and Martha Nevil of Queen Anne county? > TESTAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS INDEX, MD Archives: > Name Year County Liber Folio > Martha Nevel 1762 Queen Anne's 39 19,21 > Martha Nevell 1761/2 Queen Anne's 38 57,134,22,345 > Martha Newell 1762/3 Queen Anne's 39 45, 64, 146, >164, 195 > > DEBT BOOK INDEX, MD Archives: > - Martha Nevil, 1769 41 > Mt. Gilboa, Sayers Range Addition, Wharton's >Adventure, Williams Beginning > > Maryland Marriages by Robert Barnes: > St Luke's Parish, Queen Anne Co.: > David Nevill m 28 Sep 1758 Martha Wharton > > Your Martha was born 1759; maybe she was a "honeymoon baby" to >David and Martha? > > Peter Neville HYPOTHESIS - STILL TO BE PROVEN I have possible children for David & Martha, & I think this was Martha's second marriage. I believe she m(1) as Martha Laurence on 18 Aug 1752 at St Luke's Parish, Queen Anne Co, MD, William Wharton. She then m(2) 28 Sept 1758 St Luke's Parish, David Nevil. He seems to have died by March 1769 and she m(3) Wm Sarey or Larey? by 1771. The David Nevil who died by 1771 left children George, Ann, Mary & Esther. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Paddy and others, Below are all the Nevilles, etc. that I've found in the 1790 US Census. It looks to me like John Nevil Sr of Cecil Co is the only one that fits your bill. I will double check to see if there isn't more info on him. There is actually a copy of the entire 1790 census in the lobby of the building where I work, so I would be happy to do any other look ups for you during lunch, etc. 1790 US Census, MD: Ann Arundel County: Nowell, Gilbert, 3 white males 16 or older, 2 white females Nowell, ______, 3 white males 16 or older, 1 white female Cecil County, Elk Neck Hundred: John Nevil Sr. 2 white males 16 or older, 2 white males under 16, 8 white females, 1 slave John Nevil Jr. 1 white male 16 or older, 2 white females Thomas Newell 1 white male 16 or older, 1 white females Frederick County: Navel, Peter, 1 white male 16 or older, 1 white male under 16, 2 white females Harford County: Jas. Newell, 3 white males 16 or older, 1 white male under 16, 2 white females Moses Nevell, 1 white male 16 or older, 2 white males, 4 white females Kent County: Newell, John, 2 white males 16 or older, 4 white males under 16, 4 white females, 13 slaves Queen Anne's County: David Nevil 1 male 16 or older, 2 males under 16, 3 females, 3 slaves James Nevill 1 male 16 or older, 3 males under 16, 3 females, 4 slaves Have you ever explored a possible connection between Martha Nevil of (I guess) Harford county and Martha Nevil of Queen Anne county? TESTIMENTARY PROCEEDINGS INDEX, MD Archives: Name Year County Liber Folio Martha Nevel 1762 Queen Anne's 39 19,21 Martha Nevell 1761/2 Queen Anne's 38 57,134,22,345 Martha Newell 1762/3 Queen Anne's 39 45, 64, 146, 164, 195 DEBT BOOK INDEX, MD Archives: - Martha Nevil, 1769 41 Mt. Gilboa, Sayers Range Addition, Wharton's Adventure, Williams Beginning Maryland Marriages by Robert Barnes: St Luke's Parish, Queen Anne Co.: David Nevill m 28 Sep 1758 Martha Wharton Your Martha was born 1759; maybe she was a "honeymoon baby" to David and Martha? Peter Neville ------------------ORIGINAL MESSAGE------------------- >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:14:24 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: [NEVILLE-L] >C>ecil Co. Nevilles? > >Jan, Shirley, Peter, Gabe, and others, > >I have gone back over all the material you sent Jan and Shirley, and >could not find a quick answer to what has been running through my mind. >It is probably contained in the material but I am just not seeing it. >Here is my line of thinking and question: > >Moses NEVILL, my ancestor came to Canada from Harford Co. MD in 1793, in >the company of Thomas WELSH and John NEVILL. I do not know what the >relationship was between Moses and John but feel it very likely that they >are closely related. Moses named his sons Thomas (which could have been >for his father-in-law Thomas MITCHELL), Kent (definitely a Mitchell >given name) and John (not a Mitchell name). I have pretty much figured >out who the 6 children of Moses were. John NEVILL, on the other hand, is >pretty much a mystery. A Land Petition by Thomas WELSH says " "Elizabeth >Mitchell wife of Moses Nevill has 6 children, Martha wife of John Nevill >has 2 children". The petition was dated Dec. 5, 1796. >In another Land Petition Welsh states that Ephriam Cole MITCHELL is the >eldest child of Martha NEVILL and that he is under 21 and living with >Thomas Welsh. I know from later census records that Ephriam was born >about >1786. His mother Martha was born 1759 making her 27 when he was born. So >I'm thinking that John NEVILL was at least her age or older. That aside, >I believe the other child of Martha and John Nevill was Mary NEVILL who >was also under the wing of Thomas Welsh and who I know form her tombstone >inscription was born 25 Nov. 1789. So, the dates of Ephriam and Mary's >births would indicate 1) that Martha Mitchell and John NEVILL were >married prior to the 1790 Census of MD and 2) that they should be shown >with 2 children on that census. > >If you have waded through the above and are still with me, my question >is: which John NEVILL on the MD Census of 1790 fits the bill of a >man with a male under 16 and a female under 16? I only have a couple of >pages of the MD census so don't know if there may be John NEVILLs in >other areas that could fit the profile. Perhaps if I could figure >out which one he is likely to be on the census and see what other Nevills >are living close by, then it might be some indication of which family he >belongs to. I know that's a lot of "ifs" but ifs are all I have at >the moment. > >Could one of you with the complete printed census have a look if it would >not be too much trouble. I have no idea if it is a huge amount of pages >to go through but if it is don't go to the trouble, just tell that is the >case and I will order in the census microfilm. Thanks. > >Paddy > > > >Thomas WELSH raised Ephriam Cole MITCHELL >and at least one daughter who I believe was Mary NEVILL. I also found a >Margaret NEVILLE on an 1813 list of school children in Charlotteville >Twp. where Thomas WELSH lived so she could also be a possible child of >Martha Nevill. So what I don't know for sure is when Thomas WELSH said >in his petition that as I know that Moses was not living there at that >time. John NEVILL himself stayed in Humberstone Twp. some distance away. > >______________________________ >

Received this note........ " Tonight I'm visiting Oklahoma, as I talked to my Uncle today and he said he had heard long ago from Blonson that Jesse had inherited land there and then sold it . " George(of Effingham Co) ->Elijah->George->Jesse-> to Blonson. Are there any stray Neavill's in Oklahoma? Of course, Jesse could have inherited from wife, mother, grandmother side of the family, but I wondered if there were Neavill's there? George (between Elihah and Jesse) left Effingham Co ca 1871 for MO & NE. I have references of the family returning to Effingham Co 1894, 1897, 1886. Jesse left again between 1905 and 1920 for Oregon. ____ Barbara

On Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:39:03, -0500 [email protected] ( BARBARA A MCNAMER) writes: >I have been trying to sort out all of my notes and found something >"funny" about Anna > >Notes: >Anna Neavill marriage to Wm. S. Hammond Feb 25 1811 - Enoch Neavill >father. Pulaski Co KY > >Anna (Joanna) Neavill marriage to Jacob Meece Feb 26, 1811 - Enoch >Neavill father, Pulaski Co, KY > >I wonder if someones finger slipped down a line when recording this >record? Are there two Anna's? [possibly daughter, grand-daughter] >Did Anna change her mind and marry a different guy one day later? >Does anyone have easy access to these original records? There was a >recent note posted from Pam Lewis on the Neavill/Meese marriage and I >had it in my notes without the father reference. ????????? > >____ >Barbara Barbara, My notes show that the marriage of Anna Nevill to William S Hammond came from a different source than that of Jacob Meece & Ann Nevill. The Hammond marriage was in "Pulaski County Marriage Records 1851-1863" by the Pulaski County Historical Society and was in a section titled Names in Court Records But Not in First Book. Since a surety was given it was probably a marriage bond. Here is what the book shows: p127 Hammond, Wm. S., 25 Feb. 1811, Anna Nevill F. Enoch Nevill Sur. Stephen Sayers So, someone would need to locate this marriage bond AND look at the marriage license or return of Jacob Meece. The printed records I have do not show a parent for the marriage of Ann Nevill & Jacob Meece. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Betty Stafford forwarded the following obit to me. The Sunday paper to which she refers would be the March 14 issue, probably the Courier Journal in Louisville, KY. I think the Shacklefords are related to some of the Nevilles on our list but can't remember which group. Mr. Shackleford had some interesting articles in The Kentucky Explorer over the past few years. This obit in the paper Sunday had " J. Nevyle Shackleford, retired journalist , dies at 89." He lived at Beattyville Ky. Jan

Also in my notes, an interesting notation from Barbara Barrett: "My George [George Barrett] was supposed to have been with Jackson at New Orleans [1812]. His daughter May's son said that in a story when he lived in Arkansas. " Could this be sort of another connection between Patsy Neavill and Elihu Neavill ??- [My George is the father of Patsy, George Barrett was Patsy's husband ]. Elihu's father was in the same battle at New Orleans? I still think my George was too old and had too many children to go marching off to war? ? George Barrett and Elihu Neavill had land near each other in Jackson Co AL early 1830's. ____ Barbara

I have been trying to sort out all of my notes and found something "funny" about Anna Notes: Anna Neavill marriage to Wm. S. Hammond Feb 25 1811 - Enoch Neavill father. Pulaski Co KY Anna (Joanna) Neavill marriage to Jacob Meece Feb 26, 1811 - Enoch Neavill father, Pulaski Co, KY I wonder if someones finger slipped down a line when recording this record? Are there two Anna's? [possibly daughter, grand-daughter] Did Anna change her mind and marry a different guy one day later? Does anyone have easy access to these original records? There was a recent note posted from Pam Lewis on the Neavill/Meese marriage and I had it in my notes without the father reference. ????????? ____ Barbara

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------932AB39BE326F27C84C5CE43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jan & David Faulkner wrote: > At 03:58 PM 3/21/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Jan, Shirley, Peter, Gabe, and others... > > Thomas WELSH raised Ephriam Cole MITCHELL > >and at least one daughter who I believe was Mary NEVILL. I also found a > >Margaret NEVILLE on an 1813 list of school children in Charlotteville Twp. > >where Thomas WELSH lived so she could also be a possible child of > >Martha Nevill. So what I don't know for sure is when Thomas WELSH said > >in his petition that as I know that Moses was not living there at that time. > >John NEVILL himself stayed in Humberstone Twp. some distance away. > > > > Paddy and others in the Canadian Neville lines, > > Some of the names related to the Nevills in the Canadian posts are amazing > because the same surnames were in the Natchez Territory in MS. I think some > of the Natchez folks were almost certainly related to some of your Ontario > families. > > When I saw the Ephraim Cole Mitchell in Paddy's post above, I got real > excited. However, I finally realized I was thinkin of Ephraim COLEMAN. His > land bounded Philip Nevills' land on COLE's Creek in Jefferson Co., MS > (which was formerly located in Natchez Territory). Philip's claim was > located 15 miles above Fort Panmure and bound by the lands of Ephraim > Coleman, Benjamin Fletcher, John Stampley, John Clark, and William Thomas. I > believe Philip to be the same person of that name in the MD/PA Rev. War > patriot soldier records. Ephraim Coleman was part of the Swayze brothers' > Presbyterian settlement which went to Natchez from New Jersey in the 1770s > or 1780s. Paul and others who have posted their Canadian Neville families > to the list also show connections with the Swayzies in Canada. I wonder if > the Canadian Swayzies also came from NJ? > Try these connections on the Judge Samual Swayze Family tree - they are Canadian Nevills and if you trace them back some of the family came from New Jersey. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/l/David-C-Holmes/GENE3-0045.html Will send a copy of e-mail from Betty (Holmes?) from when I queried their site about their Canadian Nevill connections. Dave Neville > I checked the index to the Natchez Court records for Cole first names but > not find an Ephraim. There were Coles in the Cole's Creek area. I am > posting one of the Natchez references on the Coles and Osbornes, since Paddy > has both names in her line. (Did I just imagine I saw an Issac Johnson in > one of the Canadian Neville posts? I went back through them and could not > find the name. That is another name related to our MS Nevill/Nevels.) > > Natchez Court Records 1767-1805 by May Wilson McBee, p. 29 > Book A, p. 228, 28 Dec. 1784. Notice received of the death of Joanna > Osborn, widow of late Samuel Osborn and since wife of Elijah Routh, said > Joanna died at Cole's Creek and left 4 children, 2 sons and 2 daus. lawful > issue by her first marriage, the boys Samuel and Boyd, one 14 and the other > 11; the daus. Sarah and Buldah [Huldah?]. Curators appointed; Isaac Johnson > and James Truly, of district, who accepted the charge. p. 229, 28 Dec. > 1784. Appraisers of above estate Richard Harrison and John Burnet, both > residents and planters of sd District, who accepted. (p. 230) Jany. 1, 1785. > Inventory and appraised $2435. Nothing more being found on account of > Elijah Routh, last husband of the deceased Joanna Osborn, having absconded > on 26 of last month, taking two children, Samuel and Boyd, three slaves and > seven horses and sundry other effects, belonging to the four minors. Signed > James Truly and Isaac Johnson. Wit: John Burnet, Jno. Joseph Rodriguez. > Trevino // p. 230, 3 Jany. 1785. Plantation to James Elliot, Thos. M. > Green, surety. Other buyers: Gibson Clark, surety John Burnet; James > Armstrong; James Elliott; Thomas Calvit; George Killion - surety John > Stille, Abner Green - Thomas M. Green; Thomas M. Green - Abner Green; James > Armstrong - John Burner; William Ferguson - Richard Devall; Jeremiah Brian - > James Elliott; James Truly - Jeremiah Brian; Manuel Texada - Estavan Minor; > Estevan Minor - James Elliot; William Ferbens - Richd. Devall; John Terry > .... Total $3003. > > My note: Manuel Texada was the son-in-law of Philip Nevill. Estevan Minor > was Stephen Minor, the eldest son of William Minor of Greene Co., PA; Wm. > Minor was from Lyme, Connecticut, and was the last Governor under Spanish > rule in the Natchez District. (p. 598, McBee) > > Another note of interest, since Paul shows a Green link. According to the > McBee book, Thomas M. Green, above, was from VA, but emigrated to Georgia > and South Carolina with his son-in-law Cato West. Next, Green represented > Georgia interests in taking over the Natchez Territory from the Spanish. > (Georgia claimed much of the Spanish Mississippi area as its own and did not > want to recognize Spain's right to the territory.) Others from the > Georgia/SC area are said to have come with him. Because some of the Nevills > in the Bath/Beaufort Co., NC area may have gone to Georgia, I thought this > worth mentioning. > > Since Greens lived near our Nevels in MS, I have wondered if my Nevels from > South Carolina went to MS because of Thomas M. Green. The Spanish were a > little peeved when Thomas M. Green showed up with intentions of claiming > land under a GA claim. Because he would not give up, they finally put him > in jail in New Orleans but felt sorry for him when his wife died, and they > released him. They liked the sitution of his land so well that the Spanish > governor Gayoso established his headquarters on Green's plantation. > > Jan > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? > http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm --------------932AB39BE326F27C84C5CE43 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for David Neville Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: David Neville n: Neville;David org: Proud member TLC Brotherhood email;internet: [email protected] note;quoted-printable:355th AMS=0D=0A= Takhli Apr 68 - Jun 69=0D=0A= F105 ECM Shop=0D=0A= x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------932AB39BE326F27C84C5CE43--

At 03:58 PM 3/21/99 -0500, you wrote: >Jan, Shirley, Peter, Gabe, and others... > Thomas WELSH raised Ephriam Cole MITCHELL >and at least one daughter who I believe was Mary NEVILL. I also found a >Margaret NEVILLE on an 1813 list of school children in Charlotteville Twp. >where Thomas WELSH lived so she could also be a possible child of >Martha Nevill. So what I don't know for sure is when Thomas WELSH said >in his petition that as I know that Moses was not living there at that time. >John NEVILL himself stayed in Humberstone Twp. some distance away. > Paddy and others in the Canadian Neville lines, Some of the names related to the Nevills in the Canadian posts are amazing because the same surnames were in the Natchez Territory in MS. I think some of the Natchez folks were almost certainly related to some of your Ontario families. When I saw the Ephraim Cole Mitchell in Paddy's post above, I got real excited. However, I finally realized I was thinkin of Ephraim COLEMAN. His land bounded Philip Nevills' land on COLE's Creek in Jefferson Co., MS (which was formerly located in Natchez Territory). Philip's claim was located 15 miles above Fort Panmure and bound by the lands of Ephraim Coleman, Benjamin Fletcher, John Stampley, John Clark, and William Thomas. I believe Philip to be the same person of that name in the MD/PA Rev. War patriot soldier records. Ephraim Coleman was part of the Swayze brothers' Presbyterian settlement which went to Natchez from New Jersey in the 1770s or 1780s. Paul and others who have posted their Canadian Neville families to the list also show connections with the Swayzies in Canada. I wonder if the Canadian Swayzies also came from NJ? I checked the index to the Natchez Court records for Cole first names but not find an Ephraim. There were Coles in the Cole's Creek area. I am posting one of the Natchez references on the Coles and Osbornes, since Paddy has both names in her line. (Did I just imagine I saw an Issac Johnson in one of the Canadian Neville posts? I went back through them and could not find the name. That is another name related to our MS Nevill/Nevels.) Natchez Court Records 1767-1805 by May Wilson McBee, p. 29 Book A, p. 228, 28 Dec. 1784. Notice received of the death of Joanna Osborn, widow of late Samuel Osborn and since wife of Elijah Routh, said Joanna died at Cole's Creek and left 4 children, 2 sons and 2 daus. lawful issue by her first marriage, the boys Samuel and Boyd, one 14 and the other 11; the daus. Sarah and Buldah [Huldah?]. Curators appointed; Isaac Johnson and James Truly, of district, who accepted the charge. p. 229, 28 Dec. 1784. Appraisers of above estate Richard Harrison and John Burnet, both residents and planters of sd District, who accepted. (p. 230) Jany. 1, 1785. Inventory and appraised $2435. Nothing more being found on account of Elijah Routh, last husband of the deceased Joanna Osborn, having absconded on 26 of last month, taking two children, Samuel and Boyd, three slaves and seven horses and sundry other effects, belonging to the four minors. Signed James Truly and Isaac Johnson. Wit: John Burnet, Jno. Joseph Rodriguez. Trevino // p. 230, 3 Jany. 1785. Plantation to James Elliot, Thos. M. Green, surety. Other buyers: Gibson Clark, surety John Burnet; James Armstrong; James Elliott; Thomas Calvit; George Killion - surety John Stille, Abner Green - Thomas M. Green; Thomas M. Green - Abner Green; James Armstrong - John Burner; William Ferguson - Richard Devall; Jeremiah Brian - James Elliott; James Truly - Jeremiah Brian; Manuel Texada - Estavan Minor; Estevan Minor - James Elliot; William Ferbens - Richd. Devall; John Terry .... Total $3003. My note: Manuel Texada was the son-in-law of Philip Nevill. Estevan Minor was Stephen Minor, the eldest son of William Minor of Greene Co., PA; Wm. Minor was from Lyme, Connecticut, and was the last Governor under Spanish rule in the Natchez District. (p. 598, McBee) Another note of interest, since Paul shows a Green link. According to the McBee book, Thomas M. Green, above, was from VA, but emigrated to Georgia and South Carolina with his son-in-law Cato West. Next, Green represented Georgia interests in taking over the Natchez Territory from the Spanish. (Georgia claimed much of the Spanish Mississippi area as its own and did not want to recognize Spain's right to the territory.) Others from the Georgia/SC area are said to have come with him. Because some of the Nevills in the Bath/Beaufort Co., NC area may have gone to Georgia, I thought this worth mentioning. Since Greens lived near our Nevels in MS, I have wondered if my Nevels from South Carolina went to MS because of Thomas M. Green. The Spanish were a little peeved when Thomas M. Green showed up with intentions of claiming land under a GA claim. Because he would not give up, they finally put him in jail in New Orleans but felt sorry for him when his wife died, and they released him. They liked the sitution of his land so well that the Spanish governor Gayoso established his headquarters on Green's plantation. Jan

Sorry. I accidentally sent the previous post on Nevill/Alston before I finished checking data. In the following statement, a correction needs to be made: Since the Nevels had a connection with the Dromgooles in MS [This is a mistake; I should have stated, "Since the ROBERTS had a connection with the Dromgooles in MS], since the Nevels in MS also had Roberts' connections, and since William Nevills and Martin Nevills, who were in Sumner Co., TN, moved to Jefferson Co. and Warren Co., MS (part of earlier Natchez District) where our Nevels relatives were (who also have William and Martin Nevels), you can see why I am interested in possible Alston connections with Nevills, even in Canada.

Paul, In Paddy's 3/19 posting in which she answered some of your questions, she responded as follows: > >3) Your March 11th post: > You ask if I said "something about Alston's"? No I did not. > I think I mentioned Alstons in my post about similar surnames of possible Loyalists in the Natchez District (now Mississippi) controlled at various times by France, England, and Spain before the U.S. took possession. The Alstons and Dromgooles were related, and a Dromgoole had a loose family connection with our Nevels family in Mississippi. A profile on the Alstons, who were Loyalists, is in The Natchez Court Records by May W. McBee. I will be glad to transcribe it and send it by private e-mail if you are interested. The Alstons were from North Carolina and lived in the area where both Loyalists and Patriots lived. I have seen them in many records in the same areas where the Nevilles lived in Halifax/Granville/Orange Co., NC. Philip Alston, one of the subjects of the profile, is thought to have lived in Wake Co., NC before moving to the Natchez District. The author of the profile says it is not improbable that Alston came to the Natchez District with Anthony Hutchins. (It helps to have a map when studying the Alstons.) The profile states that Philip Alston had to flee from the Natchez to the Cumberland settlement near Nashville, TN after a little Loyalist insurrection in Natchez in 1781. This move is verified what has been found in research on William Nevills who lived in Sumner Co., TN in the area called "the Cumberland." Philip Alston and a Dromgoole son-in-law were in the Sumner Co., TN area, where they are in records. They were also in Logan Co. KY, where they surveyed for William Roberts who owned property across the state line in Logan Co., KY. (Sumner Co., TN and Logan Co., KY are next to each other.) Since the Nevels had a connection with the Dromgooles in MS, since the Nevels in MS also had Roberts' connections, and since William Nevills and Martin Nevills, who were in Sumner Co., TN, moved to Jefferson Co. and Warren Co., MS (part of earlier Natchez District) where our Nevels relatives were (who also have William and Martin Nevels), you can see why I am interested in possible Alston connections with Nevills, even in Canada. Jan

This originally was posted to the COMBS-L List on Rootsweb. The follow paragraphs (not connected) were part of a family group record concerning the COMBS family of Shenandoah Co., VA. (Combs is a line in my wife's family.) I post this to the list because of the references to Neville, Bayless, Catlett, Calmes, Blakemore Richardson & other related families. There are other references to the Calmes family, etc. if anyone is interested, but the Neville & Blakemore are what really caught my eye. This information was posted by Birdie McNutt <[email protected]> The information is abstracted from: "A HISTORY of Shenandoah County Virginia" by John W. Wayland, PH. D. Author of A History of Rockingham County, Virginia, Scenic and Historical Guide to the Shenandoah Valley, Art Folio of the Shenandoah Valley, Historic Landmarks of the Shenandoah Valley, The Fairfax Line, Etc. Second Edition, Regional Publishing Company, Originally published by Shenandoah Publishing House, Inc. Strasburg, Virginia 1927 Second Edition: Strasburg, 1969 Pages 631 through 634 RICHARDSON, BUCK, HALL and COMBS Families If anyone wants the whole abstraction of pages 631-634, contact me privately & I can forward that information to you. Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) [email protected] ___________________________________________________ (4) Charles BUCK and Mary RICHARDSON were pioneers of Woodford county, Ky., which county he represented in the Kentucky house of representatives, 1809-1809. They had: Letitia, married George CATLETT; Rev. Thomas, married Amelia DAWSON; Samuel married Mary BAYLEY; John, married Sarah CATLETT; Charles L., Married Lucy BAYLESS, among their descendants being Charles William BUCK, U.S. minister to Peru, 1885-1889, and writer, and his son, Charles Neville BUCK, novelist; Rev. William C., founder of the Baptist Recorder (first Baptist newspaper west ot the Alleghanies and said to be the leading Baptist newspaper in America), married (1) Miss Fenright and (2) Marian BUCK; Mary, married Dr. William BAYLEY. (6) Capt. Thomas BUCK and Ann RICHARDSON had: William Richardson, married Lucy Neville BLAKEMORE; Marcus Calmes, married Elizabeth DRAKE; Dr. Isaac Newton; Heneritta Chew, married Spencer N. CALMES; Isabella Richardson, married Hezekiah CONN; Mary Ann, married George BAYLEY; Rebecca Richardson, married William Richardson ASHBY; Elizabeth Richardson, married George Neville BLAKEMORE; Letitia Richardson, married John M. BLAKEMORE.

Hello, Just joined your list, so this is my first post seeking help on the NEVILLS family that lived in Binbrook, Hamilton/Wentworth Co., Ontario, Canada. William Alexander NEVILLS was born 10 October 1842 to William and Pamelia Davis NEVILLS. Have found references saying he was born London or Binbrook. In 1865 he married Esther SWAYZE and they became the parents of five children. By 1876 William was living in California and short time later was married to a Ruth J. Would like to hear from anyone who might have connection to this family. Thank you very much... Phyllis Hembree Twain Harte, CA e-mail [email protected]