Ryan, I did a request for a lookup in USGenweb, but no reply yet. Anyway, as to the Elijah, Ph(ebe) and Sarah question........... Marriage Jasper Co............Elijah Neaville and Sarah Owen Apr 7, 1864 Could this be my missing Elijah? And therefore the Sarah on Elijah Field Neavill's death certificate? I need to look in Jasper CO for Elijah and some of his kids??? Also you gave me one time a Wayne Co marriage between Phebe Neville and John Malone in 1880. Could this be the wife or daughter Phebe in this family? I had the daughter Phebe possibly married to a James Doty in 1876, but then I found a James Doty (same age) living alone with his parents in 1880? I was never quite sure about this connection??. Need to look up John Malone in Wayne Co [or nearby] in 1880 or 1900 to see if his wife Phebe had parents born in the right places? Is everybody busy with spring cleaning? I haven't got any notes for a few days? ____ Barbara

Hi folks, this is a neat note I found while looking for my Taylors in Mason. Its neat for me because my Brown family and my Lemaster family are so intermarried and here I find the Lemasters with Neville as well. Can anyone enlighten me on this Neville family? I'm including a second note from the same man about the Newell family. >Seek info on the LEMASTER family of Mason County, (W)VA. Richard LEMASTER was b. in 1810 in VA, m. Barbara NEWELL on 31 Dec 1840 in Mason County, and d. on 31 Aug 1881 in Mason County. Their children included: Lucretia m. Benjamin RHODES; Elizabeth m. Wm. WOODS; Rebecca m. Alexander CLONCH; Nancy Ann m. Austin NEVILLE; Mary Ellen m. Alexander CLONCH as well as his brother John William CLONCH; Druzilla m. Sauel RHODES; Barbara Alice;and another child. Ralph Hayes, 413 Reclining Acres, Corrales, NM 87048 >Seek info on the NEWELL family of Mason County, (W)VA. John NEWELL was b. c1788/89 in VA, m. Elizabeth _____ and died 1855-1860, probably in Mason Co., (W) VA. Children included Margaret m.Benjamin LONGANACKER, Drisilla m. Jno. MONROE, Barbara m. Richard LEMASTER, another dau, Willis S. m. Nancy HIGGENBOTHAM, Elijah Franklin m. Sarah MORRISON, and another son. John was a farmer. Ralph Hayes, 413 Reclining ACRES, Corrales, NM 87048 or e-mail [email protected]

Just a tid bit from the TN Archives as of this week: Bible Records of Families of East Tennessee Vol. 4, 1963 Knoxville Chapter of Daughters of the American Colonists, compiled by Adele Weiss Sneed of 1625 Laurel Avenue, Knoxville, TN. Bible owned by Mrs Harvey C. Alexander (Note: as of 1963) of Glencort (Glencourt??) Apts, Bell Mead Blvd. Nashville, TN. Information copied by Mr. and Mrs Arthur A. Thompson The Old Testament, etc. Philadelphia Printed and Published by M. Carvey of No 101 Chesnut (Chestnut??) Street, 1815. A mimeograph edition. James L. Alexander was married to Eugenia C. Nevill July 4, 1849. Hope this might help someone. Regards, Tom

Paddy Chitty wrote: > I found this interesting because in my Canadian research I have come > across a Mitchell Nevill here and always wondered if he was one of mine > because of the Mitchell first name. I thought he may have been a > son of one of Moses NEVILL's sons being as the wife of Moses was Elizabeth > MITCHELL. If you would be interested in what little I have on this > individual I could look it up and send it along. Isn't much but being > as it is a rather unusual name I thought you might be interested. The Mitchell in my database was the son of Presley NEVILLE and his wife Georgia MITCHELL. Presley was a descendant of George NEAVILLE of Effingham County, Illinois. I don't think there is any connection between these two Mitchells. Ryan

Sandy is not a subscriber, so I am forwarding her query to the list. Please notify her by private e-mail (and also the list if you desire) if you have any leads she can follow on her line. Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) [email protected] ---------- From: Sandy Gutierrez <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Question Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 9:13 PM I am not sure if subscribing would be the right move. First I would like to ask a question of the subscribers. I am looking for information on a John Neville (Nevel) that married a Sarah Lucinda Bright in either WV (VA) or OH shortly before 1864. Does anyone have this person in their line they had two children together who either died or stayed with their father. Please email me directly. Thank you!!

Frances Asbury Brown's daughter, Edy, married Jesse Van Hoose whose uncle was Owen Bryan of Washington Co VA (b.ca 1780). I'm finding Owens with the Rectors and Bryan(t)s (Nevilles here and there) I'm researching. When I saw Boogher mentioned, I thought I'd pass along the note!! -----Original Message----- From: Jo Anna Dale <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:00 PM Subject: Owen genealogy? > I have come across a reference to a genealogy of the Owen Family of >Frederick County, Maryland by a W. F. Boogher. Does anyone know about >this? Is it a published book of some kind? Where can I get a copy, or is >it out of print? I believe this refers to the family of the Rev. Robert >Owen of Prince Georges Parish. I would like to find out about this >genealogy. Please let me hear. Thankks for your help. Jo Anna Dale, 704 >Ponca Drive, Independence3 MO 64056-2053, <[email protected]> > >

Paddy, If your John was married already to Martha Mitchel, then I'm sure that this isn't your John. I confess that I've never developed a good grasp/understanding of your Harford County Nevilles. Would it be possible to get copies of any family group sheets that you may have put together? ...or anything else that would help me understand your line better? Also, you are clearly working with alot of records that I've never seen. If it's easy for you (don't create anything just for me) could I get copies of the records on which you've based your findings? Peter ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ ------------------------------------------------ >X-Message: #7 >Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: Paddy Chitty ><[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Cecil Co, MD insolvents and paupers >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 [email protected] wrote: > >> Paddy, Jan and anyone else following the latest round of "head >of the > Chesapeake Nevilles" >> >> Speaking of insolvents etc, I've always been kinda bothered by >the John > Neavil pauper record below from Cecil Co. Who in the >world is Lucy Nash? > He's always struck me as an "extra John" >in the Cecil/Harford County area, > though he may "belong" to >paddy or me. Is it possible, do you think, that > he is the >John that went to Canada with Paddy's Moses? Could this be the > > Bush River Harford Co. John Nevel (7 years old in 1776) that may >have been > an orphan? > >You can have him Peter, I already have one John Nevil I don't know >what to do with <g>. >> >> Bettie Carothers, 1783 Tax List of Maryland, Part I, Cecil, >Talbot, > Harford & Calvert Counties (l977) >> 1783 Tax Cecil Co >> p22 >> John NEAVIL & Lucy Nash, paupers, 9 whites [paupers=owned > > less than 10 pounds worth of property] >Perhaps I am misunderstanding the dates here but would this John >NEAVIL, if he was the one who was 7 in 1776, only be 14 yrs. old in >1783? >My John NEVIL was married to Martha MITCHELL. > >Paddy >

Shirley and Peter, Mention has already been made that the Seny family may have been Huguenot. In the following will abstract which Shirley posted, one of the witnesses was Henry Ravenelt. The Ravenel/Ravenell family was part of the Huguenot group who were in Charleston with the de Neufvilles. Some of the Huguenot surnames in Charleston are also found in the New Rochelle, NY group where the other de Neufville group was. You may have already noticed this, but I thought it worth mentioning since that NY group might be related in some way to the group you are discussing. I have not checked for Ravenels in the NY group. Jan Wills, Vol. 22, P.D. No. 1, 1738-42 [Also looked at will in Box 9, Folder 19] p353 Will of Walter Nevill, Q Anne's Co., 7 Apr 1739; 7 May 1741; To son John plantation where I now live & 106 "Smith's Addition," 75A "South Hampton," & 40A "Barton," at death of my wife Bridget; to son David 150A called "Jumeca"; personalty to son Walter & daus. Rachel & Mary Seny & son-in-law Solomon Seny. Test: John Hayes Jr, John Johnson & Henry Ravenelt.

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 [email protected] wrote: > Paddy, Jan and anyone else following the latest round of "head of the > Chesapeake Nevilles" > > Speaking of insolvents etc, I've always been kinda bothered by the John > Neavil pauper record below from Cecil Co. Who in the world is Lucy Nash? > He's always struck me as an "extra John" in the Cecil/Harford County area, > though he may "belong" to paddy or me. Is it possible, do you think, that > he is the John that went to Canada with Paddy's Moses? Could this be the > Bush River Harford Co. John Nevel (7 years old in 1776) that may have been > an orphan? You can have him Peter, I already have one John Nevil I don't know what to do with <g>. > > Bettie Carothers, 1783 Tax List of Maryland, Part I, Cecil, Talbot, > Harford & Calvert Counties (l977) > 1783 Tax Cecil Co > p22 > John NEAVIL & Lucy Nash, paupers, 9 whites [paupers=owned > less than 10 pounds worth of property] Perhaps I am misunderstanding the dates here but would this John NEAVIL, if he was the one who was 7 in 1776, only be 14 yrs. old in 1783? My John NEVIL was married to Martha MITCHELL. Paddy

Paddy, Jan and anyone else following the latest round of "head of the Chesapeake Nevilles" Speaking of insolvents etc, I've always been kinda bothered by the John Neavil pauper record below from Cecil Co. Who in the world is Lucy Nash? He's always struck me as an "extra John" in the Cecil/Harford County area, though he may "belong" to paddy or me. Is it possible, do you think, that he is the John that went to Canada with Paddy's Moses? Could this be the Bush River Harford Co. John Nevel (7 years old in 1776) that may have been an orphan? Bettie Carothers, 1783 Tax List of Maryland, Part I, Cecil, Talbot, Harford & Calvert Counties (l977) 1783 Tax Cecil Co p22 John NEAVIL & Lucy Nash, paupers, 9 whites [paupers=owned less than 10 pounds worth of property] Peter ------------------reply separator----------------------------------- X-Message: #5 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:37:16 -0500 (EST) From: Paddy Chitty <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] John NEVILL of Harford & Mrs. Burns (2) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Peter: On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 [email protected] wrote: > I could swear that I once collected a record of a Ruth Nevil and some other Neville being orphans and adopted by someone. I'll check my stack of less organized records and see what I can find. I really appreciate your help, thank you. I keep wondering if the William Nevell on a 1768 list of insolvents in St. Mary Anns Parish, Cecil Co. could possibly be the father of Ruth and John. I keep thinking that maybe the mother died and things were just too much for him so he skipped out leaving the children with Mrs. Burns. > As for the 1790 Census, there is no record of a Mary Burns or a Mathew Burns in Maryland. > There is a Mathew Barnes in Charles Co (3 white males 16+, 1 white male under 16, 5 white females and 2 slaves). I don't know how good a candidate he would be. I really don't think the above is relavant; just a feeling. > There are three records for Mary Burns in Pennsylvania: Northampton County (the current Northampton Co is on the Eastern border of I am now tracing the route the party took from Harford through PA to see if they could have passed through Northampton or PA where they could have picked up Mrs. Burns. My geographic prowess is second only to my mathematical skills so it could be an interesting trip <g>. Tomorrow is my day to volunteer at the FHC and I am going to try to get up early before the throngs arrive so I can get my hands on a reader long enough to check the Canadian records for Upper Canada Land Petitions in the hope that Mrs. Burns petitioned for land. I can't imagine that she would not have done, John, Moses, Thomas Welsh and even old Hannah Mitchell did. If she did it could possibly state her relationship to John. One can hope. Thanks sincerely for your help. Paddy ______________________________

On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 [email protected] wrote: > Paddy and others, > > If you think that your Maryland Burns might actually be Barnes/Barns, > I would recommend contacting Robert Barnes. He has published several > books on MD genealogy and, of course, is a Barnes. I'm guessing that > you can contact him at [email protected] or (410)260-6410. > If that doesn't work, let me know and I'll track him down for you. > Hi Peter, No I do not believe it is Barnes; in fact I will say I 100% believe it is not. Today I searched what limited resources I could at the FHC and found the following: BURNS, Mary 1794 Lake Erie Upper Canada Land Petitions B1/56 and in Public Records and Archives of Ontario, 1929, pg. 67 "7 June 1794 - Burns, Mary: Petition for 200 acres of land in the Township of Sugarloaf East. Ordered that the Surveyor General be directed to assign the same." The Sugarloaf Settlement was on Lake Erie and was also where Moses NEVILL, John NEVILL, and Hannah MITCHELL, their mother-in-law, all received grants of land. Hannah MITCHELL also died in that settlement. I feel quite confident that the above mentioned Mary BURNS is the same person who accompanied the Nevill & Welsh party to Canada. I will now have to look at the original land petition and the land records for the property to see what I can learn. Thanks for the Barnes info. above. I will file it as a just in case measure. I truly appreciate your help Peter, thank you. Paddy

Jan, I think Harrodsburg, KY was meant, not Harrodsburg, PA. Harrodsburg is currently in Mercer Co., KY which was formed in 1786 from Lincoln. Some of the land James owned fell into Mercer Co. James came to Lincoln Co. in the Fall of 1779 according to his Rev War Pension. FHL #191810 Mercer Co, KY Deed Book 2, 1793-7 p256-7 Indenture 26 Aug 1794 between James Navel & wife Sarah of Lincoln Co & Jacob Ingleman of same; for 50 pounds the Nevells sell to Ingleman, 200A in Mercer Co on Chaplains fork; land bounds on Wilsons line. James Nevell Sarah (mark) Nevell I have no evidence that James ever lived in PA. As an aside, my William Neville (m Wineford Oldham) who was probably the brother of James, but came to KY later, also was in Lincoln/Mercer records before Barren (formed 1799 from Green & Warren). William's daughter Malinda (my ancestress) m David Thompson 3 Dec 1796 in Mercer Co, KY. Shirley Wilcox ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Please amend what I sent previously to show: David, son of Walter & Bridget (m2 Wm Primrose) Nevill I have an additional daughter for Walter & Bridget Nevill which Peter does not show. That is Margaret who m(1) Richard Wise 27 Dec 1736, QA Co, MD & m(2) Solomon Wyatt/Wiatt 8 Jly 1741 QA Co, MD. Peter, I looked at some MD marriage records & did find the surname Larey or Lary. Peter, the Elizabeth, wife of David Nevil in 1785, may be Elizabeth Swift, daughter of Gideon Swift. (Harper, MD Mar Clues v2). I do not know the names of David's parents. Shirley Wilcox ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Paddy and others, If you think that your Maryland Burns might actually be Barnes/Barns, I would recommend contacting Robert Barnes. He has published several books on MD genealogy and, of course, is a Barnes. I'm guessing that you can contact him at [email protected] or (410)260-6410. If that doesn't work, let me know and I'll track him down for you. Peter ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: NEVILLE-D Digest V99 #74 Author: <[email protected]> at SMTP-GATEWAY Date: 3/23/99 8:23 PM X-Message: #8 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:05:07 -0500 (EST) From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] John NEVILL of Harford & Mrs. Burns (2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Peter and Paddy, I have the following from notes Shriley made on the Harford Co. Nevills: Census of 1776 for Caroline, Dorchester, Harford, Queen Anne & Talbot Cos. [handwritten] p. 72 Bush River Harford Co., 1776 Mathew Burris ae 60 Mary Barns ae 41 Ruth Nevel ae 10 John Nevel ae 7 The above census information is about the same people in the Brumbaugh census: Brumbaugh, Gais Marcus. Maryland Recores. Lancaster Pa. Lancaster Press, Inc. Vol. 2. 1828. indexed p. 171 1776 Harford Lower Hundred, Harford Co. Burns, Mathew (tax), 60 Mary, 41 NEVEL, Ruth, 10 NEVEL, John, 7 Shirley also made notes on Dublin Methodist Cemetery in Harford Co. Both Neville and Barns are buried in the cemeter. The Nevilles buried in the cemetery are as follows: John Neville, son of D. and Ann Taylor, Jan. 19, 1845 - July 8, 1854 George B. Neville, Dec. 30, 1830 - March 4, 1862 S. N. ??? William Neville, Jan. 7, 1783 - Oct. 28. 1822 Cassandra Neville, March 12, 1786 - April 10, 1855 M. A. Nevill, de this L in August AD 1828 E.M.N. John Neville, June 26, 1787 - Sept. 26, 1861 Elizabeth A. Neville, Jan. 18, 1797 - Dec. 8, 1873 The Barns buried in the cemetery (in same section as Nevilles) are as follows: Hiram Barns (marker 26) John A. Barns (GAR marker) Frances Barns (GAR marker) Thomas Barns, Defender of Baltimore in 1812 While Matthew might have been a Burris or a Burns, I wonder if Barns/Barnes would be the correct transcription for him, as well as for Mary? Jan At 11:04 AM 3/23/99 -0500, you wrote: > Paddy and others, > > I could swear that I once collected a record of a Ruth Nevil and some other > Neville being orphans and adopted by someone. I'll check my stack of less > organized records and see what I can find. > > As for the 1790 Census, there is no record of a Mary Burns or a Mathew > Burns in Maryland. > > There is a Mathew Barnes in Charles Co (3 white males 16+, 1 white male > under 16, 5 white females and 2 slaves). I don't know how good a candidate > he would be. > > There are three records for Mary Burns in Pennsylvania: > Northampton County (the current Northampton Co is on the Eastern border of > the State and dead center North-South-wise -- I don't know what the 1790 > bounderies were) > Lower Saucon Township > Mary Burns and 2 other free persons > > Northampton County (not returned by township) > Mary Burns and 2 other free persons (my note: looks kinda like a double > count to me) > > Philadelphia, Northern District between Vine and Race Streets and from > Delaware River to the Schuylkill River > Mary Burns, 1 white male 16+, 1 white female > > Hope this helps. > > Peter > > > ============================================================ ==== > > >X-Message: #3 > <Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:36:27 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: > >[NEVILLE-L] John NEVILL of Harford & Mrs. Burns > > > >In a recent posting to the list I mentioned discovering for the first > >time that a Mrs. Burns is mentioned on a page in the trip diary of > >Thomas WELSH dated 1793 when he and the families of Moses NEVILL and > >John NEVILL left Harford Co., MD for Canada. The name was included > >on an itemized list of goods weighed for transport (I believe to > >cross Lake Ontario from Oshwego N.Y. to Kingston, ON). I don't know > >how I missed it in the past but can only think it was because of > >where it was in the diary and my aversion to all things mathematical. > > Anyway, the name is clearly Mrs. Burns and it was written by Thomas > >WELSH, a well educated intelligent man and the brother-in-law of both > >John and > >Moses NEVILL, all 3 men being married to Mitchell sisters. So > >presumably Welsh knew who the lady in question was and how to spell > >her name so I > >am satisfied that the name is Burns. > > > >I began searching my files and found the following which Shirley > >Wilcox had kindly given me: > > > >Brumbaugh, Gais Marcus. Maryland Recores. Lancaster Pa. Lancaster > >Press, Inc. Vol. 2. 1828. indexed > >p. 171 1776 Harford Lower Hundred, Harford Co. > >Burns, Mathew (tax), 60 > >Mary, 41 > >NEVEL, Ruth, 10 > >NEVEL, John, 7 > > > >I think it very likely that the John NEVIL and Mary BURNS mentioned > >above are the same two people who accompanied Thomas WELSH to Canada > >in 1793. > >I still do not know the relationship between John NEVILL and Moses > >NEVILL. > > > >I have already run this past Shirley Wilcox and Jan Faulkner and for > >their thoughts and wonder if anyone else on the list can connect to > >John NEVILL and Mrs. Burns? This is the best lead I have had in a > >long time and proof that you should periodically go over your files. > > > >John and Ruth could be orphaned children of a relative of Mrs. Burns, > >her own illegit. children if she was born a NEVILL, or she could be > >their mother in a second marriage. > > > >Peter Neville has kindly sent me the Nevilles in MD on the 1790 > >census and none match John who should have had a wife, a daughter and > >1 male under 16 who would have been his wife's son Ephriam Cole > >MITCHELL. Now I am thinking that perhaps he was still living in the > >household of Mrs. Burns in 1790 and will ask Peter if he could check > >this out for me. > > > >If anyone can shed any light on who Mary BURNS might be it would be > >very helpful. Thank you. > > > >Paddy > >in Ontario, Canada > > > >______________________________ > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. 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Sources for David & Martha Nevil of St. Luke's Parish. DAVID NEVIL son of Walter & Bridget (Primrose) Nevill? b. ?c1723 m 28 Sept 1758, St Luke's Parish, Queen Anne Co, MD, Mrs. Martha (Laurence) Wharton, widow of William Wharton?. d by March 1769?, Queen Annee Co, MD Wills, Vol. 22, P.D. No. 1, 1738-42 [Also looked at will in Box 9, Folder 19] p353 Will of Walter Nevill, Q Anne's Co., 7 Apr 1739; 7 May 1741; To son John plantation where I now live & 106 "Smith's Addition," 75A "South Hampton," & 40A "Barton," at death of my wife Bridget; to son David 150A called "Jumeca"; personalty to son Walter & daus. Rachel & Mary Seny & son-in-law Solomon Seny. Test: John Hayes Jr, John Johnson & Henry Ravenelt. COMMENT: In 1762 David Nevill was gdn of Walter Nevill a minor who had the 3 pieces of property given to John in the above will. (Leonard. QA Land Rec 1755-63, p93) R Bernice Leonard, Queen Ann's Co MD Land Records 1743-55 (St Michaels, MD) p33 15 Sept 1750, 9 Oct 1750. David Nevil, planter to John Allen Wooddell, planter for 112 lbs sells 150A called "Jamaica" lying in Talbot Co but now in Q Anne's on a branch of Hambleton's Cr in Chester River. Acknowledged to Wm Hopper & Thos Hammond. Alienation fine, 6 sh paid to Richard Tilghman. Henry C Peden, Jr, More Maryland Deponents 1716-1799 (Westminister, MD: Family Line Publications, 1992) p78 Nevil, Davis, age 31 in 1754 (QA 2:385-6) COMMENT: I know of no one with a first name Davis; this is likely David. I have not seen the original record. F Edward Wright, MD Eastern Shore Vital Records 1751-75 (Family Lines, 1984) p20 St Luke's Parish, Q Anne's Co William Wharton & Martha Laurence, m 8-18-1752, published p23 David Nevill & Martha Wharton, 9-28-1758 License Administrator's Account 1762-1763, Vol. 48 p336-37 14/3/2? Second additional account of David Nevill & Martha his wife administratrix of William Wharton late of Q Ann's Co dec'd. They gave allowance for current money due from said dec'd to Margaret Robins now wife of Wm Hayward dated 22 Mch 1756 for 10 lb currency: 11.16.0 Heirs of dec'd, Martha who m David Nevill, & 4 children: George 14 on 12 Jly last Ann, 10 on 3 Mch last Mary about 8 years Esther about 6 years V L Skinner, Jr, Abstracts of the Inventories of the Prerogative Court of Maryland, Volumes 101-109, 1769-1772 (1988) p42 David Nevil, 104:213, QA, L29.5.7; 6 Mch 1769, 9 Aug 1770. Appraisers: John Brown, Benjamin Gould Creditors: Bishop & Walters, Joseph Sudler Next of Kin: Walter Nevill, James Nevil Administrator: Vinson Benton Accounts 1770, Vol. 63 p368 Additional account of Vinson Benton, administrator of David Nevill, late of Queen Ann's Co. dec'd, 4 July 1771. Heirs: Martha, wife of William Sarey who was the widow, & 4 children vizt: George Nevill of age, Ann, wife of William Young Jr., Mary & Hester under age. COMMENT: Although he is called George Nevill, was he really George Wharton? Inventories, Queen Anne Co., Vol. 104, 1770 p213 Inventory of estate of David Nevill, late of Queen Anne Co. 6 Mch 1769: 29.5.7 1/2 Creditors: Bishop G Walters, Joseph Sudtor Appraisers: John Brown, Benj Gould Kin: Walter Nevill, James (mark) Nevil p213-4 9 Aug 1770. Vinson Benton, admin. of David Nevil, late of this co. dec'd swears to inventory. "The Wheat which grew on the Plantation of the widow of David Nevil kept & wood under no account to the admr it having been sown on hands which she claimed before marriage." R Bernice Leonard, Queen Ann's County MD Land Records 1763-1768 (St Michaels, MD, 1996) p86 24 Sept 1767, 27 Nov 1767 Joseph Sudler & James Massey appointed to view & value 570A called "Wharton's Adventure" - the right of George Wharton a minor under the care of Sophia Roberts, his gdn - find on one part where David Nevill now lives, one old dwelling house... On another settlement where Thomas Taylor now lives, one dwelling house... Estimate the annual value to be 1100 pounds of tobacco clear of quitrents & necessary repairs & in case the deceased William Wharton's widow dies before the aforesaid George Wharton is of age... Irma Sweitzer Harper, MD Marriage Clues, Volume 2 (St Michaels, MD, 1981) p37 Larey, William to Martha wid of David Nevill (QA) Md accts 63/376, 1771 Shirley Wilcox ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

On Tue, 23 Mar 1999, Jan & David Faulkner wrote: > Peter and Paddy, Thanks for the additional information Jan. > > The Barns buried in the cemetery (in same section as Nevilles) are as follows: > Hiram Barns (marker 26) > John A. Barns (GAR marker) > Frances Barns (GAR marker) > Thomas Barns, Defender of Baltimore in 1812 > > While Matthew might have been a Burris or a Burns, I wonder if Barns/Barnes > would be the correct transcription for him, as well as for Mary? I might tend to think this if anyone but Thomas WELSH had been writing the name. However, I can't help thinking that with all the Mitchell connections to the Barnes family, and Thomas WELSH's wife being a Mitchell, that he would not have written Burns in the diary if her name was actually Barnes. When I check the Upper Canada Land Petitions I will check for Burns, Barnes and Burris. I suspect that Burris was actually Burns as I can see how easlily a poorly written Burns could look like Burris. Thank you very much Jan for all your help and work on my behalf. Paddy

Peter and Paddy, I have the following from notes Shriley made on the Harford Co. Nevills: Census of 1776 for Caroline, Dorchester, Harford, Queen Anne & Talbot Cos. [handwritten] p. 72 Bush River Harford Co., 1776 Mathew Burris ae 60 Mary Barns ae 41 Ruth Nevel ae 10 John Nevel ae 7 The above census information is about the same people in the Brumbaugh census: Brumbaugh, Gais Marcus. Maryland Recores. Lancaster Pa. Lancaster Press, Inc. Vol. 2. 1828. indexed p. 171 1776 Harford Lower Hundred, Harford Co. Burns, Mathew (tax), 60 Mary, 41 NEVEL, Ruth, 10 NEVEL, John, 7 Shirley also made notes on Dublin Methodist Cemetery in Harford Co. Both Neville and Barns are buried in the cemeter. The Nevilles buried in the cemetery are as follows: John Neville, son of D. and Ann Taylor, Jan. 19, 1845 - July 8, 1854 George B. Neville, Dec. 30, 1830 - March 4, 1862 S. N. ??? William Neville, Jan. 7, 1783 - Oct. 28. 1822 Cassandra Neville, March 12, 1786 - April 10, 1855 M. A. Nevill, de this L in August AD 1828 E.M.N. John Neville, June 26, 1787 - Sept. 26, 1861 Elizabeth A. Neville, Jan. 18, 1797 - Dec. 8, 1873 The Barns buried in the cemetery (in same section as Nevilles) are as follows: Hiram Barns (marker 26) John A. Barns (GAR marker) Frances Barns (GAR marker) Thomas Barns, Defender of Baltimore in 1812 While Matthew might have been a Burris or a Burns, I wonder if Barns/Barnes would be the correct transcription for him, as well as for Mary? Jan At 11:04 AM 3/23/99 -0500, you wrote: > Paddy and others, > > I could swear that I once collected a record of a Ruth Nevil and some other > Neville being orphans and adopted by someone. I'll check my stack of less > organized records and see what I can find. > > As for the 1790 Census, there is no record of a Mary Burns or a Mathew > Burns in Maryland. > > There is a Mathew Barnes in Charles Co (3 white males 16+, 1 white male > under 16, 5 white females and 2 slaves). I don't know how good a candidate > he would be. > > There are three records for Mary Burns in Pennsylvania: > Northampton County (the current Northampton Co is on the Eastern border of > the State and dead center North-South-wise -- I don't know what the 1790 > bounderies were) > Lower Saucon Township > Mary Burns and 2 other free persons > > Northampton County (not returned by township) > Mary Burns and 2 other free persons (my note: looks kinda like a double > count to me) > > Philadelphia, Northern District between Vine and Race Streets and from > Delaware River to the Schuylkill River > Mary Burns, 1 white male 16+, 1 white female > > Hope this helps. > > Peter > > > ============================================================ > > >X-Message: #3 > <Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 19:36:27 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] > >To: NE[email protected] > >Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: > >[NEVILLE-L] John NEVILL of Harford & Mrs. Burns > > > >In a recent posting to the list I mentioned discovering for the first > >time that a Mrs. Burns is mentioned on a page in the trip diary of > >Thomas WELSH dated 1793 when he and the families of Moses NEVILL and > >John NEVILL left Harford Co., MD for Canada. The name was included > >on an itemized list of goods weighed for transport (I believe to > >cross Lake Ontario from Oshwego N.Y. to Kingston, ON). I don't know > >how I missed it in the past but can only think it was because of > >where it was in the diary and my aversion to all things mathematical. > > Anyway, the name is clearly Mrs. Burns and it was written by Thomas > >WELSH, a well educated intelligent man and the brother-in-law of both > >John and > >Moses NEVILL, all 3 men being married to Mitchell sisters. So > >presumably Welsh knew who the lady in question was and how to spell > >her name so I > >am satisfied that the name is Burns. > > > >I began searching my files and found the following which Shirley > >Wilcox had kindly given me: > > > >Brumbaugh, Gais Marcus. Maryland Recores. Lancaster Pa. Lancaster > >Press, Inc. Vol. 2. 1828. indexed > >p. 171 1776 Harford Lower Hundred, Harford Co. > >Burns, Mathew (tax), 60 > >Mary, 41 > >NEVEL, Ruth, 10 > >NEVEL, John, 7 > > > >I think it very likely that the John NEVIL and Mary BURNS mentioned > >above are the same two people who accompanied Thomas WELSH to Canada > >in 1793. > >I still do not know the relationship between John NEVILL and Moses > >NEVILL. > > > >I have already run this past Shirley Wilcox and Jan Faulkner and for > >their thoughts and wonder if anyone else on the list can connect to > >John NEVILL and Mrs. Burns? This is the best lead I have had in a > >long time and proof that you should periodically go over your files. > > > >John and Ruth could be orphaned children of a relative of Mrs. Burns, > >her own illegit. children if she was born a NEVILL, or she could be > >their mother in a second marriage. > > > >Peter Neville has kindly sent me the Nevilles in MD on the 1790 > >census and none match John who should have had a wife, a daughter and > >1 male under 16 who would have been his wife's son Ephriam Cole > >MITCHELL. Now I am thinking that perhaps he was still living in the > >household of Mrs. Burns in 1790 and will ask Peter if he could check > >this out for me. > > > >If anyone can shed any light on who Mary BURNS might be it would be > >very helpful. Thank you. > > > >Paddy > >in Ontario, Canada > > > >______________________________ > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. 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Hello Ryan: I was digging in the Rootsweb archives and came across a posting of yours regarding the PDF NEAVELL Book. What caught my eye was the following entry: > Neville, Mitchell I found this interesting because in my Canadian research I have come across a Mitchell Nevill here and always wondered if he was one of mine because of the Mitchell first name. I thought he may have been a son of one of Moses NEVILL's sons being as the wife of Moses was Elizabeth MITCHELL. If you would be interested in what little I have on this individual I could look it up and send it along. Isn't much but being as it is a rather unusual name I thought you might be interested. Paddy

Hi Peter & Shirley, I think there has been some confusion caused by my posting regarding Martha NEVILL who came to Canada. She was Martha MITCHELL who married John NEVILL and she was a daughter of Thomas Mitchell and Hannah Osborn. She came here as a married woman with two children: Ephriam Cole Mitchell and the other child was probably Mary NEVILL. I always thought that Mary was named for Martha's sister who was the wife of Thomas WELSH, however, it just occurred to me that she could have been named for Mary BURNS. Paddy

Hi Peter: On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 [email protected] wrote: > I could swear that I once collected a record of a Ruth Nevil and some other Neville being orphans and adopted by someone. I'll check my stack of less organized records and see what I can find. I really appreciate your help, thank you. I keep wondering if the William Nevell on a 1768 list of insolvents in St. Mary Anns Parish, Cecil Co. could possibly be the father of Ruth and John. I keep thinking that maybe the mother died and things were just too much for him so he skipped out leaving the children with Mrs. Burns. > As for the 1790 Census, there is no record of a Mary Burns or a Mathew Burns in Maryland. > There is a Mathew Barnes in Charles Co (3 white males 16+, 1 white male under 16, 5 white females and 2 slaves). I don't know how good a candidate he would be. I really don't think the above is relavant; just a feeling. > There are three records for Mary Burns in Pennsylvania: Northampton County (the current Northampton Co is on the Eastern border of I am now tracing the route the party took from Harford through PA to see if they could have passed through Northampton or PA where they could have picked up Mrs. Burns. My geographic prowess is second only to my mathematical skills so it could be an interesting trip <g>. Tomorrow is my day to volunteer at the FHC and I am going to try to get up early before the throngs arrive so I can get my hands on a reader long enough to check the Canadian records for Upper Canada Land Petitions in the hope that Mrs. Burns petitioned for land. I can't imagine that she would not have done, John, Moses, Thomas Welsh and even old Hannah Mitchell did. If she did it could possibly state her relationship to John. One can hope. Thanks sincerely for your help. Paddy