Just got in from a very informative trip to West Feliciana Parish, La. More later, I'm tired. Bob

Noelle, It would help if you let us know where these people lived and the approximate time period. Shirley On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:15:57 +0000 Todd/Noelle Johnson <[email protected]> writes: >Hi There, >I have recently found out about my Neville ancestry. My great-great >grandmother was Amanda Elizabeth Neville who was first married to John > >Henry Blaine and then Klemenz Fairman. > >I descend from Amanda & John's son, Edgar L. Blaine who was my >great-grandfather. I know absolutely nothing about Amanda's ancestry >and would greatly appreciate any information. Additionally, I know >nothing about the Blaine/Blain ancestry but would love to learn more. > >Amanda's granddaughter (my grandmother) is still alive and remembers >the >only time that she met her grandmother, Amanda. > >I know that my grandmother (and myself) would very much like to know >more about our Neville/Blaine ancestry. > >Thank You, >Noelle Johnson > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Please do NOT send attachments to the list. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Tom, Even though you have not seen William Neville's Bible, do you know what the wording is for his parents? The 1850 census of Perry Co IL calls her Polly. In 1860 they are supposed to be at Franklin Co (p483?) but I haven't looked at it. I would check to see if Joseph's wife is listed as Mary or Polly. I don't believe I have seen any record which calls her Elizabeth. Joseph Barger Neville, b 24 Dec 1764 m(2) Rachel Whitfield, (2) Elizabeth Pollock 5 Oct 1802 Montgomery Co, TN (3) Mary Whitfield Killebrew. This is the other Pollock marriage. Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Does anyone know the identity of Norman D. Nevills, subject of the following? In the House of Stone and Light / A Human History of the Grand Canyon by J. Donald Hughes, Univ. of Denver, pub. 1978 by Grand Canyon Natural History Assn. pp. 114 & 115: "Boat trips down the Colorado River became more numerous, and commercial river runners made their appearance. First of these was NORMAN D. NEVILLS, who completed his first traverse in 1938, using a wider version of the Galloway-Stone cataract boats. With him were the first women to make the trip, botanist Elzada U. Clover and Lois Jotter. NEVILLS founded "NEVILLS' EXPEDITIONS," and boated the Grand Canyon almost yearly until his death in an airplane crash in 1949. Among NEVILLS' passengers was Barry Goldwater, who made his first trip in 1940. Another "river rat," as they liked to call themselves, was Katie Lee, the singer, collector of cowboy and folk songs, and composer, who celebrated the oar-powered trips by writing and recording a series of Folk Songs of the Colorado River. On NEVILLS' 1941 trip, Alexander "Zee" Grant piloted a kayak, or cloth-covered foldboat, through the Canyon. NEVILLS' successors, James P. Rigg, Jr., and J. Frank Wright, renamed the business "Mexican Hat Expeditions, Inc." Norman Doyle Nevels is a name found in our MS group--actually Betty Stafford's family. Jan

Hi There, I have recently found out about my Neville ancestry. My great-great grandmother was Amanda Elizabeth Neville who was first married to John Henry Blaine and then Klemenz Fairman. I descend from Amanda & John's son, Edgar L. Blaine who was my great-grandfather. I know absolutely nothing about Amanda's ancestry and would greatly appreciate any information. Additionally, I know nothing about the Blaine/Blain ancestry but would love to learn more. Amanda's granddaughter (my grandmother) is still alive and remembers the only time that she met her grandmother, Amanda. I know that my grandmother (and myself) would very much like to know more about our Neville/Blaine ancestry. Thank You, Noelle Johnson

Seeking information about Samuel G. NEVILLE, son of Francis NEVILLE and Sophia COLE. Samuel lived in Roxbury, MA but ran away to Charleston, SC twice to escape his cruel father and stepmother. His older brother William went to sea and was never heard from again.Why did Samuel run away to Charleston except to be with family members, either NEVILLE or COLE? His mother Sophia d. in 1813 so he and brother William left home after that. I cannot find out any more about Francis or Sophia and thought this might be a route to take. Jane Kennard Gilman

Happy Chernobyl Virus Day to you all--and may you forever be immune. Glen says we are up and running, but that no one is sending for the moment. I have the following for your advise and consideration: The family historian of my immediate family says that Joseph Neville, b 5 Dec 1792 in Rutherford Co. NC, died 1870 or so in Illinois, or maybe between Tn and Il, as the son of Yelverton/Yelvaton and Elizabeth Neville. Here comes the tricky part. Joseph married Elizabeth Mary (Polly) Pollock ca. 1814, in Jackson Co. TN according to his son William's bible. (I have not seen the bible, William died in Duquoin, Il in 1880.) Polly was born 1792 in Kentucky. They then had: i. John Wesley, 1816, ii. Sarah, 1817, iii. Thomas, 1820, iv. Samuel, 1822, v. Lauisianna Catherine, 1826, vi. George T, 1829, vii. Easter A, 1830, viii. William A., 1835, and ix. Susan Bell, 1837. Several of the kids married in TN, had their own kids, etc. and then many went trucking off to Perry County/Franklin county, Il by wagon train with Joseph and Polly in 1848. The suggestion is that cholera scared them off. One theory says that Joseph and Polly are buried in Bear Point Cemetery in Franklin County, Il in unmarked graves. It has also been suggested by others that they returned to Tn following the Civil War but were not well received and then died en route back to Il. I have no proof of the above. >From the Jackson County Web Page, I received the following last week: that Sarah, dau. of Joseph is really D. Sarah (but do not know the D. meaning), and that Elizabeth Pollock is not the wife of my Joseph, but of another Joseph born earlier in 1762 or 1764. Would appreciate your throughts and guidance. Best, Tom

A couple of people have wondered why so few postings to the Neville List lately. I don't know. I assume people are taking a spring break from genealogy or else have other commitments. The list seems to be working properly. Feel free to post your queries. We can all help each other. Sincerely, Glenn Gohr (Neville List Manager) [email protected]

Am I in or am I out? With all the subscribe/unsubscribe, I haven't got any messages sinse 4/21 and only a couple in the last 9 days?

As far as I can tell you are in. I have not received many messages either. I supposed there were not many available. Hope this answers your question.

Peter, I took a look at the letter and have only a few comments of possible different interpretations. 2nd page * Nancy to James Claypole * their mother died in Beaver Co penn. in * Joseph died also near 67 year old 3rd page * 7 children - Josiah [it looks like this was written over Joseph, or vice versa; it also looks like the name is followed by a capital letter] 4th page * Joseph Born feb 15-1845 & was maried dec. 17 [it does not look like a 4 to me] 5th page * Joseph M died Aged 12 or 15 * Athelia to Ivan? Scott [This is very faint on my copy; it does't seem to have enough letters to be Reason] Shirley ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Good morning, just stumbled into the Descendants of Adam by Robert Daughty at: http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/lily/139/home.htm The site is described as a "whimsical" tracing of his family back to Adam and Eve--using documentation from a variety of sources, mostly unlisted. But recorded as the parents of our 1612 John Neville (even though we cannot prove it but feel it in our bones) are John Neville and Gertrude Whaley. Have never heard that before, have any of you? A good weekend to you all. Tom

Shirley, Thanks for the offer to look at the "1874 letter Nevills (MD/Ohio) claiming French origin", I've been up to my ears in alligators, but will get to the NGS library Monday night. I will drop off a copy of the letter for your then. Thanks again, Peter ----------------reply separator------------- >X-Message: #3 >Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:32:08 -0400 From: Shirley L Wilcox ><[email protected]> To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] #3: 1874 letter Nevills (MD/Ohio) claiming >French origin > >Peter, > >I'd be happy to take a look at it. If you still plan to get to the >NGS Library, leave it there with the librarian. >. .>Shirley > >On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:19:59 -0500 [email protected] >writes: >> >> Laura, >> >> I double checked my "not so clear" copy of the original 1874 >>letter. I'm >> far from an expert on old handwriting, but I can't see anything >> like a "y" in the Perkendall/Kerkendall name. Amond does look .>like Amond >> to me. > > I will scan the document and send to to your e-mail directly >(would anyone > else like a copy?) for review. The more eyes we get looking at >this letter > the better!! > > Thank you much for the help! > > Peter > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >X-Message: #3 > >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:42:23 -0500 > >From: "Laura McKenzie" <[email protected]> To: > > >[email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] #2: 1874 letter Nevills (MD/Ohio) >claiming > >French origin Content-Type: text/plain; > >charset="iso-8859-1" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Hi, I wonder if Kerkendall/ Perkendall is right? I've never >seen the > >name near Nevilles but I have seen Kuykendall (and many many >various > >spellings.) > >Also, Amond, could that be Arnold by any chance? > >Kuykendall was Dutch/German I believe from New Amsterdam. Its an >old > >old family and one that is allied to my Browns (who supposedly >had a > >Frances Neville in them). The Kuykendalls went NY to PA >(Chester Co > >etc.) to old Frederick Co Va (and Hampshire Co Va.. where a >Joseph > >Neville lived as a matter of fact.) > > > >Brothers & Sisters). Edward & Thomas maried two Sisters Named > > > >campbell, John to Elisabeth Grant and Elisabeth to Perkendall, > > Elisabeth to Kerkendall (Perkendall?). Hannah to Biggs her > > >first man > > Her second john cotten. > > Mary to Jacob Amond. Nancy to Cames Claypole their >mother > >died in > > Bever Co penn in her 90 year. > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ______________________________

Janella, You are right. There are questions about the Neville lineage in Boddie's Hisorical Southern Families. According to the article, John Neville and wife Elizabeth of Nansemond Co., VA made a deed in 1689 which named Benjamin Neville as a son. The article also states that the John Neville who is found in Isle of Wight Co. records at the same time is the same John Neville. That may need more checking because more than one John Nevill seems to have been in that area at that time. A Benjamin Neville, said to be the same one named in John and Elizabeth's deed, was living in Nansemond in 1704. Then the article states that the Benjamin Neville found in Edgecombe County, NC records in 1745 is the same Benjamin, but no evidence is offered to establish that both men are the same person. Assuming that Benj. Neville named in the 1689 deed of John and Elizabeth was at least 20 or older at the time of the deed (his parents were already married in 1665 when they sold 400 acres to John Marshall in Isle of Wight), by 1745 he would have been about 75 or older. Jesse, the son of Benj. Neville of NC, was b. in 1746, and Benj. had at least two other children. The date of Jesse's birth seems to indicate that his father was a younger man than the one who was named in the deed of John and Elizabeth Neville in 1689. Benj. of Edgecombe Co./Halifax Co., NC had several real estate transactions after 1746, which might also indicate he was a younger man. However, several families of the same names are connected with both the VA group and the NC group, so they surely seem related. One of the contributors to Boddie's article was David B. Trimble. In American Origins, Trimble later wrote a different account of the early end of the Nevills in Isle of Wight/Nansemond Co., VA, in his article Nevill of Orange Co., NC and Coffee Co., TN. He wrote that the Benj. Nevill who was in the Edgecombe Co., NC 1745 deed was born about 1705. He does not show how he came up with an approximate date of birth. He is careful to state that the Benjamin Nevill who was in Nansemond Co. in 1704 might have been the child of John and Elizabeth Nevill of Nansemond/Isle of Wight Co. records and might have been the father of the Edgecombe Co., NC Benjamin. In past discusssions we have had about this subject, no one has come up with more evidence to support links between the Nansemond Co., VA group to the Edgecombe/Halifax Co., NC group, even though they are almost certainly related. From Jesse on down, I think we have agreed that everything is pretty firm. Jan At 06:07 PM 4/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >I am also a descendant of this family -- Elizabeth Neville and Francis >Barbee. >I would like to contact anyone else working on the ancestry of this family. >It seem to have a lot of twists. Doddie gives Benjamin's parents as John >Neville >and Elizabeth Reynolds. However, there seems to be some question >concerning >the proof of this relationship. >Janella >

I am also a descendant of this family -- Elizabeth Neville and Francis Barbee. I would like to contact anyone else working on the ancestry of this family. It seem to have a lot of twists. Doddie gives Benjamin's parents as John Neville and Elizabeth Reynolds. However, there seems to be some question concerning the proof of this relationship. Janella ---------- > From: Jan & David Faulkner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] Winifred Nevill > Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 11:08 PM > > Anita, > > To add to what Shirley sent is the following: > > Benjamin Nevil will of Nov. 15, 1758, probated in Halifax Co., NC Sept. > 1759. Names sons Benjamin, Jesse, daughter Elizabeth, wife Elizabeth. > > Jesse Neville, named in above will, born Sept. 24, 1746; will probated May > 1810, Orange Co., NC; married Elizabeth Parke ca. 1770. > > Children of Jesse and Elizabeth Parke Neville: > Goodwin Neville, b. Jan. 13, 1771; m. James Kirk > Cynthia Neville, b. Oct. 18, 1772; d. Chowan Co., NC > Elizabeth Neville, b. Jan 28, 1775; m. Francis Barbee > Solomon Neville, b. April 3, 1777; d. Jan 20, 1848; m. Susanna Walton > Benjamin Neville, b. July 8, 1779; m. Nancy Robinson (Robertson?), Oct. 3, 1800 > Jesse Neville, b. Dec. 29, 1781; d. April 11, 1859; m. Winifred Norwood > Goodman Neville, b. Jan 9, 1783, N.C.; m. Jane McCauley > Cynthia Aria (Aris?) Neville, b. March 16, 1786; m. William Robertson, Sept. > 14, 1804, Orange Co., NC > Wiley (Wilie) Whitley Neville, b. Dec. 16, 1787 > Samuel Parke Neville, b. March 23, 1790; d. Nov. 14, 1854; m. Elizabeth > McCauley. > Selah Neville, b. April 6, 1792; m. Wiley Kirby, Dec. 15, 1824. > > ----------------- > > My Nevels/Nevel/Nevill group was in Holmes Co., Mississippi, a couple of > counties below Marshall Co. I cannot find a link between them and the > Halifax/Orange Co., NC group who came to Marshall Co. about 30 years after > my group was in MS (first lived in southwest MS). An elderly Stroud > descendant told me a story about a Neville, a Green, and a Stroud who came > to Holmes Co. from Orange Co., North Carolina. The Neville then went to > Louisiana and started a school there. In Monroe, LA, a Neville was > superintendant of schools and a school is still there which was named for > him. He was part of the Orange Co., NC Nevilles. (I will have to look up > the specifics on this and send them to you.) I have no clue as to how he > might have been connected with the Holmes Co. Nevels group. I suspect if a > connection existed, it went back two or three generations. > > We have one or two other list members descended from the Orange Co. group. I > can also give you an e-mail address for a Neville researcher in Marshall > Co., MS if you are interested. > > Jan Faulkner > > > ==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== > Have you tried GenConnect? > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index.html

Peter, I'd be happy to take a look at it. If you still plan to get to the NGS Library, leave it there with the librarian. Shirley On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:19:59 -0500 [email protected] writes: > > Laura, > > I double checked my "not so clear" copy of the original 1874 >letter. I'm > far from an expert on old handwriting, but I can't see anything >that looks > like a "y" in the Perkendall/Kerkendall name. Amond does look >like Amond > to me. > > I will scan the document and send to to your e-mail directly >(would anyone > else like a copy?) for review. The more eyes we get looking at >this letter > the better!! > > Thank you much for the help! > > Peter > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >X-Message: #3 > >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:42:23 -0500 > >From: "Laura McKenzie" <[email protected]> To: > > >[email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] #2: 1874 letter Nevills (MD/Ohio) >claiming > >French origin Content-Type: text/plain; > >charset="iso-8859-1" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Hi, I wonder if Kerkendall/ Perkendall is right? I've never >seen the > >name near Nevilles but I have seen Kuykendall (and many many >various > >spellings.) > >Also, Amond, could that be Arnold by any chance? > >Kuykendall was Dutch/German I believe from New Amsterdam. Its an >old > >old family and one that is allied to my Browns (who supposedly >had a > >Frances Neville in them). The Kuykendalls went NY to PA >(Chester Co > >etc.) to old Frederick Co Va (and Hampshire Co Va.. where a >Joseph > >Neville lived as a matter of fact.) > > > >Brothers & Sisters). Edward & Thomas maried two Sisters Named > > > >campbell, John to Elisabeth Grant and Elisabeth to Perkendall, > > Elisabeth to Kerkendall (Perkendall?). Hannah to Biggs her > > >first man > > Her second john cotten. > > Mary to Jacob Amond. Nancy to Cames Claypole their >mother > >died in > > Bever Co penn in her 90 year. > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Your donations to RootsWeb make the NEVILLE Mailing List possible. >RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >http://www/rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Laura, I double checked my "not so clear" copy of the original 1874 letter. I'm far from an expert on old handwriting, but I can't see anything that looks like a "y" in the Perkendall/Kerkendall name. Amond does look like Amond to me. I will scan the document and send to to your e-mail directly (would anyone else like a copy?) for review. The more eyes we get looking at this letter the better!! Thank you much for the help! Peter -------------------------------------------------------------------- >X-Message: #3 >Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:42:23 -0500 >From: "Laura McKenzie" <[email protected]> To: >[email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NEVILLE-L] #2: 1874 letter Nevills (MD/Ohio) claiming >French origin Content-Type: text/plain; >charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi, I wonder if Kerkendall/ Perkendall is right? I've never seen the >name near Nevilles but I have seen Kuykendall (and many many various >spellings.) >Also, Amond, could that be Arnold by any chance? >Kuykendall was Dutch/German I believe from New Amsterdam. Its an old >old family and one that is allied to my Browns (who supposedly had a >Frances Neville in them). The Kuykendalls went NY to PA (Chester Co >etc.) to old Frederick Co Va (and Hampshire Co Va.. where a Joseph >Neville lived as a matter of fact.) > >Brothers & Sisters). Edward & Thomas maried two Sisters Named > >campbell, John to Elisabeth Grant and Elisabeth to Perkendall, > Elisabeth to Kerkendall (Perkendall?). Hannah to Biggs her >first man > Her second john cotten. > Mary to Jacob Amond. Nancy to Cames Claypole their mother >died in > Bever Co penn in her 90 year.

Does anyone have any Ashbys mixed up with their Neville research? I'm wondering because they appear in the same vicinity of Farquier and I have found that one in particular, Nimrod, was in old Frederick (I haven't checked to see if Farquier used to be Frederick but its a bit south of it) and then in Farquier. In Farquier he is mentioned along with Daniel Brown and along with the Farquier Nevilles. Someone on the Frederick Co list posted the table of contents for Ashby in the book Pioneers of Old Frederick County VA and it listed Nimrod. Thanks! Laura

I don't know if it is a coincidence or not. But, it is always important to be on the lookout for such clues. Families did move around together. Shirley On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Paddy Chitty <[email protected]> writes: > > > >On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Shirley L Wilcox wrote: > >> Anita, >> >> Winifred Neville, was born 9 March 1817, probably in Orange Co., NC, >& >> was a daughter of Jesse Neville & Winifred Norwood. Her grandparents >were >> Jesse Neville and Elizabeth Parke. She married Robert Harris 7 Oct. >1841 >> in Marshall Co., MS. She is a descendant of Benjamin Neville of NC. >There >> are some others on this list that know more about these Nevilles >than I >> do. >> >> Shirley Wilcox > >Shirley & Anita: > >Do you think it is at all significant that a Jacob NORWOOD was a >witness >to an Indenture for Thomas Mitchell Srs. land which he willed to his >daughter Elizabeth. I find the document very difficult to read but it >appears that Hannah Mitchell, Moses NEVILL and his wife Elizabeth >Mitchell NEVILL are relinquishing their claim on the land prior to >leaving MD for Canada. Do you think the Norwood witness is just >a coincidence? The other witness was Thomas WELSH. > >Was it common practice for witnesses to land transactions to be, one >witness to protect the interests of the wife and witness for the >husband? > >Paddy > > > >==== NEVILLE Mailing List ==== >Have you tried Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet? >http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]