Shirley.........I am glad you didn't take my rambling wrong! I agree with you on the obsession and yet the good thing about genealogy. And, believe me, I would not be able to do any better than the people who already do it. Which brings to mind the story I told awhile back about my friend seeing a word on a ships list and among about 10 of us in the library, none could translate for identify it. Turns out it (acq) was short for acquaintance....... and we all slapped our heads. Deb......I'm sorry but I started giggling at your post. I was picturing some newbie reading it and when I got to the farchin and marchin I just LMBO. You guys are the best, and honestly, I have to say again, I'll bet we have one of the best and most active county sites in the country. And for us of Polish ancestry, we are lucky to have a few people who seem to have the entire of our families documented. Or know where they are. :) I also enjoyed the story about the longjohns! KathyB ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d857a298401525628ast03duc