Bill, the name of the cousin might be.....Grebosz. There are a raft of them in Mass.Ck Ancestry. The name of the village that Mike found is pretty close, and the pronunciation could be either way. Of course we are grasping at straws as we all sometimes do in genealogy. There is alot on Moderowka on the net. Mike Korgie..........I found Kolodjei(sp) and Lasseks living in the village of Lukowa. Imagine that! KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon&#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7d767523c39134af6st05duc

Kathy, Im sure you've seen these, you've been doing this for a long time now : ) http://www.feefhs.org/links/poland/pafi/pafi30.html Several Josef/Jozef Podgorski on the above list, a couple in Cleveland Ohio.Several Jan's also. and this is a website for the surname in various spellings http://www.podgourski.net/content/2714.html On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Cris Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > > I tried to read it too Kathy. The page did come in for me but wow, ! I > looked at all of the entries to see if I could find something even similar > and did not. Looked alittle like Ohio to me. > ...Cris > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> OK............since you are good at reading ships manifests, let me know >> if you see Columbus Neb. on this one. My mom swears that her dad said his >> brother Joseph came to visit in Columbus. On his wedding picture is someone >> who I thought was this brother......but it turns out to be Frank Wruble!(he >> looks like my gramps) Anyway, I looked to see if any Joseph Podgorski had >> ever come to the U.S. Several did, but this one says not only he is from the >> same village, Leki Dolne, but going to Columbus ? It could be Ohio. Its the >> only thing not clear. Then, it says he was going to meet his >> cousin.....unclear given name but Kula the surname. My ? Why wouldn't he be >> saying his brother Jan, my grandfather if he was going to Columbus. (They >> did get married in 1907) Then.......he didn't stay in Columbus if he did >> come. Any thoughts at all will be great. KathyB >> >> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: ellis island Josef Podgorski >> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 02:48:10 GMT >> >> >> >> http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-0923\\T715-09230128.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=102004030386&name=Jozef%26nbsp%3BPodgorski&doa=Jun+16%2C+1907&port=Bremen&line=0002<http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D%5C%5C%5C%5C192.168.100.11%5C%5Cimages%5C%5CT715-0923%5C%5CT715-09230128.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=102004030386&name=Jozef%26nbsp%3BPodgorski&doa=Jun+16%2C+1907&port=Bremen&line=0002> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Groupon&#8482 Official Site >> 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7d822d9502d13e4f1st06duc >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Life may not be the party we hoped for.. > But while we're here we might as well dance ! > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !

That was the best. Tom On Mar 12, 2011, at 11:51 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > That should durn well answer Tom, and everyone else's question LOL KB > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon&#8482 Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7c0736547b7113b7est04duc > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shrilly - Now that is good research and a perfect answer. You and Mike Korgie should team up !! It would be awesome ! Tom On Mar 12, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Shirley Martys <[email protected]> wrote: > > My interest was intriqued and had to find the truth.......At the turn of the twentieth century many men wore union suits as undergarments. Union suits were one-piece, knit undergarments that covered both the upper and lower body. The traditional union suit was made of cotton or wool and covered the body from the ankles to the wrists. It had a long row of buttons up the front and featured a buttoned drop seat in the rear. Union suits often shrunk when washed, making the garments uncomfortable. They also were bulky and tended to irritate the wearer. Despite these problem, they were practical undergarments that provided warmth before the days of central heating. > During the first few years of the century, several factors influenced the shape and the style of men's underwear. First, the widespread use of central heating meant that men no longer needed to wear long underwear indoors. Secondly, men's fashions began to be fitted more closely to the body, making bulky undergarments impractical. Thirdly, as sports and athletics became more popular as leisure activities, men sought out lighter forms of underwear. To accommodate these changes, underwear factories such as Chalmers Knitting Mills in Amsterdam, New York, began manufacturing less bulky, mesh garments that were comfortable for summer weather. By 1911 the first newspaper advertisements promoted patented, or original, advances in men's underwear styles. They included improvements in crotch closures and seat flaps, allowing for more comfort and better hygiene. > The athletic union suit was introduced in the early 1910s. It was a knee-length one-piece garment with a sleeveless top that gave men more mobility. In 1912 Chalmers advertised a cotton-knit athletic union suit called the Porosknit, which featured a sturdy cotton yoke front. This model boasted a no-bulge waistline and easy-to-fasten buttons that did not easily come undone; it was also breathable, which meant that air flowed easily through the fabric, keeping the wearer from getting too hot. > During World War I (1914–18) several changes occurred in the shape and styling of men's underwear. Men started wearing two-piece undergarments. The bottoms, often referred to as drawers, were knee-length cotton shorts with a few front buttons for durability and comfort. Certain models laced up at the side. Most drawers were made of cotton, although wealthy men wore silk drawers. On the upper body men wore chemises, sleeveless tops that covered the upper torso and tucked into the drawers. > Men's underwear followed this basic pattern into the twenty-first century, with both tops and bottoms made in a variety of styles. For the bottoms, men can choose from longer, looser boxer shorts, close-fitting but modest briefs, or skimpy, skin-tight bikini underwear. For the tops, men typically choose from either V-necked or crewneck T-shirts or tank tops. ....Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can't open Tye URL. Can someone copy it and attach to erect email to me ?? Tom On Mar 11, 2011, at 7:44 AM, William Thoendel <[email protected]> wrote: > Need help reading line #27... ??village?? in Poland and name of cousin in Adams, ?Mass? > !! Only 50 cents in her pocket !! > Thanks, > Bill > http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif%2Eexe%3FT%3D%5C%5C%5C%5C192%2E168%2E100%2E11%5C%5CIMAGES%5C%5CT715-0276%5C%5CT715-02760534%2ETIF%26S%3D%2E5&pID=102756170104&name=Maryanne%26nbsp%3BTondel&doa=May+18%2C+1902&port=Rotterdam%2C+Holland&line=0027 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy - I would like to look at this, but for some reason my iPad software won't let me. Clicking the URL below defaults to an Ellis Island typed page and it gives me a phone number to call and to leave my phone number and they'll return the call. Same with the one Bill posted. If you can attach it to an mail dire toy to me it ma work. Tom On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:39 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > OK............since you are good at reading ships manifests, let me know if you see Columbus Neb. on this one. My mom swears that her dad said his brother Joseph came to visit in Columbus. On his wedding picture is someone who I thought was this brother......but it turns out to be Frank Wruble!(he looks like my gramps) Anyway, I looked to see if any Joseph Podgorski had ever come to the U.S. Several did, but this one says not only he is from the same village, Leki Dolne, but going to Columbus ? It could be Ohio. Its the only thing not clear. Then, it says he was going to meet his cousin.....unclear given name but Kula the surname. My ? Why wouldn't he be saying his brother Jan, my grandfather if he was going to Columbus. (They did get married in 1907) Then.......he didn't stay in Columbus if he did come. Any thoughts at all will be great. KathyB > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: ellis island Josef Podgorski > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 02:48:10 GMT > > > http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-0923\\T715-09230128.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=102004030386&name=Jozef%26nbsp%3BPodgorski&doa=Jun+16%2C+1907&port=Bremen&line=0002 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon&#8482 Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7d822d9502d13e4f1st06duc > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I tried to read it too Kathy. The page did come in for me but wow, ! I looked at all of the entries to see if I could find something even similar and did not. Looked alittle like Ohio to me. ...Cris On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > OK............since you are good at reading ships manifests, let me know if > you see Columbus Neb. on this one. My mom swears that her dad said his > brother Joseph came to visit in Columbus. On his wedding picture is someone > who I thought was this brother......but it turns out to be Frank Wruble!(he > looks like my gramps) Anyway, I looked to see if any Joseph Podgorski had > ever come to the U.S. Several did, but this one says not only he is from the > same village, Leki Dolne, but going to Columbus ? It could be Ohio. Its the > only thing not clear. Then, it says he was going to meet his > cousin.....unclear given name but Kula the surname. My ? Why wouldn't he be > saying his brother Jan, my grandfather if he was going to Columbus. (They > did get married in 1907) Then.......he didn't stay in Columbus if he did > come. Any thoughts at all will be great. KathyB > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: ellis island Josef Podgorski > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 02:48:10 GMT > > > > http://ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-0923\\T715-09230128.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=102004030386&name=Jozef%26nbsp%3BPodgorski&doa=Jun+16%2C+1907&port=Bremen&line=0002 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon&#8482 Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7d822d9502d13e4f1st06duc > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !

are union suit the same as long johns? sounds like it. I have a bright red pair myself, button seat and all LOL Cris Atwater CA On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Shirley Martys <[email protected]>wrote: > > My interest was intriqued and had to find the truth.......At the turn of > the twentieth century many men wore union suits as undergarments. Union > suits were one-piece, knit undergarments that covered both the upper and > lower body. The traditional union suit was made of cotton or wool and > covered the body from the ankles to the wrists. It had a long row of buttons > up the front and featured a buttoned drop seat in the rear. Union suits > often shrunk when washed, making the garments uncomfortable. They also were > bulky and tended to irritate the wearer. Despite these problem, they were > practical undergarments that provided warmth before the days of central > heating. > During the first few years of the century, several factors influenced the > shape and the style of men's underwear. First, the widespread use of central > heating meant that men no longer needed to wear long underwear indoors. > Secondly, men's fashions began to be fitted more closely to the body, making > bulky undergarments impractical. Thirdly, as sports and athletics became > more popular as leisure activities, men sought out lighter forms of > underwear. To accommodate these changes, underwear factories such as > Chalmers Knitting Mills in Amsterdam, New York, began manufacturing less > bulky, mesh garments that were comfortable for summer weather. By 1911 the > first newspaper advertisements promoted patented, or original, advances in > men's underwear styles. They included improvements in crotch closures and > seat flaps, allowing for more comfort and better hygiene. > The athletic union suit was introduced in the early 1910s. It was a > knee-length one-piece garment with a sleeveless top that gave men more > mobility. In 1912 Chalmers advertised a cotton-knit athletic union suit > called the Porosknit, which featured a sturdy cotton yoke front. This model > boasted a no-bulge waistline and easy-to-fasten buttons that did not easily > come undone; it was also breathable, which meant that air flowed easily > through the fabric, keeping the wearer from getting too hot. > During World War I (1914–18) several changes occurred in the shape and > styling of men's underwear. Men started wearing two-piece undergarments. The > bottoms, often referred to as drawers, were knee-length cotton shorts with a > few front buttons for durability and comfort. Certain models laced up at the > side. Most drawers were made of cotton, although wealthy men wore silk > drawers. On the upper body men wore chemises, sleeveless tops that covered > the upper torso and tucked into the drawers. > Men's underwear followed this basic pattern into the twenty-first century, > with both tops and bottoms made in a variety of styles. For the bottoms, men > can choose from longer, looser boxer shorts, close-fitting but modest > briefs, or skimpy, skin-tight bikini underwear. For the tops, men typically > choose from either V-necked or crewneck T-shirts or tank tops. ....Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !

I see the same thing as Kathy B. ...Grembosz...Modowka....Adams, Mass (which is in Berkshire County) > From: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:58:35 +0000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Tondel > > > Bill..........looks like Modowka? Poland and cousins name looks like either Grembosz or Gumbosz! LOL how different Shirleys interpretation and mine are. KathyB > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon&#8482 Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7d0611b39a71d0a92st02duc > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Kathy the Polish village definitely looks like Modowka -- but I did not see any Polish village with that name today. Nearest I could see was Moderowka near Jaslo. Mike

Bill..........looks like Modowka? Poland and cousins name looks like either Grembosz or Gumbosz! LOL how different Shirleys interpretation and mine are. KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon&#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7d0611b39a71d0a92st02duc

But you are probably closer as I am not so use to the Polish names. I do work with transcribing for the LDS site and Ancestry but try to stay away from the Polish areas as not to make mistakes. Shirley For Platte County, Nebraska Genealogy Visit www.megavision.net/pvks/index.html Also visit www.findagrave.com > From: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:58:35 +0000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Tondel > > > Bill..........looks like Modowka? Poland and cousins name looks like either Grembosz or Gumbosz! LOL how different Shirleys interpretation and mine are. KathyB > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon&#8482 Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7d0611b39a71d0a92st02duc > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It looks to me like it is J. Greinboer and Adams, Massachusetts is the location. Shirley For Platte County, Nebraska Genealogy Visit www.megavision.net/pvks/index.html Also visit www.findagrave.com > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:44:59 -0600 > Subject: [NEPLATTE] Tondel > > Need help reading line #27... ??village?? in Poland and name of cousin in Adams, ?Mass? > !! Only 50 cents in her pocket !! > Thanks, > Bill > http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif%2Eexe%3FT%3D%5C%5C%5C%5C192%2E168%2E100%2E11%5C%5CIMAGES%5C%5CT715-0276%5C%5CT715-02760534%2ETIF%26S%3D%2E5&pID=102756170104&name=Maryanne%26nbsp%3BTondel&doa=May+18%2C+1902&port=Rotterdam%2C+Holland&line=0027 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

_http://www.geneabloggers.com/genealogy-blogs/_ (http://www.geneabloggers.com/genealogy-blogs/) the above website is for genealogists and has a lot of posts - dont know if anyone will find anything useful on it - but sometimes worth a look see. Dianne

Tom, as usal you have me in tears laughing..tightie whitey man! Your question about what our ancestors wore made me think of something I only learned today at the Celtic Faire. Many people were wearing foxtails attached to their behinds. I had no idea why until I found out they wore them for sanitary condition.As there was no toilet paper and such at the time (1700's-1800's) the fox tail was worn on the person rea end to keep flies away! How totally gross! I also learned that woman had an inner dress and an outer dress ( the inner one being similar to a ladies slip..but made of linen, muslin etc.) Hygiene wasn't given careful attention and the women wore the 2 "dresses" and at night took off the top layer and slept in the second one. When they woke in the morning they put their apron on over it and proceeded with their chores...this inner garment was worn over and over without washing it...another totally gross from me. I spoke for some time with a gentleman from Clan Cian of America. He was familiar will my family names and told me that we were related to the Kennedy's (John F.) I will be joining the clan..Any of my Irish friends and family on this list, its 80.00 for your entire family, husbands, wives, kids, grandkids, etc etc .This 80.00 is for a lifetime. Cris Atwater CA On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]>wrote: > Hmmmmm ?? - well, I think the Saints and Angels were the smart ones, > just floating around in "protection mode" while their charges did the stinky > ship thing. Also, I note that none of them volunteered to trade places with > the immigrants as they stomped across the New World. > > Tenderfoot ?? I don't think so - the word no longer applies. Its > considered outdated in Alaska and applies only in the lower 48. For the > last few decades the word "Chechaco" has been used, borrowed from the Native > Alaskan Chinook language, and is freely applied to newcomers for around 1 > year. > > After a newcomer has lived in Alaska for a year and has seen the ice go > out on the Yukon River in spring, they are considered a "Sourdough". The > word was coined and based on the practice of making bread for consumption > and always carrying a small portion of the bread dough with you so as to > make more bread when required so no one ever goes hungry on the tundra. > > The word 'sour' comes from the abundance of lactic and acetic acids > that are produced when natural yeasts, present in the air, ground, and > everywhere, to include in and on grains, is used. A cultured yeast such as > bakers yeast wouldn't survive the experience. > > I lived in Alaska for 24 years and have watched the spring ice breakup > on the Yukon. > > I dont wear boxer shorts, I wear tighty whities. I have never > understood why men wear boxer shorts, other than to say that they are a > trend-setter garment bringing more profit to those who sell them. They were > patented in 1925 as an over-garment for prize fighters who needed free > movement. Oddly enough, they wore tighty whities under them. Today, they > took the supporting whitie portion away and wear the outer shell as > underwear. Go figure. > > Its also my understanding that immigrant women, from 1925 on, preferred > their men to wear tighty whities. > > Yup if I were in Columbus during the recent snow flurry activity there, > it would have been my pleasure indeed have ridden the pathfinder mule ahead > of the kin seeker wagon, and I would have contacted the Columbus Telegram > for onsite coverage. Bet it would have made the TV as well. Next year I > would laison with the LDS for a Saints cart plus Mormon Family. 10 years > from now, the event would surely demand national recognition and Columbus > would be famous !! > > This all brings up a mystery, which to my knowledge, has never been > addressed. I'm wondering what our men ancestors wore prior to 1925 when they > immigrated or if they wore any undergarment at all ?? > > Tom > > > > Tom, > > What about all the saints and angels protecting those great warriors, > that > > sailed the sea's in a stinky ship, worked their way half way across the > US, > > (on foot) unless they had a RR job and rode.. > > > > Being a tenderfoot from Alaska a little snow shouldn't get your boxers in > a > > wad, son, march on........... > > > > Maybe you will make the local press! > > Debi! > > > > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Good hello to everyone !! > >> > >> Are you all experiencing first hand the weather conditions prevalent > >> during the times of our early ancestors ?? For posterity, someone should > >> ride a mule from Columbus to Duncan followed by a team of oxen pulling a > >> Murphy farm wagon filled with the "Kinseekers" and the local press !! > >> > >> Think of the worldwide coverage and the boost to genealogy !! No ?? > >> > >> About half way down Marge's link provided below, there's a note from > >> Ancestry saying that there is a probable match to another Michael Kush. > I > >> looked at the link but can't examine anything since I don't have a > >> subscription. > >> > >> Could this be the phantom Michael Kush ?? > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !

That should durn well answer Tom, and everyone else's question LOL KB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon&#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city&#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7c0736547b7113b7est04duc

Tom and Debi..............I'll bet you that Diane L. and I can top any story about Polish family feuds that you have heard in YOUR family!!!!! And outcomes. Tom's right.......alot of the people changed the spellings because another bunch had shamed them. Or something lol KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7bfd9865f481c8d07st01duc

Debi,Great find on the Poznan Project. It certainly fits. Did you order the film from Kcynia and check to see if the parents are listed on the marriage record? > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:15:43 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Michael KUS/KUSH > > I seriouslycouldn't wait to read all the info on these dastardly Kush's! > > As much as I regret saying this, they are the Kush's on the films. found a > bit more info also Monica. Because you are so right, combed those films and > more, so bare with me. > > My info is as this: > Stanislaus and Mary are not Michael Kush's parents. > Michael Kush's (b 1843-d. 1912, brd Krakow) parent's were > Michael Kus b 1814 and Sophia Augustyn b 1820, mrd 1835. they had 11 > children > Marianna, Joannes, Catherina, Michael, Francisca, Anna, Ludwig, Thomas, > Joannes and Appolonia, all born in Poland. Michael married a 2nd time to > Agnes Farczek in 1863 (not long after Sophia's death). they had 6 children > victoria, Bartholmus, Francicus, Michael (1879), Anna, Sophia. > > Michael born 1843, had a uncle named Sebationus and a child. Michael 1843's > obit said very little, basically that he died of thoart cancer. A picture I > posted on Platte County Rootsweb, has three men in it, the first one I > believe is Louis/Ladislaus Kush (his sone b 1884), the 2nd being Michael > Kus'/ Kush (1843) and the 3rd Thomas Kush (Michael (1843)'s brother). Not > proven but my belief. the photo was provided to me from my aunt Helen, > picture that she had no idea who they were, the photo's had come from her > mother's things. > > I believe Ludwig Kush (1851- 1930) is Michael's brother and Joseph Kush > (1862-1947). Most of Michael's sibling's did end up in Platte County. By all > accounts ludwig William Kush (1851) and Michael are brother's. Info from > the LDS films and Platte County marriage records. Again, the same for > Thomas Kush (1851) clearly listed in the LDS films as his brother. In info > I got from Thomas (1851) family (Brian Meyer) a news article for Thomas's > 94th Birthday, it states one brother Joe Kush of Tarnov. > > The picture's I have, one is Joe and Agnes in front of a barn, that I > believe is taken at the home place of Michael Kush (1843) and one is Thomas > (1851) also in front of the barn. > > I have scanned quite a few of the entries from the LDS films, if some one > wants them to study (or the info and you can look up). > > Michael (1843) and Katherina Pawlak were married 1868 in Kcyznia (found on > the Pozan Project) and Immagrated 6 May 1870. Although the ship list states > "farchin" and "marchin" the ages may perhaps suggest an uncle. > Debi > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:29 AM, MONICA ZENDEJAS <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I finally got to my computer with my genealogy in it, and can now put my > > "two cents" in! :) > > Here is what I have extracted from the Leki Gorne/Leki Dolne (films > > #1898738 and 1898739) on the Kus line (and I extracted all the Kus names I > > found). Deb Waterman and I both have combed those films and did not find her > > Michael Kush ancestor on those films. > > Michael Kus born Sep 23 1783 in Leki Dolne/Gorne and Apollonia Dudek born > > Feb 5 1785 were married 25 Nov 1805 in Leki Dolne/Gorne. They had 7 > > children:Sebastian born abt 1799, married Agnes ZajacVictoria born 21 Dec > > 1807 marr. Martin PolaszecFranciscus born 1 sep 1811 marr. Anna > > MoryowiecMichael Kus born 25 sep 1814 marr. Sophia AugustynJoannes born 11 > > May 1817 marr. Catherine TworekCatherina born 4 Nov 1820 marr. Jacob > > HebdaSebastian born 18 Jan 1824 > > I realize there are two Sebastian's listed, and I never found the first > > one's actual birth record. I did however, find the marriage record for > > Sebastian Kus and Agnes Zajac. The marriage records show that Sebastian was > > 46 years old and Agnes was 21 years old and both were widowed before this > > marriage. The marriage date was 23 Sep 1845 in Leki Gorne. So, unless the > > age was recorded wrong, that is how I came up with the 1799 estimated birth > > date. The Sebastian I have an actual birth record for would have been 21 at > > the time. So unless the switched the dates, and Agnes was 46 and Sebastian > > was 21, that is why I have 2 Sebastian's listed. > > At any rate, Sebastian Kus and Agnes Zajac were the parents of 7 > > children:Marianna born 23 Oct 1849 marr. Jacob MicekMichael Kus born 22 Aug > > 1846 and died 24 May 1847Augustinus born 16 Nov 1857Stanislaus born 5 May > > 1859Joannes born 14 Oct 1861Thomas born 8 Nov 1863Sophia born 13 Apr 1866 > > The Michael Kush born 15 Jul 1843 and died 24 Jul 1912 who married > > Katherine Pawlicki in Poland abt 1868, his father is Stanislaus Kush and > > mother is Mary. This Michael immigrated abt 1870.The only Stanislaus Kush > > connected to the other family from Leki Dolne/Gorne is the son of Sebastian > > Kus and Agnes Zajac. But he was born in 1859, after Michael, so clearly, > > NOT the father. > > So unless someone has any other way to connect these two families, there > > are 2 separate Kus/Kush families in Platte county. And we don't know > > exactly where the Michael Kush born in 1843 was actually born, other than > > Galacia, Tarnow area of Poland. > > Monica > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 01:08:52 -0600 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Quer > > > > > > All - > > > > > > I should have deleted the below in this post but its relevant to > > this subject at hand, that is to say "The Kush (kus')" Family in and around > > Columbus in the early day's. > > > > > > Ever since I first subscribed to this list, in the late 1800's or so > > (Smile), connecting these two Families has reared up periodically, talked > > about for a while more, then put back to sleep again. > > > > > > The advancements in genealogy as a hobby, plus all the new data > > bases available and in use, coupled with the list looking through specific > > records from the Columbus area relevant to "KUSH" from various sources to > > include the LDS, should have produced results by now. > > > > > > One can only conclude that they are not related. Either that, or the > > Family connection took place well before any Kush came to Nebraska. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Megan Mueller <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mike Kush, born 1842 Poland, was the son of Stanislaus and Mary, who > > lived > > > > with him in 1880 (see census for Butler Twp, Platte Co). I have not > > yet > > > > discovered when Stanislaus and Mary came to the US, or when they died. > > > > > > > > Megan > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> Marge - > > > >> > > > >> "It has come to pass" that your information posted, I believe, to > > your > > > >> website, has received Cudos from a respected source. "I defer to Marge > > > >> Sandliers Genealogy research since she is very careful in checking and > > > >> recording data". (Yay for Marge) !! (Yay for Tom to post the Cudo) !! > > > >> > > > >> Specifically, it was thought that Michael Kush and Joseph Kush were > > > >> brothers. If so, then that would have been the Familial connection, > > uniting > > > >> the two Families. Lots of time has passed since the approximate time > > of your > > > >> entry and I'm interested if any new leads have materialized. > > > >> > > > >> I now understand that the connection, if there is a connection, is > > > >> further back in history. Would this be a correct statement ?? > > > >> > > > >> Question : Where does Michael Kus' fit in with respect to the > > Family?? > > > >> His tombstone at the Krakow cemetery shows he was born 20 September > > 1842 and > > > >> died 24 July 1912. Originally, it was thought that he was a brother to > > > >> Joseph and Ludwik Kus' / Kush, but apparently this is not the case. A > > shame > > > >> really because this would have been the Connection. > > > >> > > > >> Note : a bit chilly here today, 66f, overcast with a little wind. > > If it > > > >> were a bit warmer I'd till the garden and plant potatoes and peas. > > > >> > > > >> Tom > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Looking a Marge Sandlier's Kush descendancy list, it doesn't include > > > >> Michael and Joseph Kush as brothers. I thought this was the key to > > unite > > > >> the two Kush lines. I was wrong. I defer to Marge Sandlier's > > genealogy > > > >> research since she is very careful in checking and recording data. > > The > > > >> common ancestor is probably still further back in history . > > > >> Who is this Michael Kus' buried at the Krakow cemetery with the > > > >> inscription: Born September 20 1842. Died July 24 1912? I thought > > he was > > > >> a brother to Joseph and Ludwik. Apparently not. > > > >> Ron > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shirley - I remember those union suits well - my dad and grandpa had them -my dad even had a bright red pair of them - as they moved to the two piece long underwear sets for winter - my mom - who ran a sewing shop out of our house - cut them down and my younger brothers and i "inherited" them - lol - she had fought the battles of snow suits with my older siblings - so she changed tactics when me and my 2 younger brothers came along and instead of snow suits - we had union suits to wear to keep us warm when playing in the snow - thanks for the memory - even the unpleasant memory of wearing those awful things ;-) Dianne

My interest was intriqued and had to find the truth.......At the turn of the twentieth century many men wore union suits as undergarments. Union suits were one-piece, knit undergarments that covered both the upper and lower body. The traditional union suit was made of cotton or wool and covered the body from the ankles to the wrists. It had a long row of buttons up the front and featured a buttoned drop seat in the rear. Union suits often shrunk when washed, making the garments uncomfortable. They also were bulky and tended to irritate the wearer. Despite these problem, they were practical undergarments that provided warmth before the days of central heating. During the first few years of the century, several factors influenced the shape and the style of men's underwear. First, the widespread use of central heating meant that men no longer needed to wear long underwear indoors. Secondly, men's fashions began to be fitted more closely to the body, making bulky undergarments impractical. Thirdly, as sports and athletics became more popular as leisure activities, men sought out lighter forms of underwear. To accommodate these changes, underwear factories such as Chalmers Knitting Mills in Amsterdam, New York, began manufacturing less bulky, mesh garments that were comfortable for summer weather. By 1911 the first newspaper advertisements promoted patented, or original, advances in men's underwear styles. They included improvements in crotch closures and seat flaps, allowing for more comfort and better hygiene. The athletic union suit was introduced in the early 1910s. It was a knee-length one-piece garment with a sleeveless top that gave men more mobility. In 1912 Chalmers advertised a cotton-knit athletic union suit called the Porosknit, which featured a sturdy cotton yoke front. This model boasted a no-bulge waistline and easy-to-fasten buttons that did not easily come undone; it was also breathable, which meant that air flowed easily through the fabric, keeping the wearer from getting too hot. During World War I (1914–18) several changes occurred in the shape and styling of men's underwear. Men started wearing two-piece undergarments. The bottoms, often referred to as drawers, were knee-length cotton shorts with a few front buttons for durability and comfort. Certain models laced up at the side. Most drawers were made of cotton, although wealthy men wore silk drawers. On the upper body men wore chemises, sleeveless tops that covered the upper torso and tucked into the drawers. Men's underwear followed this basic pattern into the twenty-first century, with both tops and bottoms made in a variety of styles. For the bottoms, men can choose from longer, looser boxer shorts, close-fitting but modest briefs, or skimpy, skin-tight bikini underwear. For the tops, men typically choose from either V-necked or crewneck T-shirts or tank tops. ....Shirley