Cris - these are supposed to be the major record repositories for Ireland - in addition - if any ancestors were from Northern Ireland - you can search emeraldancestors.com for free The major records repositories in Ireland The _National Library of Ireland_ (http://www.nli.ie/new_what_res.htm) is situated on Kildare Street - just east of Dublin's main shopping street, Grafton Street. There is a free Genealogical Advisory Service at the Library making it the perfect place to start your research. The genealogist on duty will provide you with an overview of Irish genealogical records and explain how to locate finding aids and access records. The _National Archives of Ireland_ (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/) are a 15 minute walk from the National Library taking you through the famous St Stephen's Green. The National Archives also has an advisory service staffed by a genealogist who will assist you in locating records such as Census 1901 and 1911, wills, Griffiths Primary Valuation, Tithe Appointment Books and the other holdings at the Archives. The _Public Records Office of Northern Ireland_ (http://www.proni.gov.uk/) is key to researching ancestors who were born or lived in Northern Ireland. It holds the Griffiths Valuation and Tithe Appointment books, as well as valuations books, will calendars and wills, estate papers and church records for most denominations. The _General Register Office_ (http://www.groireland.ie/) in Dublin holds all civil birth, marriage and death records from 1864 to 1921 for the whole island of Ireland. After that date all records concerning Northern Ireland are held in the _General Register Office Belfast_ (http://www.groni.gov.uk/index.htm) . Full birth certificates are available at both General Register Offices and a research facility is also provided. The _Valuation Office_ (http://www.valoff.ie/Research.htm) is located in the Irish Life Centre in Lower Abbey Street in Dublin. It houses maps and cancelled and current land books which are based on Griffith's Primary Valuation. The cancelled and current land books document all changes of occupancy of land and property from the time of the original survey to the late 20th century. They are extremely valuable to the family historian, as they can relate to a particular property. The Valuation Books for Northern Ireland are held in the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland in Belfast. The _Registry of Deeds_ (http://www.landregistry.ie/) is located in Henrietta Street - immediately north of Dublin's main thoroughfare of O'Connell Street. It was established in 1708 to regulate land and property transactions. Registrations of deeds was not obligatory and mainly carried out by property owning classes such as land-owners, merchants and traders. A great deal of genealogical information can be extracted from deeds, as they often contain records of marriage settlements and wills, in addition to other property transactions. It is, however, unlikely that one would locate a registered deed for a small tenant farmer
Diane you are wonderful! Thank you. I will look at them in either a little later or in the morning. Been suffering with a migraine for 2 darn days now. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 7:59 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Cris - these are supposed to be the major record repositories for Ireland - > in addition - if any ancestors were from Northern Ireland - you can search > emeraldancestors.com for free > > The major records repositories in Ireland > The _National Library of Ireland_ (http://www.nli.ie/new_what_res.htm) > is > situated on Kildare Street - just east of Dublin's main shopping street, > Grafton Street. There is a free Genealogical Advisory Service at the > Library > making it the perfect place to start your research. The genealogist on > duty will provide you with an overview of Irish genealogical records and > explain how to locate finding aids and access records. > The _National Archives of Ireland_ (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/) are > a 15 minute walk from the National Library taking you through the famous > St > Stephen's Green. The National Archives also has an advisory service > staffed by a genealogist who will assist you in locating records such as > Census > 1901 and 1911, wills, Griffiths Primary Valuation, Tithe Appointment Books > and the other holdings at the Archives. > The _Public Records Office of Northern Ireland_ > (http://www.proni.gov.uk/) is key to researching ancestors who were born > or lived in Northern > Ireland. It holds the Griffiths Valuation and Tithe Appointment books, as > well > as valuations books, will calendars and wills, estate papers and church > records for most denominations. > The _General Register Office_ (http://www.groireland.ie/) in Dublin > holds all civil birth, marriage and death records from 1864 to 1921 for the > whole island of Ireland. After that date all records concerning Northern > Ireland are held in the _General Register Office Belfast_ > (http://www.groni.gov.uk/index.htm) . Full birth certificates are > available at both General > Register Offices and a research facility is also provided. > The _Valuation Office_ (http://www.valoff.ie/Research.htm) is located in > the Irish Life Centre in Lower Abbey Street in Dublin. It houses maps and > cancelled and current land books which are based on Griffith's Primary > Valuation. The cancelled and current land books document all changes of > occupancy of land and property from the time of the original survey to the > late > 20th century. They are extremely valuable to the family historian, as they > can > relate to a particular property. The Valuation Books for Northern Ireland > are held in the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland in Belfast. > The _Registry of Deeds_ (http://www.landregistry.ie/) is located in > Henrietta Street - immediately north of Dublin's main thoroughfare of > O'Connell > Street. It was established in 1708 to regulate land and property > transactions. Registrations of deeds was not obligatory and mainly carried > out by > property owning classes such as land-owners, merchants and traders. A > great > deal of genealogical information can be extracted from deeds, as they > often > contain records of marriage settlements and wills, in addition to other > property transactions. It is, however, unlikely that one would locate a > registered deed for a small tenant farmer > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !
Do you have the obit for Maurice? I can look Friday when I am at the musuem if you need it. If you have it, does it have the birth date on it? I know that a lot did not back then. Otherwise, you could probably contact the funeral home and see what records they might have....Shirley PS: I completely understand about same names in the family. Ours is Peter and Claus. :)
Chris, I took the picture of the stone on Find A Grave for a Maurice S Langan and shows birth day is 1876. Is this the same as the one she has put on St Patrick's? I could put the obit on the one I entered if you want and then she could delete hers since he obviously can be buried in only one cemetery. .... Shirley > > the dob for Maurice JR is definitely wrong on findagrave. Kerrie has it he > was born in 1880 however that can't be if he was baptized July 7 1875. > Unless of course there was another Maurice too! I remember Kerrie and I > discussing this some time ago but she couldnt edit it for some reasom
Sorry - I didn't complete my thought about the conflicting burial information. I was referring to the information found on www.findagrave.com Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ Sherri's Family Findings - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ <snip> 4. I noticed there is conflicting information on the burial place of Maurice Sr and Jr. (and maybe others--I didn't check). Someone "in the know" should probably correct the misinformation.
1. 1900 census shows that Maurice was born in May 1842, not 1836. 2. 1900 census shows that Margaret had 11 children, 7 living at that time. 3. I haven't checked what films are available, but have you searched those for Askeaton (or nearby)? 4. I noticed there is conflicting information on the burial place of Maurice Sr and Jr. (and maybe others--I didn't check). Someone "in the know" should probably correct the misinformation. 5. Have you gotten death certificates of all the children? 6. Do you know if Maurice had any brothers or sisters that immigrated? Do you have death certificates for them? 7. Did you request Maurice's social security application? That should give his birth place. Just a few thoughts off the top of my head......maybe you've already checked on all this. Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ Sherri's Family Findings - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cris Murphy Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NEPLATTE] church/cemetery questions Hi Everyone, Im so glad to see the activity on the list :) Here I come again with some of my same old question but since we have had some new people join us I'm hoping just maybe..... Iam getting married at the end of May and my future step-daughter is sending us to Ireland. OMG Im so excited! Here's the problem. I want to be able to visit the church/cemetery my LANGAN's attended and are buried. I've spent the last 4 hours researching and writing to just about everyone I came across on various websites.Unfortunately many emails were returned because the addresses are no longer valid. What I do know are the dates of baptisims but not what church. Im leaning towards St. Mary's as it is the oldest church I have found in the Askeaton area. I have posted the following before but again hoping someone may have some new leads for me. It's taken my about 7 years just to get to where I am now in my research and thats not very far.The trip to Ireland is my dream come true and I want so bad to make the most of it. Thanks so much for putting up with me and my endless questions. Cris Atwater CA *MAURICE SYLVESTER LANGAN SR. WAS BORN IN IRELAND POSSIBLY ASKEATON OR RATHKEALE IN ABOUT 1836. (I haven't been able to find this) MAURICE MARRIED MARGARET KENNELLY AUGUST 22, 1857 IN ASKEATON, LIMERICK, IRELAND. THEY HAD SEVERAL CHILDREN, and may have had possibly one ot two more children than records have been found for CATHERINE (KATE) BORN ASKEATON, CHRISTENED (need church name and cemetery) 10,JUNE,1858 (CATHERINE DIED AS A CHILD IN IRELAND) JOHN FRANCES BORN ASKEATON, CHRISTENED 7,JULY,1860 MICHAEL BORN ASKEATON, CHRISTENED 5,SEPT,1862 MARY BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 3,APRIL,1870 JERRY(JEREMIAH) BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 30,SEPT,1871 ELLEN (HELEN-NELL-NELLIE-HELENAM) BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 7,MARCH,1873 ELIZABETH (SISTER SYLVIA) BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 17,MAY,1874 MAURICE S.(JR) BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 7,JULY,1875 PATRICK BORN 17,MARCH 1880 (PATRICK WAS THE ONLY ONE TO BE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES) * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I meant to say "a" Maurice Langan died 1905, there were a few with the same name in the family so I have to find out who this one was. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Cris Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > Shirley, thank you so much.I was just going to email you :) Thank you so > much for putting the picture up. I now can see my grandfathers grave. > Although Im still confused. I have his baptisim as July 7,1875. Now Im > definitely seeing there is something wrong with info I have. I found the > christenings several years ago online and so either one or the other is > incorrect which doesnt surprise me in the least. Margaret Langan's headstone > is spelled Langen..I need to go back to all of my info and really look > through it because Im just as confused today as I was 7 years ago LOL. I > just found Maurice Langan died April 10, 1905..so now I have to see what I > have for who and who this Maurice Langan is. It has been a couple of years > since Ive even tried searching so it's like starting all over. > She had a problem deleting the incorrect information she had Shirley, I > cant remember the specifics though. She has just moved and doesnt hjave a > phone or internet yet so I cant contact her today to ask her. It may be a > few days before I see here as we are having terible storms here so I dont > want to venture out in it to go to her house. > Thank you again. > Cris > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Shirley Martys <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> Chris, I took the picture of the stone on Find A Grave for a Maurice S >> Langan and shows birth day is 1876. Is this the same as the one she has put >> on St Patrick's? I could put the obit on the one I entered if you want and >> then she could delete hers since he obviously can be buried in only one >> cemetery. .... Shirley >> > >> > the dob for Maurice JR is definitely wrong on findagrave. Kerrie has it >> he >> > was born in 1880 however that can't be if he was baptized July 7 1875. >> > Unless of course there was another Maurice too! I remember Kerrie and I >> > discussing this some time ago but she couldnt edit it for some reasom >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Life may not be the party we hoped for.. > But while we're here we might as well dance ! > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !
Shirley, thank you so much.I was just going to email you :) Thank you so much for putting the picture up. I now can see my grandfathers grave. Although Im still confused. I have his baptisim as July 7,1875. Now Im definitely seeing there is something wrong with info I have. I found the christenings several years ago online and so either one or the other is incorrect which doesnt surprise me in the least. Margaret Langan's headstone is spelled Langen..I need to go back to all of my info and really look through it because Im just as confused today as I was 7 years ago LOL. I just found Maurice Langan died April 10, 1905..so now I have to see what I have for who and who this Maurice Langan is. It has been a couple of years since Ive even tried searching so it's like starting all over. She had a problem deleting the incorrect information she had Shirley, I cant remember the specifics though. She has just moved and doesnt hjave a phone or internet yet so I cant contact her today to ask her. It may be a few days before I see here as we are having terible storms here so I dont want to venture out in it to go to her house. Thank you again. Cris On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Shirley Martys <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Chris, I took the picture of the stone on Find A Grave for a Maurice S > Langan and shows birth day is 1876. Is this the same as the one she has put > on St Patrick's? I could put the obit on the one I entered if you want and > then she could delete hers since he obviously can be buried in only one > cemetery. .... Shirley > > > > the dob for Maurice JR is definitely wrong on findagrave. Kerrie has it > he > > was born in 1880 however that can't be if he was baptized July 7 1875. > > Unless of course there was another Maurice too! I remember Kerrie and I > > discussing this some time ago but she couldnt edit it for some reasom > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !
the dob for Maurice JR is definitely wrong on findagrave. Kerrie has it he was born in 1880 however that can't be if he was baptized July 7 1875. Unless of course there was another Maurice too! I remember Kerrie and I discussing this some time ago but she couldnt edit it for some reasom On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Cris Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > I have looked through my notes and can't seem to find if I had an obituary > for Maurice Sr. My daughter had stated on find a grave that she found it in > the Columbus telegram 1927 so Im heading off to see what I can find. > > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Sherri Brakenhoff <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Sorry - I didn't complete my thought about the conflicting burial >> information. I was referring to the information found on >> www.findagrave.com >> >> >> Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] >> NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ >> NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - >> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ >> Sherri's Family Findings - >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ >> >> <snip> >> 4. I noticed there is conflicting information on the burial place of >> Maurice >> Sr and Jr. (and maybe others--I didn't check). Someone "in the know" >> should >> probably correct the misinformation. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Life may not be the party we hoped for.. > But while we're here we might as well dance ! > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !
I have looked through my notes and can't seem to find if I had an obituary for Maurice Sr. My daughter had stated on find a grave that she found it in the Columbus telegram 1927 so Im heading off to see what I can find. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Sherri Brakenhoff <[email protected]>wrote: > Sorry - I didn't complete my thought about the conflicting burial > information. I was referring to the information found on > www.findagrave.com > > > Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] > NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ > NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ > Sherri's Family Findings - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ > > <snip> > 4. I noticed there is conflicting information on the burial place of > Maurice > Sr and Jr. (and maybe others--I didn't check). Someone "in the know" should > probably correct the misinformation. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !
Sherri, all I found (4 entries) were from my daughter many years ago. We both had webtv at the time (remember all the trouble I used to have ?? LOL)and she lost all of her information when her webtv died on her. Im not sure what youre refering to about the conflicting burial information I will have to double check it. I know my daughter Kerrie had some things confused at one time with the 2 Maurice's, as did I. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Sherri Brakenhoff <[email protected]>wrote: > Sorry - I didn't complete my thought about the conflicting burial > information. I was referring to the information found on > www.findagrave.com > > > Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] > NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ > NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ > Sherri's Family Findings - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ > > <snip> > 4. I noticed there is conflicting information on the burial place of > Maurice > Sr and Jr. (and maybe others--I didn't check). Someone "in the know" should > probably correct the misinformation. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !
Hi Sherri Thank you so much for the suggestions, some I have tried.I will go in the order as you wrote. 1.) I do have all the census but somehow missed the entry for 1842, all entries I found in the past stated 1836.I'll have to go through my webpages again and look at that. 2.) There has been talk among Langan's that there was possibly a Patrick or a Michael who died and another child was named the same name. No one has been able to find this or validate it. 3.) I have found numerous sites for Askeaton/Ballysteen but where would I find the films? are there any online?Literally every email I sent today has now been returned to me. Even the ones to the parish and diocese. 4.) I do have the cemetery information. Off the top of my head I think it was Sr buried at St Patrick and Jr at St Bon's 5.) I don't have any death certs. for any of the children. But Im not sure they would hold any information that I need regarding Ireland, the church in Ireland, th cemetery in Ireland etc.Not all the children died in NE. 6.) Yes Ellen Carrig was Maurice Srs. sister. She came to the US via Canada and I have the information on when and where they were married. But dont have any actual records in hand. Ive always thought that other Langan's must have came with her because in my mind back in the 1800's I don';t know that single woman would have been allowed by their families to travel with a gentleman without a chaperone. I know the Carrig's were first in Illinois before moving on to NE. Illinois proved quite challenging for me There were many Langan's in IL. but I hadn't found anything that seemed to tie in with mine. Its just a gut feeling I have that there must be some sort of connection. 7.)Im pretty sure I have the SS info. I have to go back and check on that too. Its been so long since Ive made any attempt at researching.Im almost positive it just says Ireland as does his death cert. With all the children I have found info on all say born in Askeaton so it has always been my assumption they also lived and were baptized in Askeaton. And I should know better than to "assume" anything in genealogy LOL I want to bad to find out about them in Ireland before our trip. Thanks so much for your reply and suggestions Sherri :) On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Sherri Brakenhoff <[email protected]>wrote: > 1. 1900 census shows that Maurice was born in May 1842, not 1836. > > 2. 1900 census shows that Margaret had 11 children, 7 living at that time. > > 3. I haven't checked what films are available, but have you searched those > for Askeaton (or nearby)? > > 4. I noticed there is conflicting information on the burial place of > Maurice > Sr and Jr. (and maybe others--I didn't check). Someone "in the know" should > probably correct the misinformation. > > 5. Have you gotten death certificates of all the children? > > 6. Do you know if Maurice had any brothers or sisters that immigrated? Do > you have death certificates for them? > > 7. Did you request Maurice's social security application? That should give > his birth place. > > Just a few thoughts off the top of my head......maybe you've already > checked > on all this. > > Sherri Brakenhoff - [email protected] > NEGenWeb, Platte Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/platte/ > NEGenWeb, Colfax Co Coordinator - > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/colfax/ > Sherri's Family Findings - > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~sherri/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Cris Murphy > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NEPLATTE] church/cemetery questions > > Hi Everyone, > Im so glad to see the activity on the list :) > Here I come again with some of my same old question but since we have had > some new people join us I'm hoping just maybe..... > Iam getting married at the end of May and my future step-daughter is > sending > us to Ireland. OMG Im so excited! Here's the problem. I want to be able to > visit the church/cemetery my LANGAN's attended and are buried. > I've spent the last 4 hours researching and writing to just about everyone > I > came across on various websites.Unfortunately many emails were returned > because the addresses are no longer valid. > What I do know are the dates of baptisims but not what church. Im leaning > towards St. Mary's as it is the oldest church I have found in the Askeaton > area. I have posted the following before but again hoping someone may have > some new leads for me. It's taken my about 7 years just to get to where I > am > now in my research and thats not very far.The trip to Ireland is my dream > come true and I want so bad to make the most of it. > Thanks so much for putting up with me and my endless questions. > Cris > Atwater CA > > > *MAURICE SYLVESTER LANGAN SR. WAS BORN IN IRELAND POSSIBLY ASKEATON OR > RATHKEALE IN ABOUT 1836. (I haven't been able to find this) > > MAURICE MARRIED MARGARET KENNELLY AUGUST 22, 1857 IN ASKEATON, LIMERICK, > IRELAND. > THEY HAD SEVERAL CHILDREN, > and may have had possibly one ot two more children than records have been > found for > > CATHERINE (KATE) > BORN ASKEATON, > CHRISTENED (need church name and cemetery) > 10,JUNE,1858 > (CATHERINE DIED AS A CHILD IN > IRELAND) > > JOHN FRANCES > BORN ASKEATON, > CHRISTENED > 7,JULY,1860 > > MICHAEL > BORN ASKEATON, > CHRISTENED > 5,SEPT,1862 > > MARY > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED > 3,APRIL,1870 > > JERRY(JEREMIAH) > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED > 30,SEPT,1871 > > ELLEN (HELEN-NELL-NELLIE-HELENAM) > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED > 7,MARCH,1873 > > ELIZABETH (SISTER SYLVIA) > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED 17,MAY,1874 > > MAURICE S.(JR) > BORN ASKEATON > CHRISTENED 7,JULY,1875 > > PATRICK BORN > 17,MARCH 1880 > (PATRICK WAS THE ONLY ONE TO BE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES) > > > * > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Life may not be the party we hoped for.. But while we're here we might as well dance !
Hi Everyone, Im so glad to see the activity on the list :) Here I come again with some of my same old question but since we have had some new people join us I'm hoping just maybe..... Iam getting married at the end of May and my future step-daughter is sending us to Ireland. OMG Im so excited! Here's the problem. I want to be able to visit the church/cemetery my LANGAN's attended and are buried. I've spent the last 4 hours researching and writing to just about everyone I came across on various websites.Unfortunately many emails were returned because the addresses are no longer valid. What I do know are the dates of baptisims but not what church. Im leaning towards St. Mary's as it is the oldest church I have found in the Askeaton area. I have posted the following before but again hoping someone may have some new leads for me. It's taken my about 7 years just to get to where I am now in my research and thats not very far.The trip to Ireland is my dream come true and I want so bad to make the most of it. Thanks so much for putting up with me and my endless questions. Cris Atwater CA *MAURICE SYLVESTER LANGAN SR. WAS BORN IN IRELAND POSSIBLY ASKEATON OR RATHKEALE IN ABOUT 1836. (I haven't been able to find this) MAURICE MARRIED MARGARET KENNELLY AUGUST 22, 1857 IN ASKEATON, LIMERICK, IRELAND. THEY HAD SEVERAL CHILDREN, and may have had possibly one ot two more children than records have been found for CATHERINE (KATE) BORN ASKEATON, CHRISTENED (need church name and cemetery) 10,JUNE,1858 (CATHERINE DIED AS A CHILD IN IRELAND) JOHN FRANCES BORN ASKEATON, CHRISTENED 7,JULY,1860 MICHAEL BORN ASKEATON, CHRISTENED 5,SEPT,1862 MARY BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 3,APRIL,1870 JERRY(JEREMIAH) BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 30,SEPT,1871 ELLEN (HELEN-NELL-NELLIE-HELENAM) BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 7,MARCH,1873 ELIZABETH (SISTER SYLVIA) BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 17,MAY,1874 MAURICE S.(JR) BORN ASKEATON CHRISTENED 7,JULY,1875 PATRICK BORN 17,MARCH 1880 (PATRICK WAS THE ONLY ONE TO BE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES) *
One yer the kids and Steve found upwards of 50 lbs of mushrooms! Steve took them to Nebraska City, Hamburg, local grocer's and such, sold them for $10 a lb. We bought the kids their first mountain bikes with the proceeds! (atthe time mountain bikes were $150-$200 a bike, with three kids, like whoa!) Children had a good day and got something they really wanted! On 3/20/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tom..........you did have me going there in the beginning lol But, once > I saw what you were talking about, I have to say I did love my Morels and > picked many myself back in the day. We strung them up to dry in the > washhouse (buda) I loved them in gravy. > > About ten years ago, we were up near Monterey Ca for an anniversary > party. The "groom" was from Ne, and one of his daughters surprised him with > a couple of pounds of Morels.......at $48 a lb. He could not believe it. > Neither could we. KathyB > > ____________________________________________________________ > Groupon™ Official Site > 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d86ac4b3ccc1278149st03duc > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Yes I've looked for Stan and chalres Thanks Tom youare such a wealth of info On 3/21/11, Thomas E. Lassek <[email protected]> wrote: > "......... had a Stainslaus in the records, which I have never seen or found > else where > (including 100 yr cenntenial book). I also wondered if this could be your > Stantly, but realized it could not be. Any further thoughts or suggestions > are greatfully accepted! .........." > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Greetings - > > Wanted to comment concerning the Polish name Stanisław. Its a very > ancient name, double rooted as most are, meaning something along the line of > "Becoming Glorious", and this is one of the few Polish names where no > English equivalent exists. The Latin equivalent is spelled as Stanislaus in > scribe for record purposes. > > The accented letter L in the original Polish spelling, and the Latin > fluidity of speech has resulted in the adoption of the Latin spelling in > English speaking countries! But even then, there is still no English > equivalent to the Latinized Stanislaus - at least officially. > > Early on, the immigrant realized that it was a bit odd, both in > conversation and scribe, to use the Latin version continually, so he > "Americanized" both the Polish and Latin spellings into a nickname, spelled > as Stan. Short and sweet, and it even sounds good. Stan then became the norm > for equivalency amongst Polish immigrants. It was later "adjusted" to > Stanley, a form that added some formality. > > Life is good. > > Tom > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
yes Neptune got it at castle gardens site. 6 may 1870 On 3/19/11, MONICA ZENDEJAS <[email protected]> wrote: > > Debi, I don't recall seeing the ship manifest. Do you have the ship name > and year and I could probably find it. > >> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 20:01:09 -0500 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] FW: 1880 census image for Mike Kush with his >> parents >> >> No I haven't found a death record for either. But today on ancestry I >> found >> a M. Kusz on a 1899 Plat map in Platte Center, NE. Would you know >> anythign >> about that? Also I think you have or have seen the ship manifast which >> clearlystates Michael, Katharyzna and John Kus along with Stanilaus and >> Mary >> Kus. I have never located John again either. Birth is very close to your >> Joseph. Secondly, when I was talking to the priest at Krakow, he >> absolutly >> insisted Joseph, Ludwig and Michael were related. It also seems to me he >> had a Stainslaus in the records, which I have never seen or found else >> where >> (including 100 yr cenntenial book). I also wondered if this could be your >> Stantly, but realized it could not be. Any further thoughts or >> suggestions >> are greatfully accepted! >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:56 PM, MONICA ZENDEJAS >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> > >> > Debi,Even though the 1880 census does not show "relationships" in the >> > household, we might assume that those are his parents living with >> > them....I >> > see where you got Stanislaus and Mary as Michael Kush's parents, which >> > kinda confirms that his parents were not Michael Kus and Sophia Augustyn >> > ..... Apparently Stanislaus and Mary came to Nebraska too..... ever run >> > across their death/burial/obit info??? >> > >> > > _____ >> > > >> > > From: June Cook [mailto:[email protected]] >> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 1:13 PM >> > > To: [email protected] >> > > Subject: 1880 census image for Mike Kush with his parents >> > > >> > > >> > > http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=6742 >> > > < >> > http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=6742&iid=4242037-00169&pid >> > > =48231721&email=> &iid=4242037-00169&pid=48231721&email= >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Kathy- Well, I'm afraid we will have to persuade someone with a sense of adventure to mind-zap back into the past to see just what they were doing back then to screw everything up. Shirley, Monica, Sherry, Diane, Marge and Chris come to mind off hand. I'm sure there are others. The question of course is WHY he changed his name in the first place. That's why we need the mind-zap. Here, I think the odds would favor : 1. He didn't want to cause confusion by adopting the name Stanley, since others used Stanley and he wanted distinction for clarification. 2. Perhaps he had a middle name associated with the English Charles in some way. 3. Someone he respected carried the name Charles, but in a different form (see below). Actually, there is some basis for your continued research towards finality, even the simple word CHARLIE may open tangent doors. There is some established protocol in support. The name CHARLES is totally English, however it's represented in some respect in all European languages. In Polish, it's KAROL and KAZIMIERZ. KAROL initially comes from the Old German word CAROLUS which means "man or husband". Some feel it is better represented with the meaning of "army or people". It became widespread with it's association with CHARLEMAGNE, then the Carolingian king of the Franks, whose English name is a combination of the French-influenced name CHARLES and the Latin MAGNUS. The Polish name KAROL derives from the Latin CAROLUS and the English name CHARLES comes from the French. KAZIMIERZ is an old double rooted Pagan name, KAZI - means "destroy" and MIR - means "peace". It was a name born by Piast and Jagiellonian princes and kings. In America the English version is CASIMIR, formed from the Latin spelling of CASIMIRUS. In the US, several Polish immigrants have used the American deviant of CASIMIR which is CASEY or CHARLES. There is more information available in my reference, the high points I've mentioned above, but you may want to look at the entire entries for further info. First Names of the Polish Commonwealth, Origins and Meanings. Hoffman and Helon. One thing remains unexplained and I was hoping to find it, but I didn't. I cannot find an association, in spelling or phonetics, a connection back to STANISLAW. They're completely different. One thing I would recommend would be to take all these names to someone who is fluid in Polish - a Native Pole would be best, and ask them to pronounce them. I'd record their pronunciation as well. Since dialectal differences in pronunciation widely exist in Poland, ask them If they think that there could be a similarity in these names as spoken in other geographical parts of Poland. The End - Tom On Mar 21, 2011, at 6:46 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tom, OK..........I'll buy your little explanation, but how did it become Charlie then? KB >
Tom, OK..........I'll buy your little explanation, but how did it become Charlie then? KB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d879d3e79cbf33cab8st02duc
Somewhere in the back of my mind was a story involving the Pawoll's. Finally, due to the new site, I found the connection. My mom had said that her sister was going with one of the Pawoll boys, and my grandma said they couldn't get married because they were cousins. The connection was: My great grandpa Mosteks sister Katharine, married Joseph Cieloha, and one of their daughters married a Pawoll. Third cousins at most! Boo, gramma! KathyB ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d8709496146333a3d4st01duc
"......... had a Stainslaus in the records, which I have never seen or found else where (including 100 yr cenntenial book). I also wondered if this could be your Stantly, but realized it could not be. Any further thoughts or suggestions are greatfully accepted! .........." . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Greetings - Wanted to comment concerning the Polish name Stanisław. Its a very ancient name, double rooted as most are, meaning something along the line of "Becoming Glorious", and this is one of the few Polish names where no English equivalent exists. The Latin equivalent is spelled as Stanislaus in scribe for record purposes. The accented letter L in the original Polish spelling, and the Latin fluidity of speech has resulted in the adoption of the Latin spelling in English speaking countries! But even then, there is still no English equivalent to the Latinized Stanislaus - at least officially. Early on, the immigrant realized that it was a bit odd, both in conversation and scribe, to use the Latin version continually, so he "Americanized" both the Polish and Latin spellings into a nickname, spelled as Stan. Short and sweet, and it even sounds good. Stan then became the norm for equivalency amongst Polish immigrants. It was later "adjusted" to Stanley, a form that added some formality. Life is good. Tom